My Dad was the first National Sales Manager for the Vermeer baler group. He and I purchased the 13th baler ever built. We bought it used after it caught fire and the belts all burned. I was 16 at the time and did enough custom baling to afford the upgraded series baler 2 years later. I was on the cover of the Sept 1974 issue of Successful Farming with our 1650 Oliver and the shiny new baler ready to bale cornstalks. I'm still digging the chaff out of my right ear, no cab, always looking backwards.

@myselfremade

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize that corn stalk baling has been going on that long! For bedding, or feed

@greggergen9104

11 ай бұрын

In 1974 we had a stalk chopper head on a John Deere 14T baler. As the guy who stacked the wagon, that was a dirty nasty job. We paid our cousins $.10 a bale for the use of their baler.

Great innovation! Excited to see more of these units being produced. A 4' wide model would be great for many markets.

You have a lot to be proud of with this type of family inventors. 😊😊😊😊😊😊

Loved the show. Reminds me of the Vermeer 50th year anniversary celebration I attended in Pella, IA. Gary Vermeer told the story of the round bailer. Originally they had trouble getting the hay to start rolling the bail which they overcame by dropping a fence post into the bailer. The hay would roll itself around the post. Gary said when springtime came and the snow melted there were fenceposts laying all around the field they fed the cows in.

I would have liked to have seen all the balers from the 1st to the last in this clip

@storminnormanz

Жыл бұрын

it would make a cool video to put the original 1970s baler next to this thing and make a video

I’m sure your grandpa would be proud! Nice idea to tribute the 50 / 50 progress though all the years !!!

My grandpa farrell glen Tharp was the most well know vermeer salesman ever, he was know worldwide at all dealerships, he worked at the kilgore Texas store for 30 years and he could sale a farm tractor to a dentist without question. He was good freinds with gary vermeer and was given a brand new 40ft gooseneck and a rolex watch for working there so long. When I was 13 years old he told me that he had been personally ask by vermeer to test drive a prototype self propelled bailer. That is what hard work can get you folks

That is a nice machine. Hard to believe. Thank you.

if you're going to have the expense of a self propelled baler it needs to be a non-stop baler with an accumulator and probably a wrapper as well

@andrewjones-productions

3 жыл бұрын

Which is why I think the McHale baler/wrapper is still the better option.

@deernutOO

3 жыл бұрын

The extra expense of that non-stop baler would be considerable, compared to the one demonstrated. Think Malcom missed the point of the video. 50 bales in 50 minutes.

@gumelini1

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewjones-productions you mean Krone?

Why did you have to run through all the different generations so quickly at the end???? It would be awesome to see their full transformation.

@rallyscoot

3 жыл бұрын

Thats happen when you design a quick baler.. Everything goes a lot faster.

@manuelj3313

3 жыл бұрын

0.25x

@robmalkin6863

3 жыл бұрын

you can slow down the video if that helps

@dfarmer_

3 жыл бұрын

@@robmalkin6863 Helps some, but even at 0.25 it's too fast

@farmboysteve3295

2 жыл бұрын

Pause the video…🤦🏽‍♂️

Very cool bailer and video production. Congrats on your anniversary and incredible AG company innovation over your history.

Hey team, the flip pics from 2:44 to 2:50 should be a show unto itself, showing progression of models, maybe a min each for years produced, new innovation on that model, etc thanks

Came long ways in 50 yrs. I run a 605g Vermeer. Going to be completely rebuilt this winter. When time comes I'll have a brand new Vermeer round baler

@zfilmmaker

3 жыл бұрын

Vermeer/Lely is the way to go... 504 and 604 Pro’s are well proven. I like that Massey sells the exact balers (from Lely) so you buy parts from whoever is cheaper/closer. I own two 504 Pro’s, one that’s a few years old and the other I got last year. I bale 6k acres and have very little issues if not any.

Farm equipment has always been amazing. For everything a farmer does, someone has gone and said "i bet i could make something to make this easier and faster".

Interesting. I am an Aussie farmer, have owned and operated a 512i since 1995, still goes well.

Nice job Ken !!

I just baught my first round baler the other day 605G hasn't been used in 10 year we drove it home greased it up looked for shot bearings. Found non next day took it out and made 25 bales with my 49 hp tractor.

Baller burst into flames !!!!!!

Y’all make great equipment 👍👍

God bless you sir

Great machine 😁

The first round baler was built by Allis Chalmers we had one 65 years ago

GREAT VIDEO!!! 🔝🟩⬛️🟦🟥🟩⬛️🟦🟥👏🏻🔝🔝

Congratulations on your invention 👍🙂🙂

Need to add continuous bailing so you never have to stop

@bopete6505

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. If you build a machine like this, that should have been requirement #1.

@john34261

3 жыл бұрын

if they did that i am sure they can increase the speed a little bit too but not too much becouse guality is still needed

@ericturner4850

2 жыл бұрын

its called a square bailer

@john34261

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericturner4850 wouldn't it be mechanically diffecult to make it like this self propelled round baller? especially if driven with some speed?

@ericturner4850

2 жыл бұрын

i just mean bailing with a regular square bailer you dont stop

You should look into what the guys over at Vicon are doing. Their two-stage baler can produce round bales without stopping. Imagine how many bales you would have gotten if you didn't have to stop to unload.

That was Awesome

I did 40 bales in 40 minutes with a 5x5 Vermeer in 1978. Only happened once!

Not bad for someone that doesn't drive a baler everyday!!

@cowwhisperer8927

3 жыл бұрын

Guess he practiced a bit 😄

@Nanstar0k

3 жыл бұрын

They are so intuitive now, the driver mostly just monitors the steering wheel and is trying not to eat all the snacks in the first hour.

@samuelsutton8299

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nanstar0k that's just farming in general. I find during seeding or harvest when I have 16+ hour days I have no food left in the cab after 9am

@mp40submachinegun81

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelsutton8299 this is the biggest problem with modern agriculture.

@antreaskonstantinou8585

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelsutton8299 16 hours nonstop? Thats insane both for you and the machine

Krone Made a record with 149 bales in one hours 🤔

@timpolig416

2 жыл бұрын

Aber alle drosseln raus genommen, das würde die Presse nicht lange durch halten

@brenttonks4249

Жыл бұрын

I had a Krone VP1500MC and in 2010 I was consistently pushing 58 Five foot round bales of Oaten hay out of her in an hour. They were like bricks too none of those light bales some guys make. Would of cracked 60 an hour but I just pushed a little too hard and blocked the pick up everytime I tried. Also running 3.5 laps of net when binding. Anything less they would just burst the net when the chamber pressure came off the bale. What model of Krone set that record and what size were the bales? I switched from Krone to McHale and never looked back, however the new Krones look like they could be a pretty good baler!

@swissix4947

Жыл бұрын

​@@brenttonks4249Size idk but the model should be the Ultima.

@areman8465.

11 ай бұрын

Problably with a square bailer

@fendtclaas8689

11 ай бұрын

That's nothing compared to Kuhn. I made a bale every 23 seconds once. That's 156 bales in one hour.

This would be cool to see on the next Farming Simulator game

The round baler preceded 50 years ago. My grandpa had an AC round baler that I think came from the 40s. I think Vermeer expanded the bale over previous round bales, but it’s not accurate to say Vermeer “invented” the round baler.

@shawnklemm1532

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Technically Allis Chalmers was the first round baler and also continuous round baler also but small size.

@huntersatterfield6656

3 жыл бұрын

That’s not what they are saying, they are saying that Vermeer as a company started making round balers 50 years ago

@Nick-B78

3 жыл бұрын

@@huntersatterfield6656 no, he literally starts he video by saying Gary Vermeer invented the round baler which is clearly not true.

@bradshultz8385

3 жыл бұрын

@@huntersatterfield6656 Not sure what you mean by”that’s not what they are saying.” Vermeer man said his grandfather “invented “ the round baler.

@johnmcintyre800

3 жыл бұрын

Hawk and allison that made the first small round baler Vemerr the first large round baler Allischambers were making small rounds as well before vemerr INVENTED the round baler

Good job

I think that you have to admit that Allis-Chalmers invented the round baler many years before that. However they were not as large as the Vermeer bales.

Back around 1972 an old man said to me that he'd see a field by my house baled with a " machine that made round bales" just after the war. Which came from Germany. Now that's going to be far more than 50 years ago.

@tractorman129

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Allis-Chalmers was building round balers in 1947, and had produced nearly 70,000 units by the time they ceased production in 1960, 12 years before Vermeer "invented" it. Although A-C produced it in 1947, the round baler had originally been conceived around 1910 by a fellow named Ummo Luebben.

@bustersmith5569

2 жыл бұрын

@@tractorman129 TY 👍,,, I've seen the AC baler your refuring to,,,,

@robertteap8052

11 ай бұрын

​Yep.... I was born '53 and from a very early age I can remember round bales of Hay for winter cattle feed.. Indeed they were smaller, baled by an Allis-Chambers baler, called proto-bales, and a quick Google check says that baler started production run in 1947...so to say that his grandfather "invented" the round bale, no, re-worked it's design, maby.

@doct0rnic

13 күн бұрын

Vermeer invented the LARGE round baler

Great job cool baler!

I’m curious as to whether you have any of these machines in Australia?

Wow a bale every minute!

That was cool

sehr gut diese maschine möchte gerne mehr auskunft

We need this in uk

Totally amazing.

It's nice when you are not chasing Grass!! Are those 2 windrows from a 16ft swather??

Since when did they have balers than you could drive either way this is awesome

Nice CLAAS cab

A low-key company that doesn't want to be a big brother, Wittmann is the best

50 bales does not say much. It also depends on how large they are and how dense they are packed.

@30jakeb

2 жыл бұрын

as well as how good the crop is makes a huge difference

@tyler58701

2 жыл бұрын

2:04 should give an indication as she's leaning against one.

@desross2002

9 ай бұрын

this model makes only 5 x 6 bales. So around 2000 lbs. The main difference in achieving this goal is imo the size of the field. Less times your turn around in the end of the row the more efficient it is

Cool machinery. We struggle to cut, tett and rake everything in time.m in concert with the weather and curing. Usually I’m raking while the baler “Chases the rabbit.”

Please make a video of all of the generations of baler design

But a damn nice machine 👏

Neat machine. Like a zero turn lawnmower's big brother, lol.

We need these on farm sim

I did this twenty years ago with a 7810 and a 535 net wrap

@guy1704

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. My dad and I have been able to bale 60 bales a hour with a 7510 and starting with a 566 and up to a 560M. If it was good hay and smooth field the only thing that would break the 60 bales a hour was stop and change net wrap.

@raystoner5361

3 жыл бұрын

140 HP tractor and John Deere 469 Sileage baler in moderate windrows. A bale every 57 seconds. But I will be going back to Vermeer for my next baler due to poor customer service from John Deere.

@LucendsRanch

3 жыл бұрын

@@guy1704 We ran a 566 silage special on a 4255 JD. Awesome balers. The heaviest bales we did were 5ft 3rd cut Alfalfa 60% moisture. And the pick up kept up at 6mph.

Did the netting last for 50 bales?

That’s nice all in all. Come to my farm in Western Pennsylvania and see how many round bales you make in an hour with all the hills.

Might look good in this video but we had a demo on 2 of these units running against 569 John Deere premium balers that were one year old and the zr5 did just as many bales as our John Deere did. This was in cornstalks on mile long rows. Yes the zr5 was maybe way more comfortable and better ride but spending 250k on a baler just doesent seem feasible

@jamesbarbour8400

Жыл бұрын

Really like the concept of a self propelled Round Baler, but yeah quarter of a million bucks is definitely hard to justify.

@lnpipeline3306

11 ай бұрын

@@jamesbarbour8400 in 30 years, I might be able to justify buying a used one. I can’t wait! Vermeer certainly does make good stuff, though. Currently running a 605N, and baled the whole season without one breakdown.

another Dutch invention i didn't know about!

please tell me how much diesel consumption do you have per acre or per tons of straw baled?

Why on earth is this machine not a continuous round baler. In fact if I remember correctly Vermeer already had a continuous baler, what happened!

@mesh1248

2 жыл бұрын

The continuous round baler is still in the prototype stage I believe they’re 2 of them sitting near Stratford Ontario being worked on

@chevyon37s

2 жыл бұрын

So they can sell you this one, and then sell you the continuous version when they come out with it....

@WolfPaw1997

2 жыл бұрын

Krone has a very good continuous baler with great baledensity even at high speed called Krone Ultima

I run a 2656a with twine. The fastest bale I’ve made is 2 minutes with my average closer to three minutes. A bale a minute is impressive

What size is the bale tho. 4x5, 5x5 or a 5x6?

bravo

Vermeer Wuz Here !

Now if you can get your drills to do 500ft in 50 minutes!!

@Trythis837

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

Now if it could wrap and drop while picking up the next bale. Continuous, 100 per hour?

Hope to own one someday sure can't afford one in a drought though oh well life happens

Allis-chalmers made the first round baler in 1947

What size are the bales?

Allis Chalmers produced the Roto-baler in the 1950’s

@martingardener90

3 жыл бұрын

I think they should claim to have built the first successful large round baler to define it from the Allis. One thing though - the Allis didn't have AC!

@markymark1796

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and I believe that roto-baler would have been hard pressed to make fifty bales in fifty minutes.

@csil2863

3 жыл бұрын

AC purchased the small round baler from Nebraska farmer Ummo F. Luebben who developed the round baler in 1910. I have asked why Allis did not see the need to develop the large round baler. Nevertheless, Vermeer did and revolutionized haymaking!

The hay team need 1

cool > looks really nice and probably to expensive for a small operator like me

what is the weight of the bale

And I baled 60 bales in an hour with a 568 jd and an old Duetz tractor 🤷🏼‍♂️. These SP Vermeers are supposed to be really impressive. I'd really like one but if they can't well out preform a tractor then what's the point.

@stefanwipf85

11 ай бұрын

Did the same with A kubota bv4580 and the bales where rock hard

Good job, but you left some hay in the field in another 30 minutes you’d have been finished. Just kidding good equipment

2:02 I counted 42 (including the one in the machine And also at the last frame before it cut over to the one on the ground with the walkie-talkie

My rekord is Lely RP 180v xtra 64 bales on hour , straw wheat , size 180.

What’s the bale weight?

Allis Chalmers Roto Baler was years before.

I am a Vermeer fan but there isn’t much Vermeer representation in my area, currently running Deere 🤮 and can easily role up a bale a minute at nearly 10 mph! Plus your bales don’t look to be 6’ tall. You’ve got to do better if representing the Vermeer brand and a machine with a price tag that a machine like that will fetch!! I have a 605c that can keep up with your machine and it’s over 30 years old!! Keep up the good work with the brand.

Почему вы не делаете 2х камерный пресс? Чтобы он не останавливался

I wonder how fast the Vicon Fastbale could be.

Does Kendra come with it? Sign me up!

I’d want to demo one if it was a 4ft baler

What type a cabin sits on this, or do they make their own??

@swissix4947

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like an cabine of an Claas Xerion.

Price ?

1: Vermeer did not invent the round baler. There were others including Allis Chalmers roto baler well before Vermeer ever produced a baler. 2: Your bales are not full size 6 foot bales, anyone who’s baled a decent amount of hay can see that from the video. 3: Many other manufacturers have been able to accomplish 60 full size 5x6 hard core bales in 60 minutes with tractor and baler combinations that still cost less than your sp model.

@YourMom-ro1ig

3 жыл бұрын

Facts over feelings, way to lay it out Mr. Logel. Laying down the 📠

What happened to the continuous round baler?

A mchale fusion 3 can a make and wrap a bale in just under a minute

been there done that done that massey

Gary Vermeer did not invent the round baler, he invented the "MODERN" Round Baler, which is two separate things, the modern round baler is characterised by using belts to shape the ball

My neighbor bales 4x5 at 9 mph and I've seen him average a bale every 48 sec in heavy wind row. incredible!! With a JD

@davidlogel2350

3 жыл бұрын

A 4x5 bale is less than half the size of a 5x6.

@tylermallory2504

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidlogel2350 math is hard!

@davidlogel2350

3 жыл бұрын

@@tylermallory2504 if you know, you know, and you don’t know. 🤷‍♂️

@tylermallory2504

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidlogel2350 so you're telling me a 5x6 out weighs a 4x5 by more than 50%?

@tylermallory2504

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidlogel2350 it's a 35-40% increase no matter how you look at it. LoL

Сколько стоит такой?

Can you do square with that

I do a bale a minute with our Krone Comprima V 180 XC with knives up. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@johnanderson2451

3 жыл бұрын

I bet it is more affordable too

@LucendsRanch

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnanderson2451 Oh yes! I don’t understand the self propelled baler concept. Kinda cool but you’d better be doing a ton of custom baling a year to make it pay.

@johnanderson2451

3 жыл бұрын

@@LucendsRanch a lot of custom baling, you can only use it for one thing, you can’t even feed with it

Wait your bet wrap ties every time? Couldn’t relate our 404 pro loves giving us net issues

@hankelrod7315

Жыл бұрын

Check your knife, that’s usually the problem. Also use net wrap that doesn’t stretch as it cuts cleaner & gives fewer problems. I use the cheap red white & blue net in my 404 - works better than any of the expensive net & is easier to remove.

@conortimm733

Жыл бұрын

@@hankelrod7315 we actually got the red white and blue stuff too! Sometimes we have issues with it on the first few bales but it’s been working really good for us overall

@conortimm733

Жыл бұрын

@@hankelrod7315 we switched to that mid last summer, can’t see us using anything else in that baler with how it’s been working

Вся проблема в буфере, почему нет промежуточного хранилища? Сделайте буфер для сбора,что бы машина не стояла. The whole problem is in the buffer, why is there no intermediate storage? Make a buffer for collection so that the car is not standing.

How much is one of those bad boys ?

Not bat,but the claas rolland 44 from the 1990s that l drove did 70 boots in 60 minutes in net.

👍👍😊

Great machine except it needs to hold bales so you can dump all your bales in a group...