I've always thought Natalie made a lot of mistakes in Micronesia, including that Final 8 situation. Jason was looking to take her to FTC, would lose to her, and had shown he'd play Idols for close allies. Keeping him in was to her benefit. She also had a mistake at F6, when Alexis wanted to pull a 3-2-1 vote to blindside Parvati, but Natalie refused because she was thinking with...not her head.

@boomz2526

6 ай бұрын

Natalie could've controlled the game, and all she had to do was blindside one of Parvati/Amanda/Cirie at F8. It's a shame she didn't, but at least we got the best F3 of all time

@SpanishFly120

6 ай бұрын

@@boomz2526 Survivor's had storyline bits over the years where it presents things as "guy loses because he was 'whipped'", but people don't talk on how Natalie lost because she was 'whipped' for Parvati, lol.

@Ori_Kohav

6 ай бұрын

I was just about to mention that. I don’t consider Natalie Bolton a good player at all

@SpiffierShindigs

6 ай бұрын

People always say Parvati won by charming the men. Incorrect. She won by charming the women.

@iandean1112

5 ай бұрын

@@SpiffierShindigs Parvati used every ounce of charisma and charm to win. It worked. Very well!

Jeff’s face when the men’s tribe comes into tribal council always makes me laugh 😂

@TheJacobSnyder

6 ай бұрын

That look he gave them is iconic😂

@Kryptojackjr

6 ай бұрын

"Okay, here comes Sala-...M-Manono? Wait, what the hell is going on??"

I was thinking about this topic recently after Dee voted for Sifu at the tribal where Sean asked the tribe to him out because of the drama that sparked from Sifu getting paranoid about the vote, but it actually became a benefit for Dee after the other original Reba outsider, J Maya, for some reason decided to take the fall for the vote which pitted the two outsiders of the Reba Four against each other and not against them

The Men giving up immunity might be one of the best outcomes of the One World setting. This could have never happened on any other season. Just a prime example of why this idea should be attempted again. The amount of cross-tribe possibilities is endless.

the men's tribes volunteering to go to Tribal Council seriously does not get brought up enough, like truly what the fuck was even going on there

So it’s been, what, 6 years since Millenials vs Gen X, and I’m still trying to wrap my head around Ken’s test for Will. He is so so lucky Will still voted with them. You could argue this move cost him any shot at winning this game, but he was kinda drawing dead before this.

People love to hate on the hourglass (I agree) but by far the dumbest twist of 41/42 is the Do or Die. Potentially robbing the audience of a final 7 vote.

I feel like Missy voting out Chelsea has to be in contention for this simply due to how lucky she got after it happened. She votes out someone who wants to be her ally over Karishma who she is already against and Dean who hasn't shown her loyalty. Then the tribe swap puts her closest 3 allies from Lairo with her in a 4-4 split and the other 3 more likely to be against her on the other tribe which had a 5-3 split. Then, Elaine gets a vote steal advantage for sitting out of the challenge which allows them to have the numbers at the pre merge tribal when before they would've turned on each other to avoid a tie, which has been confirmed in interviews. If anything went differently she could've been gone premerge easily due to how badly she misplayed. You know, maybe it did backfire, because by not being sent home she contributed to everything that happened at the merge, so we paid the price instead.

Last time I was this early the firemaking challenge wasn't even a thing 😆

I have always maintained that given Erik's situation, I understand how he was convinced giving Natalie his immunity was a good play. It obviously wasn't but I can see how he was manipulated into thinking it was. The only way he was going to win was if he could manage to run the remainder of the immunity challenges. I really doubt he would have been able to, but that was his only winning strategy at that point. Ultimately, I think once Alexis was gone, it was Parvati' game to lose. Erik just hadn't realized it yet.

Another from Season 42- Maryanne helping Lindsay find the challenge advantage at the Final 5, despite the fact the she was the only person left in the game who would beat her at the end and being the obvious target this vote. If Lindsay had capitalized on her advantage in the challenge she would have been guaranteed Final 4, which could have easily cost Maryanne the game.

@rogerdodger1984

6 ай бұрын

Yesss! I thought about this as well because Lindsay had a ton of win equity and I didnt understand that move at all by Maryanne.

3:40 is there a bigger indictment on a move's dumbness than Jason calling it smart?

@Peridiam

6 ай бұрын

Haha I had to include that part.

Do the opposite next. Great moves that totally backfired. I think top of that list is Ozzy’s sacrifice in South Pacific instead of just voting out Cochran

@Peridiam

6 ай бұрын

Fun idea! I'll consider it for a future vid.

@uglyaniimals

6 ай бұрын

love this idea !!!! a couple possible ideas: taj helping to spearhead the exile alliance, only for it to yield no fruit and everyone know something fishy was going on by the time of the merge, leading to nobody besides her core alliance really trusting her and her basically becoming jt / stephen's pawn kellie keeping around bruce as a meatshield (and to keep belo numbers up), only for her to be the first member of belo to get eliminated postmerge after bruce wins immunity not saying their name bc spoilers but basically everything the losing finalist in south african survivor: santa carolina did

@TheOscar401

6 ай бұрын

I’d go with Dom in ghost island pretending to play his fake idol before the votes which made Sebastian switch his vote which resulted in him getting voted, this ended up costing Dom Sebastian’s jury vote

@ScorpionTDC

6 ай бұрын

@@uglyaniimals I think Kellie booting Sifu over Drew is definitely an outright bad move and what sunk her far more than keeping Bruce around (and truthfully, I thought she was a weak player in general).

@dexterdelvin9918

5 ай бұрын

Great moves that totally backfired sounds like a really fun idea.

"i'm completely bum-puzzled right now" "you're what?" LOL

It’s really interesting how the Men giving up immunity affected so much of the game, the Women were going to vote out Christina who went on to get 4th place, which would have put the women down a number, assuming who Colton and Alecia decide to cut between Monica and Bill could put the women in a minority come merge which threatens Kim’s domination and would have forced her to stick with the men for longer than she initially had to

colton giving away immunity is interesting because its something that would only work in a one world season

Natalie's move did backfire in the end. If a close ally had found it and kept it, there would be no idol for Amanda to find (assuming it's not the same idol and Natalie doesn't choose Amanda). Once Alexis goes home, Natalie is out of the running.

@uglyaniimals

6 ай бұрын

good call !!!

@esinger23

6 ай бұрын

That’s true! I didn’t think of it that way

@SpanishFly120

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, but even then, Alexis was pushing for the Fans (Alexis/Erik/Natalie) to put their votes on Parvati at F6, but Natalie refused to do it, turning what would've been a 3-2-1 vote for Parvati to go into a 2-0 one where Alexis went.

I have a question for you Peridiam, where do you get your clips of the show? I thought about this and now I can’t stop thinking about it. I am a big fan and love your content.

Hey at 8:39 you say that Peih-Gee says that she regrets not making a move but on the screen her last sentence says that it was good she didn’t because Erik didn’t vote for Todd.

Season 45: Emily going off on Bruce for no reason to start the very first challenge 😂

@moviemaniac14

6 ай бұрын

Well to be fair, they were going to vote her off because of the things she said, and she would've gone if it wasn't for Hannah wanting to quit the game.

You could also say that choosing not to switch boxes in the Do-or-die twist was a dumb move since the odds of getting the correct one if you switch are higher than not switching. However, both times the twist was used, the player chose to not switch but got the correct box anyway!

Here are a few recommendations: Aubry crossing Julias name Adam’s plan working at the final 5 (had David gone home he probably goes next) Michelle and Natalie flipping on Denise at F6 Austin telling Dee the plan at the F7

@TheOscar401

6 ай бұрын

That last one kinda did backfire since Dee used that info(not telling Austin she told Julie) against him at final tribal where Austin was giving a surprisingly good speech

@dinohall2595

6 ай бұрын

Denise flipping on Denise? Lol.

@legendarysingh2173

6 ай бұрын

@@dinohall2595 brainfart my fault 😭

@legendarysingh2173

6 ай бұрын

@@TheOscar401 I was leaning more towards the fact that Julie was gonna vote him out (with an amulet in his pocket), he got extremely lucky Dee talked her out of it

@dinohall2595

6 ай бұрын

@@legendarysingh2173 All good, I honestly thought it was pretty funny.

While this may sound like a bad move on the surface, I'm surprised it hasn't been done already- giving your immunity necklace away WHEN NO ONE ELSE KNOWS YOU WILL (and don't tell production ahead of time). The immunity necklace is the ultimate power and offers an immunity that can be transferred. If you know where votes are heading, you can make a really flashy move at tribal and treat the necklace like a hot potato immunity idol.

@bencalebrod

6 ай бұрын

You have to give some indication you have an idol for this to work though, as otherwise people will take the easy out of switching their vote of you for making a rogue move. This happened to Jenna in Amazon when she gave up immunity out of nowhere, she just got extremely lucky that Rob and Matt still went through with the Kristie vote. (speaking of which, Jenna giving up that immunity is easily the single worse move that didn't backfire, it's certainly higher than any on this list!)

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

5 ай бұрын

@bencalebrod She gave up immunity as Rob C. had told her he wanted to sit next to her at the end so if she took Heidi off the block, it would force Rob to vote for Christy

I think a great example of this is also Alec from David Vs Goliath voting out Natalia! Carl came into the tribe and that put him from a majority into a 3v2 minority David v Goliaths, and if they laughed he easily could’ve been picked off :O

Speaking of telling the minority alliance your blindside plans at the most unnecessary times, there’s actually one instance of this on where it actually backfired, in which it happened in the Final 9 round Australian Survivor: Champions vs Contenders(2018) *SPOILER ALERT* So at the Final 9, there’s a 6-3 faction, with Shonee, Fenella, and Benji at the bottom, and the minority members are trying to take out Mat at this round because of how powerful/threatening he is, in which they tried to recruit Brian & Monika in on the plan, but it fails because they are Champions strong. However, Mat notices that Brian is getting closer with Shonee & Fenella because of him making the girls laugh at his jokes, so therefore he devises a plan to blindside Brian, since he doesn’t really trust them. But then he allows Sharn to tell Benji about the plan to blindside, which resulted in the minority alliance telling Brian & Monika about the plan, in which they’ve eventually decided to join them to take out Mat in a 5-4 vote. And people were saying on how Sharn should’ve played the idol on Mat or Mat should’ve played his idol on himself, but are also forgetting on how both Mat and Sharn could’ve easily prevented this if they didn’t tell the minority alliance of the plan to blindside Brian

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

5 ай бұрын

And then there’s Shonee stealing Sharn’s vote at the next tribal when they’re down 5-3 and then casting both votes for Sharn. When it went to the revote, Benji and Sharn couldn’t vote and Shonee lost the stolen vote allowing Steve, Shane, Brian, and Monika to gut Benji 5-1 after Fenella recognized the sinking ship she had got on. Had she stolen let’s say Steve’s vote then her and Fenella with the stolen vote could have pressured Monika to flip back on the revote.

@jonnysforlife1697

5 ай бұрын

@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Oh yeah, I forgot about that one

Speaking of One World..... the dumbest move was probably by Lynn Spillman for casting Colton in the first place. Actually, for casting MOST of the people on this friggin' season.....

It would've served production right in S42 if everyone dropped out except for Jonathan. So that no one would've had to play that stupid game or even do an immunity challenge 😄

I think there's even one more thing to say about do or die, and it's that it's the Monty hall problem, so she also played it statistically incorrectly

that bradley guy at the end of the video is so entertaining , more personalities like that and not just happy positive people

Dang, I suppose that there is no better way to start thinking clearly than doing something stupid and surviving. The Monty Hall problem can come in handy when making choices. I'm a huge Numberphile geek ❤

Do a video on the history of Luxury Items

Tyson drawing rocks has to be up there

@szekesfehervar2230

Ай бұрын

Tyson was safe. He would have won easily Redemption Island

I don't think Manono giving up immunity belongs in this video. The move did backfire in the sense that the women ended up running away with the whole game. Had the women gone to tribal council instead of the men, the numbers going into the merge could be more in favour of the men, and a man truly could have won. On another note, the do or die challenge, both in Deshawn's season and Lindsay's season, does belong in this video because the theory behind the Monty Hall problem says that your odds are better if you switch boxes, but Deshawn and Lindsay both stuck with their original choice and guessed right anyway.

Did Malolo going to tribal instead of Salani inspire Jeff to do the hourglass twist? 😅

Natalie is so frustrating in the post merge of Micronesia. Here's an idea-instead of riding the favorites' coattails and voting out Jason, rallying the fans to vote out either Parvati or Cirie, have the numbers, and be in the driver's seat to FTC. I think this highlights the fatal flaw with FvF format and why I don't get why people keep bringing up a 3rd iteration as a returnee season idea. The fans would rather play for the favorites than against them.

Marty had some balls

14:00 DAYUMMM. 3223 32 dadyd

A dumb move was todd not splitting the vote on james to have a 2nd vote on pg (or erik, i forgot), cause if james played the idol, todd would have gone home

A lot of what Gabler did can be in this video

@juanmora9190

6 ай бұрын

Like what? Putting palm fronds on someone?

@qu4ry529

6 ай бұрын

@@juanmora9190 like putting his head on the chopping block on the first tribal

@juanmora9190

6 ай бұрын

@@qu4ry529 oh yeah lol forgot about that

I actually thought about that prior video about Erik from China’s move and I remember an exact quote. You said “she’s THE Amanda Kimmel, don’t question her stragtegy.” So now you’re questioning her strategy in this video? Pick a lane, Peridiam!!

@Peridiam

6 ай бұрын

I can't help myself! There's too many ways to slice it. 😅

Bradley 😂

What’s his name❓ What was his birth 👶 name❓It wasn’t Coach ⚽️, it was Benjamin👨. And you know they’re children 👦👧; 2️⃣6️⃣, 2️⃣2️⃣, they’re over there listening 👂 to all of Benjamin’s👨... 🎃Halloween Jokes🎃, uh, 🧀Chuckie The Cheese Jokes🧀, they- 👅 eu-h, they want it 🙏. He goin off of loyalty ⭐️ got them fee- “😰Oh, Benjamin👨, you so loyalty😓” ... Come on now 😑... Everyday📆 he got a story 📚. I wasn’t ❌ buying 💰 it. [scoff] 😤 [giggle] ☺️... Eh😒... No. 🙅 So... They tr- like yesterday ↩️ the tribal 🏝 was all kahoots 👌 Benjamin👨,”Let’s give a hug 🤗.” ✋️PFF.✋️ Keep that hug. Boop!🔫 For me. Cuz it wasn’t real❌

0:55 i’ve never seen this shot of erik before omg he got so hot 😵‍💫

@nstemania

4 ай бұрын

hasn’t he been hot all the time? 😭

@nuckertix

4 ай бұрын

@@nstemania tea

I always thought that One World tribal was fake, it was probably against the rules fir Bill to throw away Colton's idol instead of ejecting him from the show they tried to make it seem interesting.

Why in the WORLD was Colton in charge of the men's tribe??

Lex targetting Kelly at the final 9 in Africa.

Nice thumbnail lol

I don’t have as many issues with Natalie’s move because she is from an older season and I think she just wanted to throw Jason a bone

Didn't Maryanne tell everybody her extra vote plans? All she needed was to do the plan she ended up doing and she said she was going to use her extra vote regardless yet she seemed upset the other guys didn't want to vote for Omar when their votes didn't matter.

I'm glad you highlighted Natalie's move. Natalie is one of those players that I find to be incredibly overrated and I've never quite understood why people want to see her play again. She got herself in an alliance where she was always on the bottom and at the mercy of the vets. She gave all of those confessionals about how great of a player she was and how the women were playing the men when she never realized that the other women were playing her.

@tommymcphee3777

6 ай бұрын

Shut up? Let’s go through each vote off post merge and credit one player Eliza - Parvati Ozzy - Cirie Jason - Natalie James - N/A Alexis - Amanda Erik - Cirie/Natalie Natalie - Everyone Cirie - Amanda Natalie was just as much apart of that alliance as the rest of them. She positioned herself best to WIN the game had Amanda not idoled out Alexis. She would’ve made f3 with Alexis and Erik and won the game had Amanda not idoled her out.

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

6 ай бұрын

@tommymcphee3777 She literally voted Erik out, and in post game interviews Parvati and Amanda were the ones responsible for Ozzys elimination, not Cirie

@aleczavala5010

4 ай бұрын

I think it goes to show just how how good of a winner Parvati was. Natalie knew full well that once the men were all gone, her days were numbered, but she was still fiercely loyal to Parvati and would sacrifice herself for her. Notice how when the girls come up with the plan to convince Erik to give up immunity, she gets frustrated and says, “Who would fall for that?” You’d think she said that because it’s an obvious statement, but in her quarantine questionnaire during the pandemic, she claimed she said that out of frustration because she knew she was the next to go and thought the favorites were only saying that to get her to lower her guard. She easily could’ve just voted with Erik and maybe even tried to flip Cirie because even she knew Parvati and Amanda were a tight pair, but no. Natalie just went along with the favorites, did Parv’s bidding and accepted defeat when her time came

Why isn’t Denise voting out Sandra for no reason on WaW here?

@vaporterra

6 ай бұрын

It was a coin flip between her and Tony and a lot of game happened between that move and Tony getting the chance to steamroll

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

6 ай бұрын

Yeah at least Sandra had approached Denise about working together, Tony hadn’t done anything like that so she should cut the person she doesn’t have a future with

Not too much on Natalie now

Everyone knows this is Stephen Fishback’s channel right?

Similar to the Marty one. In game changers when Tai did not play one of his TWO idols when he LOST his vote in the final 7 when Michaela got voted out. No excuses dumb move that he didn’t get voted out. And think about it this way fans because everyone including myself loves Cirie, she doesn’t go home the next tribal because Tai’s two idols is what did her in. She probably wins that game

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

6 ай бұрын

No? How would Cirie win, assuming Tai plays an idol then Aubry goes at 5 and Brad still goes on his winning streak and he, Troy, and Sarah vote out Cirie and Tai Cirie had no shot

@emilydinan533

6 ай бұрын

Tai is gone at 7. There are no two idols anymore at 6. So final 6 is Michaela, Cirie, Aubry, Troyzan, Sarah, Brad. She still might not win in that situation but she had 0 votes on her when she went home at final 6 because of all the stupid idols that were played

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

6 ай бұрын

Okay entertaining that, Sarah probably blindsides Michaela or Cirie at final 6, probably Michaela for being a physical threat and then Cirie is picked off at F5 I don’t really think her elimination is that bad but she had 0 chance of winning due to Brad and Sarah controlling the game

How about how the terrible move of Voting Jerri out of at final 8 in Australian Outback, blindsiding Amber. How did Amber not flip on original Ogakor?? Rodger Elizabeth and Nick should have pulled Amber over and it would have given them the numbers. Tina, Colby, and Keith should have lost the game right then and there. Now Colby did go on an immunity run here, but with Nick still in the game, he could have at least given Colby some competition if not outright win 1 of those immunity challenges.

why did it take me until now to notice parv kissing natalie 😭 i was always a truther, how did i miss this???

@FairyBogFather

3 ай бұрын

truly my otp

Does this count? Natalie Anderson “accidentally” voting for Alec in SJDS. It was her real move to vote for Alec to weaken Jon and Jaclyn but she made it SEEM like a dumb move. So basically it was a genius fake dumb move that “just so happened” to put Natalie in a better position.

First?

Why some moves didn't backfire? Because it wasn't scripted to happen.

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

5 ай бұрын

I refuse to believe anybody would ever script Thailand or Redemption Island, those seasons were shit