550hp Civic Type R vs "500hp" '69 Camaro Z/28 // HONDA vs HATERS
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Import or domestic? Turbo 4 banger or blown V8? FWD or RWD? HONDAS or HATERS? Beto @ONDGAS is back, but this time he brought his "Sunday Cruiser" 1969 Camaro Z/28 instead of his truck Crawfish. He claims to be rocking a fairly mild 500hp supercharged LS3 under the hood, but it seems suspiciously fast... In the other corner we've got Jake from @jsrengines in his FK8 Civic Type R that's pushing 32 POUNDS OF BOOST through a stock motor. These cars couldn't be more different, but the race is a close one!
JAKE TORRES / 2018 HONDA CIVIC TYPE R
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BETO ONDGAS / 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28
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00:00 HONDA vs HATERS
01:55 HONDA: Jake's 2018 Honda FK8 Civic Type R
07:07 HATER: Beto's 1969 Chevy Camaro Z/28
10:55 Predictions
12:00 Round 1
13:50 Round 2
15:24 Round 3
16:24 Blowin' Smoke
Пікірлер: 3 800
I love that the 500 is in quotes. Nobody with an old school car tells the truth about power
@Viniciuspaixaodeoliveira
Жыл бұрын
A fucking 10 liter big block 2 turbos with the size of a 15” weel e the guy say is 300 hp
@justyngilliam4051
Жыл бұрын
@@Viniciuspaixaodeoliveira fun little story. My dad has a 1000 hp camaro now because the dealership was told it was stock. It makes 13 lbs of boost on a pro charger with methanol spray. Not stock
@CrashRacknShoot
Жыл бұрын
@@justyngilliam4051 nah, that was the performance+ package that year from the factory. All OEM my guy.
@crxtodd16
Жыл бұрын
@@CrashRacknShoot 🤣
@cam_e6195
Жыл бұрын
@@CrashRacknShoot yeah I think it’s a new package for the ss I think
That second race legit felt like a OG fast and Furious race
@cantiflascantiflas8460
Жыл бұрын
Monicaaaaaaa
@BikeLife609
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@emce3ime_linuxtechaddict936
Жыл бұрын
the death race
@elchapoguzman104
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@yurilopes420
Жыл бұрын
BROOOO i got chills, jdm vs muscle, the 2 dudes in the car screaming, both cars inching forward, my god that was sick
That’s a dream Camaro.
@somenteasescrituras4064
10 ай бұрын
Terrible wheels
Just seeing Dan in an episode makes me happy. He was the reason I became a regular watcher of this channel. Nice to see you back Dan. 👍
@Joebobinator
Жыл бұрын
Dan got me on the channel with the shark (shart?) kart build years back, loved how he's got the cool guy energy and some serious fab skills to back it up. Hope the stuff he's moving on for gets him where he wants to be!
"When you run out of things to do, you start doing dumb shit" Quote of the year right here, truer words have never been spoken.
@amador4417
Жыл бұрын
Yup sounds about right
@ryanpaul6012
Жыл бұрын
Shoulda opened up that motor. Typical Honda owners
@ArchAngel-FJB
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanpaul6012 He ran out of stuff to do but barely even touched the motor....SMH
@emersonflores580
Жыл бұрын
@@ArchAngel-FJB this Honda obviously doesn’t want a fast one. If he spent his money on a titanium dipstick 🤣. But oh well it isn’t my money
@kdot9715
Жыл бұрын
@@emersonflores580 this isnt his FAST honda. He has a faster one
"When you run out of things to do you start doing dumb shit" that's my life story bro
@jordanphillips8642
Жыл бұрын
Like buy a type r😂
@ericvoge6678
Жыл бұрын
Some folks do dumb shit just to run out of stuff to do. Like 35% of the people i work with.
@veto8792
Жыл бұрын
Like putting over $100 K in a Honda Civic.
@dualsportdiary1150
Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@UcheRed
Жыл бұрын
🤣😂 Titanium god. Dude is beast 🤣😂...
That Z/28 is beautiful, and it hooks nice too. Almost a perfect race on the last two.
"It bogged" because it weighs as much as a dump truck with you in it
@jsrengines
Жыл бұрын
or the fact that I let off the clutch at 3k because I wasn't about to dig my R.
I Love how the Camaro owner was cleaning the car while you were talking about Lotion and a Honda 😂
@siilko2586
Жыл бұрын
you know the boys from texas cant be caught dead with a dirty car. OnDGas crew really about it.
@BurnedNerd
Жыл бұрын
@@siilko2586 True that... a beauty like that needs to be clean...
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
Жыл бұрын
Black, it collects dust faster than metal dust to an electromagnet.
@siilko2586
Жыл бұрын
@@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 ain’t that the truth. I’ve owned 2 black cars and I don’t think I’ll be able to do it again😭
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
Жыл бұрын
@@siilko2586 Me ether. Plus I am Forida man so the heat is nutz
“Let’s go over there and feel poor together” I felt that 💀
@xeryously704
Жыл бұрын
😂 I know that’s right
@WE_WUZ
Жыл бұрын
But at least they can still see their penis. That man looked like he was 2 cheeseburgers away from a heart attack
@ludicrous7044
Жыл бұрын
ME2☹️ 💵💵💵
@danv2888
Жыл бұрын
How about I just get you some Titanium?
@walter9724
11 ай бұрын
Shake it off bro. It'll be alright 😂👍👍
I love how the civic guy is all about lightweight everything, titanium lug nuts ffs….. like bro. I have a way for you to cut 150lbs out of race weight for real cheap.
@timmoran1194
Жыл бұрын
Naw he said he wasn't cutting much weight. He just likes it.
@yoltsbp
Жыл бұрын
Who really cares about being fat. Let people be themself if they are happy let them be. If they’re unhappy with their weight be supportive. No need to bring negativity
@jcdebbs
Жыл бұрын
Dude is cool as hell and he eats like a king. Been following him on fb for over 10 years and ALWAYS gets me craving the best SoCal tacos. To each their own.
@professorgoat1099
Жыл бұрын
once he is gone, the second owner will do better with the car. hes got like 5 years left. pc folks call him brave despite the fact he is literally dying in front of them.
@GKkingg
Жыл бұрын
@@jcdebbs we can tell.
i love the videos with beto because they’re not super intense like other episodes, they’re just fucking hilarious
Y'all need to have this Camaro owner on more often he's hilarious
@AndresGarcia-pp7kh
Жыл бұрын
They got their own KZread
@MF-Rell
Жыл бұрын
@@AndresGarcia-pp7kh @?
@AndresGarcia-pp7kh
Жыл бұрын
@@MF-Rell ondgas
@MF-Rell
Жыл бұрын
@@AndresGarcia-pp7kh Thanks
@Frank-xy3bl
Жыл бұрын
"alumanium" LMFAOOO
This episode was hilarious. The energy, the double jump at the beginning, Dan and Beto having their own rendition of MONICAAAA was the best!
@rogerdunn497
Жыл бұрын
Frr
@polton00
Жыл бұрын
the double jump, and the monica moment were pure gold
@fefloria
Жыл бұрын
menage went bye bye lol
@B01
Жыл бұрын
the best is how unbelievably casually he just drops: "yeah and 32lbs of boost" 🤣🤣 I'm dead 2:30 not to mention having 100k worth of parts and upgrades, multiple engines, multiple transmissions, but stock brakes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's about the most Honda thing I've ever heard
@edwinacevedo1776
Жыл бұрын
Wow 4 cylinder 500+ HP light body wow v8
Damn, that Camaro is freakin gorgeous! Perfect the way it is! 👌
@ghostmofo5829
Жыл бұрын
That's why it wins before the engines even start. Screw that Honda.
@Valdabois
11 ай бұрын
Lol the Honda almost won the last race so🙊.
I came here to see cars go vroom and then they started talking. Car talk is a pure mixture of nerdyness and Coolness rolled up into one and I love it hahah
My boys at OnDGas!!!!!!! I fuckin love all their rides, first their boosted brick flew past an all carbon r35, now they bring this gorgeous 69 camaro, my favorite car on earth… drive it to church too?! Love these guys and I love this Hondas vs haters series!!!
@screwstontxrippimpcripdjsc3630
Жыл бұрын
Awwebo all my fellow Nissan fans was hating 😆 🤣 😂
OnDgas always putting on a show 🙏
@franciscomendoza6258
Жыл бұрын
nah fr 💪🏽
@Obamaisgey
Жыл бұрын
Every time I see with somebody with one of those stickers in Houston it’s always an asshole.
@rudydiego3084
Жыл бұрын
Better show then hoonigan 😅
@isiah4840
Жыл бұрын
Them Texas boys
@ScatLopez817
Жыл бұрын
U knw how we do it in Texas🦾
clean AF Camaro and fast. Legit thought the R was gonna take it by a car or more.
@wrxtasy2010
Жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. Why didn't he smoke the Cameron? Not to be rude, but is driver weight the reason for not doing better?
@GetOffMyLog
Жыл бұрын
@@wrxtasy2010 nah, rwd plus he's probably making like 650 horse tbh. Blown 6.2 does NOT make 500
@BigWheel.
Жыл бұрын
@@wrxtasy2010 torque
That picture from the drone was like F&F 2 Yenko vs Evo... Love it!
When he asked “ is your ring titanium ? “ & bro said “ yes “ I lost it 🤣
The civic dudes humbleness is incredibly impressive. He's a legit dude
He probably heavier than the whole car 😂
@repawn3610
Жыл бұрын
but Titanium
@carlmayer691
Жыл бұрын
HA...putting the weight of 2 humans in the Camaro evened it up.....
@minecraftmaster6582
Жыл бұрын
Man i was going to said that he is 3 times bigger then me 🤣
@fix0r420
Жыл бұрын
How does he fit ? Lol
@isidrobotello1661
Жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂😂😂
Hands down, best car content on KZread right now!!
Someone give the editor a medal 🏅 the guy never fails when adding the memes 🤙
@hi7535
Жыл бұрын
They fail hard
@antonygonzalez2762
Жыл бұрын
Almost everything they use is cringe and unnecessary
@FonicsSuck
Жыл бұрын
@@antonygonzalez2762 5+mil subscribers.
@elcasho
Жыл бұрын
meme game was on fire!
@daveyanderson6166
Жыл бұрын
That's most of the reason I watch the videos.
As a v8 guy with a built transmission I can say that sounds like a stock transmission so he’s not lying about the transmission being stock, you can hear how slow the shifts were. Cool cars and races nonetheless
@cfltitan
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was definitely a “slush box”.
@Salim_shahidy
Жыл бұрын
@@cfltitan what's a slush box? im assuming it has something to do with human flesh lol
@notimportant8120
Жыл бұрын
@@Salim_shahidy automatic transmission. Works by slushing fluid around to make pressure
@cfltitan
Жыл бұрын
@@Salim_shahidy 😂 😂
@Moonlight-hq3gi
Жыл бұрын
@Jon Deth what's the point in racing a stock honda vs modded camaro
Sounds like practical Houston stock situation like we do here 😂
Cool video with hilarious editing and the owners are cool, funny motorheads👍🏾 Love the "Lie-ometer"😂
I just love how the whole culture of sandbagging in drag racing has become a part of this series. It's always the old guy who says he "used to do a bit of drag racing back in the day" or it's the guy who brings an old car and says "it's only got like 500hp"
@baggedtuned8569
Жыл бұрын
clearly its 50-100 hp more than the Type R
@tskraj3190
Жыл бұрын
@@baggedtuned8569 It probably does only have around 500 HP. The big difference in launch is most likely in the gear ratio of the rear diff because in the roll race the Honda starts to pick up speed in the end of the 1000 ft but the Camaro's top end is limited because of it's low gearing.
@jesusdelgado3959
Жыл бұрын
That's probably the slowest car ondgas has at the shop.
@joshreynolds729
Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget hoonigan does not show tq numbers which matter in a drag race to 1000ft. Or average power number or average tq numbers on the curve which is really what matters. 8 cylinders is better than 4 when it’s only sacrificing 200lbs to get twice the cylinders.
@wanderbread4217
Жыл бұрын
@@tskraj3190 needed a driver mod 😂
When they screamed “Noooo!!!” In sync I lost it 😭😭
@reedOsama
Жыл бұрын
MONIIIIICA!!!
@jnieto490
Жыл бұрын
@@reedOsama thought the same thing 😂
@-tarificpromo-7196
Жыл бұрын
@@jnieto490 Jesse from race wars against Johnny Tran
Great race as always hoonigan never disappoints!!
This is the best episode with the most entertaining car explanation segments 🤣 Theyre both hilarious
I'm definitely a 69 Camaro fan that thing rip's as expected but holy shit that Honda was pretty damn impressive. No offense to the big guy that owned the Honda but a smaller guy in it he would of had it I'm impressed 👍
@whodidyoudirty3323
Жыл бұрын
Dude was getting winded explaining the build. I’m a Honda fan but dam there’s a certain point where you gotta buy a truck or a suv lmao
@MrSatchelpack
Жыл бұрын
@@whodidyoudirty3323 Or I dunno, get in shape. Cars are fun, but health is way more important. In this case, why not be lighter and faster.
@KyleFinneyPhotography
Жыл бұрын
Same thing I was thinking. I'm sure he's a great dude and all, but replacing all the bolts with titanium isn't going to offset the driver's weight.
@mr.nightshade8465
Жыл бұрын
@@justinfee819 Hey I’m fat 5 foot nine about 275 pounds I know I’m fat and if somebody was to tell me that it’s not gonna hurt my feelings. Believe me I want to lose weight and get into shape. I think that guy showed to he will live longer and be able to enjoy cars a lot more and for many years to come. The problem with this world today is everybody is just too sensitive.
@mr.nightshade8465
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSatchelpack I totally agree with you and understand what you’re saying and you don’t sound insulting in any way you’re just telling the truth.
You never bet against OnDaGas racing! Didn't they remember that red "work" truck he brought last time?!
@MrElpajita
Жыл бұрын
LMFAO, it's not like the car flies.....
@cameronmeng3071
Жыл бұрын
@@MrElpajita flies faster than that honda....
@KingJT80
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronmeng3071 A LOT FASTER LOL
@jmemixx
Жыл бұрын
@@MrElpajita bro it gapped the honda by like 7 cars in the first race lol
Love seeing OnDGas pull up always down to party
This was a great race between these guys. Beautifully cars that Camaro was sexy. Stay safe guys
I can’t help but to feel a sense of Sarcasm from the Hoonigan crew, while covering the Titanium Honda lol 😂
Round 2 was a lot of fun to watch. I was yelling out loud with the Camaro dudes when the Civic started pulling. Love close races like that!
That Camaro is MAGNIFICENT, I'm normally a corner carving junky...but I'd absolutely love to have one just like that to cruise around in. Damn that car is beautiful 😍👌
Hoonigan: What you got in that 5th gen Roush? Me: 25cc weedeater engine running strait to the driveshaft... no trans. Hoonigan: **Impressive.. lets take that at face value.**
Beto needs his own show. We can call it "Guess how much HP I'm lying about..."
@robertreynolds930
Жыл бұрын
he has a youtube channel, quite popular
@eddiemaravillas9879
Жыл бұрын
Check out ondgas KZread channel
Dan: I'm leaving Hoonigan to do more of my own thing 😥 Also Dan: *Appears in every episode* 😀
@robertreynolds930
Жыл бұрын
hes been in 2 video's , both from the "civic vs haters" episodes, they film them in one day, im just guessing hes gonna be in a couple more too, since it was filmed the same day....
@LandonClimbs
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that had a whole crew of honda bois there for a film day
@smartgorilla
Жыл бұрын
Dan must be seeing no hooni 💸 money.. or subscribers. thinks he is Ronaldo 😂😂😂😂
@TheBroLounge
Жыл бұрын
they film these earlier in the year. It gets 100+ degrees in the summer there
Probably my favorite episode yet
This one is certainly up there on top. So good! So close! Two totally from two different world.
ODG makes everything better….we need more of them
The guy in the Honda was lowkey mad at the end 😂
@jmemixx
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah he was lol haha
@kevinponce2673
Жыл бұрын
Because in the two episodes he's been on, he's been beat by an LS. I'd be mad too if I was a JDM fan 🤣
@Baconbeater
Жыл бұрын
Hard life with fwd
@esoterikk1
Жыл бұрын
Because no matter what you do you're not making a stock body civic fast. Need slicks and some gutting at The least to hang with the big boys. Unless you build the motor then it's a different story.
@ArtVandelayOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Most of the Honda's on the channel are embarrassing
This episode put a smile on my face
if Jake comes back on here with his new built motor, remove the wing and the splitter as well for roll racing. Stuff like that slows you down. Solid guy in the fk8 community. Keep it up!
The Camaro is everything I'd ever want out of a muscle car. Would be an amazing car to cruise with. JDM is more handling for me anyways!
@weirdbeardgarage
Жыл бұрын
That thing is as sick as they get. Wouldn't change a thing!
@b.neallee7042
Жыл бұрын
I have a 1969 AMC AMX XCODE 390 .040 OVER GO PACK WITH EVERY AVAILABLE OPTION. EVEN THE R12 A/C WORKS I DRIVE IT ALMOST EVER DAY. NEAL
@TheRedRaven_
Жыл бұрын
What a dream car, I would take that Camaro over a 2 million dollar super car any day!
@mikebradshaw8530
Жыл бұрын
Mike Bradshaw 1 second ago Its a clean ride. But the guy was just bullshit all the way home with only 500hp under the hood. By the guesstimate its closer to 900. Its a stock camaro with a super charger. Lol.
Hell yeah danger Dan is back. Missed the shit outta him. 🤘
@thomashalley7258
Жыл бұрын
He has his own channel
@charityfannon5292
Жыл бұрын
I know he hasn’t uploaded in awhile though. It was good to see him back.
@thomashalley7258
Жыл бұрын
@@charityfannon5292 if he is doing all the editing and building by himself it's probably a big adjustment. Or he is just taking it easy after running full steam for so long.
@EthanFabz
Жыл бұрын
I think this was pre filmed he doesn’t work at hoonigan anymore. But don’t take my word for it go to danger dans YT
@Cynsham
Жыл бұрын
@@EthanFabz he doesn't work for hoonigan anymore, same with jon chase
Love it. I'm old school but it is neat to see the challenge between the old school sexy and new tech. Keep up the good work. Go chevy
Might be the funniest one yet. Nice work.
That Camaro is the most beautiful car I've ever seen
@guyknightley3499
Жыл бұрын
Ford, Chevy, and Dodge were making some of the best-looking cars to ever be made in 1968-69.
@caffey500
Жыл бұрын
Anthony, I introduce to you the Pagani Zonda
@smiller225
Жыл бұрын
The late 60s early 70s were the sexiest cars ever made
@bubblelex5051
Жыл бұрын
Muscle cars from late 60s earl 70s, italian supercars from the 80s-early 00s, and jdm from the 90s are the sexiest cars ever made.
@thesillypig785
Жыл бұрын
@@caffey500 Zonda? Boy no modern supercar is sexier than a classic muscle car.
Not sure why everyone thinks the Camaro was lying about it’s power? Honda making 550~ was reeling him in on the top end and the cars were similar in weight (especially with big boy in the Honda).
@johnmeza955
Жыл бұрын
True and turbo vs supercharged, the Camaro has more torque, rwd and is faster from the dig. But the Honda is faster on the top end once its boosting correctly. If it was a longer race for ex. a quarter mile the Honda would have won. Not to mention that it looks like if the driver was lighter it would have won the 1000 as well
@ChokolateSushi23
Жыл бұрын
Better gearing, better aero. Camaro only has a 4 speed and is shaped like a brick. The top speed on Type R is 169 stock, and this one is pretty modified.
@lb9gta307
Жыл бұрын
@@ChokolateSushi23 a 4 speed auto is better for drag racing than a 6 speed manual
@rlc532
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Chevy most likely makes more torque and able move away at first but the horse power wins at speed
@Lord_Broccoli
Жыл бұрын
Can't forget about the huge wing on the back of the honda. Probably Creates alot of drag
Great shit. Probably the nicest FK8 I've ever seen and one hell of a classic Camaro... and every one of these dudes is funny as hell. That's wholesome entertainment!
this was my favorite episode.
OnDGas never disappoints
Y’all must not know what “Houston stock” means 😂
@Cynsham
Жыл бұрын
Down here in San Antonio too, lowered shortbed Silverados will gap you like you've never seen a truck move before
@envyhysteria
Жыл бұрын
That means its at least a 9 sec car. Their "traffic" at least. lol
@Gloguns
Жыл бұрын
@@Cynsham hell yuh san antonio 🤟🏼🤟🏼
2.0L turbocharged inline 4 vs 6.2L supercharged V8 LOOOOOOL - yeah beto gonna be having the chill map on for sure
I love beto screaming ooooooooooh in the second race lol 😂 thats what racing is all about
14:33 this part had me dying lol
@Hbn182
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment 🤣🤣
Probably one of the most humorous videos I've seen you guys do. Banter was spot on! Cheers
Dude that camaro looks so fun!
Them both yelling in unison at the end of the second run was hilarious 😂
@MethodOverRide
Жыл бұрын
Monica!!!!!
damn they took the idea. honda vs haters is official also this is some straight fast and furious shit. american muscle and JDM
@jnieto490
Жыл бұрын
Right!?
I loved hearing this guy struggling to breathe as he stands still
Great race!
God damn that camaro is so clean Ondgas really pulling out some of the cleanest cars
I love Beto so much. I instantly knew who he was from the red truck video, one of the best so far. Those guys are awesome, I love their crew, they crack me up. He sandbagged round 2 to win round 3, never been more sure of anything in my life.
@alexbarn3841
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, so impressive to just put a car in drive and mash the pedal. Literally no skill at all.
the Editor haha ..! great job
who ever edits these videos deserve every dollar!!!
3:15 I love the honesty. "How much weight do you think you took out?" - "Not much. When you run out of things to do, you start doing dumb shit."
Damn thats another close-ass race 😮💨👍 These last couple of videos has been fucking fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Man it’s so good to see Dan again shiiiet
Gotta admit the Honda Civic Type R has some serious top end pull !! Great race !! Great sportsmanship by both owner class act ….👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@NEALMOHANFUCKSKIDS
6 ай бұрын
The new type r le topped out at like 187 stock
The energy Suppy and Gary bring is unmatched lol
As always, much love and praise to the shreditors! You guys are truly delightful and killing the game.
Been following on the gas for years from FL dudes kill it with their builds
Damn good racing there!
The Eddie Guerrero part had me 💀
That was a great match up. Keep'em coming. Definitely one of my favorite car series on KZread.
That was a great set of races
this is probably my favorite guest no cap, his first truck was nice
Loving this series, keep up the great match ups
The wittiness, humor, and editing is always on point. Awesome matchup as well.
The ooooooOOOO with Dan and ondgas was to good 😂
Congrats on a billion views 🧨🧨🧨
This is just pure smiles per hour footage. comedy value is a 10 alone! love these videos, and yeah he was 100% telling porkies. keep it up guys.
The editor is the real winner today 😆 had me rolling 🤣 😂
@brianmessemer2973
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“Not a chance 😁” 😂
I love both these guys
Those last two races were epic
2nd race had Dan & the Texas dude having a "MOOOOONNNIIIICCCAAAAAA!!!" moment there LOL! Keep up the good work Hoonigans! Epic content!!!!!!!
Huge Fan of OnDGas and I was waiting for this episode thanks Hoonigan Team your channel is the best…
Great race
Amazing both cars
how much titanium do you want, him: YES!
@-tarificpromo-7196
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Hector pulled into Harry’s, ordered three of everything. This guy’s running a Honda 2000. Don’t do it Jesse, he’s got more than hundred grand under that hood. Too soon?
@smartgorilla
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enough to outweigh the belly...
@-tarificpromo-7196
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@@smartgorilla literally sandbagging
@jsrengines
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Easily another 2K of Ti added since this video
Man the banter between the camaro guy and the hoonigan crew is great :D
Love that race 🏁
their reaction to getting passed @ 14:16 was straight outta an 80s movie
Brilliant both great builds, lovely to see Dan back. You guys rock