I like how this guy is so well spoken, well done sire, well done

Nice to know phone books can still be useful =)

Great video. It's very hard to find informative videos on the .500 Nitro Express. Thanks for posting this.

You must have a titanium shoulder. Impressive.

@1tufgun

7 жыл бұрын

SlingsAxes hi. thanks for your comment but the truth is, its all about adaptation to such giants and moving along with recoil motion as it occurs instantly which could be described as energy transfer therefor I never get hurt by these big guns nor being apprehensive or scared at all which is not at all easy to adopt to. Avi

seriously he is the only guy who makes videos on big bore rifles. and he does it with no nonesense and is just a all around badass!

its like Jerry Miculek meets European guy with huge guns haha

Sincerely hope there will be more videos. My compliments.

I would love to see more content from you sir. You have my vote. Well done sir.

Howdy from Texas. Great video Avi, please make more...

Both rounds are brutal...Nice video...Great job...

600 overkill is one i was unacquainted with. i enjoyed the comparison and learned something.

Thanks for comparison. Not many people have either of these firearms to compare let alone do tests like you. Cheers for that. 👍

excellent demonstration

I've shot the odd triceratops with the 600 with pretty good results its great on pidgeon because there's no mess to clean up once you've vapourised them.

Great video. Love seeing the big bores👍

Enjoyable. Surprising results with the soft points

You are the man, your videos are great, and such a good personality.

this is awesome. thanks for this test.

Thank you, very nice video

I enjoyed this very much.

Great video, tanks

Avi's the man! Thanks.

You give a truly excellent review. A job very well done indeed. I would like to see more reviews on your channel. You are obviously very well versed in dangerous game rifles and their application, any help and insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Avi, please make more videos. Your large dangerous game rifles are so cool

It would be interesting to see 600 or 500 soft point shot in ballistic gel.

@1tufgun

7 жыл бұрын

SKM. the cost of ballistic gel is simply too costly & beyond my means and, it will require a large and 3 feet minimum long as a tech in that co have told me & that gel will literally go air born upon impact for sure so it will become quite a spectacle to watch.

@mrturner4620

6 жыл бұрын

Put something weighted on and around the gel to stop it from going anywhere.

@scottyj6226

4 жыл бұрын

A clay block couldn't be that expensive.

I’m just impressed by the BEAUTIFUL lumber on that .600 OK….

i'm glad it's your shoulder and not mine i can feel it aching now just looking at that recoil

Which is best? Depends on use case and cost of ammunition for your specific situation. One could be better than the other and vise versa.

This one seems to kick, but you make it look easy to shoot. ^^

what is the cost of these rounds and what is the foot pounds at the muzzle I think I'll just get a 4570 in stick to grizzly

it is amazing the guns. I am from Brazil. I liked a lot of the video. So cool. So very nice. I would like to hunt with you guys. All the best for you guys.

Both are awesome calibers, and they both will stop an adult male african elephant if shot placement is proper.

Please make more videos!!

Wanted a 500 express but now wanna get me some 600-overkill.

sectional density is key but bullet nose profile and bullet construction are necessary

I love that ruger no1 would like to see more videos on it.

0:21 why does it sound like that gunshot sound in games?

could u do this same test with 375 h&h magnum solids and 500 nitro express solids?

@1tufgun

7 жыл бұрын

Robert Keller. the 375 H&H have already proven itself in Africa's golden age as a formidable cartridge however, most African states requires a 40 caliber minimum to take large & dangerous game because the 375 have failed to take down many large or dangerous game due to lack of bullet weigh & size & improperly placed shot nevertheless, a 375 H&H with nowadays bullets such as Woodleigh & others will reach any large game's brain successfully so, there you go . Avi

@andytheturtle87

7 жыл бұрын

What African countries now ban the .375 for DG? besides Kenya, which is effectively impossible to hunt anyway, every other counties hunting laws either expressly allow .375 or are written in a manner that lists the .375 as the minimum allowed.

@MooseHunter330

6 жыл бұрын

I even heard of most guides now allowing for 9,3x64 Brenneke on Buffalo, Leopard and Lion hunts. At least in South Africa, Namibia and Botswana.

Great video and very informative, however, my shoulder and neck just started to ache... Coincidence, who knows? I've been a 7x57 guy for a while but do own a 375h&h for any possible space invaders that I might encounter. My 375 isn't much more in the recoil department than some 30-06's I've shot but I don't believe I'd want to tangle with either of these two calibers, my shoulder agrees! 😉

His voice is beautiful.

Am I right that if you have a risk of large bone structures being present, the solid bullets would be best? (With a slight preference for the 500 nitro?) :-)

@leskugel1357

10 жыл бұрын

1tufgun Thanks Avi, yes, was actually thinking of a frontal shot of a charging Cape Buffalo...very small area to target and moving very fast if head is up - not a lot of error margin for a brain shot, hence the question about bone penetration if shot not perfectly placed..thanks for the insightful comparison, fascinating

@1tufgun

10 жыл бұрын

Les Kugel. considering the bullets of the past you are correct regards the solids however, as a stopping rifle, the 600 caliber with the Woodleigh RN weld core is your best choice as you can see the damage they inflict on nearly 17 " of dry compressed phone books by large margin tougher then any elephant frontal head skin & bones which are not solid rather then a honeycomb thick sponge like material as I've seen in San Diego wild park display. Avi

wats the gun you use??

I wouldn´t want to be hit by either.

The best one is the one you can handle more than the other. They both work well for its intended use.

@1tufgun

10 жыл бұрын

Mitchel.. that is precisely what John Pandoro Taylor recommends hunters to do however, he also recommends choosing the correct cartridge & bullet for the game you intend to take and of course shot placement is critical when dealing with large dangerous game.. Avi

supper sir...

That .600 solid almost appears to be a bullet failure the way it ballooned when it hit.

You mean 570gr? They both look like woodleighs. Nice videos, both interesting cartridges.

I choose the 600 Overkill because of the name. :)

A very bad day for anything on the recieving end of either cartridge!

Hi whats the velocity of the 900 grains of the 600?? ,Thanks

@1tufgun

7 жыл бұрын

Lukes 7777. velocity with the 900 gr bullets is 2030 fps average. about the same as with the 500 nitro Hornady ammo chronographed at 2052 fps average. Avi

@lukes-uf4bc

7 жыл бұрын

what a beast!!! so nicee!!, thanks!!!!

Try some of the flat point solids made by North Fork and Cutting Edge Bullets. They penetrate much deeper and straighter as well as creating a better wound channel than round nosed solids. Also try the Barnes 570 gr TSX in your .500 Nitro. It works great in my .500 A-Square.

@1tufgun

8 жыл бұрын

+Cruel Sewell . thanks for your comment & I have no doubt these bullets you've mentioned performs well indeed however, how deep a bullet needs to penetrate in order to take down a large dangerous game at close range? its all about shot placement & not how deep a bullet penetrates nor its trajectory however, I may give these bullets a try soon enough. regards Avi

@cruelsewell6231

8 жыл бұрын

That depends on the angle my friend. Quartering follow up shots can require quite a bit! Also, you'll find the penetration to be much straighter, more dependable and the wound channel larger. They stabilize in flesh much better than round nose bullets. I didn't believe it until I tried them. I like the Barnes TSX and the CEB Raptors for most North American game. I will have my hands on my own .600 Overkill next year. I enjoy your videos and best regards.

@cruelsewell6231

8 жыл бұрын

1tufgun I do agree that proper shot placement comes first.

@sukhmangill5643

2 жыл бұрын

Which 500 a square do u have

I'm assuming they don't put scopes on these rifles because of the risk of injury due to the scope ring hitting you in the face? Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

@1tufgun

10 жыл бұрын

Randy. fact is none of the professional famous ivory hunters ever used a scope on their rifles mainly because the short distance and thick brush renders a scope useless & takes too long to acquire the target. you have to maintain front sight alignment rather quickly in most situations while observing the game though a missed shot could & would result in serious injury or death. extreme recoil could result a scope hitting a shooter in their forehead as well so all around scopes on dangerous game rifles is unacceptable or practical.. Avi

Ouch!!

homemade bodyarmor from phonebooks

@gabbarich

8 жыл бұрын

Funny but true.

@1tufgun

7 жыл бұрын

245aurora. just saw your comment & in fact, the myth busters guys have armored a chevy S10 doors with 4 books mounted on each side of both doors & from a distance they fired the 416 Barrett which penetrated the engine block & through one door only but the 50 BMG did penetrate through one door & found stock on the opposite door through two of the books so, my big boys do quite well & at much lower velocity however, these books are quite heavy therefore they're not practical as body armor you could carry upon your body. AVI

The long slender bullets have greater sectional density - they “drill” better.

I think your accent is the best

@Svarthammarholet

8 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Christopher Walken

@marcobeltran2872

7 жыл бұрын

I was just gonna post that coment before reading it here, he sounds just like him

Either one even the 700 the 900 grain bullet from the 600 at 1900 feet per second if you drop it down to about 1500 it will penetrate deeper

Im curious to see my two weatherby carabine pass this test (with A-square bullt)..500gr for my 460 300gr for my 378......and if possible all my safari rifle collection...since my 9,3x64....its a great test.

@1tufgun

8 жыл бұрын

+alan levy hi sir. what you can do is find your local library & use their throw away reading books as I do and I sagest 20 " or so & surprise yourself ! its all about shot placement & the correct bullet size & shape for the game you're going to take... AVI

@alanaliyev456GT

8 жыл бұрын

1tufgun thank you !!! In first sorry for my begginer english... I need your opinion for a future purchase. I want invest money in my first half inch caliber safari gun .. (if i forget my father collection loooool he own exprss 500and 600ne)..... for me i hesitate in two caliber 505 Gibbs and 500 Jeffery..... but i have an inclination for the second... or i must forget all that and to buy an old 500 A square...(easy for me and my lot of hundreds 460 wby case..lol and its to same spirit of all my quasi complete wby line...500a square in fact is a 50/378 weatherby mag

@1tufgun

8 жыл бұрын

+alan levy I would choose the 500 nitro express every time. the other two are quite hard to acquire ammo which is not available mostly whereas hornady offers most nitro cartridges for reasonable cost and furthermore, you'll never beat its performance...don't be fooled by hyper velocities in some cartridges which dose NOT kill any game any better rather just runs through them fester. AVI

@alanaliyev456GT

8 жыл бұрын

1tufgun thank . For me its for fun and collection... and shoot on box of round per years .. lool i own great number of reference (more of 30 big game calibers 50 with my father.. ..and i use it alternately for use all my colection every year. Loool.. we own 500ne (and 470 577 and 600ne) i love this gun but i want a .50 ..(a minima).in bolt action..... i want a great brother for 458lott..

@alanaliyev456GT

8 жыл бұрын

1tufgun in finalise...im sure 600 overkill is the better choice for me... in CZ its very interresting...and its a great bolt action round....

wilfred Brimley of the gun world

This is all well and good if you are hunting telephone books.

i wonder if those stopping guns could stop a charging Humvee

@BlueSky......

3 жыл бұрын

at point blank range the humvee would be split in half

next try to shoot niddle vs 50 cal

Don’t ya love the folks who ask, “is the 500 nitro express deadly?” Or “powerful?” Lol-that sucker looks a tad powerful, yeah buddy! Fire that 10 times, you’ll be feeling it if you even could stand it 😊 so cool

why can't more vids be like this one and just cut the crap out........EXCELLENT... but what are those rifles?......i'm trading on an old .470 and a new .500 box, both brit doubles, but your 600 could stop a whale. thx

Ooh shit

Would those bullets expand on a human target? Something tells me they would just behave like FMJs inside two legged game

@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443

2 жыл бұрын

You might get a tiny bit of deformation if you hit enough bones, but otherwise its zipping right through.

someone please explain to me why anyone would need such powerful rounds as these? I get that it can be pretty fun. aren't they just a bit beyond practical?

@1tufgun

8 жыл бұрын

+Evan Bacon hi. its rather simple to understand if a person research the British development of bigger, heavier bullets and cartridges capable of stopping an angry elephant or other dangerous game from injuring or killing a hunter at close range which the 500 , 577 and the 600 N.E were designed for & you're right, that's way too much power for anything else. thanks. Avi

@SamBrickell

8 жыл бұрын

I get very tired of anyone who thinks they have any right to question what another free person "needs".

@MrEvanBacon

8 жыл бұрын

+SAM BRICKELL of course they have the right to question it. that's the whole point of free speech. I can tell you whatever I want within the limits of the law, it doesn't mean I have ANY authority whatsoever over you. I was just curious as to what the point was of this insanely powerful round...

@SamBrickell

8 жыл бұрын

***** That's cool if you understand the limit of your power over others. A lot of people who use lines like this; " someone please explain to me why anyone would need such powerful rounds as these?" do not. There are a lot of progressives these days who are very far away from being liberal.

@alecingram4669

5 жыл бұрын

@faultroy in reality, a smaller gun may do the job in some situations, but at the same time, why have a fast car? In some cases these guns may be useful eg charging elephant or bison as they are very thick skinned. They may be used infrequently but they are fun to shoot. And, isn't fun the point of shooting anyway??

500 Nitro Express: 6,000 ft lbs 700 Nitro Express: 9,000 ft lbs 577 Tyrannosaur: 10,000 ft lbs 600 Overkill: 19,000 ft lbs

Блин, глаза такие, как будто прям хорошо буханул или с похмелья :)

HOW MUCH $ PER ROUND?

@1tufgun

5 жыл бұрын

hello...since I loaded my own ammo, the cost of powder, bullets & primers is between $8 - $10 each round with the 600 yet the smaller cartridges are quite less costly depending upon components. I do my own ballistic research and development which allow me to select other, newer & more efficient powders resulting in lesser cost per round after loads are finalized. Avi

@peanut3050

5 жыл бұрын

@@1tufgun WOW That's nearly double what I paid for my 458wm and 375hh ammo!

@1tufgun

5 жыл бұрын

p.s, I forgot to mention I have molds for these calibers and have mostly used 1/20 alloy cast bullets for all my shooting besides these official videos presentations. Avi

TELEPROMPTER READING 📚 WHEN ENGLISH IS NOT YOUR LANGUAGE

i bet if thoose phonebook s on 500 were taped as hard as 600 , were it should penetrated //and last video i asked is solid solid brass or just lead in full thick suit of brass//and how are the solids effectin pressure in barrel and rifeling damage since solid/solid if let say done by milling from brass block/rod do not have plasticity even of 1 or more mm copper /brass coat with lead core//and how about ballistic over distance i know u propably do not shoot 600 nitro ex like on 500 plus meter range not even for fun/target /as far as killin a real animal goes id say under 100 meter is most shoot s fired but also i am sure ssome testing on let say silhuette targets on some 300 meter range or even 500 is nostretch //so can u share any practic knowladge on that// i d be glad to hear from shooter guy //no some mathematitian doin density vs expansion vs bore pressure// just straight from the man who shooted a lot how are solids on gun ,,harmfull or no//ok i got that this gun s are propably not ment to shoot ten thousand s of round s but still // solid brass rod of half inch is hard as mild iron ,,and like 2x heawyer//while lead in 2 mm copper tube got a lot of ,,give ,,or plasticety,,we trsted hammerin on half inch solid brass and half inch copper pipe filled with molten lead and it s like stone vs sandbag//if u gotr me/so what is happening in barrel when goin solids//or do they threat brass so it s milder or WHAT PLS

Somebody should neck up the .50bmg case to .60 caliber.

@ApophaticCartesian8

8 жыл бұрын

the closest u can get is a 14.5 mm

.577 TYRANNOSAUR ALL WHAT I NEED

since ,,30 min ago , i contacted all my chemist frends /gun ,,spetialist etc // since all i managed to see is ,,1 copper solides are considerate less plyable and should raise pressure in barrel / possible even damagin barrel a bit,,not after 100 /300 shoot s but just for arguin case i bet all i got solid shoot is more ,,let say unpleasant than even hardest jacketed bullet with lead core// result i see is solid silver bullet /should not damage barrel still had some expansion that should be desirable /and since when shootin 500/ 600 nitro ,,or grain bullet s u are bound to find at least 9 of 10 bullet s fired so cashwise it again no problem,,or at least smaller problem than me in my sleep thinkin bout how longer less seal;ing bullet in my 600 nitro express gun or any / similar would micro stretch barrel or wear rifeling/,, in fact id go solid silver shoot with centerhole like few mm from the back of the bullet to approx 2/3 of bullet lenght,,and after eatin all 3 tonn of elephant just smelt the chunk again and the percent or 2 that were burnoff or lost anyhow during kill is like u can charge me // personally//plus u d get nice mushroom top i bet while no as much deformation as on jacketed bullet,,still if my precious gun was shoot on silhuette and gun is no 2/3 thousand dollar rifle but as i saw on IWA 1,5 milion euro double barrel ,plus another set of barrels /1 in 600 / 2nd in 700 nitro express// id only ONLY USE LEAD HEAWY JACKETED BULLETS WHEN ,,:) PLINKING AT SILHUETTES//SO IF U ASK ME //NO SOLIDS IN GUN //IF U INTEND TO KEEP IT LIKE ,,FOREVER ,,DOWN THE FAMILY /OR WANT TO TAKE IT TO GRAVE//PLEASE REPLY ,,I KNOW U CAN TELL SOME NEW STUFF I DID NOT GET HERE //SO I ASK AGAIN/ PLEASE MASTER //HELP USA WITH YOUR PERSONAL OPPINION //YOUR S SLOVENIAN ADMIROR /MITJA

sectional density is the factor in penetration, a 416 will out penetrate most of those bigger calibers. The bores over 458 are stopping rifles because at close range they hit a charging animal so hard it knocks it down from the energy alone. 416 and 458 caliber guns will kill all big game with proper shot placement and premium bullets. the 416 will kill farther than a 458.

@ApophaticCartesian8

8 жыл бұрын

so how would that explain the 500 nitro express solid penetrating more than the 600 overkill?

@dennisdanich7190

8 жыл бұрын

Sectional density, the bullet is longer, the fatter bullet will lose energy faster, the bullet construction is a factor as is velocity. I would not want to shoot a 600 at Right velocities. A 416 Right can be loaded to 2800 fps. the common load can penetrate an Elephants skull and exit at 100m.

@ApophaticCartesian8

8 жыл бұрын

but a 500 nitro express with a 500 grain bullet has a sectional density of .274 and the 600 overkill with a 900 grain bullet has a sectional density of .334. So the 600 overkill wins in sectional density

@dennisdanich7190

8 жыл бұрын

True, cannot be denied, I would not want to shoot one

@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443

2 жыл бұрын

Smaller diameter rounds allmost allways penetrate more than larger ones.

.600overkill-softpoint

@Knightrem

9 жыл бұрын

Pure Hell.

The 600 is as thick as a hot dog wiener for christ sakes lol

Sometimes too much penetration is a bad thing. I'm pretty sure a 500 nitro, with that much penetration, would go through a deer from one rib through the ribs on the other side. That is not an advantage since energy is being wasted as the bullet leaves through the other side. A heavier bullet with less penetration might be better to stop a deer dead. That being said, both bullets are excessive for most game hunts. You waste a lot of meat when you make these massive cavities on the animal, because that mangled dark wound meat is no good for consumption. A .300 Winchester Magnum is plenty enough for killing all games found in north america. These bullets, especially the .600, were designed for elephant hunting. There is no advantage in using them for smaller game. And if the deal is home defense, then the .500 is better because of penetration, since you could drop a bandit shooting through a door or gypsum panel walls.

@Nick-wn1xw

5 жыл бұрын

No shit! Wow! Since a 30-30 will shoot through a deer broadside your analysis of these big bore rounds is just amazing.

@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443

3 жыл бұрын

* uses .458 Win Mag to hunt deer *

Oh man how do you tolerate shooting those things? I must be a wimp. I don't even like shooting a .12 gauge slug.

and then they made the 700 nitro express

@1tufgun

9 жыл бұрын

Cairo hi. if you suggesting the 700 nitro express supersedes the various 600's, you are in error since a 1000 gr bullet at 2000 fps yields 8.800 foot pounds of muzzle energy while the 600 overkill could produce nearly 12000 foot pounds of energy but at 2300 -2400 fps (with a longer barrel) which is in the 50 BMG realm. thanks for the comment in any case. Avi

@cshetka1098

9 жыл бұрын

interesting, i didn't know that actually. thanks for your feedback

@adrianrubi5012

9 жыл бұрын

1tufgun....what barrel length would that be for the .600 Overkill?

@united-states-morons-corps8467

9 жыл бұрын

1tufgun And what about 600 Overkill vs 577 T-rex ?

@1tufgun

9 жыл бұрын

United-States-Morons-Corps no large game will ever notice the difference. a 750 grains bullet going 2400 plus versus 900 grains bullet at the same velocity attainable with the 600 overkill rifle so you do the math guys. I for one find compering cartridges performances based upon velocity for bragging rights unacceptable & pointless. AVI

458 Lott better than both. Much much cheaper and identical performance

a 338 mag will kill anything on the planet.

@1tufgun

10 жыл бұрын

Ryan. fact that mr Bell shot many elephants with a 7mm & 160 gr solid successfully always with a brain shot. which is self explanatory ! however, if you miss the shot with large dangerous game it would take off or charge you. African states require min caliber for large or dangerous game is .40. so its all about the proper caliber & bullet type for the game you hunt.. Avi

@TheManWithNoName93

10 жыл бұрын

1tufgun 375 H&H Mag is alowed

Why anyone would want to hunt "large game" is beyond my comprehension. Most "large game", elephant's, rhino's are endangered species. I know that sometimes a bull has to put down because he is older and has become aggressive towards the herd. But it is not hunting. Someone pay's thousands of dollars to be taken to the area where the bull is, have him pointed out to him so he can shoot it. I know the preserve makes money this way but the person that pays it, that thinks he is a large game hunter is an IDIOT.

@jacksmith9893

7 жыл бұрын

Lawrence Akers agree with you 100%. you should only hunt somthing you're gonna eat

@kwhemphill

6 жыл бұрын

Can you spell "Cape buffalo", legal to hunt, very large and dangerous, takes a big bullet.

@Nick-wn1xw

5 жыл бұрын

Your comprehension is limited.

@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443

3 жыл бұрын

And anyone can spend their own money however they see fit.

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