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@kluthage421

Жыл бұрын

Agree...it's a turd

@elgringoec

Жыл бұрын

I haven't ridden one of this model but my mental summary was the same as yours, having ridden many bikes over the years. I turned my KTM 300 into a dual sport and that's what I ride off-road plus the roads to/from and connecting trails. It cranks on the road too. Def not for hauling luggage nor pillion.

@samtheman1287

Жыл бұрын

400cc !! That's the only thing this bike needs to be The Unicorn Everybody wants... ...and cruise control... Suspension could be better but let's be honest, it's the first thing to get modded after tires... Save the Doe $$$

@neil_the_wheel3493

Жыл бұрын

Agree that it is not a bike that fits what you like. Disagree that it is a bad bike, it is just a bit unique, as you mentioned. I added Rally Raid suspension and some light luggage and it makes a great western states exploration bike where you pick a route that avoids traffic and high speed highways and optimize the route for interesting and forgotten twisty 2 lanes and dirt roads. That is where the best riding is anyway. It is ultimately reliable, very predictable and easy to get through difficult sections that bigger bikes struggle with, and it is very inexpensive to purchase, own, and travel on. The fairings provide great protection from cold and rain and the whole bike just chugs along through whatever happens without any drama. Of course, you should avoid freeways on a 300. Freeways and high speeds are not what this bike is about. Agree that it is not "exciting", except for the exciting destinations that it can take you. It has a place in the market and I am glad that Honda produced it and sells it for such a reasonable price. I see it as a value adventure lite motorcycle where the chosen route avoids high speed highways.

@elgringoec

Жыл бұрын

@@neil_the_wheel3493 That's awesome! It looks like we're all in full agreement then. All meaning you and Ian, and I.

Nobody who wants to go fast buys this bike so it’s not a negative that it doesn’t go fast: it’s a feature.

Thanks for the shout out, bro! I'll beat the hell out of this thing for you ;)

There needs to be a category of adventure/enduro bikes called "Useful not Thrilling". We all know they're there, like the KLR650, the Himalayan, the CB500X, and the CRF300L Rally. Bikes that are meant to go places and see things that are the thrill, rather than be the thrill itself. Some people eat really hot food because they enjoy the pain. Some people want to ride heavy bikes with far more horsepower than required at speeds they probably shouldn't go. Most of us are relaxed riders though and we're more interested in the reliable and useful bike that takes us anywhere without complaint as efficiently as possible. Yes, we are looking for the useful adventure motorcycle, not the thrilling (scary?) adventure motorcycle.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@lord.of_iron

Жыл бұрын

I actually respect that he said this bike was "utilitarian" in nature. That's actually an apt description and one of the best factors for a large chunk of riders out there.

@ioda006

Ай бұрын

the subaru of motorcycles

@hi9580

29 күн бұрын

Overlander vs rock bouncer.

Your review is very accurate as you said , for you . I am 69 years old ,my 300 L is just about perfect for me . Hate the small gas tank . I have to take Ben Dork views with a grain of salt , as his weight is over 300 LBS. At my stage in life I am looking for dependable fun . I think Honda has a perfect bike for younger and older riders , maybe not so much the middle years . Thank you for your valued views .

@DaveHWasHere

Жыл бұрын

I'm also an older rider with a 300L. And for me it is also just about perfect. When he was saying in the video that it was more for exploratory riding than aggression, he was describing me. Mine has never been on a highway, and never will be. Mine has never jumped, and it never will. What it does do amazingly is putt putt me through trails and neighborhoods. It is exactly what I want in my dual sport fun.

@steveh545

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Different courses for horses, or however that goes. It’s not for everyone. It’s not for Ian. It’s not perfect for dirt or road, but it’s not meant to be. Jack of all trades, master of none. Like the KLR (just lighter) or the Himalayan. We have to stop equating power with fun. That’s a personal preference not a universal idiom.

@scottsmith1897

Жыл бұрын

I am older also and love the weight of the 300l I have. Dumped it in the snow and wasnt bad to pick up compared to the KLR I had years ago. Yes have put a few dollars into the 300 in hop ups but am always going to do that. The 300 works for me.......

@Crittermoto

Жыл бұрын

I own the 250l and love it! It’s the perfect bike for me. I’m friends with Ben, Dork in the Road, and the running joke is: everything Ben said this bike couldn’t do or wasn’t good at….I prove him wrong 😂 I camp off of mine, I ride single track, I explore and I regularly go on long distance adventures. I have upgraded the suspension, huge game changer there. I’ve also added a larger tank and slip on exhaust. Aside from that the bike is still pretty much stock with the exception of some creature comforts. The 250’s and 300’s from Honda are great motorcycles.

@dragoclarke9497

Жыл бұрын

I'm 67 and was thinking of this bike. Up to about minute 10 I was a bit put off. However when he described the rider who might suit this bike IT'S ME. A good video from a presenter who realises that everyone is different.

I think your review was spot on, from a review perspective, and it's not for everyone. Firstly, your honesty and unbiased opinion is well put. You do a good job at being objective without being offensive or come off as too opinionated, and I appreciated that. However, as an owner of a 300l rally, I can say you might have missed a beat. Most folks don't own more that one or two bikes, so a do everything is going to be hard to find in a entry/mid tier offering. I'm pushing 300lbs fully loaded, so I feel your pain in the suspension and power realm. However, modifications and motorcycles go together like lamb and tuna fish (or perhaps you like spaghetti and meatball?) and finding a well rounded bike that can be tailored to a specific owners needs is a big win. I bought mine sight unseen, literally, never saw one before. But, I look at it like an SUV, of sorts, it does all the things most people look for in a jeep or a Tahoe. That's sort of its calling card, being not exactly good at any one thing, but capable of everything in some small ways, not unlike an SUV. For me, getting into a dual sport for a reasonable cost with the intentions of modifications for custom needs, I think it ticks a lot of boxes. Rear spring and shock, front springs, tusk bars and bags and tires and all sorts, racks, lights, power mods, all things that most folks enjoy the journey and the outcome, while still cruising town, quick trips to the shop, crawling a sand dune, crossing a country, wheelie practice, teaching a friend or spouse, low maintenance, rock solid reliability, and more. This is a swiss army knife, not a Benchmade. And I think that's important. Again, lights out review, nicely done. But I don't think you're the average buyer. You're the Ford Raptor buyer, amongst a sea of a shit load of exploders and expeditions by the millions. I think this bike is the jeep wrangler, in it's ability to be a fun, mostly practical application that needs customization to be unique. Even as an owner, I'd love to buy a bigger faster bike of course, but don't see a reason to ever sell the rally. Cheers brother, keep the good content coming!

I bought a very lightly used one last year and have had a great time with it. I'm now 71yo, weigh 75kg/165 lbs and hadn't owned a bike in 40 yrs. I mainly drive on gravel rds and secondary hwys. It's reliable. Not too heavy. Not expensive for insurance or to maintain. I've done a couple of trips on it from central Canada to the East Coast and also down to New England. 70mph/110kmph is fine for me. I've had enough adrenaline. So all in all its totally fine for me :)

@Noadvantage246

10 ай бұрын

Honestly, SOOO many better (and legal) ways to get adrenaline then speeding on a bike and pulling wheelies. I’m only a 24yo but that still seems very dumb, immature, and dangerous to me. Go on a roller coaster, go zipplining, bungee jumping, kart racing, etc.

@MTJoe406

10 ай бұрын

@@Noadvantage246 At 24 if you feel that way then you have reached the maturity beyond your years, which is a great thing! Motor on...

@robmcguckin7605

9 ай бұрын

@@Noadvantage246 If you think going on a roller coaster or a zip line is an adrenaline rush, maybe the CRF 300 is too much bike for you?

@robmcguckin7605

9 ай бұрын

Yawn

@Noadvantage246

9 ай бұрын

@@robmcguckin7605 If you’re talking pure G force good roller coasters provide way more Gs than a bike can. For zip lines it depends, there’s ziplines that send ppl slinging +100mph over 10,000ft crevices.

"Utilitarian" was a very accurate term for this bike. I weigh 160lbs, I just picked up a 300L non-rally because I need something that will be phenomenal on fuel consumption/mileage, comically low maintenance, gets me from A to B using mostly midwest country roads, minimal highways, and a fair bit of trails for fun. I could see suspension being an issue at some point, but I'll deal with that later if so. Bases on what you've said here, I'd say the 300L suits my needs just fine.

@TommyNitro

Жыл бұрын

Yep. It's a great value for the price.

@kluthage421

Жыл бұрын

drz400S or E

@victoriazero8869

Жыл бұрын

AFAIK the non-Rally version had slightly stiffer suspension. Which is good. I don't know why they put that mushy fork on the Rally, though.

@ajseusa1488

Жыл бұрын

@@victoriazero8869 The 300L Rally has the exact same front fork as the 300L except for the Rally has a stiffer spring rate, so I do not know what you are talking about. The 250L Rally is a completely different front fork than the 250L and it IS a different feel. (You can look the parts up if you don't believe me. It may be different in other parts of the world, but in North America they use the exact same damper cartridge part #, but the Rally has a stiffer spring to compensate for the weight difference.)

@victoriazero8869

Жыл бұрын

@@ajseusa1488 Ah, my mistake then. I assume you're American? If yes, the CRF250L is entirely different bike than CRF300L. In Asia, however, the CRF250L use the same frame. Because in America, what known as CRF250L is 2017 model or older, while CRF300L is 2019 model and newer. In Asia, CRF250L also got updated in 2019. So I must have misremembered.

I owned the 300l for a few months and I agree with pretty much all said here. But I will say, for very causal riders, or new riders, or older riders that just want a relaxing chilled ride over some interesting terrain, then the comically soft suspension actually is a then a good set up. If you don’t want to cover ground quickly and you are going over very chattery/bumpy ground the soft suspension glides over small bumps where “proper” off road suspension would shake a inexperienced rider around and give them a more stressful tiring experience. It really is ideal for riders that want to go at a slow relaxed pace, but still want to go over difficult terrain.

Good review. I bought the 300L because I wanted a handy bike for around town and something I could explore tracks and dirt roads on. Yeah, the performance is not exciting but its okay for me at 180lb. At least I won't loose my licence. The maintenance is low, its economical and cheap to buy. Its easy to ride due to its weight and overall size. If you want to go fast, do hard core off road, or long highway miles there are definitely better options. But for me, as a one bike owner, it suits my needs.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Very well said

@wayward03

11 ай бұрын

If the suspension was better and it had more low end torque it would be a much better bike IMHO. Xr400 ish, because the 450L is not a 400 replacement.

@Noadvantage246

10 ай бұрын

@@wayward03The suspension is a weird thing to complain about because everyone replaces it anyways. Even on the bikes with “really good” suspension ppl still replace it. It’s probably better all around they keep it cheaper and let you get your own

@RenegadeMaster_

3 ай бұрын

Amen brother

After 13 months, 1700 miles, and many upgrades later, the 300 Rally has been the perfect bike for me. I purchased the bike so that I would have something to tackle the Trans America Trail with, and its perfect for that, in my opinion. Also, I live where there are no freeways, just HWY’s and interstates, and I avoid the interstate if I can. If I can’t, it’s usually only for about 5-10 miles at a time. I just hate riding on the street anymore, and I avoid it as much as I can (lots of back roads). I’ve had too many close calls, and lost too many friends to motorcycle accidents, and they were all going way faster than they should have been. Which is a self control thing, I get that. Maybe I don’t have the self control that I should? I’m 51, and in my 20’s I had all the fast crotch rockets and I would take them to the quarter mile track on the weekends, only if I wasn’t racing my CR250 on the MX track. I’ve come to a place in my life where I’m content, and this bike just serves me well. With that being said, if the DRZ400 were to be updated, and they offered a Rally version, then I might consider selling my Rally... Also, if I rode motorcycles for a living, than just maybe things would be a little bit different, but I think that goes back to the self control thing.., No offense to you, I admire what you do, and I appreciate your content! Edit: I’ve dropped my bike 8-10 times, and with the lower crash bars that I installed, it doesn’t have one crack in it anywhere, it hardly has any noticeable scratches.

@TylerMcCool

Жыл бұрын

Which crash bar lower are you using on your Rally? Thanks

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for sharing

@HypeRapEnjoyer

Жыл бұрын

Jeeze, only 1700 miles in over a year. I guess a lot of bikes would be perfect if you hardly ever ride them 😏

@airadaimagery692

Жыл бұрын

@@HypeRapEnjoyer Not really sure what your point is, my life doesn’t revolve around my motorcycles. However, one year and 1700 miles is a fair enough time and distance to make a decent assessment on the machine, which was the point of my comment. If you haven’t figured out what you got by then, your not paying attention to what you are riding. Furthermore, I feel the that the bike is good for 100k miles if maintained properly. Jeez...

@allistairneil8968

10 ай бұрын

It should do more even if you don't maintain it!😅

I turned a used $4800 300L with 600 miles into a Rally. Zeta screen, YSS rear shock, 550 ECU, Seat Concept, Acerbis 3.7 tank... the works. It's a $7200 unicorn now. I am rural and 60. I don't need a bike to get on the freeway and am over the moto Napoleon syndrome.

It's just built for a different market. Latin America, South East Asia, in these parts of the world your average highway speed is way less due to traffic and road conditions. So power is not an issue. As for suspension, in example average male's weight in Indonesia is around 140 pounds. And while having soft suspension is not good for enduro trails, but it's perfect to soak up bad roads with potholes or unpaved roads in decent condition. Also the price - something like Tenere 700 or KTM 890 simply costs way too much for these markets.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Very true

Hmm, I am over 60 years old, 178 pounds and fully enjoy my Rally riding in desert around Palm Springs. It serves me very comfortably up to 25mph that's actually speed limit on public trails as I know. I can lift it up myself riding solo thru desert and once I go farther with luggage I am ready to install K-tech suspension. I have inseam only 28", so I got lower Kouba link and low profile seat from Seat Concept. that lowered my bile about 3 1/2'. T-Rex stand took care of lowered high. I can't deny I bought it after watching Itchy Boots, even lost 30 lb to enjoy more my Rally. But since I bought riding it brought me a lot of happiness to my life.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, enjoy!

Another wonderful video, thank you Ian 👏🏻 This is the only motorcycle reviewing channel that I don't feel like I'm watching an advertisement.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!

@larryvanputten4048

Жыл бұрын

However, mind you, Ian is sponsored by several brands too! 😉

@Dirtpoorhomesteader

Жыл бұрын

@@larryvanputten4048 it doesn’t seem to cause him to pull any punches. Most motorcycle journalists wouldn’t even dare to say some of the negatives he will say outright. They are more interested in getting invites to the next press launch than helping you purchase your next bike. Rather pointless people to society when you think about it.

I think your reviews are accurate based on the amount of different bikes you ride. That is a good thing. A perfect bike does not exist. I really think you do a very good job of listing the pros and cons of each bike and noting many of the exceptions to your judging. That's really important. Keep up the good work.

For the European market, this bike is simply unique. There is nothing else on its price and especially weight (well, there is the Voge, if you dig cinese clones). The Euro 5 limitations removed all other possibilities from the market. That's what makes it special in my opinion. It's cheap, even if you consider upgrading the suspensions, super reliable, lightweight, with most fuel range than everything else, with long maintenance intervals, with a real dual-sport frame and setup (tall, high ground clearance). Itchy Boots surely doesn't have the mass of a north american man, but she still rides with full luggage, and she goes literally everywhere.

@AceCarleton

6 ай бұрын

Itchy boots now has a full Rally raid suspension kit in hers.

I own the Honda CRF300L (not the Rally). The suspension went from super soft to phenomenal after upgrading it both front and rear (Rally Raid) for around $1,600. Now it is a phenomenal trail bike for me. When exploring single track trails and/or very rough terrain I don't need (or want) a large amount of power. I also own an Aprilia Tuareg 660 for longer distance ADV riding. Owning both of these bikes works well for me. I agree with everything that you said about the Honda. FYI, I bought the CRF300L largely based upon your review last year & suspension upgrade suggestion -- many thanks!

Incredible full review series on the 300 Rally. Just picked mine up this week, suspension upgraded - there's just no way around it. Going from an 1150GSA to this for light weight, secondary road travel, and east coast BDR's & TAT. Skipping around town this thing is a BLAST! It's just so easy to ride, to the gym, the office, and just out and about. It's simply just a FUN machine. It's also a great setup for my teenage son to learn to ride, easy, and won't get too far away from him. This will be in my garage forever - future purchases do include based on your reviews, the Aprilia Tuareg 600, and a R1250RT for long distances. I'll never sell the GSA and now the Rally. Please keep up the amazing unbiased reviews.

You're right on everything you say. I have one and love it. I had the KTM350 exec-f, and it had a magical suspension, but when it was on the road it would shake at speeds over 50 mph, and in the corners it was just too tall and twitchy. My 300L is so buttery smooth that I feel like I'm on a Disney ride. Yes, the acceleration is not thrilling, but it's just so comfortable. With the stock tires I can corner this thing on pavement like it's a road bike. The slipper clutch is so fun. My KTM also had starting issues, and here in Alaska, there's not always someone to come get you if you can't start. One time I had to push start it, and lucky I was on a hill. This Honda starts if you just look at the starter button, and that adds to the experience for me.

@Dirtpoorhomesteader

Жыл бұрын

Having a bike you know will get you home adds to the ride. It removes a subtle layer of anxiety.

@lowersaxon

2 күн бұрын

Well said! Hondian here.

I'm 71 and 5'7" and only 145 pounds so this bike would be perfect for me . Watching Itchy Boots ride this thing over some gnarly terrain all over the world is proof enough for me. I'm fortunate to own a Triumph Tiger 850 Sport which is in a different league. That's what I ride when I want some excitement.

This is the classic apples to oranges thing. The CRF300L Rally was not designed to be the bike that can do the things you found it falling short of. I mean, would you review a Mini Cooper and comment that it just doesn't hold a whole family and be disappointed about it? The CRF300L Rally was not designed to be aggressive. It was not designed to be fast or powerful like your other bikes with easily twice (or more) the hp, gearing, suspension. What I think you are missing, good Sir, is that you tested/reviewed it expecting it to be different than was it was designed to be - or at least that's how your review came across to me, not that you went into it thinking that way....it just happened to turn out that way.

A fair and accurate assessment I have a crf300 rally, I weigh 75kg and I've installed the Rally Raid level one suspension front and rear as well as fatbars, risers, metal skid plate, carry rack, tusk foot pegs barkbuster hand protection and handlebar end weights that have all made the bike more comfortable and practical. I bought the bike to suit a purpose as I travel long distances on back roads and traverse steep tracks with rough and loose surfaces. I've been riding for 48 years and have had many bikes. The crf300 rally is not perfect but fits the use case that I experience Speed safely

I like your honest take on this. Concerning adventuring, it sure would get you there (no matter where) but I think it depends on how you want to make the journey. I think there are better commuter vehicles like a versys if you want an example. Please do enjoy this bike if you have it!

You are without a doubt, the most unbiased motorcycle journalist on the interwebs. I enjoyed watching this review and appreciate the balance you present. This might be a bike for me under certain circumstances, but I would probably want something with a little "more."

I’ve been looking to this bike many times since it came out on the market, but for exactly the reasons you mention, each time I gave up for getting one, pretty sure that excitement would be missing every ride. Thanks for your videos, always very well done 👍

I an that video is the essence why you are the best tester on youtube. You call it as you see it, no bullshit and every detail explained, no company shill stuff, just straight up. Thanks for being you.

Noraly dragged Alaska out of the deep sticky jungle mud in Guatemala, twice in the same day, and still published two of her best videos. Sometimes light weight is the only thing that brings you home. S6-E71-72 🙂👍👍

@nyedavis922

Жыл бұрын

There's always one...

@FnLn55

Жыл бұрын

currently 37:1 ... and you're it.

I appreciate your honesty! I'm retired and ride a tuned SuperTenere but want a second bike to haul on a hitch carrier for exploring backroads when traveling. My cardiologist strongly suggests no adrenaline. This bike seems near perfect for my needs after suspension modification.

You hit the nail on the head Ian with the overall review. I feel a lot of it comes down to where geographically we live, how wide our wallets can be opened and personal choices in general define which motorcycle can work best for us at that certain time. We are in time in the world where if our opinions on any topic arent embraced by all, it turns to anger for most. You did the Honda justice and provided an absolutely unbiased truthful review knowing you were entering the "hot zone." I keep up with many of today's top motorcycle channels on KZread and there's a reason yours gains subscribers faster than anyone else currently. Ride safe.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@hossp2365

Жыл бұрын

I agree it was a great review- but very USA focused I feel. Most places in the world 100 -110kmh is about the max allowed (60-70mph) and if you are on an adventure trip, why do 140 kmh? Do the suspension and it is an awesome bike fit it’s intended role. 🎉

@dennishaldiman6087

Жыл бұрын

This bike review is great, but gaining subscribers faster than anyone else? Itchy Boots has 1,600,000 subs compared to 166,000 on this channel. That is ten times the growth. But, she has made many changes to her 300 Rally along the way, including a complete re-build last fall which included many upgrades.

Thank you for your honesty. I really appreciated this video. Might be what I’m looking for. Good job again 👍🏼

As with all your reviews, refreshingly honest and nicely detailed! Thank you for this and all your other videos! Looking forward to the next!

Great review. I have one on order and I still can't wait to get it. I think the only point you were missing was that this bike can do almost everything, but nothing great. If you could only have one bike, this is the one I'm getting because of its versatility and reliability. I own 4 motorcycles now covering all types of riding, I'm selling all of them and just getting one. And that's the Crf300 rally. But I will be changing the rear suspension for sure. Thanks for the honest review.

@jaimemetcher388

Жыл бұрын

You've nailed the common flaw with moto journo bike reviews. They always have access to a better bike, and they never met an extra 30hp they didn't like. This is a great review, though.

Ian, you finally got it with that first "pro" that you thought of at the last minute, but after 6 months of having the bike: dual sport/adventure. I've ridden my 300 Rally on multiple interstate rides (USA) on freeways to BDRs and quite enjoy it. My stable is going down to this one bike now. I can sustain 80mph on the freeway fully loaded when needed, and then ride dirt/trails. It's not perfect for either end of the spectrum, but it's the best compromise I've found.

Another fantastic video. Thank you so much for your honesty!! Hopefully Honda is listening and will make adjustments to their upcoming models to fit what we are looking for!!

@michaelskinner896

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure that Honda could be listening, but good luck with them doing anything. They're such a conservative company.

You present your findings clearly and impartially. The significant difference is, as you accurately pointed out, that of experience. For the more reserved and cautious rider this bike is ideal. For the skilled rider, it's shortcomings are quickly apparant. Thanks Ian for making that point concisely.

I think that you nailed it concerning the review. I own a 300 Rally and I had bigger bikes. But I used my Rally on back and dirt road mostly on my own. So I do need something light, light enough to be picked-up with one arm...just in case. Although it lacks power, it can travel at 110kms per hour and that is ok with me. I intend to take it to Africa, probably Morocco (love that country), and having crossed the Sahara desert a long time ago, I wouldn't take any bike with electronics. When you are somewhere with no living soul for the next 300, 400 or more miles, you want an easy, simple and robust bike. The rest, you accomodate with it. As they used to say in Africa, you have the watch, we have the time. Please give it a thought. Ride safe

Good review. At the end of the day, it's about knowing what you want from a bike and having realistic expectations for it. The 300L Rally can certainly do most anything you want it to. In the last month, I went from a Triumph Tiger 800xc, to the 2022 CRF 300L Rally and I have ZERO regrets. I'm having so much more fun on the Rally and will be keeping it mostly stock for the time being. I'm 6'3, 170 LBS and yes the suspension is very soft, but for bombing around the city, fire roads, country roads, I find it to be an amazing bike and very comfortable

@Dirtpoorhomesteader

Жыл бұрын

I have a 250l parked next to my gsa 1200 Lc and I wouldn’t prefer anything else. I parted ways with a a WR and 500excf to make room for it. I bought it used with suspension already upgraded. Just yesterday I was coming down mountains in the smokies and guys on sport tourers that looked the part could not keep up. It’s a gem in the twisties. I just fits me and my riding style. I can ride it all day. The 500 was a wild animal but not all day comfortable like my 250l. When I want power I get on my gs. It’s nice having bikes at either end of the spectrum that are really good all rounders for their arena of riding.

Really pragmatic review and insights. Thank you Ian.

Ian, you are spot on describing who this bike is for. I’m 56yo, 5’6 165lbs. Own a MG V7 and looking for something to take through the light Pine trails along with some road riding. I’m Not a speed demon, need reliability and lighter weight. Over analyzed most in this class and keep coming back to this one. Going to pull the trigger soon. Thx for the review.

Had Rally3 for more than a year now, most of it being city driving, low speeds tight roads and filtering. Main pros are that its very thin for filtering and moving thru tight gaps in traffic and going thru tight building complexes for a hidden parking spots (this constitutes for light offroading :D ), good gas economy and it looks very unique. All in all, its an economic and agile city bike with good ground clearence for tucked away places to park in. And you look cool.

I have the 250 Rally at now 108.000km - was weighing in over 115kg and am now down to 86kg - Reliability is great as mentioned and I can still run over train crossings at 50kph without bottoming out, when fellow riders on more street oriented rides are nearly thrown off the seat. Not doing US-style offroad, more going slow like Noraly when it gets rough on those rare moments.

@BruceHoult

Жыл бұрын

Over 100k km! Holy cow! I've had my 250 Rally for exactly 3 years, this week, and use it almost every day and am just now coming up to 11,000 km. I'm over 130 kg and rode it on the stock suspension for almost two years before spending US$900 on upgrades (fork spring, and revalved and re-sprung the stock shock) which totally transformed the handling. With the $4200 I paid for it brand new, 0 km, on the road, that's still a cheap motorcycle. Everything else except the tyres is stock. My other bike is a BMW 1100 twin, so I know what torque and acceleration are, but I find the power on the 250 just fine. The speed limit in this country is 100 km/h, so cruising at 110 with a bit left for overtaking is no problem. The fuel economy is outstanding. I don't get much chance to do serious off-road riding. I do a LOT of gravel roads, often poorly maintained -- washboard, potholes, rain ruts. Sometimes a beach -- did 65 km along one. Farm tracks. Paddocks. The excitement is in the places I go, not in trying to get there 10 seconds faster than someone else. One of the best bikes I've ever owned and I've owned a few -- including an XR600 for a decade. A fun beast off-road, a tiring pig on the highway even when I was 30 years younger than now.

@JohannesDalen

9 ай бұрын

Excellent work with the weightloss, happy for you!

@leeinwis

2 ай бұрын

250 rally in the house ! Same amount of miles as you have , Raven Black edition.@@BruceHoult

Your review is spot on. This is how I feel about my KLR650 now that I have more powerful adventure bikes and dual sports. Just don’t have the heart to part ways with her. She’s a good ol girl.

I am a CRF300L Rally owner since 2021. Love this little bike. Does it have limitations, sure. But they are not hard to live with. I weigh 190lbs without my gear on. Yes the suspension is soft. On the street, I love the plushness. Can’t feel bumps or potholes much at all. My other bike is a CBR1000RR so I know what a stiff suspension feels like. I can see the CRF’s suspension being a problem if you plan on riding very aggressively off road. But for me, I’ve been on lots of off road trails and it has worked fine. When I was a kid, I learnt how to ride on a CB125S off road with a completely shot suspension so this is like a Cadillac. 😁 Even if I get it to bottom once in a while (not often) it’s fine. I don’t ride agressive off road. I just enjoy the ride. If it gets really rough, I adjust. Very fine motorcycle. You are right, if you’re looking for top notch performance and jumping and competing, get a $15K bike. If you want the most versatile bike out there, get a CRF. P.S. You ask what you are missing? Why other people are buying this bike? The answer is you’re looking at bikes for the pure adrenaline rush of riding as agressively as possible. Pushing yourself to the limit of your capabilities on a motorcycle off road (I assume off road since I don’t see anything capable of spirited riding on the street in your garage). And I get it, the speed, the power, the handling… it’s all great.!! I know, when I ride my CBR1000RR in the canyons, that’s what I like too. But that’s not why I bought the RALLY. It’s my go the the grocery store bike. It’s my moto camping ⛺️ bike. It’s my hit some logging road bike and take it easy. Bring a chair and go sit by a lake bike. Give it a try. Step away from the razors edge for a minute. You’ll get it.! 😃 Don’t try to make a race bike out of a CRF300L RALLY and you will understand why people buy it. Cheers mate.

Super helpful commentary!! It's worth noting that Itchy Boots' bike has been heavily modified, even with her lower weight

Clear, concise and unvarnished truth - review couldn't be better. Not being an experienced rider or adrenaline junkie I appreciate the reliability, practicality (and aesthetics) of this bike and completely agree that how you use it - individual requirements, are paramount. Don't think there is a unicorn - every bike is a compromise.

Great review! Subbed. It's mind blowing how Honda cheaped out on the suspension. Kawasaki was able to offer way better suspension on their 300 for a similar price point. Looking forward to more reviews!

This has been a great review series. Thanks for being a real "journalist", and not a shill or antagonist. I thought about this bike, and could see it being a good first street bike for a young person. It isn't intimidating, it isn't high powered. It can be legally ridden with a learner's permit. It is tall with an upright seating position to aid in visibility. And it probably won't get stolen, when the key is left in the ignition. 👍

I just put a deposit down on this bike. It’s supposed to be here mid April and I couldn’t be more excited! I have done a lot of research into my choice over the past couple of years. You definitely make some great points and concerns. For me personally though I feel like it will be the best bike for me. I am a new rider. 33 5’7 and 150 pounds a 30 inseam. I have no experience on a motorcycle other than the initial 2 day motorcycle training course I took. For me I feel like the bike is going to expose me to a lot of different things and be a great introduction into the world of dual sport/adventure riding. I am going to try out stock for a bit until I get more experience. I will most likely get a Rally Raid level 1, seat concepts slim seat, an ejk, exhaust. A few protective things as well but hope to keep the bike light weight. I definitely am excited to explore out there. This channel, dork in the road, itchy boots, jake the garden snake, and a few other video bloggers were definitely a big part of why I went with this bike as my first. Thanks for all the great content out there! Appreciate it!

@machupikachu1085

11 ай бұрын

Did you get your bike yet?

@tofuman9526

11 ай бұрын

How’s the bike mate?

@not49p

6 ай бұрын

how 'bout now?

As an experienced street rider but a newer off-road rider, I find it extremely forgiving and usable for solo adventure travel. It's far from perfect, but as you said there actually isn't much else in the category. I wanted reliability, fuel range, long maintenance intervals, something I could pick up easily, wind protection, and something that I could ride all day in mixed conditions and challenge myself off road without getting into too much trouble, and ride a few hundred miles on tarmac to get home. There literally is nothing else. (T7 too heavy/tall/intimidating, 690 too tall/unclear if aftermarket windscreens + lowering etc would leave me with what I wanted, DR650/DRZ400S carbureted and no wind protection, KLR too heavy, etc.)

Great honest series! I started riding at 10 yrs old and raced motocross for 6 years. I've owned all types of bikes from RZ350's to Suzuki Burgman 650 and the last bike before purchasing my 300 Rally was a 2014 Goldwing. I am 61 years old. I notice your camper in the driveway and I too have a camper I love. The 300 rally can fit into the back of the pickup with the camper hooked up. This allows me to explore places even more on a relaxed ride. If I dump it , I can pick it up. The horse power is friendly and won't get me into trouble. It will wheelie if I try hard. I still use this a commuter to work on a major highway here in Canada and I totally agree with your evaluation. It will do it, but you are pushing it and I would like a little more (maybe the KTM 390 or the new 2024 Honda NX500). Loving your videos...thanks

Thanks Ian! Waiting for this one!

I've upgraded almost everything on my 300L. With a yosimura exhaust and dna air filter mine will do 85mph on the roads but if you want to go fast on the roads then use a road bike. Best upgrade for adventuring apart from the suspension is the 14L acerbis fuel tank which doubles the range. It's an amazing bike once you spend a good few grand on upgrades.

Decent review, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents; I'm about 200 lbs and 6'3", but after taking most/all of the rear suspension preload out of the spring I have to say the suspension felt great on AND offroad. I've ridden the CRF300 on a pretty broad range of trails and roads and this minor adjustment to the rear shock may be all most people need to dial this bike in. 👍

@Onceuponatimejotaele

9 ай бұрын

This bike clearly lacks of 10 hp/50cc.

@phantomshtter

6 ай бұрын

I always read your comment from people who so clearly only putter down basic trails. I'm 6 ft and 200 lb and the stock suspension is horrible off-road at any skill level. It's a pogo stick in the rear with uncontrolled rebound causing awful backlash from literally any manuever. The front end's constant diving under mere braking and then same uncontrolled rebound is equally detrimental to terrain progress AND riding skills development. Nobody, especially a beginner, should learn to ride on such a piss poor suspension. The rear is so soft it feels like it's washing out from under you on the road in any leaned turns from a stop. It's so soft I have audibly heard the rear tire hopping off the pavement numerous times and loss of traction for no apparent reason off-road is common. Cranking out the preload does nothing to change any of that.

Good and honest review. The reason we have soooo many different models, brands and styles of motorbikes is to narrow down for each individual what works best for them and what turns them on. I also have multiple bikes and interestingly the one that ALWAYS puts a smile on my face and tickles my fancy is my old Dr 650. It’s tricked out the way I want, meets my needs and checks out all the boxes for riding. Keep up the good work😉

@tarjas

Жыл бұрын

Same. A thoughtfully upgraded DR650 (seat/cogent/tires/larger tank) is the closest thing to the “unicorn” I’ve found. Long live the Bush Pig!

I have this very bike and love it because I am in the crowd you described. I think you got it all write about this bike. I am almost 72 years old and weigh 158 lb and have traveled on and off the Highway and it has worked just fine for me. I traveled 200 miles at a time on a mix of freeway and two lane highways with a full load of camping gear and the bike held a steady speed of 65 mph and got between 65 and70 mpg. I have a new shock and fork spring waiting to be installed because you are exactly correct about the suspension it is way to soft. Thank you Ian for such good and fair reviews on what ever bike you are reviewing.

I really like my 300l for local trips. Have other faster bikes but find I’m always reaching for it because of ease of grabbing out of garage and fuel economy. It’s also great for mounting it to camper. Good review though and agree for most part. I couldn’t imagine selling my 300. thank you

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

@jeffloucks2120

Жыл бұрын

Use my 300l exactly the same way. I ride more overall because of it and even if to run some errands, getting on a bike often is a big win in my book. Heck, I'm jealous of my friends CT125 trail. So easy going...

@Jordan3957

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffloucks2120 haha yeah I’ve been thinking the same about a 125. I think ease of use is often overlooked.

Noraly (itchy Boots) has also extensively modified the suspension on her bike - she now has the full Rally Raid package, plus even some upgrades and tuning on top of that after her trip to Alaska to accomodate the luggage she is carrying. Her bike is now a pretty competent off road adventure bike, but was not so before it was modified.

@stevezatrine7305

Жыл бұрын

I think the problem with that is modifying the suspension to that degree puts the bike in The same price range as a stock CRF 450L. So at that point why wouldn't you just buy one of those and get much better suspension stock along with a lot more power? Then just add a windscreen and you'd have a much more powerful and capable bike at the same price range.

@seayak

Жыл бұрын

@@stevezatrine7305 yup, I agree. I have been thinking of downsizing from my BMW GS650 (actully the 800cc twin version) to get a lighter bike for more casual poking about on county roads and trails, that I can more easily lift in the evernt of a getoff or tipover. But the Rally version is pricey enought to begin with, compared with its non-rally stablemate. Then as you say the price is hard to justify if you then have to start upgrading components. Easier I think to just start with the basic dual purpose 300 as a bike in this displacement category, and then add only the items that you actually need.

@nyedavis922

Жыл бұрын

@@stevezatrine7305 because Honda specify a full engine rebuild at 20k miles. I know the extremely short intervals can be taken with a pinch of salt, but the 450l will undoubtedly require more maintenance than the 300. If you're prepared to do the maintenance necessary to run the 450, why not just buy an EXC500 which is 30kg lighter, more powerful and generally more capable, with the same maintenance interval (and impressive reliability)? The 300 and 450l occupy different purposes in the market and regardless of how you modify them will always express particular strengths and weaknesses. If you're going to ride across Siberia, or the length of Africa, the 300l is undoubtedly the better choice. If your trips vary from overnight to two week runs, and so fun if more important than fuel economy, comfort and reliability, buy the 450l. Just my two cents ✌️

@stevezatrine7305

Жыл бұрын

@@nyedavis922 to me it's very disappointing that a major manufacturer such as Honda would produce a bike with such a soft suspension that literally 95% of all potential buyers would find it inadequate and not usable. This forces their customers to have to spend like two grand on suspension mods to make the bike work properly. If you add two grand to the purchase price are you really getting good value for your money? This makes the customers have the conversation of well if I have to do that then I might as well buy this and if I buy this then I'm on as well buy that. It's really just not excusable that they blew it that bad on the suspension. Sprung for a 100 lb rider? Give me a break. Someone that light is probably not tall enough to then be able to touch the ground on it. So it's literally set up for almost no one.

@nyedavis922

Жыл бұрын

@@stevezatrine7305 hey man I totally agree. A number of modern Honda's I've experienced have had some significant shortcomings. The suspension is inexcusably terrible on the 300. My WR250R has okay suspension from the factory, it's not great and is a little underdamped on the rear, but is serviceable and safe. The stock suspension on my 350EXC-f is brilliant, no complaints about it. Why Honda couldn't just add £500 to the list price and fit decent suspension is beyond me (and ergonomics that suit someone taller than 3'8")

A very honest and fair review of this bike. I own this bike and love it for all the same reasons as you point out. It will NEVER be a fire breather but with the right suspension, it makes a good all rounder as long as you don't need to be on the freeway, (and I avoid that anyway). Thank you for your attention to detail and your honesty. Ride safe!

This video makes me want one... its really high on the list along side the klr650 honestly... just because I love everything about the klr... but this crf looks sooooo unique and frankly sweet! Thank you for the great videos!

Bang on review. 👍👍 BTW, Noraly upgraded her suspension before leaving Alaska. The stock suspension is only good for Slenderman and Ichabod Crane. 🍻

@leeinwis

2 ай бұрын

I'm runnin stock for two years now , with a bad back the squishy suspension is just what I need .

I can agree with you, Ian. I purchased a Rally 250 maybe 2 years ago, and it was my first experience riding in the dirt. After 5 or 6 months, I traded it in on a 2021 Africa Twin. Although I loved the Rally for the looks, purchase price, and ease of maintenance, I started having similar feelings that you described. I didn't have enough to keep up on the Texas roadways, and It was too heavy to ride single track and have a good time. Now I'm a heavy rider, I replaced the front and rear suspension, and I kept the old girl pinned and never had to worry about reliability because it was a Honda, but I knew it was time for something else. I loved my Rally, but now with a KTM 500 dual sport and a GS in the garage, I know without a doubt I will have fun doin the riding I want to do. Great review, Ian, and thanks for creating content for us.

Awesome review. What I expected and what I wanted to hear. My Rally is still on back order, so I appreciate your honest review. At 58, this is all I need, and I am willing to upgrade. I have a Harley if I want to go fast. Thank you.

Thanks for your always great sincere reviews! I think what you are missing is that for many people there is great enjoyment in a machine that is not centered around large heavy profiles with higher performance engines that encourage or thrive on spinning the tire or pulling wheelies. Some (many) riders love the easy going nature of a mildly tuned smaller displacement engine that thrives on slower paced relaxed riding and exploring where the experience is centered more on the exploring than the motorcycle itself or the adrenaline rush it creates. I love my cb500x so much that I sold my hayabusa and big bandits, will be selling my MT09sp and am picking up my CRF 300 Rally in 2 days so now at 63 yrs old I will have two little laid back Hondas.

Enjoy your reviews, even though I’m not (yet?) into hardcore off-roading. Please don’t pander to the snowflakes who jump at every opportunity to be personally offended by your opinions😊🤦‍♂️

I don't disagree with you and your review and what you look for in a bike. However, my needs are quite a bit different. I like to go out and explore. Check out old country roads that may turn into dirt. I pack my camera, drone, rain gear, etc. and take off with no particular plan. My Rally takes me anywhere I need to go and then some. If someone needs to go 85 mph on the freeway, this is NOT the bike for you and I don't think the designers had that in mind. I like ambling along listening to the motor purr, stop and take a few photos, put the drone in the air, stare at the bike for a while, observe nature and let it take me away from it all.

You’re good mate. Such an objective review! I’m impressed. Great content.

You basically came to the same conclusion i did about the 300l rally and why i decided to avoid them. Nice bike but not for me. Unfortunately some people get emotional about this bike for some reason.

You don't see the point? I find it hard to believe that you don't see the point-- It's an ultralight ADV that's simple (a positive to many people) and won't break the bank. That is a HUGE point, and it's a huge niche that the manufacturers still haven't quite understood. The 300 Rally fits into that category, but Honda could do better if they understood the simplicity and utility of the concept. The heavier, complicated and expensive ADV bikes will suffer off-road because they are too heavy and too complicated. The 300 Rally suffers on the freeways because it is underpowered. If Honda could take something like the 450 RL and turn it into a more reliable, smoother-operating, slightly less stressed, ultralight ADV with less bodywork, easier access to the mechanicals (battery access to the 300 Rally is a joke), and longer service intervals, then I think that would be very near to the sweet spot for this burgeoning market. I can take my 300 Rally into places that hardly anyone would take their 1200 GS, but I can still go anywhere that the 1200 GS can go, if a little bit more slowly. That's the point which you're not seeing. And you can buy two 300 Rallys, plus luggage, for the price of one 1200 GS.

Great job as always.

I bought one for my 20YO son, re-sprung it, added tuner and pipe, took an inch out of the seat foam and downsized the front sprocket 1 tooth. I have a Tuareg 660. We ADV rode all over western NC and SC. We had a blast and kept trading off each bike. Here's the thing... it did put a smile on my face by flogging the crap out of it (5000 to 8000rpm) and not doing 80mph... instead maybe 50-60mph max. It is very flickable, surprisingly so, because of the low weight. It has a great sound (with added pipe) and is just a hooligan, especially coming off the 660 for twisties and back-roads (without the risk of too much speed and weight). Also, much easier than the 660 for tighter, slower rutted double-track (which you almost always encounter when exploring), again for the light weight and better ground clearance. It is not fast, and with the extra cash we spent, maybe there were better bikes, but we are having fun with it. It's really a great starter ADV bike to get my young son out there with me and that is why the bike is PRICE-LESS to me. Love your channel Ian! Keep up the excellent work.

Great review Ian. I agree completely. I purchased the CRF450RL to overcome the shortcomings of the 300L. Installed the GET ECU from TacoMoto and it’s an absolute ripper. And even with the cost of the ECU I’m still $2000 less than a new 500 ECX-F plus Honda reliability.

@awatts222

Жыл бұрын

You made a great choice don't get me wrong. But I have to comment on the KTM reliability myth. We have a 2017 husky FE501 with 200hours on it, and it's never needed more than an oil change. Valve check at 100hrs was perfect. So I picked up 2022 500excf, I'm at 100hrs and it's amazing, reliable and doesn't need quartely valve checks . The bike is NOT unreliable and I don't know why people think that. It's actually a tank.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Awesome choice

@jctoth

Жыл бұрын

@@awatts222 Awesome. I’ve ridden the 500 EXC-F and they’re great bikes for sure. Glad it’s working out for you. The engine vibes coming from the KTM were a deal breaker for me.

@awatts222

Жыл бұрын

Definitely get that for sure. Like it's been said, the 500 engine feels like it's a washing machine with dishes in it Hahah but for context I did trade my 300l rally in for it, and it feels that it MAY actually be equally as reliable. Here's hoping. The 450 Honda definitely does give you that Honda reliability peace of mind though. Happy trails!

@j.g.7864

Жыл бұрын

Jerry, how is the 450 holding up to a luggage load? I'm fond of the Husky's because of my 350, but the vibration on the 500 is hard to swallow for any road time.

When mentioning Noraly, why do you say to not user her use case as an example? I feel like she’s shown quite clearly that these bikes are capable of the type of adventure riding that she does. If you’re also a small rider, perfect example. If you’re heavier, still good example, and you know you may have to replace the springs/ suspension. Seems weird to discount her example simply because she’s smaller and liked the bike while you don’t.

@Rossy167

8 ай бұрын

It does seem a bit odd for him to say the bike can’t do a bunch of things that we have video evidence of her doing.

Hi Ian, I am regular viewer of your content and trust me you do an exemplary job. Your review of the Honda CRF 300 was to the point and precise. Not at all bikes are meant for everyone. Itchyboots was a good reference point in your discussion. I watch her videos too and she does share some very good travelling content on her channel. Really appreciate the content of all your videos. Keep Going and a BIG THANK YOU from India !!!

What it all comes down to is what is your Idea of Adventure. Like you you it dose fit my needs . To under powered for traveling to off road locations for me . I really respect your options and look forward to your videos . Thank You

I don’t buy a bike just for reliability. The lack,of power is a worry on the open road. For advanced riders looking for low weight, a modified KTM 500 is the way to go.

I can definitely agree with your points, but I think your biggest limitation is having to stay close to stock. After new tires, suspension, ecu, and exhaust upgrades, I’ve found it’s a completely different bike with more capability and a blast to ride.

@KurtGAndersen

Жыл бұрын

Especially the ECU upgrade will transform the bike. And of course the suspension too…

@BobSeekely

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Travis. Excellent point. Can you share the links to your specific upgrades that you have found most useful?

@DigiMannen

Жыл бұрын

@@KurtGAndersen And it will void the warranty.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Great point!

@XxCrankyMoosexX

Жыл бұрын

Well yeah, swapping out most of those core components will completely change a bike. At that point I’ll just get a more expensive bike where I won’t HAVE to swap out all of those. Modifying is fun but it’s a lot less fun when it’s a requirement.

Thanks for your review, although I haven't ridden the Honda, I too decided that it was too much of a compromise. I eventually decided on the KTM390 Adventure and this bike does put a smile on my face. It has a great chassis and is reasonably powerful given the capacity. Keep up the good work, love your channel.

I appreciate your review, No apologies necessary for stating your perspective

Good stuff as usual. I'm still on a Rally waitlist, despite the fact that a KTM dealer gave me an offer on a brand new 2022 Adv 390 that made it cheaper than the rally. I just didn't want to deal with the iffy quality there and knowing the nearest dealer to me would be a 3 hour drive away. I'll have the Honda guys 10 min away. As a returning geezer who wants something light that can handle back roads, gravel, and moderate double and single track, plus enough range to not have to worry about 150m stretches of boonies, there's not much else to choose from. Not interested in thrills of speed and jumping, so that helps. Everyone says the suspension's awful, but I have also seen much heavier riders use them stock and say "meh, it's OK." I sat on an unmodded 250 rally at a dealership a few weeks ago and it didn't sag more than about 2-3 inches (I go

I have a 2022 300 Rally, a 2020 Africa Twin AS and a 2019 Monkey 125. Each bike used in different situations. Weighting 220 pounds, never bottomed out on the 300 Rally.

@joecamel6835

8 ай бұрын

Bet you bottomed the monkey out lol

Awesome video! Growing up, I wanted a rally/250l. Seriously, I was in middle school dreaming of buying one and watching reviews... At 23 years old, I began seriously shopping bikes and found out how small these bikes are. At 245ish lbs and 6-2, this bike felt like a bicycle when I sat on it. I had to move up to the KLR 650 for my first bike.

Thank you for a warts and all review, so many you tubers and bike magazines are so frightened of upsetting the suppliers that all bikes become so "fantastic" that you cant make an informed choice based on reviews, This is a refreshing change, all the best

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

I was about to buy this bike late last year but when you had that review that showed it had problems on any incline on the freeway, I decided to go for the DRZ400s. I also knew that it would not excite me riding it, AND I'd have to change the suspension. So far, I love the DRZ. It's not broken in yet but has enough power to be fun and exciting. Plus, I'm doing the jd Jet kit mod. I rode my DRZ at 7,500 feet to 2,000 feet and had no problem with it being a carb. The reliability of my DRZ is phenomenal and I feel like it's the most reliable, tough vehicle I have ever owned. A 70 mph wind blew it over and the handlebars didnt even bend.

@1969tonksy

Жыл бұрын

The DRZ is such a great and capable bike for what is a 20+ year old design. It still cuts the mustard and I would have one over the CRF300 all day long.. We haven't been able to buy DRZ400 in the UK since 2008 because of the Euro emissions bullshit and are left with very few around nowadays and most are pretty beat up... Great bike

@CoachSteve4u

Жыл бұрын

@@1969tonksy Yes! I totally agree. It's the best do-it-all motorcycle out there still.

@AceCarleton

6 ай бұрын

The Drz definitly has a higher build quality. The narrow gear box was a pain. I switched from a drz to a wr250r after 57.000km on my drz. For me and my riding i loved the wr250r even more then the Drz

*Kicks bike over* 2 minutes later: "I had a light tip over"

As always, your reviews are honest and to the point. I love them because you separate your personal point of view from the journalistic one. Thank you.

Hi Ian, thanks very much for your in-depth review. I have a CRF300L Rally on order, expected soon. My main bike is a Tiger 900 Rally Pro, which is a great bike, but heavy. I live in the UK and many of our trails are wet & muddy for several months of the year. Having come off the Tiger several times, the last resulting in me fracturing my tibia and scapula, I find the bike too heavy to drop and pick up off-road, but despite that I love it. So I wanted something lighter, for relatively low cost, that is capable of being modified to suit my needs. Having watched the brilliant series of videos by MAD TV I realised that the CRF 300, once modified, is much more capable than an initial test ride would indicate. I agree that lack of power (once the suspension and protection are remedied) is it's nemesis, but there has to be a compromise with any dual-purpose bike, and I'm not intending to wheelie it at every opportunity. Incidentally, I'm 69 and weigh 75Kg (180lb).

When Itchy boots road through the U.S on her Patagonia to Alaska tour she didn’t ride very much Interstate. Most US consumers will eventually ride Interstate and realise quickly where this bike belongs.

@tarjas

Жыл бұрын

I predict there is going to be a lot of disappointed new Rally owners when they figure out how underpowered and heavy this bike is..

this bike is the true concept of RELIABILITY, itchyboots is travelling the world through sand, rivers, and gravel roads, no issues. what a bike ❤

I think that part with "who is this bike for", and the way you said it. Adventure, lightness, what needs you have etc, it's very informative and very good way to see it. Very honest and unique and good. Keep doing that! *thumbs up*. For me, it seems like something I would put on the list of "to have", I loved my 340 lbs Varadero 125 I had as a kid. About same weight and topspeed, this will take me to places that wouldn't though. A big thing also about bikes is insurance (here in Sweden big bikes can be between 3-7k USD per year in insurance), this one is more or less for free.

I first heard of this bike from watching Itchy Boots who I like her practicality very much. Your review was very enlightening and I appreciate it. Thx!

The DR650 is only 22lb heavier has 22 more horsepower and similar dimensions. Can be lowered 20mm by reconfiguring stock suspension (still may need better internals). And you can probably buy one today for half the price of a KTM.

@tarjas

Жыл бұрын

Hear hear! Put that same $2k in upgrades into the bush pig and you have a world class adventure dual sport.

@AceCarleton

6 ай бұрын

the down side to the dr650 is the fuel economy. You would need the giant safari tank to be at the crf300 rally range.... and with the safari tank you have lost your 22lb weight compairason

Ian as always a good honest review. Being a long time rider you know your likes and dislikes. I do think that people getting into the ADV world see Itchy and go wow what a great bike. As you pointed out it is an excellent platform. The platform has its limits, she typically only rides a 100-150 miles a day. I liked your reference as a explorer motorcycle. With Hondas reliability it truly can see the world as she is demonstrating. Imaging if Honda could do a 450 rally that has the service interval as the 300L. Even if it was detuned to improve longevity. That would be something.

@j.g.7864

Жыл бұрын

That is exactly what we need! CRF450Rally! Good rear subframe, at least 3000 miles between oil changes.

@XxCrankyMoosexX

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually what I’m waiting for. I don’t need a speed demon, but I’m a very large person and highway speeds in my commute are 75 minimum. That’s topping this thing out before I add anything to it.

@davidmatthews3093

8 ай бұрын

I suggest you actually watch Itchy Boots. She does some very long days and I for one look at what that bike has been put through an£ the way it handles everything and I like tens of thousands of others their, WOW what a great bike.

As you said, your review is very accurate. At the stage of my life, I'm looking for reliable moto, thank you for your valuable advice.

I'm 58yo, 220lb, average rider at best. Have ridden big bore dirt bikes, sport tourers, GS's etc. This bike is so far up my alley, it isn't funny. Have taken it some very gnarly fire trails (that may or may not have been closed to all traffic) with luggage and standard tyres. Bottomed it out once or twice but not to the point of it affecting the outcomes of the ride. Love that the power is not threatening, I can use it all without it scaring the shit out of me. Yes I will upgrade the tyres and suspension but I'm not in a rush. Love the fuel range, love the low maintenance angle, love how I get everywhere that 99 percent of other bikes get to and it cost me very little. If I was a gun rider thrashing it down single trails and getting stupid air,burying it in deep mud etc, I would certainly be looking for a different bike, but this is probably the best bike I will ever own

Great review. I just bought a 2023 Suzuki DRZ400S. I rejected the Honda for all the reasons you mentioned (I'm a big guy), and the DRZ has a way better power to weight ratio, good stock suspension, and it's fun! (The stock seat, however, was almost certainly designed by Satan)

@tarjas

Жыл бұрын

DRZ400 and DR650 are far far better options for do it all bikes. My DR650 will cruise at 75mph with plenty of passing power up to almost 3 digits.

Great review as always. I think something Honda really needs to improve on 95% of their bikes is character (both design and engine). Often their bikes are refined to the point of being boring. I had 2 Africa Twins, and those were the exception (more so with an aftermarket exhaust), they were torquy, sounded great, pure hooligan bikes. Most other hondas I've ever tried, were so smooth, they felt like electric bikes (without the EV torque).

@StoltHD

Жыл бұрын

Did you ever try the NS400R? nothing boring about that little 2-stroke... and not what I call "smooth" either... 🤣🤣🤣

@_Makanko_

Жыл бұрын

@@StoltHD Do they still make those? I know they don't but let's keep it about the models Honda is currently making, which I guess was the point OP is making 😆

@StoltHD

Жыл бұрын

@@_Makanko_ - I responded to your statement; "Most other hondas I've ever tried, were so smooth", not the topic of the video. Just wondered if you actually had tried some of Hondas "real" bikes... Nothing "smooth" or boring about the CRF450L either... Just saying that Honda have some "not so boring bikes", even though I wished they could release a new street legal XL600R/XR650R or a fuel injection XR650/NX650

@billwiley7216

Жыл бұрын

One of the most fun Honda's I ever had was a XR650R which had a DOT lighting kit added and was plated for street use. That was not a boring Honda at all but loads of fun both on the street and the trail, that was the definition of a Hooligan bike!

@StoltHD

Жыл бұрын

@@billwiley7216 - yeh, I wrote wrong, it was the XR I ment... I never got the chance of trying it (not many of them in Norway), but I really want to get my hand on one... or one of the early Transalps...

Once again a great honest useful review. Well done

thanks for all the convertions, wish more people did that

PS. The main point of this bike is not what it is but what you can do with it: explore on/off-road with ease as often as you want, and peace of mind

@WheatMillington

Жыл бұрын

But this bike doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are plenty of bikes that do all the same things, in the same price bracket, better. The anemic engine is a joke, and the suspension requires immediate investment because it's basically useless.

@jaimemetcher388

Жыл бұрын

@@WheatMillington What bikes? Everything I think of has some disadvantage I'm not willing to live with. Heavier, or less reliable, or high maintenance, or worse on fuel consumption, or less comfortable on the road, or (blasphemy!) too much power. The CRF has clear disadvantages too, but no showstoppers for me personally. Pretty much every other bike has at least one showstopper.