6+ things I learned by Recreating Two Steps From Hell in Cubase

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In order to learn from the granddaddy of Epic Music himself, the great Thomas Bergersen, I recreated the track "Race to Durango" by ear in Cubase. In this video, I'll go over 6+ lessons I learned while doing so.
I tried not to tie any of these lessons to specific sample libraries, in order to make them as universally applicable as possible. When I mention specific sample libraries, they are just used as an example. The ideas are transferrable to any other sample library.
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The remake - • Two Steps From Hell - ...
The original track - • Two Steps From Hell - ...
For a written version of this video - www.tomschipper.com/how-to-so...
01:42 - Lesson 1 - Layers, layers, layers
06:23 - Lesson 2 - Developing Ostinatos
10:37 - Lesson 3 - Background Filler
13:09 - Lesson 4 - Multiple Voices
14:58 - Lesson 5 - Rock Harmony
16:21 - Lesson 6 - Quick Orchestration Tips
17:54 - Mix Settings
The side-chain limiting video - • Cinematic Music Produc...
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  • @tomponist
    @tomponist2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching! This was a lot of work, but I hope this video has been of help to you! I'm looking forward to the TSFH concert in Amsterdam next week. Maybe see you there! :)

  • @MikhailSamin

    @MikhailSamin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work! Found your videos before the Amsterdam concerts, will possibly see you there =)

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MikhailSamin Thank you! Enjoy the concert, and who knows! :)

  • @PatrickLenkMusic
    @PatrickLenkMusic Жыл бұрын

    Very impressed by the level of detail and sound you re-created by ear and all the great tips you provided. Very well done!

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much, Patrick!

  • @victorhht3722
    @victorhht37223 ай бұрын

    Oh my god, just watching 5 minutes through and could resist the excitement to comment. I have never thought that the intro part would need several different sample libraries each with unique configurations to sound great. Thank you for your great work!

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @Aegis_Mind
    @Aegis_Mind5 ай бұрын

    It’s been a long time since I’ve heard sampled instruments but that sounded much better than I thought it would. Thomas’s work is all over the place in some of his tracks and I love it.

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @paulthiebaut
    @paulthiebaut2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge Tom, very valuable stuff in this video !

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Paul! I'm glad you got something out of it :)

  • @addd21323
    @addd213239 ай бұрын

    This is fantastic, thanks for doing this. I subbed and will be rewatching this video several times to really lock down all the useful knowledge you've presented here.

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot - glad it was helpful! :)

  • @MaxxMcGeeImpactStudios
    @MaxxMcGeeImpactStudios2 жыл бұрын

    That was great! Some very interesting bits there. Amazing work on the song and the video! Must have taken some time, what an effort!

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @JakobMaier
    @JakobMaier Жыл бұрын

    literally one of the best orchestration videos I've seen! I can't imagine the work you put into recreating this lol

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot, Jakob! It was quite a bit of work, but I got a lot in return, so I'm okay with it 😅

  • @CJCalvertMusic
    @CJCalvertMusic Жыл бұрын

    This is fantastic. You definitely deserve more subscribers, your content is great. . Keep it up!!

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the encouraging words! :) Working on it!

  • @VickenIshkhanian
    @VickenIshkhanian2 жыл бұрын

    This was really impressive plus the fact you did all of this in couple of weeks as you mentioned, keep it going. I have done many TSFH mock-ups but one thing I have stayed away from layering so far and haven't used side chain compression yet, also all by ear.

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Well, I hope the idea of layers and side-chain compression will be useful for your next mockups! All the best!

  • @N-JKoordt
    @N-JKoordt2 жыл бұрын

    Great work - and thank you for the tips!

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, and you’re welcome!

  • @youtoviewmusic6917
    @youtoviewmusic6917 Жыл бұрын

    It helped me a lot with my studies. Thank you. There are a lot of elements that I can hear after watching the video.✨✨

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Very happy to hear that! Thanks!

  • @TimothyShortellMusic
    @TimothyShortellMusic2 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, thank you!

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome! Thanks for watching :)

  • @csillavamossy5051
    @csillavamossy50516 ай бұрын

    This was so intereting and actually mind blowing. I was always wondering how these musics are created, and it seems crazy complex. Thank you for showing, it was really amazing to see all this. 😮❤

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @leomeneghelli1795
    @leomeneghelli17952 жыл бұрын

    Hey, man, thanx a lot for saving a time and give us gold tips like these. Ive always played the piano and now Im starting this new adventure in music and trying to write something. Im using Logic now but I think it works as well. Thank you.

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Leo, thanks for your comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Good with your adventure in writing music; it truly is a lot of fun and I hope you'll enjoy it! And Logic works very similar to Cubase, so you should be completely fine :)

  • Жыл бұрын

    Very nice! tnk you for share

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @M4T
    @M4T2 жыл бұрын

    You are a sick man ! No kidding, this mockup is incredible. I hope you booked your seat for TSHF 2 weeks from now !

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, thank you very much :). I did, so much looking forward to that one!

  • @RunarLundvall
    @RunarLundvall2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, man! All this by ear?? Really impressive stuff

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! :).

  • @canaldemais
    @canaldemais Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @ErtywekPL
    @ErtywekPL5 ай бұрын

    Not all thomas music is live musician recordings. He used PLAY Hollywood Orchestral Strings for few of his songs and they sound amazing.

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    4 ай бұрын

    That is true! His mockups are insane!

  • @mr_don_key
    @mr_don_key Жыл бұрын

    please do realize that using layered brass samples (ensembles, like 4 horns), will add up quickly, to the real amount of players. E.g. 4 horns patch from library one + 4 horn patch from library two results in 8 horn players, which is quite a large section all together (in most cases it's 4 to 6 horns in real life performances, because of the loudness they bring to the orchestra). So it you want a more realistic sounding rendering, do not layer 4 +4, but do e.g. 2+2+2, or a 2 horns patch + 4 horn patch, both result in 6 horns. Then play with velocities and expressions to better mimic a real life orchestra horn section (in relation to the others instruments).

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    I am aware of this. However, this is very context-dependent. When the goal is to write a very realistic orchestral mockup, I will for sure consider this. In this instance, however, the goal was to try and recreate what I heard on the track. I achieved this by applying these layering techniques. I don't hear 20 (or however there may be in the end) horns; I hear a massive wall of horns that pierce through in just the way I want them (by having the different sound characteristics of the various horn libraries), just as they do in the original. If I had used a 4 horns patch (or 6 horns or 9, or multiple instances of 2), the impact would not have been the same. The same goes for the strings - there are 3 different libraries in the opening, amounting to about 50-60 first violins. However, when I'm listening, I do not hear 50 violins; I hear the string sound that I want (and hear in the track), which I could only achieve by layering these libraries. This is what is so great about virtual orchestration. Sometimes you can take some liberties (in my opinion) to bend the rules a little to create the sound you want. When the listener perceives it as real (or close to the original, in this case), it doesn't matter how you got to that result. It is perceived as real, so it is real. A bit of a lengthy response, but I hope that addresses your concern :).

  • @stormtrippy

    @stormtrippy

    11 күн бұрын

    @@tomponisti totally agree and use this technique as well🔥

  • @FabianSchock
    @FabianSchock2 жыл бұрын

    Great video and remake! It's incredible how much detail, work, dedication and experience Thomas puts into his music. I've done some remakes as well. Victory was the most work, and you realize just how crazy the original is..

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! And I agree; his work is miles ahead of anyone else's in this genre in my opinion. And indeed, by diving into it like this you see the true crazyness of everything going on 😅

  • @FabianSchock

    @FabianSchock

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tomponist Definitely. What do you think of the victory remake on my channel?

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's really good; well done!

  • @FabianSchock

    @FabianSchock

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tomponist thank you a lot! :D

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FabianSchock You're welcome!

  • @crouge
    @crouge Жыл бұрын

    What a complex one, thanks for the tutorial. Btw would be awesome if you can prepare a video about the Counterparts alone. Something I am looking forward to learn more..

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! Counterpoint is a tricky subject, indeed; I'll consider doing a video on it!

  • @Muzisoccer253

    @Muzisoccer253

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@tomponist aha, I'm currently watching each one of your videos in order to find a tutoriel or a demonstration about this topic (making counterpoint and voice leading from a melody + chords piano sketch). So I agree, a video about that would be awesome ;) Thanks again !

  • @yasscat5484
    @yasscat5484 Жыл бұрын

    great job

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @Crimzan4
    @Crimzan4 Жыл бұрын

    This is really damn awesome! That must have been so much effort, haha! Will you do something like this again at some point? Thomas Bergersen is a big inspiration of mine and I was always looking for insight like this! Awesome work :)

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I'm currently working on a remake of 'Molto Piratissimo' in a series of live streams. When that is done, I'll make another overview video like this :). You can watch the first live stream here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoOAxblxZLmTg7Q.html

  • @Crimzan4

    @Crimzan4

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tomponist thank you! I'll check it out and your other content as well, you seem to have quite some noteworthy videos :)

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, and I hope you enjoy them! :)

  • @eds5709
    @eds57092 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tom. I sure learned some new techniques I might use. Enjoy the Concert in Amsterdam! If you hear a person screaming like a hysterical teenager....that's probably me on row 6. I'm looking forward to the concert ;-)

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm very glad to hear that, Ed! And I will be looking(/listening) out for you :)

  • @GoodSeedsGoodTrees
    @GoodSeedsGoodTrees Жыл бұрын

    Wow, that is so insightful to me. One of my videos got copystriked cause I used a LOT of TSFH as the background music (cause it's SO good!) and I was considering just making my own music through something like Cubase. Your video shows me that's not going to happen!! Have you ever made your own orchestrations?

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha, I get why you use so much of their music. It's GREAT! And making my own orchestrations and compositions is actually my main source of work and income :)

  • @domoso8256
    @domoso82568 ай бұрын

    Hi! I loved how realistic everything sounds, great job. What recording system are you using? Currently I’m using protools, but I’m not fond of it and I’m always looking for something better

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I'm using Cubase

  • @domoso8256

    @domoso8256

    8 ай бұрын

    Perfect, thanks. I’ll give it a try

  • @petervanleun9398
    @petervanleun93982 жыл бұрын

    Hoi Tom. Wat voor setup gebruik je? Ik heb een vrij sterke computer met 16gb ram maar merk op dat dit soort tracks nogal zwaar zijn. Wat voor computer gebruik je?

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ha Peter, ik heb een AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Processor en 64 GB aan Ram. Met 16 GB aan Ram zul je verschillende trucjes moeten gebruiken om dit soort projecten te kunnen draaien. Gebruik je de purge-functie van Kontakt, bijvoorbeeld? (Waarmee alleen de noten die je gebruikt in het Ram worden geladen)

  • @petervanleun9398

    @petervanleun9398

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tomponist Ik heb jaren te weinig gedaan maar nu de kinderen wat ouder worden wil ik het toch weer eens oppakken. Ik heb inderdaad (een oudere versie) van Kontakt en daar is nog wel wat in te tweeken. Eerst maar eens een nieuwe computer ;-) P.s. gisteren naar het concert geweest van TSFH en het was geweldig.... maar dat kon ook bijna niet anders

  • @danavzaradel
    @danavzaradel7 ай бұрын

    do you mind sharing your computer specs? I don't think my pc can handle that many channels... also, for some reason when I layer different libraries they don't really match in attack time which is quite annoying, they tend to have different crescendos for bow strings or even horns... any tips for how to handle that?

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    7 ай бұрын

    Sure - My PC is running the following specs: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 64 GB RAM Samples running from 2 internal M.2 SSD Drives (Both are 2 TB) GeForce GTX 1660 In terms of attack times, you might have to set up track delays for certain libraries (CSS needs those for example). check out David Kudell's video on the subject!

  • @danavzaradel

    @danavzaradel

    7 ай бұрын

    @@tomponistgreat setup thanks a lot :)

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    7 ай бұрын

    You're welcome!@@danavzaradel

  • @RyanKennethFord
    @RyanKennethFord11 ай бұрын

    08:59

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks :) (I guess 😅)

  • @RyanKennethFord

    @RyanKennethFord

    10 ай бұрын

    @@tomponist Thank you i been trying to figure out the layering off ostinatos for ages and this is the best break down i have seen.

  • @homeofcreation
    @homeofcreation11 ай бұрын

    Fantastich. Wagner zou jaloers zijn op deze instrumentatie.

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    11 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @hattietyrone7046
    @hattietyrone70462 жыл бұрын

    ░p░r░o░m░o░s░m░ 🌈

  • @tomponist

    @tomponist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not sure how to respond, but thanks for commenting :)

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