Special thanks to our Patreons for their support of the channel! GR Corolla or Civic Type R?

@teddygunzbarno2102

2 ай бұрын

Type R and Gr and GTI are way to much money if u want a bang for your buck WRX all day I got so tired of listening to this guy complaining

@DylanMorehouse

Ай бұрын

I love both but I’m gonna go GR Rolla!

@arnewolz7043

Ай бұрын

Grolla is way more interesting. Honestly you guys must have a heavy foot cause I get high 20s MPG even low thirties most of the time. I just drove 20 mins home even hitting 100 on the highway and I still got 29mpg.

I think the funniest part of this video is he thinks his M340i wouldn't get buried by the GR Corolla on a track without a ton of long straightaways.

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

This week we took teh BMW to the track and I concede I may have been wrong - we're working on trying to get the GRolla back to set a time

@anthonykiedis1765

2 ай бұрын

Unless it's a very specific track that favors the GRC, that M340i is going to be wayyyy faster

@dwnshft

2 ай бұрын

@@anthonykiedis1765 it’s a small, tight autocross style track

@f82dot

18 күн бұрын

In his defense, he did call the intercooler the radiator lol! I just got my GRC Circuit 10 days ago, chose it over a 2023 M3 with 1,400 miles. I love the M but just sold my M4 about a year ago and wanted something different and didn’t want a $90k car with the insane interest rates right now. I’ve had every chassis of the M3/M4 from E36-Current unfortunately haven’t got my hands on a E30 M3 yet. But this GRC Circuit is one of my favorite and best driving cars ever. May not be as fast or “flashy” but damn is it soooo good. It’s purpose built and I love it, everything you need and nothing you don’t. Great experience so far for my first Toyota!

Aftermarket arms rests are available and are pretty cheap!

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

oh nice!

@TellenJones

3 ай бұрын

Finally a sporty powerful hatchback. Glad to see Toyota picks up what Subaru WRX abandoned.

The load floor is high due to the strut based rear suspension on all Corolla models including the normal hatchbacks. It was part of the plan to improve the handling dynamics with this generation of Corolla. They moved the battery pack to the rear due to the intake and engine placement with the 3 cylinder.

“I can’t get it to step out” Drive it like a rental brother - show us what it can do

re: highway fuel economy, the gearing isn't tall enough. sadly that's true of a lot of manual trans cars these days. if this car were hovering closer to 2k rpms @ 75-80mph, the mpg would improve significantly.

As an owner of a 23 CE for almost a year now couple items to note. 1) The MPG's you achieve seem odd to me. I have been able to get close to 350 miles per tank on average when driving the car mixed city and highway with some spirited driving as well. When in sport and spent driving hard, I can see about 250 miles per tank, which is still pretty good for an AWD turbo. 2) The center armrest is really not an issue or problem at all. Once you own and daily drive it, you realize you never need it or have your arm resting in that area. Like others have mentioned there are aftermarket quick/cheap and simple solution if you really want one. 3) I think there is a misconception from many people/journalists thinking in 30/70 torque split the car should kick out. It's not the case at all. The 30/70 rear bias torque split is just meant to provide a more rear bias torque direction when going through corners, while staying planted. Not necessarily to kick loose and drift. This car is meant to be planted on and off track. In snow and dirt/gravel you can definitely get the rear to kick out and have fun there. Nice review overall, cheers!

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

thanks for the note! yes, it certainly seems to be the overwhelming consensus that our observed fuel economy was an outlier Have you taken yours on track? if so have you experienced any overheating with the GR Four system?

@NEMotoGuy

3 ай бұрын

@@dwnshft Not yet actually. I do have my free one year NASA track day from Toyota, coming up soon. I plan to test it out then. From what I have been hearing from owners on the overheating issue. It's the rear diff sensor that gets overheated due to placement right next to the exhaust pipe. Also, only really occurs during 30/70 spilt with more heat/stress on the rear diff. When I upgraded my exhaust I ended up wrapping the sensor with gold reflecting plating just in case. I have pushed the car on back roads with no issue, but that obviously isn't as harsh as full constant track driving. We shall see. Cheers!

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

@@NEMotoGuy I’m interested to hear how it does!

@HALOCRAFT3568

2 ай бұрын

Iv gotten super good fuel economy in my 2023 so that fuel economy on the video makes no sense to me

@liudxdx

2 ай бұрын

Big fact, I have one and I get at least 31 mpg on the high way. Another big fact went to a 3.3k miles roadtrip without the arm rest. Didn’t bother me

Maybe this will get read or not but 🤷🏽‍♂️my two cents as a GRC owner with 11k miles: 🤔 car is an absolute underrated beast. It claims to be a “track” car but not really…..to be used also in the hwy. In reality you get a track car for the hwy. Yes it is small lol totally agree with what you said on the interior. But where it lacks in interior design and space it gets totally compensated by driving experience. If you are (for those drivers that know what i mean) an experienced swimmer through hwy traffic then this car man is a secret weapon. Disguised with a corolla badge 🤣. I have pushed the car to its top speed and taking curves at double or triple digit numbers and it just eats it all up. Swimming through traffic at 11 mph, 12 mph, 13…. Amazing performance. The car is not meant to be cruised at in the 70s for that buy a regular corolla S. I have taken it on a 2 hr trip with all smiles and a 7 hr trip and those were the most 7 engaging hrs! that keeps you awake with a smile. Thats why so many enthusiasts/collectors were paying the mark ups. The car was not meant to compete with the M340 lol in a straight line nope not no 0-60 not no 0-100. You dont wanna clutch dump it. But in a hwy(especially with curves) in an experienced driver’s hands that GRC will easily outtake the bmw due to its size and power to ratio to fit between other cars. And the fact that a corolla 🤣 can keep up with the big boys in a hwy with curves or traffic is jaw dropping lol who wouldve ever thought you’d see a corolla passing you by at 120-130 🤣

I have a deposit for a Circuit Edition that's due in a few weeks. I'm glad you reviewed it. It will be a fun all-weather daily. I'm glad Toyota built this.... hopefully Mazda will step up too

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

enjoy your car, it's a blast!

@jujubean7772

3 ай бұрын

Ay I've got a deposit down too! Can't wait to get mine, hope you don't have to wait too long!

@timw2083

3 ай бұрын

@@jujubean7772 congrats to you too 🥳 Toyota with an awd, manual, hatchback... perfect daily

@Bikerboi

3 ай бұрын

Mazda actually has a hatch. Mazda3 awd 2.5 turbo. Automatic though. Not at sporty as the grc but it's got a decent amount of tq. 250hp 320tq

@timw2083

3 ай бұрын

@@Bikerboi Yeap, that Mazda looks pretty good on paper. Two hatch generations ago, Mazda had a Speed3 option and it was a beast.

GR the most fun, the Golf R the most comfortable and the Type R the most fast :) Depending on surface of course

Live in Canada and I went with the Integra Type S. I've never felt the absolute need to get AWD and as you stated the Type R platform is a better all rounder if you don't care as much about losing the back end, the Type R and ITS will walk the GR Corolla and feel more powerful in most scenarios besides a dead stop or slow turns. I enjoy the creature comforts and nicer interior space of the ITS as well with the extra insolation and huge cargo space, I was considering a Golf R as well but it doesn't feel as special of a car which I do value when spending over $50,000 on a daily commuter. Great Video, I enjoy watching this series!

Odd about what you saw for MPG. Just over 2000 miles on my 24 premium and I am seeing 27-28mpg average. Mixed city and hwy.

For me it came down to the GR Corolla having AWD, heated seats, a heated steering wheel, and a real hand brake, which the Civic Type R had none of these things. I added an armrest and I didn't want a Circuit Edition as I didn't care about the CF roof, the hood, or the alcantara seats. I've had way too many GR86 owners tell me they hate the alcantara seats and that they are so hot in the summer. I actually prefer the cloth seats of my loaded 2023 Core as they are cool in the summer, will hold up better, and are much easier to clean. I'm concerned about the main bits, and mechanically my loaded Core is exactly the same as the Circuit Edition. I absolutely love my 23 GRC and it doesn't have the nasty looking parking sensors that the 24 models have! And just FYI, it's called Blue Flame, not Blue Flair. You sure love it, personally, I think it's the worst looking color on the GRC.

Haha! It's sticking. I've been pushing the name "Grolla" for months. TheGrolla has been my insta for months. Nissan may have Godzilla, but Toyota has King Kong, AKA the "Grolla." Now go get yourself a decent pitch stop mount and some shifter linkage bushings. You'll feel so much better about the shift feel then (no more missing)... And when you find yourself in low traction conditions. You're feelings about traction will change. The Grolla was made for the wild. I'm setting up for wet traction in the PNW. So far, I'm impressed.

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

GRRRRRRolla

I definitely agree with the Focus RS comparison. The stuff about it compromising with the interior I’ve heard near exact same criticisms from old videos about the RS. This car really feels like it’s a spiritual successor to the RS and even the old WRX hatch, but in Toyota’s own take on things of course.

The MPG is very interesting to me because multiple other people have reported to easily get upwards of 30mpg and toyota's specs are 21 city and 28 highway

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

it did snow for a day and rain half the week so maybe low temps had something to do with it but yeah we averaged about 21 combined

@GR_Papi

3 ай бұрын

17.4 for me mostly city driving tho. I can see it getting 30 if you live where there is no hills 😂or all fwy driving

@justpeachee8964

3 ай бұрын

I get 27 all highway at 75 -80 in mine sooooo

@jujubean7772

3 ай бұрын

@Doomz87 oh wow, geez, if you don't mind what state or country you live in? Is it high altitudes?

@jujubean7772

3 ай бұрын

@justpeachee8964 yea see that makes more sense. I should be getting mine sometime soon hopefully so I'll have to see when I get it.

Did you pull the ebrake to get the rear end loose?

@user-sn1lu5yi6r

2 ай бұрын

Why in the fuck do you want to do that ??? If you could actually afford one, why would you do that to your $45,000 vehicle ?? If so, you're an idiot.

Is this a preproduction car? The two vents in front looked blocked off, and one of the changes from 23 to 24 is to the ducts to allow the airflow to work with the Circuit wing.

Test drove this and the Fk8/ Fl5 Type R coming from a wrx. The CTR was more impressive from the interior and driving experience. The trunk space was a massive bonus. Went with the FL5 type r and have no regrets.

@dwnshft

22 күн бұрын

excellent choice

I wish they made the circuit edition in grey or matte grey like they did the morizo edition. I think that matte grey is by far the best look on this car

Any GRC owners in here? How are you guys liking the car so far? The car gets a lot of flack, but I've loved every moment of driving it.

@breaks_n_stuff4049

3 ай бұрын

GRP owner here. Loving every minute and I’m glad I’m not a tool like all the other Honda of vw owners.

@zedzillar349

3 ай бұрын

Being honest bro this car is a beast 💪🏼

@Yahmomma

3 ай бұрын

Its a fun car like you said i love every moment its engaging. the flack is inevitable with a new enthusiast car.

@TrojanRabbit521

3 ай бұрын

Most every enthusiast car catches some flack. Like people every car has flaws (character) and isn’t perfect. Also each driver finds different sensations ‘fun’. For me it’s being under 3000 lbs. I caught SO much crap driving an Abarth in the south. Don’t care I was so entertained. Now in BRZ but muscle car guys call me slow. So as long as YOU enjoy your car don’t worry about flak. Just learn to give it back.

@DBX79

3 ай бұрын

@@TrojanRabbit521 That’s true. The biggest thing I’m seeing lately is people keep asking me if I can fit in the car because I’m almost 6’3. But, I still love driving it.

I'm in love with this car!

21 mpg on high way??? What did you do? I have one and I get 31 mph easily, and if I let cruise control do the work it can go up to 33 34 mph

I work currently at amazon and also go to school. What’s better to get if you had to choose between gr86 or the gr corolla? Or should I just buy a car after I graduate

@greatnova3329

2 ай бұрын

Never driver any of those two but it dependen on your budget and if you know how to drive manual

@Maksymilion11

2 ай бұрын

Miata

@sofia-pi9pr

2 ай бұрын

gr corolla has better mpg and awd while also being sporty. i have a gr86 but would much prefer a corolla just because of it’s more expansive abilities

@gatnukez7238

2 ай бұрын

wait till you graduate!!!

@DylanMorehouse

Ай бұрын

It really depends on what you want. Some of the biggest differences are 1) coupe vs hatch 2) rwd vs AWD 3) 228 vs 300 hp 4) turbo vs NA. Both awesome cars just depends on what you like and the type of driving you plan to do

My main complaint is that the differential clutch pack overheats when tracked for 15 minutes... I agree with the comments on fuel economy and car battery placement. Toyota should have left the battery in the front to allow the ability to have a temp spare for an emergency flat tire. The 6th gear could have been made taller, reducing engine rpms and improving fuel economy for the highway.

Have my GR Circuit coming this week! I was thinking of putting the shittiest tires on the wheels and getting the car loose.

I remember when this car was first rumored people thought that it was a pipe dream that it would never happen…. I have no complaints. Thank you, Toyota .

Battery to the trunk is worth it. If they didn't do it I would (I moved it in my S3). It handles great, but its all understeer... Stiffer rear swaybar and some different springs should handle that. The poor fuel economy is a surprise, so far I'm getting around 10mpg in town but its brand new. I got great mileage in my highly modified S3. Golf R makes more sense and is a much nicer car, but this is more raw fun, makes all kinds of amusing noises and the total grip on stock tires is quite impressive - Its like a teenager modified a stock Corolla.

All cons I’ve seen all over the internet ain’t really cons tbh. They just be describing the difference in the cars character. Also she’s rally based y’all! Have some fun!! XD

If i had to choice this or the last focus RS imma go ford. Especially love the generation of focus that had a i4 cut from a v8 mustang or it was a coyote 4 cylinders variation

This is actually so helpful, as I'm looking to get this car. I live in Colorado and I want something practical, but fun as well. Thank you for doing this video! I might go with the Ice Cap though hahaha

@soulsick410

Ай бұрын

Best CO car. I can't wait until winter this year.

@dgw4erhouse

25 күн бұрын

@@soulsick410 so glad to hear! I just bought mine yesterday. Technically 23 tho

It's blue flame, not flare lol. The MPGs ya'll were getting arent typical. Around town, i get mid to high 20s and low 30s on the highway.

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

that's what i keep hearing, but i gotta report on what i experience

Everyone knocks on the interior being cheap and basic, but this is really a race car and that’s how race cars should be. More people should review this car based on the goal of the car rather than comparing it to comfort cars.

I think the 300hp range N55/B58 straight 6 is super efficient in comparison. Even my 9yr old 4k lb 535i gets 32mpg granny mode to 75mph over 120mi round trip. Maybe 25mpg Sport mode but yikes 20mpg I'd sell it.

I don't know how i do it, but for just highway headed home from work (25 miles which 20 are highway) i average 27 mpg in comfort mode. I don't get how you're barely getting 21. Hmm weird

Im just curious about reliability and longevity? 1.6l with 300hp and tons of boost sounds like it might not last more than 100k without issue.

@dwnshft

22 күн бұрын

savagegeese has one and are documenting ownership so you could check their series out, maybe that'll help

@diallo1347

22 күн бұрын

@@dwnshft Thanks for the tip!

How hard to move the battery under the hood

@kengit2

14 күн бұрын

Why would you want to do that?

I’m surprised about the MPG. Not that it matters but I expected more from a small displacement engine

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

so did i!

@DM72513

3 ай бұрын

I've easily gotten 28-30mpg highway. Dude was probably going crazy fast.

@justpeachee8964

3 ай бұрын

@@DM72513same and I daily mine on highway going 80 so he’s smoking

@tinhinnh

2 ай бұрын

performance engines dont get good mpg’s.. even small ones 😊

You forgot about the focus rs the best out of all of them

I like the seats

Sir review a 1965 f100 that still runs with the 240 i6. Then come back to this.

I just want a car company that makes a pure sports car. Really fine tuned engine that squeezes out all the hp of that engine. Real carbon fiber to save weight. Strong body with extra wielding. Only manuel transmission. Really focused on the drive and not useless fluff. Hell if they take out the backseats that would be better.

@dwnshft

2 ай бұрын

Porsche. You’re looking for a Porsche

My lifted 4runner almost gets the same mpg. I'm shocked.

self driving is kool went 100 miles lol

Regarding the arm rest: youre supposed to drive with both hands wink wink

How DF are you getting 20-21mpg, layoff the heavy pedal. I drive 80-90mph on the highway and still can get 28mpg.

@dwnshft

2 ай бұрын

🤷‍♂️idk man send help 😅

I wish Toyota would have just made it a turbo 4 with 400 hp ...missed opportunity 😑

@dropdeadkid6966

3 күн бұрын

Funny u said that from what I hear and researched, just get a Miata over this.

its strange how other colors also get the Blue trimmed shift knob. Looks out of place.

Blue *flame* paint. It's blue flame.

Apparently people aren't aware of the dealer markup. No way on earth would I pay $50k+ for this car.

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

dont pay markups!

@adamn389

2 ай бұрын

I agree...never pay more than msrp. Use car shopping websites to find good dealers with no markup and print out internet pricing. Dealer must honor the price...otherwise it is false advertising which is illegal.

Acura Integra Type S

I have this car. The piano black plastics are horrible, wipe the dust off with anything like a hoodie sleeve and it scratches to shit.

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

😖

@PaintflowException

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, my CTR feels MUCH more premium interior wise. And after tracking my CTR, the seating position of the GRC is like a crossover. Someone needs to come up with lower seat rails.

@camarogoskrrrt3534

2 ай бұрын

@@PaintflowException CTR is also 10k more. Whereas I paid 41k out the door for a fully loaded GRC.

@PaintflowException

2 ай бұрын

​@@camarogoskrrrt3534I'm talking Circuit Edition compared CTR. They're the same MSRP and a lot of places sold at the same markup.

There is nothing childish about wanting your car to make sweet noises. At least imho. If cars making noise is childish, drive an EV 💀😂 jk good video

I avarege 19mpgs on a turbo Mazda 😂

the Car would be amazing with a 2 L Turbo 320 HP, 7 speed wet clutch DCT, carbon parts inside, bucket seats, alcantara roof inside and a alcantara steering wheel with a 12 o´clock mark.

@ericpromisco2213

3 ай бұрын

So, it would be amazing if it was a completely different car? The 3 cylinder is what makes this special and stand out. There are plenty of 4 popper turbos out there to choose from already. From your wish list, it sounds like the Golf R would suit you better.

@KN-jw7ts

2 ай бұрын

I really really hope you’re joking?

4:30 20-21 mpg highway? I call bullshit unless you were at 85+ mph the whole trip and flooring it nonstop. Easily got 28-30 mpg on my way home from the dealer (350 mile return trip).

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

idk what to tell you man, that;s what we got. It was cold and it did rain most of the week and it snowed one day, but that's what we got.

@DM72513

3 ай бұрын

@@dwnshft Well I own one and get 21.5 mpg only driving it around town. Just saying.

@dwnshft

3 ай бұрын

@@DM72513 look man I believe you 😅 but I have to report on my experience and my real-world observations

Just built your own car bro..

Turbo charged and all-wheel-drive, awesome! It’s just too bad the car is really ugly.

Good effort but Overpriced car!

The color is nice but I don’t think it really works on this or it’s best color. The launch color of this car whatever red it is, looks nest, and imo I think the blue focus rs is maybe the best looking hot hatch outside the golf r then this

@tinhinnh

2 ай бұрын

dunno man, this color suits this car the best

@dnice362

2 ай бұрын

@@tinhinnh not this car, imo

@tinhinnh

2 ай бұрын

@@dnice362”imo” is right

No arm rest? Lost alot of interest. Arm rest is a must. I had nice.volvo truck but didnt have an arm rest i wouldnt drive it. Arm rest is important esp long trips

@breaks_n_stuff4049

3 ай бұрын

SXTH makes a perfect armrest and it runs $119. Stop whining

@andrewbeard5846

2 ай бұрын

@@breaks_n_stuff4049 they also have some cheap ebay knockoffs for around &40

@AbleMable

2 ай бұрын

​@@breaks_n_stuff4049fine, but why doesn't Toyota make an armrest? Some weird decisions on their part with this car. The stupid battery placement being the biggest gripe, and no armrest, and the dashboard design that basically makes the car feel so cramped. I had a fiesta ST previously, and that car felt so much more roomy inside, which says a lot 🤭 ....Yes, I'm angry, LOL, if it wasn't for the interior feeling so cramped, my wife would have been fine with a GRC I had a deposit on 😆

oh 3 cylinder NO THANKS

seems too fast at 300 HP

Terrible review. Thumbs down

Type R has one of the ugliest wings I have ever seen....and front wheel drive is not my preference for a sport car. GR Corolla wins with me. Might be nice as a partner to my ND2 miata. Need to do a test drive to see how it feels. Thanks for the great review!!

2024 Toyota Garolla 😂🙄

I like your channel thus far, but stop with the cringy burning clutch jokes. You can do better 🙏

Worst thing only available in stickshift its 2024 paddle shift is whats up