I know on paper it is less horsepower for the money than competitors but comparison really is the thief of all joy. Nothing quite gets you as excited as seeing a red Ducati Panigale in your garage every morning. Even kids react differently in public when they see a Ducati vs say a Yamaha and kids don't lie. There's something special about them and that makes them worth the money. P.S. love the MM93 helmet!

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

Can’t argue with that! Nothing will ever fire up your heart like a panigale

@ianwarren8316

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t get it (my sons an ex BSB Ducati rider / fanatic with 23 Ducati’s in his past) but he persuaded me to change the Honda CBR650R to a Panigale V2 and now I get it in spades! Honda was a great first big bike! Ish! But the Panigale is another level! What a machine! I’m in love, with my son and my bike! Mind after drooling over his Carbon Wheels this weekend (v4 Panigale SP2) and listening to him tell me my V2 feels lighter! Sure it can’t be, I’m eyeing up £2,000 carbon wheels thinking I really want/need them! I’m hooked now, dumb it!

Put in your living room and admire all night long. It is one of the best looking sports bike.

i m really glad to hear about the weather in some random place 7 months ago. Really.

The SuperSport tank shape is on point, it’s got comfy concave scallops for knees,& one for forearms and elbows both sides.

The tank size and slim design is EXACTLY why I sold my 2020 V2 and ordered a V4S. You hit the nail on the head with that one!

@ianwarren8316

Жыл бұрын

Loving 🥰 V2 at the moment! 2 years ago 125 Suzuki GSX-S125 1 year ago Honda CBR650R, this year Panigale V2! Will admit with the slim tank sliding into the tank with my crotch today wasn’t great but it’s at least a year more likely a few before the full stupid 220HP V4 with Akrapovik makes sense !

@ianwarren8316

Жыл бұрын

As an ex BSB racer my son hated his V4S because is wasn’t exciting enough! It wasn’t trying to kill him and found it full! But I’m at least a year off, possibly two before I go fro. A Panigale V2 to the V4S

@vgogginz

Жыл бұрын

@@ianwarren8316 The V2 is an excellent bike and probably the best road bike out there as far as “usable power” goes. However due to its design I fold myself clinching down on the tank with my legs more often, especially with aggressive engine braking. The V4 being a bit beefier in that area really helps.

@ianwarren8316

Жыл бұрын

@@vgogginz I know what you mean, hit a pothole on Saturday and bits of me hit the tank that didn’t enjoy it! Not too hard but definitely not fun despite seeing it and gripping with my legs!

You are spoiled by the V4. When you buy the V4R then the V4 will look like nothing to your eyes.... And when you get into a jet fighter then the V4R will be too slow! The main disadvantages of the V2 in my opinion are the price and the power to weight ratio. If it was like 5k less, 170hp and 165kg everyone would say is the best bike bla bla bla

I took your advice. Got dealer too fit exhaust system. Payed $700 aussie dollars for fitting. Points your don't like about the bike are minor things. I like your reasoning for buying standard v4 over v4s.. I love my Bayliss. Keep doing your channel. Your info is very informative 👌

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

Wow that's a solid price for the install on that exhaust! And yeah I love my bayliss to it's one of the coolest bikes Ducati has ever made I think. Thanks for watching and commenting I love the interaction

I have 3month old v2 bayliss and love apart from the tricky side stand and 160bhp is still a rocket ship to me, the v4 is the nuts but not for the roads we're the v2 is perfect.

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more the v2 is a freaking missile it’s insane. I had no issues at the race track keeping up with guys on r1’s on the straights

No. 6 is absolutely 100% true. It is the worst bike I’ve ever taken apart. Great video!

Not sure if you are still uploading content but I have a question. What are you using for the front fender on your V2? Thanks in advance.

Utter tripe The base Panigale isn’t the Bayliss addition with Akrapovic it’s the V2 at just over $17,000 so whining about the cost having picked the special edition bayliss version with Ohlins suspension and Stylema Brenbos is just missleading! Can’t be assed to watch passed 2 mins

Good insights

I am sure that you are the right person to ask my personal question. I'm thinking of buying between the v2 bayliss and the base v4. I would use it for mountain pass roads and 2 circuits a year. I have heard that the v4 is a crazy beast out of control on tight curved roads. What can you advise me? thanks!

@desmoholic.racing

8 ай бұрын

Well the V4 is no out of control. It’s more refined and a better engine overall. But if your 90 percent street riding it the V2 would be a better bet. The V4 is so fast for the roads it’s hard to even tap into what it offers. The V2 is pushing the edge of what you can really use on the street. Both are absolutely amazing in their own ways. But as a street only bike the V2 would be my pick

Toe sliders are for sliding your toes on the track! Morning about them doing that just does makes you look daft!

At last someone who did not go on about the heat. I don't agree that you have to change the exhaust though - the stock one on my Bayliss at least would wake the dead and it looks pretty nice too. If fact my Bayliss is still stock and my bike is early 2022. I don't plan on changing anything. I know I am older (64) but I insure all my 6 bikes one of which is a 2021 BMW S1000RR M for €500 all on the one policy. Bike insurance seems extraordinarily expensive in the USA even allowing for your age. I am in Ireland.

@henryshamamian3755

8 ай бұрын

It's nice to hear from another "older" rider. I'm 62 and I have a Bayliss. I do track days and ride it hard. I installed the Arrows slip-on and the Up Map (Termi) mapping. The bike sounds awesome and the power increase very noticeable.

I track my Bayliss as well. For me, it's the perfect track bike because it has enough power, it's forgiving, and I am constantly learning. I love that you did not change your clutch cover. I think the stock look is a part of the design. Have you tracked the bike with slicks?

@desmoholic.racing

8 ай бұрын

I did run slicks on that bike and I only run slicks these days. The engine is a gem with the power is makes. It’s so easy to ride I truly love that fact and the sound is to die for. I agree as well the stock look of that bike is as good as it gets and I like staying close to that look

Would you buy it again?

I agree with all points here. Have owned a V2 for three years.

I just flashed my Bayliss with BT Moto's tune. Picked up 20whp. Front wheel is lifting in 3rd above 9.5k now. Crazy fast. You should try their flash tune and installing a Sprint P08 air filter.

@ApexMotow

Жыл бұрын

Which exhaust are you running?

@codyhanthorn4270

11 ай бұрын

Thats a solid tune increase. What pipe/ Exhaust with thost numbers?

Quite insightful thanks. You ought to re-do the tank grips cause they are not greatly done.

Just looking at the photo when you are talking about wind protection. I could be totally off, but it looks like you're too far forward in your position. If you have the leg strength you wanna scoot back and hike your butt up in the air. If you don't have the leg strength then at least scoot back. You'll find you'll be able to get back behind it just a bit better. With that said it is a small windscreen. Enjoying watching the journey. Keep up the great work and growth. Also dig the longer formatted videos.

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think rear sets and a race wind screen would do wonders for this bike. BUT I’m trying to hold off on anything since I’ve been going a little crazy lately 😂. And thanks man I really appreciate it!! It’s an awesome feeling when o get comments like these

My dealer just quoted me $27k OTD. How did you get it for $21k?

@desmoholic.racing

3 ай бұрын

When I bought the bike the MSRP was 21k, freight and prep was 1,436 and tax + doc was 1,724 for me. So back then I was over 24k for just the bike not including the exhaust. They raised the MSRP's on everything a lot over the past couple years

Thinking of racing one of these…

Only 160 hp. Man bikes make so much power and have so many rider aids we can now shrug at 160 hp.

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t it insane. 160 hp still moves that bike like a missile but yeah when the liter class is all 200 plus hp it seems down on power on paper

@DimitriLeeBX

Жыл бұрын

@@desmoholic.racing I deal with that too when I'm on my bike I can't imagine riding anything else then I see a Brutale 1000RR and the lust begins.

@rerrostyle7655

Жыл бұрын

Yes guy's but best excitement come with getting does Maschines in higher rpms. That's why is R6 so popular. It give you fastest in the world feeling. And leader class is way to powerful, it's about 2 gear play and struggle with way to much torque. I find V2 at perfect spot 🤌

@ianwarren8316

Жыл бұрын

I’ve got the V2 it’s plenty for the road and about to find out in May just how good it is on track but a lot of reviews rate it as so much easier to ride that you enjoy it all day at the fly rack when the V4 will tire you out in 2 hrs (unless your young and very fit anyway!)

@ianwarren8316

Жыл бұрын

@@desmoholic.racing yep but still does 0-60 under 3 seconds and carries on to 175mph It’s still bloody quick!

Ommmm it was great ommmmm

I was just sitting on one of these at Ducati Cleveland

@ianwarren8316

Жыл бұрын

And now you want one? If not take it for a test ride and then you will! I know I did and that’s the bike I now own!

There is no price limit on feelings

Uhhh you can pick up a 1299 or 1199r for under $20k

Buying two very similar but at the same time different variations of two sports bikes from the same manufacturer will surely mean you will be constantly comparing them and given you track it and the V4 the poor V2 will always come out the loser in that contest. I recently sold my Triumph T120 because it was always coming out second best to my Thruxton R but it was a bit unfair comparing them as each bike is intended for a different kind of owner just like the V2 vs V4. In my case because I could not afford a V4.

The total cost of your bike is bordering on the v4s. The v4s is a track ready bike with awesome ohlins electronic suspension and rated at 215 hp. You also mentioned that you are running out of gear. The reason for that is Ducati engineered the v2 for the street. Good luck with your bikes and if you can do more extended track footage would keep me interested. Thank you.

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

Actually headed to Florida in two weeks with my v2 and my v4 so track footage is coming soon for sure. And yeah it’s def more of a street bike I 100000 percent agree. That bike was me getting back into motorcycling after a while so I didn’t want to much power and I didn’t think I’d get into the track as much as I have. I do love the hell out of it tho so much it’s got character that’s for sure

@Atlan_tis

Жыл бұрын

V2 bayliss is already track bike too, and has Ohlins too, it’s same as V4S only in V2 shape

@NuvolariF1

Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to some awesome videos. 👍👍👍

@NuvolariF1

Жыл бұрын

Also if you can do videos of your track preparations. Thank you.

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

@@NuvolariF1 you bet I’ll have tons of stuff

If you're squeezing a tank with your thighs under braking on a track, you're doing it wrong ....

@TomaszSkwarek83

Жыл бұрын

lol , you should take your own advise.

I will have it if you hate it I’m on Lake Erie in Canada send it over

@shazshaz7045

Жыл бұрын

Just joking man I’m rebuilding my srad blew up the motor

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

used one with 3 thousand miles on it 14,500 bucks😂. 30 grand you out your mind. i found a 1299s with2 thousand miles on it for 16 grand

Jeez, what do you do for a living? I'm northeast Ohio rolling a monster 797 and a 9 year old Tacoma. You hiring?

Lol 😂, complaining for you - for me is perfect, I owe a V2 bayliss and I know how expensive it is 😂, well Suzuki is cheaper, not everyone can afford a Ducati, but at same time is hard to replace Ducati with something else, just because of the sound and the feel or Italian 👌 V4 is too much 🤯 , V2 is not slow, 155hp V2 can give a good run to a 180hp bikes , V2 is light

@christospakyriakou

Жыл бұрын

V4 is lighter than the V2... And at the same time 215bhp... However I agree with everything else you said.

@Atlan_tis

Жыл бұрын

@@christospakyriakou what year and model you taking about V4 is lighter then V2 ? V2 bayliss 385 Lb dry , yes 215 bhp v4 is a lot hp , for me is a lot honestly at the moment, my V2 bayliss is not stock by the way, and I can’t even imagine a V4 🤯, im working on my skills and one day will give it a try V4

@christospakyriakou

Жыл бұрын

@@Atlan_tis Every year since 2018 that the V4 came out is lighter. If not lighter exaclty the same kgs which makes it a rocket.

@Atlan_tis

Жыл бұрын

@@christospakyriakou yes, it’s crazy same weight with so much power, im not there yet lol 😂

A quarter of the total cost on an exhaust?? Jeez

holy shit i paid 30k for my 22 v4s

@desmoholic.racing

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the bayliss doesn’t come cheap unfortunately. Payed 31k for my 23 v4 base with the full under tail Akra system

@controversyV4S

Жыл бұрын

@@desmoholic.racing yea that under tail Akra is super nice

Gosh those scratches on the windscreen and paint is absurd

@Bon-mz5kb

Жыл бұрын

can you stop saying um um um, can probably save 1 minute off the video

Gears! Learn to use them!

Drama man

Don’t know why you bought it LOL

Mate get ride of the bike and stop complaining