Good topic and good discussion. My biggest beef with the dealership setting is flat rate. It’s a scam, it often leads to needless corner-cutting, infighting, and every “good” ticket is like tossing a juicy steak above a group of wild hounds. I suppose dealership management loves it, but imo the people who invest so much time (and money in tools) to become experts at their trade deserve a much better, more stable pay structure.

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

Yea 100% believe the flat rate life can lead to some corners being cut to rack up as many hours as possible but not everyone is like that, I believe good and honest mechanics exist out there…finishing up Honda school to get a master tech title will for sure help those mechanics pay wise.

No excuse handing out your up sell to someone else. I am a Service Advisor, I take care of my Technicians because they take care if me. With you Technicians I do not make any money. All of my Techs Love me because I love them. At our dealership, Techs order their own parts from their laptop, as it should be. I also make sure all of my techs are paid book plus.That is another reason they love me. I used to be a technician so I know. I usually get a little extra time for jobs because I understand cleaning,prepping gasket surfaces, and removing rusted fasteners. I don't think anyone should be a service advisor without some technician experience,period.

I hear you on the dirty vehicle I work for a Honda dealer in northern maine we are not flat rate I have days I don’t work on a Honda and wrong parts all the time

im so glad i left the dealership life.. im at a independent shop. i took a paycut but 10 minute communte makes ups for it. Im happier and i get to work on different cars. my goal is to get more experience, get all my ase certs and maybe switch trades or something other auto motive related. idk.

I agree on the 3rd thing you said.

I’ve been a tech for 16 years, I hear you on all this, tips for new guys, be nice to your parts guys, learn from the master techs, and take every job advisors give to you, don’t turn anything down.

I liked your IG posts about hoarder cars. 🤫 I never understood apartment people not doing oil changes. I used to do mine in a Walmart parking lot late at night after working

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!! Lol 😂 I had a friend who did it one time at the mall without an oil drain bucket lol 😂

You are a good person.

Great video almost a year being lube tech and Honda is okay I guess I’m already getting tired of the bullshit co workers are a pleasure to work with just the money is not there

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

When I was a lube tech I felt undervalued knowing the guy flipping burgers at In N Out is making just as much as I was…exactly why I pushed to get that promotion

I remember once changing a floor harness on a 2018 CRV, underneath the seats I’ve found half eaten sandwiches, it’s disgusting. To be fair, the 11th gen civics do have a known issue with with steering racks. I’ve replaced multiple due to too much preload on the input shaft, but that causes a notch feeling. In a small dealer like I’m at (5 techs, 2 advisors). We all work Monday to Friday 8-5. We can all keep track of who’s job was who’s. I personally also helped train our new parts guy, because in Esis we get the actual name of the part, where as in parts diagrams they only get a generic term. Engine oil pressure sensor, cvt driven pulley pressure sensor, ac pressure sensor, etc all are called the same thing in their diagrams. Even as a tech with 12 years experience, I still get confused looking at them at times because of how bad they are. It sucks when it happens, but I can perfectly understand it when parts are ordered wrong (unless it’s something obvious like left/right side or front/rear)

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

thats a tiny shop! what city you in? I thought my shop was small with only 10 techs and 3 service advisors.

@jasonlecreux1175

10 ай бұрын

@@2zzlow I’m in Nova Scotia, Canada. Pretty rural area. I’ve worked at smaller shops in the past where it’s been only me and 2 other techs, but the largest shop I worked at was a GM dealership and it’s the biggest shop in my area. 9 techs, 2 apprentices, 2 advisors and 2 parts guys 😂

if service advisors hand ur work to other techs, doesnt that mean they are also handing other techs work to you? so ur sorta benefitting from the same system or nah?

❤ good video brother

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

Thanks fam!

How hard is it to swap a 2003 GT 5 speed manual, to a 2zz, ive seen videos of you doing but it just confuses me a little bit sometimes, thanks sebas:) Edit: wish i lived closer to your area id just pay you and clayton to do it because i can tell you know what you're doing.

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

You can reuse the 1zz harness or make it easier and use a 2zz harness. Everything is pretty much bolt on, very easy swap if you have a donor or bought everything needed.

@sezuawn3861

11 ай бұрын

@@2zzlow thanks brotha, very much appreciated, i wanna move out there one day, seems like all the celicas are there😂(i live in the rust belt)💀

@sezuawn3861

11 ай бұрын

@@2zzlow would i have to wire in the oil pressure switch and the lift solenoid to the 1zz harness?

If your I’m not there I don’t mind, but when I’m there and the advisor don’t look of to see where worked on the car last, and gave it to someone else then I care that happens at every dealer

ahh man that number 4 triggered me too lol fkn annoying bro

a toyota guru working at honda 😂

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

LOL at the time I was job searching my driving record was not good and the Honda dealer was desperate for techs so they were the only ones that hired me

i think the hoarder issue is a honda thing. im sure if you were at acura it'd be a less occurrence. if someone else is taking your upsale for a air filter. im okay with it especially if im busy. However if it is a larger up sale, you better believe i'll be frustrated!

@nuclearpistachio

11 ай бұрын

nah ive seen mercedes as hoarder cars too. it’s no related to money or status, people are just nasty

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

I don't think its a "brand" issue, as @6pacshakur said people are just nasty or as I think, people have problems where they cant throw away stuff because of a disfunction.

You look buff 💪🏽 yes…

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

Not sure where that came from but ok 👍

You look the type

@2zzlow

11 ай бұрын

Lol wut

If your gone your recs are fair game to hangout they shouldn’t hold them an extra day. It happens when other techs are gone to so it balances out

@2zzlow

10 ай бұрын

Totally understand but sometimes when the job exceed a certain amount of money the dealer will give out rentals so I feel like the original tech that did the recommendations should get the job.

@COBRO98

5 ай бұрын

I disagree, the customer can wait an extra day or two. Mechanics on flat rate effectively work for themselves, your sale should be your money.

@brandenchurch8652

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@COBRO98it balances out in the end. My shop we all work M-F 8-5 so we no longer have that issue.