May blessing and merit be upon you reverend Sir. Thank you.

The Buddha said “Oh, Bhikshu, every moment you are born, decay, and die.” Every moment the illusion of the separate self is reincarnated.

@evoo6

2 жыл бұрын

this is good one. thanks for sharing :)

@waldwassermann

2 жыл бұрын

Yes; that sounds more correct.

@zahiromare

Жыл бұрын

We need non literal interpretation here!

@jimlyon7276

Жыл бұрын

@ stephen downey - REINCARNATION - From a modern scientific viewpoint billions of our cells change every day ! With regards to our complete body that takes 7-10 years to change !

@waldwassermann

Жыл бұрын

Most Excellent.

Great!!! bhante ji 🙏🏻💙

Thank you Venerable Khenpo Ngawang!--I will sit with this explanation

Isn't the hope that we continue in some form after our body dies rooted in ego? It seems that when people have a truly spiritual experience they are not conscious of a "self", but of a greater existence, a oneness of all. We are all part of this amazing Life. We are like waves on the ocean. Each wave eventually breaks on the shore and disappears, but the ocean remains. The key, it seems to me, is to identify with and revere Life, rather than oneself.

@mbaker9861

Жыл бұрын

My understanding, that's buddhist's ultimate goal to attain liberation...from illusion of "self".

Very great! Thank you.

Thank you Sir.

There is no time. All is happening now. No coming, no going...there is no one to come nor nowhere to go! Its all an illusion. Every millisecond is a new "big bang" 😍❤🙏

@ozgursenturk11-11

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 there is no others! And it's not "my reality" it's truth🙏

@ozgursenturk11-11

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 I have experienced it by myself and I found out that whoever experienced it says the same truth because there is only one truth so I don't believe it I know it🙏

@ozgursenturk11-11

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 I have been living in the present/eternal now for over fourty two years? Is there a any other "time" that we can exist other than present?

@ozgursenturk11-11

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 I was never born and will never die! I'm not my self conciousness! I'm an eternal being experiencing life in this body at this moment of eternity. I AM undefinable, unborn, indestructible... whatever "you" say about "me" it's not me! I'm beyond the mind, body and consciousness. I'm in everything but nothing is me! I'm everywhere but can't be found anywhere🙏😍

@ozgursenturk11-11

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 I wrote all the books ever been written👍

Wave on the ocean, even when it hits the shore it's still part of the same ocean. Nothing ever changed what was real. Only concepts change.

@MikeTooleK9S

2 жыл бұрын

basically child murder

@mcpucho

2 жыл бұрын

Anthropocentric POV. Change is the only constant and is completely independent of human consciousness.

@BlackSkyZ2

Жыл бұрын

@@Enoch9500bc “truth” is a path-less land

@justinrozario2003

Жыл бұрын

Literally Advaita Vedanta of hinduism

@parmar__12

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackSkyZ2 truth is all there is There is no way to truth

Consciousness in Sanskrit is vijñāna. It means literally in two parts (vi) knowing (jñāna) or you could even say dichotomous knowing. Always beings are divided, that is, perceiver and perceiving. Bodhi transcends perceiver and perceiving therefore it transcends consciousness and rebirth. When a man and a woman cohabitate and the woman conceives there are three elements: the male chromosome, the female chromosome, and consciousness. Consciousness-to-be-reborn is like a radio signal that is picked up by the new DNA which contains a fractal antenna. Your a human body is like an avatar in a video game it is not the player but a simulacrum of the player.

@wordscapes5690

Жыл бұрын

Where did you get this information? Sounds very thumb-sucked to me. Sorry to be offensive.

@yoeyyoey8937

6 ай бұрын

So there is discrete consciousness but you are not that?

@Xanaduum

4 ай бұрын

Don't know where you got the second half of that.

Awesome!

Thank you 🙏

Thank you.

Excellent. Short and to the point. In the Abidharma texts, it is mentioned the Alaya or Eighth Consciousness as the Store Consciousness, much like the storage of a computer drive whereby under certain conditions like when we input a specific keystroke, a part of the computer drive or data is accessed and so in the next life certain parts of the Alaya Consciousness will ripen when meet with conditions

Thank you Bhanteji, yes it's mind only which is capable of traveling from one life to another because it is non physical and illusory which is created in us for temperory protective measures of self, but because of delusion we think it is real. We hold on to the matters of mind, thereby pushing it to our next existence.❤❤❤ ❤..

And in my Zen school we talk about Amala Vijnana or Pure consciousness sometimes called “Clear Light” that goes on a very long time but is not impermanent because nothing is. It can just conceptually seem impermanent due to how long it is considered to go on for.

@KevinSolway

3 ай бұрын

Such a consciousness can also seem to go on for a very long time, but in reality it can only last for a second.

Great informative video thanks 👍

thank you! that is all i can say

My thoughts exactly

Rebirth: The inner wheel we endlessly peddle as we move from one desire, one hate, one grief ..one thaught.etc etc etc... to the next. Dependent Origination it's called, and it's what MY Buddha meant by "rebirth." We have many thousands of daily rebirths" that guarantee a powerful freedom.

@guitarvorous

2 жыл бұрын

What? English please

@johnhw6068

2 жыл бұрын

@@guitarvorous ???? Perhaps you should think as you read...or learn to read English

@guitarvorous

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhw6068 people will believe anything as long as it gives them peace of mind. Regardless of being true or not. You cant proof what was before life and after death so you can go believe anything. People are so full of shit. From oblivion we come to oblivion we go, apparantly.

@johnhw6068

2 жыл бұрын

​@@guitarvorous You cant proof what was before life and after death so you can go believe anything.?? Without evidence, I'm unable to believe anything. I admire Buddhism because it's a PHILOSOPHY/PSYCHOLOGY that doesn't demand faith.

@stewbeef8808

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhw6068 This is not a very compassionate response.

Wonderful to see Jorden-la!!! Some friends and I were talking about this very topic today, and then this showed up on my feed this evening. Thank you so much!

@masheldon

2 жыл бұрын

​@Pine Joi I'll answer in reverse order: 1) "Buddhism is nonsense" either says you are frustrated in your learning or that you are not really interested in Buddhism. If you are not interested, then it's ok. Hopefully you find something that is helpful to you. If you have given Buddhism a legitimate shot and don't find it useful, then it is better to ignore it and find something that helps you. The Dalai Lama says essentially this: tay in your family's tradition, and take what, if anything, is valuable from Buddhism. I will note that we know that being more aware of your mind and mental processes can bring better mental health (something modern social and neural psychology has shown rather definitively). If you would like to learn more but find various on-line videos less helpful, then you might try other resources. It can be hard jumping in, because there is so much to learn and so many often conflicting "introductions." I don't know that I have any great recommendations, though there is a nice little book called "What the Buddha Taught" that I read many years ago. The Dalai Lama's "Beyond Religion" is a non-religious way in to ethics, where he takes what he feels is universal from Buddhist tradition. I enjoy Bob Thurman's podcasts, but I don't know that those are so good for everyone --- a class with him could be very good, though. Perhaps a class or meeting a couple teachers 1-on-1 would help answer your questions. 2) I do learn from these videos! I had the privilege of learning from Jorden-la when he and I were in graduate school (I in Computer Science at MIT, he in religion at Harvard) which is part of the joy of seeing him here so many years later. I enjoy these little snippets and find a little to take away from each one. However, I think it helps to have some prior exposure. I have a little, though I'm no expert. The Buddha definitely taught that there is no "ultimate you" independent of other things and other causes (the so-called "no-self" or sometimes "no-soul" doctrine, _anatma_ in Sanskrit): You are ultimately a relative being, but thinking otherwise is deeply ingrained and causes you to suffer. This does NOT mean you aren't "real" or that you don't exist: you just don't have a fixed, independent, uncaused "you"-ness. You are definitely real, just not in the way most of us think. He also accepted re-incarnation, as pretty much everyone did at that time and place. In fact, part of his enlightenment process involved recalling all his previous lives, and the earliest Buddhist sculptures show stories from these previous lives. Scholarly people have been trying to put these ideas together for well over 2,500 years! I had no expectation that a 5 1/2 minute video would provide a definitive answer, and the explanation here is a take on explanations I have heard before. I liked hearing what he had to say, though --- it supports a certain point of view about re-incarnation as a "temporal-causal continuum" of some process. I'll try to offer some thoughts, from an amateur. If you think this is all a big crock, then please ignore me and move on. It's easy to see that our living in the world has effects, including effects on others. After your (current) life ends, the effects of your actions here (and the effects of the effects of the effects,...) will continue. Forever. You will never not have been here, so what you did will live on many forms. Forever. It therefore is reasonable to take a long (even infinite) view of the repercussions of how you act and what you do now. For example, being kind to one person may help their mood, and may in turn ease the lives of those who later interact with the person you were kind to. You don't need to debate the existence or nature of a soul to get that. If you can imagine that some notion of "you," which is what this video was about, might possibly continue after death, then it makes those future effects seem more real. For example, if you take care of the environment, then a future you, if there is such a thing, will benefit; if you don't, the future you, if any, will pay the price. So, even if you don't believe in any kind of reincarnation, it can be a thinking "what-if" tool in your big decisions: "If I do X, how would I feel if a I myself in some other form had to live with the result?" If I pour some heating oil in my back yard, it may hurt my children, my neighbors, the animals that come through and potentially their children, etc. If I were reborn here as an animal or person, it may hurt me, too. Even if you don't believe in reincarnation, it's a way to help you take the consequences of your actions more seriously. (Just as psychologists found that showing people images of themselves modified to look older helped people identify with their future selves when making health decisions.) Again, I'm an amateur and there is no need to listen to me. Since you watched the video and seem frustrated, I thought I would offer a couple thoughts. I will also say from personal experience that Ngawang Jorden is a kind and dedicated teacher as well as an extremely knowledgeable, deep thinking person. I have nothing but respect and affection for him.

@bladvagsrgyallo2053

2 жыл бұрын

@@masheldon well put, it's amazing to see people from the west discuss core buddhism like this, i come from an older generation where i saw a weird fascination of westerners in buddhism when they knew very little of it and were only interested because of it's magical stories, but these days people from the west have a better understanding of the dharma than most of tibetan stock. 🙏🏼 May you become a buddha for the benefit of all beings 🙏🏼

@bladvagsrgyallo2053

2 жыл бұрын

@Pine Joi if you were truely curious, you'd put more effort in finding your answers. ☺️

@masheldon

2 жыл бұрын

@@bladvagsrgyallo2053 Thank you so much! It means a lot if you think I got any of this right. Please correct me when I get things wrong! I'm trying to learn. Buddhism offers so much to the world, and the great thinkers in these traditions are still too unknown in the west. The huge store of profound and useful information and techniques that have been preserved and expanded in Tibet is truly overwhelming. But, if I can get a little here and little there, I hope I can put it to use and help others. It is challenging for a westerner, but the situation is much better now than 40 or 50 years ago. More Buddhist teachers have learned English and other European languages and many have spent time in the west. Many dedicated westerners are only now brining back the understanding from their decades of study. I'm thinking of Robert Thurman, Pema Chodron, Matthieu Ricard. There are a lot of books, and His Holiness the Dalai Lama has a miraculous ability to distill things for everyone and also give profound insights into the most complex material. The secular success of mindfulness-based stress reduction benefits so many and also sometimes draws people into the source of that knowledge. I think the Dalai Lama's efforts to create a non-religious curriculum in secular ethics to teach children how to manage their own hearts and minds is desperately needed today. Again, thank you so much, and I hope that you, too, will soon be a buddha! 🙏🙏

@bladvagsrgyallo2053

2 жыл бұрын

@@masheldon i remember prof thurman when he visited Ladakh for the Kalachakra empowerments, a very knowledgeable and wise man, a very good practitioner. I whole heartedly agree with you, the grounds for developement of dharma is strong in the west now as prophesied by the lotus born master.

It’s because. There is a soul. That’s It.

In other words, if my understanding is correct, as long as one sees ones selves as an unique and a separate individual one keeps coming back. That would probably be the discriminating mind. Karma has a lot to do with that. Through meditation, and introspection over countless lifetimes that vision of one's self will dissolve. Kind of like an iceberg in the ocean. As Buddha implied in the Diamond Sutra, we all get there in the end.

@thenowchurch6419

2 жыл бұрын

I believe one can still see one's self as unique but not ultimately separate. Variety is the spice of Experience.

@Enoch9500bc

2 жыл бұрын

It's all an illusion. It's a concept. Who sees the one seeing? That one is already free. :)

@xirogs4234

2 жыл бұрын

The illusion is thinking we actually ever left O.O because where exactly are we to begin with?

@gra6649

2 жыл бұрын

@@xirogs4234 0.0 is a concept. And this to is a concept. One has to not look beyond, one must look before. Before what? Before anything that can be conceived of by mind.

@bedokgentler

2 жыл бұрын

One keeps coming back not just because one sees oneself as a self, but one comes back cos based on the self, one has desires, clinging, attachment ... setting the wheels of Dependent Origination countless times each day

Mind is the karma container until the seeds it holds are burned in the fire of infinity. What is left is truth.

So the soul does continue on. Thanks for the clarification

Cannot believe you discard atman but believe something continues

@rahul45897

11 ай бұрын

You have zero understanding of atman

@harshagrawal2851

11 ай бұрын

Desire, habits and fear continues . Atman or brahman is only one, different body doesn't contain different Atman.

@rahul45897

10 ай бұрын

@@harshagrawal2851 you are mistaking atman with paramatman

@harshagrawal2851

10 ай бұрын

@@rahul45897 According to the theories given by realised beings that's what liberation is , when you got to know your true nature that you are brahman or paramatma, you get liberation from Maya(illusion) or dwaita (duality). If you say atma and paramatma is different then it's dwaita or maya .

@Enlightenedlikebuddha

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@harshagrawal2851Buddha did believe in a soul which is not permanent and not mine or an individual soul. Otherwise we would get too attached to our personal soul and would try to preserve it at any cost. But he said Atma or soul is more like a process or continuation of Chetnas or consciousness. But when you achieve Nirvana that process of soul or consciousness transforms. So when we are reborn a similar atma or consciousness is born but not the exact one like before. It’s like the flame of candle is not continuous but a series of wax drops but not exactly of the identical type but similar. Listen to Dr Sinha’s explanation.

The eternal what some call God was alone or one and desired to be many..... in order to enjoy the delight of self discovery as God ascended back to itself through the successive stages of evolution.

@lostsoul1342

Жыл бұрын

This makes more sense. Can you speak more on this?

@lostsoul1342

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 Yeah, you have all the answers Mr. Master keeper of all secrets and knowledge.

@yuewenb

Жыл бұрын

@@lostsoul1342 Hi Bobby. More important than opinions or philosophy is direct perception. When most look at things, they look with there egoic mind identity made up of all your experiences of this life time, a few have access to other lifetimes. All the pains and pleasures. But since they have not experienced everything, their knowledge will not be whole. The egoic mind categorizes, judges, brings in duality, causes our suffering and separates us from each other, God and direct perception. When you react with let's say anger, lust or whatever, that is your egoic mind. But in reality, we are not this body or egoic mind, just connected with them for this life. To realize your true self or spiritual nature is the exact reverse process of creation. That's were meditation comes in. Your spiritual self is supposed to be in charge working thru your mind body, not the ego running it most of the time. To understand this better, I will copy what I just responded to someone. "We all want to be happy. If you get attached to anything that changes, you invite suffering unto yourself. What in the external world, including egoic mind identity does not change!? Thats the beauty of detachment you spoke about, and not relying on externals for happiness. You see the dead end of such a thing, for what it is. The egoic mind is what categorizes, judges, brings in duality, causes our suffering and separates us not only from each other, God within and direct perception. The ego cannot control the ego, but it can be observed thru the higher non dual self. Like observing something for the 1st time, so no judgements or experience, so no time. How I one day realized this. I found myself in one of my greatest depressions of my life, but being a meditator and often focusing on my 3rd eye and or 7th charkra, I found that part of me was just observing this without emotion, and I realized that it was my judgements and comparisons of my life now (death in family, health problem, and money) to what it was in happier times that was causing my depression! That realization along with knowing it was not helping the situation caused my depression to instantly leave, replaced with peace. I thanked God for this realization and instantly I felt great love and bliss in my heart area and beyond which then shot up to the top of my head and beyond. I also noticed my mind has been a lot more silent since then. It's the space in between thoughts many artists get inspiration or others intuition. We are here to awaken from our illusion of separateness." Sorry I did not answer what you wanted, but I felt this more important for now.

@lostsoul1342

Жыл бұрын

@@yuewenb Direct perception! Inner gnosis! Yes. Namaste!

@lostsoul1342

Жыл бұрын

@@yuewenb thank you for taking time to respond. Your words are very true. Many will never come to these realizations. Always look within. I'm glad that you are able to find peace inside of you for me become too late. I am too far into the darkness.

Energy is neither created nor destroyed but transforms. Basic physics. The “self” is but a thought; the conscious energy that animated our body (that which allowed for our brain to think the thought “self”) continues on.

🙏🙏🙏❤️

Control of rebirth will be a wonderful thing. Rebirth to a good-looking, smart, healthy, and long-living person. Then rebirth to animal. Then rebirth to anything free to choose. What an adventure and exploration. I predict in the near future Mind Uploading will be the controlled rebirth. No born, no death, just keep rebirthing to different sentient beings of different experiences.

His holiness is equating mind with consciousness

@bigfootvalley4480

2 жыл бұрын

I guess in buddhism consciousness is an aspect of the mind but in advaita vedanta (hinduism) consciousness which is brahman is different from the mind.

@Yogi_The_Bitter_Truth_2408

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigfootvalley4480 mind(jiva) is personality/ego which appears in pure nondual consciousness which is allpervasive one consciousness.

@Yogi_The_Bitter_Truth_2408

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 you need to study about nonduality or advaita vedant first to judge what i have said. you cant judge a language if you don't know how to read it.

@Yogi_The_Bitter_Truth_2408

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 I am talking about Advaita Vedanta and it is known as a siddhant which means its hypothetically proven theory. "After the conversations about Indian philosophy, some of the ideas of quantum physics that had seem so crazy suddenly made much more sense" -- Wesner Heisenberg. "I go into the Upanishads to ask question" -- Niels Bhor.

In Buddhism is in not a “hope” that mind consciousness continues but I law of nature. Like a river.

Zen master Taisen Deshimaru used to say the what continues is the effect of our karma.

❤️

Thank you for your elucidation. It seems to me that alayavijnana is quite similar to the collective unconscious Jung speaks about. Since one cannot speak of the consciousness of anatta (individual being) only the collective or the alaya keeps rolling from generation to generation. Does this make sense?

@anonymousanonymous2319

10 ай бұрын

What's the difference between alayavijnana and atman?

I think that the self in Advaita Vedanta for example is ultimately the same that no self in Budddhism

I don't know why people here are so hateful commenting on this video. What this monk has said is correct from the point of Buddhist philosophy if you're familiar with it. I believe this channel is for those who are genuinely studying Buddhism, not those who come here to spit condescending speech. Dear admin, please delete all the irrelevant and hate comments. With Metta 🙏

@chasestefanson8501

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 I clearly didn't say all opposing comments here are hateful, please reread my comment. It's freedom of speech to speak whatever you want, but it is also the right for the content owner to decide what speeches are allowed in their platform

I have seen and now I know

@thomasmcardle3271

2 жыл бұрын

Truth is no one knows

I had difficulty understanding the last part of the speech where he said some is transformed into a type of Buddha Wisdom. It sounded like he said Miller Light Wisdom.

I never dream of the past, I dream only of the future. For the past is gone. But,One can never even exist, if there wasn't anyone before them.

@1Infeqaul1

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 Because you are so grounded, you wouldn't even know what any reality is. present or future. You think you are an animal? If the future has no reality, then what are you experienceing right now? Are you not the future of your Grand parents? You must be very young.

0:00 It is the continuation of the mind-stream. 'Self' is merely the perception which separates from 'other'.

@filsdejeannoir1776

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 Karma propels uncontrolled 'rebirth' in Samsara. 'Reincarnation' is NOT 'rebirth'. 'Reincarnation' is the DELIBERATE taking of rebirth by highly realized beings. This deliberate 'reincarnation' is not propelled by karma, but 'voluntary'. So yes the 'involutary' propulsion can be 'turned off'.

@filsdejeannoir1776

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 You don't 'step out' of the mindstream to cross the ocean of Samsara. You cross it in a current lifetime. Once you've crossed it, you are no longer bound to uncontrolled 'rebirth'. You now 'reincarnate' VOLUNTARILY to continue your work. Then when your work is finished, no more incarnations.

How does anyone know what happens after death?

how do we keep coming up with this rebirth story. do we know of anyone whoo was actually reborn

When you wake up the next day there is still the mind in its absolute purity which reflects all these memories and appearances, and there is still the ignorance which does not recognize this pure mind but thinks of the memories and thoughts as coming from a real absolute self. It is the same when this body dies, this pure buddha-nature mind carries its ignorance of itself along and this is what propels the mind into its next life. When this mind has finally recognized its own nature completely then it becomes a buddha, and then it no longer is propelled into another life, then it can choose to be born in a body anywhere in the universe in order to lead other minds to liberation from this ignorance. Happy first day of Saga Dawa: the birth, enlightenment, and passing of the Shakyamuni Buddha! May we all become buddhas by realizing our own buddha-nature.

@silentrotation6541

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 When your mind finally wakes up it sees that there is nothing to be seen. That is purity.

@silentrotation6541

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 Seeing that the solid self-image is a construction made out of parts of the mind, seeing this not as mere intellectual knowing but as actual experience. Seeing the mind as empty clear appearances without a separate observer and an observed. That leads to partial waking up.

@jpope125

Жыл бұрын

​@@heinmolenaar6750 practice!

@silentrotation6541

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 That's an interesting and good observation.

Please translate your very important message in geman… my english ist too small!

I think it would be wise and according to Buddhism to stop projecting to what we cannot possibly know... Nobody alive knows for sure

@DanielMByron

2 жыл бұрын

This is the philosophical tradition of Mahayana Buddhism, it has its own methods of pramana/logic to ascertain what is knowable.

@masonart4950

Жыл бұрын

I believe this knowledge comes from Near death experiences and psychedelics. Ego deaths. You're able to tune into your true nature far more easily when your materialist story is put to sleep.

@lentilbonanza4163

Жыл бұрын

We can gleam things from at least knowing what the mind is in relation to the body. We can't know everything about other lives but the answer to "what is the mind" might give us a ballpark.

@seamlessyorkshiredales

Жыл бұрын

How can you speak for everyone?

@sebee555

Жыл бұрын

Pretty presumptuous of you haha. Then bother same logic should be the same for all religious traditions right?

Another way to say it is that the citta, with its 'defilements', is what continues on. No? Ty.

What continues to exist, and reencarnates, is the unit of awareness which is aware to be aware. The identity which is the individual. Which is = YOU. It carries with it the all the memories which is what the mind is composed of, hence, the mind. Including somatics, which sometimes manifest as pain -for exa.mple- or some other "abnormal condition" with "no knowable source"

@bladvagsrgyallo2053

2 жыл бұрын

You is relative, no you 😀

@DanielMByron

2 жыл бұрын

This presentation doesn’t resist analysis, so would be seen as empty on the ultimate. Also, amongst the dhatu’s there is no “you” within that bundle. There may be a mind, and if you’re suggesting the mind (or the reflexive awareness you’ve suggested) is the you/self, then you’d also have to find out how that can be so if the mind is subject to impermanence as well. A lot of Buddhists would agree with you on this, but that you’d need to qualify it as impermanent and empty of self

@johnnymentero6313

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielMByron What you're talking about, is speculation, personal considerations, and beliefs. What I'm talking about is first hand knowledge. Which is first hand experience in leaving the body. You can (if you want) refer to ndes, or similar of which there are countless testimonies all over the world. And I clearly stated the difference between the mind, and the self. And there's no such a thing as "impermanence of the mind" The being carries it's memories (the "storage unit" of those memories is what we call "the mind) with it from life to life. And it can access it by itself, or with help.

@DanielMByron

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnymentero6313 great to hear about first hand experience. Think you might be mistaking me a little: most Buddhists would agree that the mind dhatu, and the storehouse consciousness (alayavijnana) is what you’re speaking of: the subtle level of mind that can be experienced at death, and at certain levels of practice. Buddhists, including those accomplished ones with similar experiences to what you’re saying just say the word “self” isn’t accurate. If in the moment of the NDE you could introspect to find the original source or essence of the mind, you would (with the right conditions) recognise that is empty of nature, yet still appears. Since there’s no essence, there’s no core/self to it, you’re free of grasping towards it which would keep you bound

@johnnymentero6313

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielMByron I consider that speculation, and mental gymnastics. In my experience, the mind is the storage place of memories, which includes thoughts, thought processing, understanding, comprehension, learnings, and so on. As you may realize, this includes the processing and understanding of the subject at hand. NONE of this is the "self" the self is what carries all of that in, or as "a tools box" it uses to interact in different levels with the physical Universe. The "self" is capable of *experiencing" and *causing* and it goes about it by *using all the tools* it has in its mind consciously, and/or unconsciously.

The basic teachings of Sanatana Dharma ("Hinduismus") is that the spirit soul (aka consciousness) is different from the body. The body is gross material energy and the mind, the ego and the intelligence are made from subtle material energy. But either are not us. We falsely misidentify with these things. We are spirit souls. Getting free from this entangling material energy and misidentification means liberation. Unfortunately we are so engrossed in material energy in this world that we don't even know our true self (spirit). That's why there is racism, sexism, etc. People don't know that they are spirit souls. They think they are the body and the mind. If you would like clear information without speculation please read Srila Prabhupada's books. It changed my life and it will probably change yours also :) Bless you all xoxo

@TheGreeny38

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this explanation. Loving kindness to you.

@TonyTony-je8tc

2 жыл бұрын

Is it in English ?

@t0xcn253

2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyTony-je8tc yes, most of Prabhupada's works are available in English, as the founder of ISKCON he spent much of his life in the West and specifically in America spreading the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita and of Sri Caitanya in particular. I would recommend finding any translation of the Gita you can and reading that first, since Prabhupada in his translation adds a great deal of explanatory material that might be difficult or distracting for your initial reading of the text. Best of luck my friend.

@t0xcn253

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 Love is Krishna, Krishna is Shiva, Shiva is nothing.

The 5 aggregates, ego, body, intellect and the mind should not be confused with the true self.

The early teachings of the Buddha were grounded in cause and effect. That's what karma/Vipakka is. Rebirth beyond life-spans isn't logical unless there is a cause and effect connection, without a cause and effect connection there is no ehipassiko, and therefore you can't see it and you can't prove it. Rebirth from one-moment to the next within one's lifetime in a kind of ship of Theseus fashion is directly experienceable. Consciousness goes on after your death in a very obvious way, it goes on in those that are still living. Like steam or flames go on somewhere in the world, after one instance of it goes out. One instance of steam/fire is actually made of many smaller instances and operations, so that's not so different from when it occurs in a different location. The same is rather similar with consciousness.

Hindu here but I love Buddhism ❤️

@Aldarinn

Жыл бұрын

Labels don't matter, but I may convert from Hinduism to Buddhism.

@anonymousanonymous2319

Жыл бұрын

@@Aldarinn it's the same thing tbh

@chathurakapuge

4 ай бұрын

​@@anonymousanonymous2319No,its core principles different & ultimate target is not the same.

@anonymousanonymous2319

4 ай бұрын

@@chathurakapuge Moksha/Nirvana, Brahman/Sunyata, Dukka, Karma, Dharma ETC.

It is the store house consciousnesses or the sense impressions that are reborn. One could say it is the prior life experiences along with conditioning, it is that that is reborn.

I'm a lifelong Buddhist. If there is one aspect of the teachings that have confused me so much, it is the idea of non-self. Anyway, I saw a video recently by Ajahn Somano who was asked the question where/what is the self? He replied that he'd been searching for a self to actually find out if there was one, and commenting, "Because there was never anybody here in the first place!"

@farmerjohn6526

Жыл бұрын

Nah, the self or identity is constantly changing there fore there is no (permanent) self. Like the river, never being the same river. There is no reincarnation either, so don't worry about that either.

@OspreyFlyer

Жыл бұрын

I've mostly come to that conclusion at this last stage of my life. What's left is programming from birth. People are running on automatic.

@wordscapes5690

Жыл бұрын

@@farmerjohn6526 How can you just declare that there is no reincarnation. You do not know - and neither do I.

@farmerjohn6526

Жыл бұрын

@@wordscapes5690 I suppose I am being arrogant to make such a claim. I don't see any point in the idea of Reincarnation, and I don't see any real evidence to support it. I think it gives people either fear or hope for their future life, something similar to Christian hope of a good after life, or fear of the bad after life. Both do not contribute to a person in the here and now, dealing with their need for happiness and living correctly today. The other down side is when folks come along and claim to be the reincarnated Buddha or whatever they claim. There is not way to prove it or not as you say.

@wordscapes5690

Жыл бұрын

@@farmerjohn6526 There is a very strict process to the reincarnation selection of bodhisattvas. People do not just declare themselves buddhas. Besides, that is only one branch of Buddhism. It is not necessary to believe in reincarnation to practice Buddhist meditation. However, once you practice it correctly, you very often (but certainly not always) begin to reach certain conclusions from your experiences while meditating. If you are practicing meditation to "escape" reincarnation or to "gain" a better birth, there is simply no way you will achieve either of those goals, as they involve desire and "clutching" - so to suggest that people behave well, or believe in reincarnation in order to get a better birth, is a contradiction.

To answer the question: It is a stream of consciousness that is reborn. That stream does have a temporary illusion of self. It is a temporary phenomenon. It does not have a real self, only an illusion, a temporary one, and a very short one, for that matter. It is like physical life, but one level higher, one level of many. But as physical life, it also ends and transcends into the next level. It all ends at the last level. Ultimately, there is only Brahman, and the cycle of night and day. Brahman does not have a self as such, although it might be considered to be the one and only self, but it does not have any notion of self, although it does create beings out of itself, which do have a notion of self.

If you achieve liberation how would that work? Wouldn’t you still be reborn since all is one? How can awareness be liberated and reborn at the same time?

@FragranceView

2 жыл бұрын

You can only be re born if you have a mind, it's the mind that is born again. A Jnani who has become liberated has no mind left, so can not take another birth. The entire universe, including heavens and hells are all illusion / dream like. When you wake up from the dream, you realise nothing ever existed, you were and always will be that formless infinite deathless Self. The illusion of form is ignorance in Maya.

@SithSolomon

Жыл бұрын

@@FragranceView The mind is not the consciousness in itself.

" The Precious Human Birth is extremely rare, while Hell beings for instance, are said to be numerous as Atoms, Yidaks as the sands of the Ganges, Animals as snowflakes, and Gods of the higher realms as stars in the night sky, those having the Precious Human birth are said to be as rare as daytime stars." -- From the book : Kalu Rinpoche " The Dharma"

@richevandroo5041

2 жыл бұрын

Read this... Read it again and took it in... Wow... This really like, wow. So does this quote mean, that human birth (where we all are now) is an even higher form of re-birth than gods / heaven etc? Where do we go from a human life if it is at the top? Or am i confused? Thank you.

@simbot4123

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment is woo-woo talk. Do you also believe in Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny and Unicorns?

@richevandroo5041

2 жыл бұрын

@@simbot4123 if this was to me, no i dont. However i certainly believe in "other things" and for a few years have taken a real interest in what happens after death. Strange comment to make really haha. As in, why on earth did you click on / watch this video when you clearly find it a load of rubbish? KZread is a very strange place!

@bladvagsrgyallo2053

2 жыл бұрын

@@richevandroo5041 please read kunzang lama-i zjal lung ( words of my perfect teacher is the english translation) human life is indeed valued very highly, thats why it is considered non-virtuous to commit s elf harm. Gods abide in blissfullness so they feel no need to practice the dharma untill it's too late. Rest of the beings are in too much suffering and obscurations to comprehend the dharma, humans have the right conditions to practice the dharma if one is fortunate to come accross it, hence the human form is considered supreme in the sense that we have the karmic conditions to be able to practice the path of the supreme buddha sakyamuni. 🙏🏼

@bladvagsrgyallo2053

2 жыл бұрын

@@simbot4123 mahayana buddhism is for the altruist not so much for cynics. There are inferential reasoning for all of this, people would believe in UFOs then they'd refute when someone actually says it out loud just for argument's sake while knowing the infinite possibilities that space holds. That's ignorance. Maybe you're an atheist, which is the starting point of basic buddhism.

Shingon affirms the 'self'.

@heinmolenaar6750

Жыл бұрын

Shingon path is wrong about that, and you too. There is no self.

Many thanks to Ven Khenpo Jorden for trying to explain rebirth in a no-self Buddhist worldview. Bringing in ālayavijñāna into normal discussion is not easy... 🙏🏾 Hope to see many more such topics... Sad to see the unnecessary sanatan dharma, advaita, J Krishnamurthy etc trolling...

@meagoodwoman

2 жыл бұрын

if you look deeply, the differences are minor and the goal is similar..

@VBL16

2 жыл бұрын

@@meagoodwoman If you look deeply,both paths are opposite. advaita looks good only on paper

@anonymousanonymous2319

Жыл бұрын

Why are you hating on Sanatana Dharma? We have many similar concepts. Personally I've found it easier to relate to Atman and Brahman but this video was interesting too

@harshagrawal2851

11 ай бұрын

J krishnmurti explained it way better than him

@harshagrawal2851

11 ай бұрын

@@VBL16 can you elaborate how both paths are opposite?

the buddha was very clear that enlightenment/emancipation meant liberation of the Soul/Self. to liberate the Self one must cease the cycle of rebirth (the Self being born into another self/individual empirical consciousness).. the Self turns away from objective rebirth and towards undisturbed subjectivity.

Agreed! Only our Consciousness infused with our Karma ( Good or Bad ) travel to our next lives ... That's why All Buddhas & Mahabodhisattvas taught us to Cleanse our Mind & Practice Good Karma & Stay Away from Committing Bad Karma , so we will have a Good Rebirth & Transformation in our Next Life! 🙏 Thank You So Much His Holiness for this Valuable Teaching! 🙏 NÅMÖ ÅMÏTÅBHÅ BÜDDHÅ 🙏 ÖM MÅNÏ PÅDMÈ HÜM 🕯🌷🌿🌍💖🕊

@anestos2180

Жыл бұрын

there is no next life, only life. there isn't even "YOU" to begin with.

I think this can comprehensively be answered by someone who has real understanding of all schools of Indian Philosophy, since this question was at heart of debates back in the day between various schools. Proponents on all sides have tackled this question in different ways, prominent would be Vedanta and Buddhism. While Vedanta admits "Atman" as subtle body being reborn, Buddhists call it mere consciousness and negate it.

@Arjun-lg9fm

Жыл бұрын

@Vajrapani Soul is an extension of ego?, what philosophy is that. Osho is no authority on any school whatsoever.

@Arjun-lg9fm

Жыл бұрын

@Vajrapani your statement reflects your mind, you've learnt from KZread and hence Osho to you is an authority. Authority is someone who is master in his own field, what does Osho believe in. He talked about everything but in the end he negated everything, best you can argue is he believed in nihilism or sunyavada but far from an authority.

@Arjun-lg9fm

Жыл бұрын

@Vajrapani get hold of yourself, you're seething in your comment. What is Osho philosophy and how is it different from any of philosophies which existed before him. Sunyavada is translated as nihilism, don't compare Western definition cause that won't change the concept that sunyavada is. You won't get away by acting confused and lost neither.

@Arjun-lg9fm

Жыл бұрын

@Vajrapani all you have in your defence is "you're new to philosophy" you aren't bringing anything substantial to the table. Just a bunch of KZread wisdom is all. Read up a bit more before you engage in a discussion. Eastern or western concepts don't always have an equivalent in the other.

@Arjun-lg9fm

Жыл бұрын

@Vajrapani OOPS you started it read the comments again, and you're mirroring your psyche cause you got no arguments, whatever happened to Osho I wonder. Did I ever say I'm supporting any philosophy? and again you come here with you're seething mind pressing the issue. That's indicator of YT mind cause you attention span is just few seconds.

how long the rebirth or reborn will happen??

So if we are a non returner are we annihilated in the great void and become nonexistent?

some say Alaya Vijnana is the consciousness of the being, others says its the consciousness of the universe...someone could tell me what or where exactly is the Alaya Vijnana (being or universe)? thanks

No dogma. One has to know onees, thus will know for self. ❤

Nice. Seems to be the same as my belief - the only thing that transmigrates is the Vasanas. But, with no consciousness (or soul) attached to them, because there is only one consciousness.

@rainynight02

2 жыл бұрын

wait, so the "we are all parts of the creator returning to the creator" idea?

@bradstephan7886

2 жыл бұрын

@@rainynight02 The Creator, the Absolute has no parts.

@rainynight02

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertjsmith So we are all the entirety of creation. Or we are nothing at all. 🙄 Don't be obtuse you know exactly what I mean.

@rainynight02

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertjsmith That's what many monks have said, at the end of it we aren't real, we are nothing at all and we must unravel that. Makes no sense to me. But I'm going off of what you said, and there's only those two options is there can't be a "part" of anything. (Aka you being obtuse.) Then either every single person is the entirety of creation, or they're nothing at all. That's the only logical continuation of what you said.

@rainynight02

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertjsmith Right, every person is all of existence. Because that makes sense.

You might as well ask who is born. The ultimate sense cannot be applied to the practical sense. In the ultimate sense, there is Self, but no self. In the usual or practical sense, there is rebirth of the individual. You can't use the ultimate teaching to negate rebirth in the usual sense--I think this is what is called a "category error."

The after life is one place I prefer the Christian view over the Buddhist view. Heaven sounds a lot better then becoming sense impressions from a prior life. I have studied Buddhism for twenty years and I know their are different views of the after life amongst different schools. I never understood the higher worlds in Buddhism. Neither perception nor non perception, emptiness and the peak of existence. These were the highest worlds I believe in Mahayana Buddhism. What in the world would the peak of existence mean.

When I accended to the most high, all life accended with me, and I seen a naked earth. This earth is the only true physical existance, We are spirits. Our spirits use this physical earth to manifest a physical presence. With out this earth, no one could dream of being a human. The knowledge our spirits needed to manifest this physical presence came from one source. The one who gave us life.

@1Infeqaul1

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 Just because you are deficient of true compassion, and can no longer feel the truth. Does not mean all of mankind chose to be demons.

@1Infeqaul1

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 You are the one who chose to follow those who claim authority, and now you can not understand anything true or false. I chose to lead my own destiny, whereas you chose some other persons reality.

@1Infeqaul1

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 That is your ego extracting these thoughts. I ask for nothing, I did not claim authority. I am only giving my experiences, I have experenced. I know my future, I know the future of mankind. This is not something I took from another and repeated. You are very young, and your ego still blinds you. It is your own free will to choose what you want to believe. I chose to experience what I know. I know , you only believe. You lack the compassion to feel my intent.

@1Infeqaul1

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 lol. I will not debate with your chosen imagination. Experience is the only valid truth, all the rest is hearsay.

@1Infeqaul1

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 You do not experience reality, because you follow, when one follows , they are doing exactly what evil wants them to do. Nothing at all. When one finds God. Only evil knows, for mankind choose to believe liars, and are of no threat at all. You do not ecperience the spirit realms, because you chose to follow.

Look into Generic Subjective Continuity.

As science develops it is beginning to prove that consciousness does exist in a form without spatial dimensions and timeline. Some of us relate to this as spirit. Quantum physics has already laid the grounds for understand this state which some of us call it the sixth sense or dimensionless state. I think the string theory is getting closer to understanding all this as a science.I believe Buddhism will offer plenty of scope for further scientific insight into these dimensionless concepts

@Mr.VolumeTrader

2 жыл бұрын

whats your thought on predestination

@bladvagsrgyallo2053

2 жыл бұрын

It has, is and will contribute a lot to science. Watch the series of mind and life conferences with the Dalai Lama and scientists. It's quite interesting.

@willr3891

2 жыл бұрын

Not really on the quantum physics thing and string theory is not well developed, but yes I agree Buddhism is good.

What is Karma ? Is it detectable by the latest science ? How does it trace the target person for thousands of incarnations ?

Moitry Buddha I m SAKHAN. Approved by angel and text. But why no body know it? I should start a website soon

but then the store consciousness is permanent, so there is a soul and therefore there is a permanent self ..... can you explain It better?

@ichabodcrane2162

2 жыл бұрын

Nirvana end the cycle

@buddhistphilosopher800

2 жыл бұрын

Alaya vijñana *is not a "soul",* it isn't a substance neither posses identity, it is only the substratum where all karmical imprints are stored. That conscience is not permanent neither. AV It's not even the fundamental nature of sentient beings, that is *Thatagatagarba.*

@rohlay00

2 жыл бұрын

@@buddhistphilosopher800 so the buddhist believe in a kind of soul that is susceptible to change and is always transforming...? And is eternal? I dont understand why there must be a substrate that continues. The self is a phenomenon emergent from causes and conditions (inhabiting a body, mind and interacting in an enviroment), therefore being inherently empty. I understand the idea of no-self and may have experienced glimpses of it in deep states of meditation. But I dont understand why buddhist are advocates of rebirth. It's a claim with no proof. Karma and rebirth are probably the most superstitious claims of buddhism but actually can "make sense". Karma explains causality in the universe and rebirth explains how something comes from nothing, because it comes from something.

@buddhistphilosopher800

2 жыл бұрын

@@rohlay00 I cannot answer you at once, for some reason youtube erase my coment again and again. I tried to splitted in two and it was erased again. Now I splitted in three.

@buddhistphilosopher800

2 жыл бұрын

@@rohlay00 Substrate consciousness is not a "type of soul." The notion of soul is accompanied by the idea of ​​substantiality, independence, and permanence. Alaya-vijñana lacks these three characteristics. The self is not a phenomenon, it is a delusion, a mirage, a deceive of the mind itself due to the psychic process of identification with the body, thoughts, emotions, and the apparent integrity in an individual that these phenomena seem to have. There is not and will never be a "self".

if the wrong information will be going around in circles the process will never stop mind is one but wrong views are plenty

The real question is why do we believe that our actions can effect our next life (or whether or not we have one) when the goal is to let go? Is it helping?

@DanielMByron

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure if “to let go” is a completely accurate summary of the “view”, and if we adopt the position of Nihilism that you’ve suggested here: that there are no effects from our actions (along a relatively existing continuum propelled by dualistic ignorance): then any purpose of a “spiritual path” is either rendered useless or it’s only purpose is one framed within reductive materialism. Buddhists believe actions cause effects because we understand that things arise in dependence upon other causes, previous relatively existing moments (however this is not Ultimately real: see Emptiness/Shunyata). For the same reasoning because effects emerge from causes, a mind must have a previous moment of existence, as we do not believe in the “emergence theory” that new things emerge without causes, especially that a mind could emerge out of matter (see dhatu’s in the Abidharma). Because we do not believe in ex-nihilo (without cause, or an immovable mover), there must be a prior moment of mine before the current (this also doesn’t resist the Ultimate analysis: which means, like actions/effect (karma), the mind is empty

@bobaldo2339

2 жыл бұрын

Some people refuse to let go. Peering over the edge of the Void they fear to enter, fearing to lose their egos.

Reincarnation is like a memory rising to the level of consciousness. Memories combine to form new memories, return to unconsciousness, and arise when conditions are right.

@1210CM

2 жыл бұрын

Is your statement based on personal experience or on hearsay?

@TheWayOfRespectAndKindness

2 жыл бұрын

@@1210CM personal experience, thanks for asking 🙏🏼

@DanielMByron

2 жыл бұрын

The unconsciousness is a theory found only is European Psychology and is not present in Buddhadharma. The alayavijnana spoken of here isn’t the subconscious

@TheWayOfRespectAndKindness

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 are you not a summation of your memories?

@TheWayOfRespectAndKindness

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielMByron the Dharma has been forgotten. Unconsciousness and Emptiness are synonymous. Does not everything arise from Emptiness and return to Emptiness?

I still don't understand the difference between these 'minds' versus the concept of a soul . If you read the Bardo thodol it's the 'person ' who encounters all these beings and goes trough all the experiences. The personal 'me' is constructed by the brain, so one could argue it's the part that dies when the brain dies.

@spiritualanarchist8162

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 You project things i never said . I'm not talking about god, I'm just using the soul as a metaphysical concept. I'm also not saying the brain creates consciousness. The brain is what creates the ego out of past experiences and future expectations, feelings, thoughts, etc .We can proof that trough neurology. . 'The mind creates the personal identity , thus the ego . The mind is not consciousness. We can't find the mind in the brain trough neuroscience. And consciousness is that what's aware of the mind . It's not the mind .

@spiritualanarchist8162

2 жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 Using all caps doesn't make it more true. You can repeat the same Buddhist theories, but i know them inside out. That's not what i'm questioning. It's about the confusion around terminology . 'Mind ', Ego , etc are subjective concepts . We only truly know we are conscience. That's a mystery for Western science. We do know that there are Genetic influences .neurological influences, trauma etc that create a personality. Karma is a theological concept. That's fine, but where is Karma 'stored' ? One can't just say 'the mind 'reincarnates. What 'mind' ?

@evoo6

2 жыл бұрын

soul = spirit

Isn't that mind container that continues not another, more scientific, term for the soul?

Are there no new souls being created?

if there is a Self, then there's an ego, is one of the four fallacious notions, if there's an ego there is an attachment and discrimination (I, you, we and them). Sunyata, from interdependent origin all things arise and pass away, including the Self (ego) Self-less. Our perception is very limited our Karma does not allow us to understand or even visualized with a conceptual mind. The answer is within, through intense concentration and Meditation can be visualize. OM Bohdisattva

@brainsaladsurgery4594

2 жыл бұрын

@Pine Joi I truly hope that some day you achieve inner peace, it is not important which vehicle you use, all the Wisdom of the Universe is within, try to find it when the is right. Thanks for the comment, I do respect your opinion. Peace Earth Brother

@brainsaladsurgery4594

2 жыл бұрын

@Pine Joi Aloha again, I live in the Hawai'i Nation is 4:10 am, I just finished with the mental training, I'll be glad to satisfy your curiosity at a later time, in the mean time please visualize Sunyata you'll be able to answer the question if not I'll be glad to clarify it, please do not attach to concepts, have a mind free of obstacles. Aloha Aina

@evoo6

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@brainsaladsurgery4594

2 жыл бұрын

@@evoo6 Aloha, greetings from the Halema'uma'u crater, Peace. Mrs/Mr; Blue. Malama 'Aina

@bobaldo2339

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. Just as a man dying of thirst cannot quench that thirst with the word "water", a man truly seeking awakening cannot find it in concepts. The many different teachings, different methods, used in the many different sorts of Buddhism - all the various sorts of upaya - are merely fingers pointing at the moon. An inward nonverbal awakening is the goal.

How wise can a buddhist monk with bleached teeth be?

It sounds like he doesn’t know either. Nobody knows. If someone tells you that they know… they aren’t being truthful to you. ❣️

@bumblebeme

2 жыл бұрын

Theres some information we are forbidden to bring with us in this plane

@pheresy1367

2 жыл бұрын

"it has been said...". Is a qualifying statement that indicates what follows is NOT from personal experience. I can't claim with any authority that NO BEING can ever know and if they "claim to know", they are just lying. But the whole point of Buddha's teachings is to assist you in finding out for yourself.

@DanielMByron

2 жыл бұрын

It is understood within the tradition that there is the perception of sentient beings, those on the path (who have gained some insight through practice) and fully accomplished Buddhas (the three visions). What the Khenpo is teaching would be a combination of the teachings of the second two: the words of the Buddha and of those with insight on the path. Indeed there’s a lot of fakes out there, and there’s an internal tradition to assess a teacher and their teaching before adopting it.

@kenkaplan3654

2 жыл бұрын

I kind of thought that. His reasoning is circular and if there are different schools, there is no consensus.

@waldwassermann

2 жыл бұрын

That's not necessarily correct. Truth is simple but appears purposely complex. The question is "why". Why would one appear complex/diverse/differentiated to itself? Could it be so that it is not good for One to be alone?

There is a self. Look into Theravadan meditation.

@gra6649

2 жыл бұрын

True, there is no self. However, the true truth cannot be put into words, and so one should be careful not to turn an insight into a belief. That one is is certain. What one is, not so much.

@SBCBears

2 жыл бұрын

@@gra6649 Look to the original teachings. The Tathagatha used these terms to describe the "not-self": dhammakaya, Brahma body and luminous. It is curious to me that puthujjana often assert the conditions of "not-self" or "no-self" without having direct insight into their own "true nature". These assertions are the result of the "not-knowing" or "ignorant" mind struggling to understand. This struggle to understand and explore different notions of self is normal and actually comprises a large part of the the route to stream entry. These assertions are always based on a reasoned interpretation of the dhamma, but not upon direct seeing. It is correct to engage in this struggle, but incorrect to assert understanding before stream entry or, better yet, sotapanna stage.

@ramakrishnanpanchapakesan299

2 жыл бұрын

@@gra6649 That state of Pure Being is best known thru Advaita, which can take you closest to rediscovering your Essential Nature of Being/ Existence-Consciousness- Bliss ( Sat Chit- Ananda). Yes ultimately words cannot express it to perfection, as it is not an OBJECT of Experience to an Experiencing Aware Subject, but is Verily the Subject itself, which Witnesses all experiences. So it cannot be pointed to as a form ( Rupa) / quality ( Guna) or Object (Vasthu), and Transcends Space, Time, Causation and Duality.

When you realize that you are a soul with a body and not a body with a soul your confusion will clear.

@FragranceView

2 жыл бұрын

When you realise that the soul is also part of the illusion of maya, and there are no individual entities in the reality of the Self, your confusion will clear.

@evoo6

2 жыл бұрын

@@FragranceView yep :) lol. True I guess. Good one.

@MysteriousResearcher

2 жыл бұрын

@@FragranceView You say “ when YOU realize that the soul…..” whom do you think is the “you”? My child, You cannot think yourself out of existence when the very thought you project in your reply is proof of your existence. What you are confusing is the relationship between the soul and the all eternal one mind. In this relationship the soul indeed is nothing more than an aspect-or as spiritually evolving Buddhists tend to call it-an illusion. Words. Words. Words. Silence. Just be. To be is not to not be.

no mind

In what sense, then, is whatever passes on to the next life identified with or as a self? Consciousness has a subject- a transcendental apperception: a subjects experiences and a continuity. The video appears to add a kind of bag or container to the next life - not a rebirth that is " mine". And since there's no self anyway its not clear what that would mean.

@rainynight02

2 жыл бұрын

that's something that confuses me. "there is no self" so all the thoughts, desires, fears, wants, etc, are all "blankets" let's say wrapped around nothing yet now that nothing is suddenly experiencing life because of these layers surrounding it? this doesn't make sense to me.

@donnievance1942

Жыл бұрын

@@rainynight02 You and me both. To say that our personality, our memories will not survive, but that somehow we still reincarnate, seems like empty gibberish to me. To say that it is "mental consciousness" that continues, but somehow it's not something that I'm conscious of now-- that idea just seems to have no content. If there is something associated with me that will survive into another life, what the hell is it? There is no description of such a thing in this video. All that is given to the viewer seems to be a couple technical Buddhist names for this entity, which seems to have no sensible characteristics. This concept of reincarnation is the huge defect of Buddhism in my mind. Philosophical Taoism, on the other hand doesn't deal with any such metaphysical bushwa. It offers us an attitude to live by without any theoretical mumbo jumbo. It doesn't offer us a heaven, threaten us with hell, saddle us with a karma-ridden reincarnating "mental consciousness" that we have to strive to annihilate, or postulate any gods. It simply tells us that the ground of being is forever mysterious and that by being free of grasping, being flexible like the willow, accepting mystery, and letting ourselves flow in the current of nature, we will do as well as we can do.

I can only say my own thoughts on the matter. In my view rebirth is reappearance of intelligence. Us personally may not rebirth but intelligence, conciousness of mind will reappear somewhere again in the Universe. Comprehension on the scope of the Universe may already appear elsewhere. In my views, rebirth is not of the self but of the kind.

@howardstrauss5337

Жыл бұрын

You can also choose silence.

The 8th mental consciousness in mahayana buddhism, which reincarnates carrying all the mental imprints to the next life (that the monk speaks in this video), is similar to what the Advaitins call the causal body, which too is a storehouse of mental imprints and reincarnates.

@tyreliouszukarious2582

2 жыл бұрын

who are the advaitins ? can this be proven anyway or do we take it by faith as in big bang theory or black hole ?

@bigfootvalley4480

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyreliouszukarious2582 Advaita is actually monism. To the advaitins, the total existence is One undivided reality. All the gods, living beings, planets, stars etc. are ONE and the same, in its deeper, absolute state. There is no difference between you, me or the gods in heaven in the ultimate/final state, but everything 'appears' to be separate which is an illusion. This illusory reality of separateness is due to ignorance called maya, which needs to be removed, so that we can percieve the 'oneness' underlying all beings and objects ... Advaitins are hindus. Unlike other hindu denominations, advaitins don't worship thousands of hindu gods. They stress on knowledge. Through learning and finally meditation, they try to seek the ONE infinite omnipresent spirit that pervades everything and is called Brahman, which to them, is their real eternal Self and not some separate deity or God. Unlike other hindu denominations which believes in multiple souls or selves, Advaita teaches that there is only ONE Self in all of creation called Brahman, which is infinite and all-pervasive, which has pervaded and animated all the worlds and bodies. As a student of advaita you'll have to go through their teachings and scriptures at first. They allow healthy debates and discussions. After your learning period is over, you'll be encouraged to meditate and seek the eternal infinite Self (Brahman) for yourself. They don't stress on dogmas and faith. They rather stress on actual realization or experience of this infinite Self. Such an experience comes during a meditative trance like state called samadhi. According to the masters, the experience of Self/Brahman in samadhi cannot be proven or described later to the outer world, because in samadhi, the mind stops functioning (like how it usually functions in the waking world). The mind becomes mute (cessation of all thoughts). When this happens, the mind/ego stops identifying itself as the 'seeker' or as a separate creature. During this state, the subject and the object becomes ONE. The subject (seeker) and the object (Brahman/the infinite Self/Totality) becomes one. There remains no sense of distinction between the two. And this is enlightenment. :=)

@tyreliouszukarious2582

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigfootvalley4480 I thank you for your replay in detail. It was very helpful. I'm sure whoever reads this will gain a good understanding as well. Do most hindus practice meditation to the level of Oneness in this life ? or just the gurus who achieve it? To me , it sounds challenging and scary to try and meditate to the point of no thought and breathing and face death just to practice.

@bigfootvalley4480

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyreliouszukarious2582 Well, most hindus (the common folks) are image and idol worshippers. They practice the path of bhakti (love, devotion and in some cases rituals as well) which are directed towards a separate creator God. They either pray to their chosen deity in temples or in a small home based shrine. Most common hindu folks are not aware of the path of oneness (advaita). And those who are aware find it difficult to practice, since meditation is not an easy task. If something goes wrong during meditation it can cause psychosis. This is why meditation should be practiced under the guidance of a guru ... Moving on ... The intellectual hindus on the other hand, who are fewer in number, don't like the path of bhakti (love, devotion, rituals, idol worship etc.) They rather prefer reading scriptures like Upanishads, discussion and meditation on the infinite Self or Oneness. Yes, for people like you and me, it can seem a little scary at first, but upon proper enquiry or online reasearch you'll know that no one actually dies from meditating on oneness. What really happens is that, after samadhi/enlightenment, the veil of ignorance/maya will be removed. After that you will continue to live a normal daily healthy life, but you'll stop recognizing with your false ego. The false ego (which is a product of maya/ignorance) creates separateness, racism, hatred, negativity, superiority, inferiority, ideas like - this is mine, that is yours etc. etc. As i said earlier, after enlightenment, once the veil of maya/ignorance (and its product, the false ego) is removed, the person connects to its higher nature which is full of wisdom, love, compassion and unity. ...If you're interested you can register for free on religiousforums.com where we can discuss more. My name is Greg. I'm a member there. :=)

@tyreliouszukarious2582

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigfootvalley4480 Hello and Thank you ! Greg. I'll sign up and hope you catch you there as well. very interesting indeed. One last question before I let you go if you don't mind :) you said .."upon proper enquiry or online research you'll know that no one actually dies from meditating on oneness." different from the one with a potential for psychosis ? is their approach different from the general mindfulness breath meditation or vipasana alike, which are known to be ok ?

I never was from earth my last birth , I came from the stars , and will be returning back after this life here , my job has been full filled here now on earth , the people I needed to communicate with has been done .

@howardstrauss5337

Жыл бұрын

Why do you feel the need to share this? And how do you know?

@howardstrauss5337

Жыл бұрын

@@heinmolenaar6750 would that you meant the cruelty of imprisoning animals. But you actually "think" animals are lesser than humans. You have no powers of observation, and nothing i can call a heart. Pity the ten dollar hooker that gets stuck with you. Ignorant hateful little man.

@lorenacharlotte8383

Жыл бұрын

It sounds like you had some night dream while sleeping.

@tutorialchief

Жыл бұрын

nice fanatsy concept but has nothing to do with reality

The question is . If we where not meant to be separate entities why did we incarnate in the first place. This is the question. Where do ghost come from? Where do spirits come from? The soul has been seen with MRI and things of that nature . What is that? When people die and they say they saw their body and came back , what is that? If there is no Soul . Why is this even a thing . This is a sorry excuse of not knowing

Hi, everyone, is karma like unfinished business so rebirth is required to deal with the unfinished business. But if business can be finished, there is no reason for rebirth and samsara is done. Is it a bit like that? Maybe? Lol.

its through the step of uniting the head with the heart..the surrender of the head to the heart that opens the path to enlightenment and if you didnt develope this state during life it will certainly not exist after death....a new incarnation will come with a new head to try again...wil it claim the crown or sacrifice itself willingly for this birth ?

The answer imho is that there is no self - but neither is there any reincarnation.

if the consciousness is rebirthed. then why self and no self debate. according to trika shaivism philosophy " Chaitanyam atma" . which means consciousness is self. what is the difference then?

Now every minute there is more human on the planet. Where do all those new souls come from?

@valfosco

2 жыл бұрын

There are no souls

@JuanGarcia-wo3ok

2 жыл бұрын

@@valfosco Well whatever we suppose to incarnate into.

Truth is no one knows

Has modern neurology recognised the existence of the 7th and 8th consciousnesses ?

The more sure one is of their answer to such a question, the less they understand.