5 Ship Design Fails

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Building ships is difficult business - and sometimes, design flaws can slip through the cracks. These 5 ships suffered from some design faults that caused issues, from the the frustrating to the deadly.
RMS Queen Mary, RMS Lusitania, SS America, RMS Titanic and SS Principessa Jolanda all had design flaws that came out of the woodwork only after the ships were finished!
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Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s great ocean liners - from Titanic to Queen Mary but not forgetting the likes of Empress of Ireland or Chusan. Join Mike Brady as he uncovers the myths, explains the timelines, logistics and deep dives into the lives of the people and ocean liner ships that we all know and love.
0:00 Introduction
0:33 Queen Mary's Rolling
5:43 Lusitania's Vibrations
10:16 America's Funnels
13:17 Titanic's Watertight Bulkheads
16:25 Principessa Jolanda's Launch

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  • @OceanlinerDesigns
    @OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын

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  • @concept5631

    @concept5631

    Жыл бұрын

    Nicely done

  • @Stacy_Smith

    @Stacy_Smith

    Жыл бұрын

    "...largely killed the idea of an unsinkable ship." The USS Nevada has entered the chat.

  • @Markatta73

    @Markatta73

    Жыл бұрын

    MS Estonia bow door construction failor (on a RoRo-ship) killed 851 of 952 on board..

  • @marhawkman303

    @marhawkman303

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha, for #1... the Great Eastern was built in a dock that wasn't floodable, and to launch they had to push the ship into the water. And no one bothered to actually do the math to figure out how much pushing power would be needed to actually do that. That got weird, and cost the builders a lot of money when they broke hydraulic pistons trying to do it.

  • @hannahpumpkins4359

    @hannahpumpkins4359

    Жыл бұрын

    The Eastland - especially after it's upgrade need to be added to this list!

  • @scocon8658
    @scocon8658 Жыл бұрын

    The Principessa Jolanda launch reminds me of a joke: "Why does the New Italian Navy have glass-bottom boats?" "To see the Old Italian Navy."

  • @brianperry

    @brianperry

    Жыл бұрын

    That could be said of the Russian navy after the the Battle of Tsushima, the US fleet at Pearl Harbour and many of the British warships after Jutland...

  • @scocon8658

    @scocon8658

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brianperry Well, heck - The Naval battle at Guadalcanal had so many ships sunk between the islands they named it Iron Bottom Sound. We could do this all day, or night, depending on where Home is ;)

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class

    @aircraftcarrierwo-class

    11 ай бұрын

    @Super Nostalgia Get your cult nonsense out of here, that has nothing to do with ships, much less ocean liners.

  • @Yawyna124

    @Yawyna124

    10 ай бұрын

    @@aircraftcarrierwo-class I am curious what was said, if you happen to recall based on this bump.

  • @alvisegarbin3296

    @alvisegarbin3296

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Yawyna124 waaat?

  • @plusplusplusplusp
    @plusplusplusplusp Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact about the Queen Mary: the author Paul Gallico was aboard when she leaned over particularly heavily and it seemed she would never right herself. This inspired him to write The Poseidon Adventure.

  • @atomicwedgie8176

    @atomicwedgie8176

    Жыл бұрын

    I was told too never bend over in front of a politician. True story.

  • @christopherrosindale3175

    @christopherrosindale3175

    Жыл бұрын

    A fact which made Irwin Allen's use of the Queen Mary as the principal filming location for his legendary movie of The Poseidon Adventure; with the real ship used for the exteriors; a 22 ft model (which still exists, on public display in California) used for the 'at sea' and capsized shots; and interior sets built using the Queen Mary's original blueprints as the key reference. all the more appropriate, and ironic....

  • @jamesfisher4326
    @jamesfisher4326 Жыл бұрын

    My friend's aunt was on the Queen Mary during the 1964 storm. She said it was a terrifying experience and the passengers suffered greatly.

  • @epck

    @epck

    6 ай бұрын

    46° of roll is absolutely insane that's like a theme park ride or something

  • @scabbycatcat4202

    @scabbycatcat4202

    5 ай бұрын

    Maybe that was the voyage that she was met by 27 ambulances waiting on the Southampton quayside to take all the injured passengers to hospital

  • @TheDoubleace191
    @TheDoubleace191 Жыл бұрын

    After seeing Queen Mary's rolling characteristics, I really don't know how on earth she survived the 1942 rogue wave strike while serving as a troop ship.... Just wow

  • @toddkurzbard

    @toddkurzbard

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that was the same one that inspired a young soldier on board at the time named Paul Gallico to write "The Poseidon Adventure".

  • @rollingslothmachine3431

    @rollingslothmachine3431

    Жыл бұрын

    I could imagine that the added weight from the tens of thousands of soldiers gave the QM a lower center of gravity and therefore made it more stable then normal.

  • @TheDoubleace191

    @TheDoubleace191

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rollingslothmachine3431 Ah.... 10K+ troops could be a big factor afterall...

  • @anthonyjackson280

    @anthonyjackson280

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rollingslothmachine3431 not so much QM carried a maximum of 15,740 troops. If you allow a generous 250lbs per man for the soldier and personal kit that amounts to 1788 long tons. For comparison the QM burned ~1200 tons of fuel per day.

  • @KiwiSentinel

    @KiwiSentinel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@toddkurzbard No, Paul Gallico was a passenger in 1936 and experienced an extreme roll during lunchtime. He would incorporate the experience into his novel The Poseidon Adventure.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 Жыл бұрын

    “She could roll the milk out of a cup of tea” A brilliant quote.

  • @robertlight5227

    @robertlight5227

    Жыл бұрын

    Corvettes in WWII were a wee tippy too. They could "roll on wet grass."

  • @dwaveryn
    @dwaveryn Жыл бұрын

    Not an ocean liner, but the 17th century Swedish war ship Vasa comes to mind. 🤦

  • @Yaboijw

    @Yaboijw

    Жыл бұрын

    How did you comment 5 hours ago

  • @S3JUN3

    @S3JUN3

    Жыл бұрын

    He is a time travler dont worry.

  • @tangentcssr

    @tangentcssr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Yaboijw he has a membership

  • @Rose.2889

    @Rose.2889

    Жыл бұрын

    How did I find it in 7 hrs u actually a time traveller

  • @Rose.2889

    @Rose.2889

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait this vid is 2 hrs ago and his is 7 hrs ago

  • @johnshepherd9676
    @johnshepherd9676 Жыл бұрын

    The US Navy's North Carolina Class battleships had the same harmonic problem as the Lusitania. Once the ship got her speed above 25 knots vibration became an issue and increased as the ship reach her top speed of 28 knots. The solution was to change the propellers which only moved the harmonic induced vibrations to a different speed regime. However the vibration issue was now at a speed that would be unlikely in normal cruising or battle, around 18 knots.

  • @toddkurzbard
    @toddkurzbard Жыл бұрын

    I'm really glad you mentioned the IOLANDA (probably the only ship ever to be lost at her LAUNCH). So many others ignore or are unaware of her when covering ship tragedies.

  • @Nooziterp1

    @Nooziterp1

    Жыл бұрын

    The Titanic sinking on her maiden voyage was bad enough, but the Iolanda didn't even get that far. I can just imagine her designers and the management of the builders at her launch going 'Oh shit!'

  • @paoloviti6156

    @paoloviti6156

    Жыл бұрын

    You should consider also the sailing Warship Wasa that rolled over after 200 yards! Not so quickly as the Jolanda but here we go..

  • @23GreyFox

    @23GreyFox

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paoloviti6156 1400 yards

  • @paoloviti6156

    @paoloviti6156

    Жыл бұрын

    @@23GreyFox thanks for correcting me me but 1,000 yards but still in front of whole Stockholm was embarrassing like hell.

  • @23GreyFox

    @23GreyFox

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paoloviti6156 At least they learned a way to - how not to build a ship.

  • @Ten80pete
    @Ten80pete Жыл бұрын

    I have to say, I massively enjoy these maritime engineering channels, but this one has one of the most charismatic hosts. Just the right balance of personality, history, and shipbuilding education is going to have me binging these videos until I decide to go on a cruise someday. Then I will be forced to take a "Maritime Disaster Sabbatical".

  • @167curly
    @167curly Жыл бұрын

    Each nautical flaw has helped in developing safer and more comfortable vessels, but human folly can still cause tragedy occasionally. Thanks for fascinating footage, Mike.

  • @majuuorthrus3340
    @majuuorthrus3340 Жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite design issues is the SS Bessemer, an attempt to build a ship with a swinging internal cabin, to combat seasickness. Great idea, unfortunately the swinging of the internal cabin affected the motion of the hull and caused it to thrash wildly, driving it into Calais Pier. Twice.

  • @tf2funnyclips74

    @tf2funnyclips74

    9 ай бұрын

    Would love to see a video made about this @oceanlinerdesigns

  • @Tindometari

    @Tindometari

    5 ай бұрын

    That's a better example of resonance than the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.

  • @GroundHOG-2010
    @GroundHOG-2010 Жыл бұрын

    Note: The Tacoma Narrows was not due to resonance (as is commonly stated) but due to Aeroelastic Flutter. Basically the wind interacting with the bridge would provide negative dampening to the bridge, and at high enough speeds this would overpower any positive dampening the bridge had, leading to an every increasing torsional oscillation.

  • @Infernal_Elf

    @Infernal_Elf

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah and it definitely dident have anything to do with soldiers marching. That happened to millenium bridge in London Just from normal walking people.

  • @RWBHere

    @RWBHere

    Жыл бұрын

    *damping

  • @nathanieldaiken1064

    @nathanieldaiken1064

    Жыл бұрын

    Say what now?🤔

  • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

    @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

    Жыл бұрын

    C O O L

  • @brianaschmidt910

    @brianaschmidt910

    Жыл бұрын

    Galloping gertie!!!! The broken bits have actually formed a habitat for the local aquatic animals (specifically the giant pacific octopus) and the posts from the original are still standing and can be seen from (or could've the last time I was on) the current newer bridge just to the right.

  • @ernekid7241
    @ernekid7241 Жыл бұрын

    I have to say that I really enjoy Mike’s videos. I came across them a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching them since. They are truly fascinating. As someone who grew up near Belfast I’ve always been fascinated by the Olympic class liners and Ocean Liner history. I have to say Mikes videos are educational, accessible and really professionally put together. this channel has fast become one of my favourite transportation history channels. Just wanted to say Thanks for another great video

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    And there was nothing wrong with Titanic when she left Belfast! H&W built a good ship.

  • @KXXULADavidOC

    @KXXULADavidOC

    Жыл бұрын

    Completely agree, just discovered this channel and already the videos ive seen are fantastic, also love the Olympic class liners and Ocean Liner history

  • @lorddrayvon1426

    @lorddrayvon1426

    Жыл бұрын

    How I found him is rather obtuse honestly. Since I have an interest in both maritime history and ghost towns, I follow Part-time Explorer who Mike is acquainted with. I don't remember which video it was (I think it was one about the Titanic) but I was a bit confused when the video abruptly cut to an Aussie. A little bit of digging led me me here.

  • @unrulyjulie4382

    @unrulyjulie4382

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@lorddrayvon1426...I also found his channel through Part Time Explorer. Two of the best!

  • @Lizzyjaeger

    @Lizzyjaeger

    6 ай бұрын

    Agreed! Oceanliner Designs is part of my sons bedtime routine. Mike is an excellent narrator, whether we are listening intently or dozing off. 🥰

  • @monsieurcommissaire1628
    @monsieurcommissaire1628 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Propeller cavitation seems to have been a problem with just about all 4-screw express liners. Mauretania, Lusitania, and Normandie are the ones that generally come up, but most of the big, fast ships grappled with it to some degree. Normandie's vibration problems improved with a new set of 4-bladed props, as did Mauretania's, but neither ship was ever completely vibration free. Speaking of the magnificent Normandie, she had an issue with rolling nearly opposite to QM- the great ship would roll a bit, then snap back to the vertical with a violence that would send things flying about... Still, these were great ships, imperfections and all. To Queen Mary's credit, though she came to within 3° of capsizing when broadsided by a nearly 100' wave, she did come back up again, and got the 15,000 bruised, bloodied, but grateful troops she carried safely to their destination. 🚢Always a pleasure to watch a new video from Ocean Liner Designs!

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes quite right, it feels wrong calling Mary out on her rolling when the ship endured some insane conditions and survived just fine. I think the real design failure there was the lack of handrails :)

  • @atomicwedgie8176

    @atomicwedgie8176

    Жыл бұрын

    I heard it was 16000 on board?

  • @tripwire3992

    @tripwire3992

    11 ай бұрын

    @@atomicwedgie8176 she still holds the record for the most people carried by ship in a single journey

  • @tomriley5790

    @tomriley5790

    4 ай бұрын

    I think its a cause/effect situation, why did they put 4 props on the liners - to transmit as much power as possible into the water, cavitation is caused by so much power being put into the water that the water vapourises due to the low pressure on one side of the propellor blade, so if you're pushing the limits of how much power you can put out you're going to run up to the limit. As an aside this is why submarines making long distance transits do so at depth - cavitation is very loud (all the bubbles collapsing) so if you can prevent them forming by increasing the pressure overall at greater depth then you can stay quieter at higher speeds.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын

    Another great one Mike! Thanks, you made my day! It's not too surprising Lusitania (and Mauretania) had vibration issues. High-speed propeller design was still pretty much in it's infancy and there was still much to be learned. Still, if you had to get across the Atlantic quickly and you didn't mind a bit of a rough ride "Lucy" and "Mary" were the way to go.

  • @ZeldaTheSwordsman
    @ZeldaTheSwordsman Жыл бұрын

    The "Rolling Mary" must have *incredible* restoring force designed into her. Regarding the Titanic... Mind you, it was mainly the _press_ that threw the word "unsinkable" around. It probably didn't help Titanic in her scrape against the iceberg that apparently, in order to better facilitate hand-riveting (because the hull-crawling riveting machines decided to balk during her construction) the rivets used were slag-rich and thus more vulnerable to shearing in a scrape. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.

  • @DerpyPossum

    @DerpyPossum

    Жыл бұрын

    The rivets in that portion of the hull weren’t exactly “slag-rich” so much as they were just iron as opposed to steel. It was for ease of construction around the awkward shapes of the bow and stern, with the machinery not being able to do the job for this reason. Everywhere else, though, they used steel rivets.

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    6 ай бұрын

    The rivets themselves were of the best quality available given the technology of the time. The plating forward and aft wasn't countersunk for them, which might have allowed more of them to shear than otherwise might have. The real crux of the problem from an engineering standpoint is just that nobody could have foreseen a low-speed sideswipe over a distance of more than a third of the total length of the keel. That particular kind of collision had never been reported before, and without a highly specific set of unlikely circumstances (which wouldn't be fully understood until decades later), wouldn't have even happened that night. It was the kind of absurd scenario nobody could have even imagined happening under the command of a competent officer-right up until the moment it did happen, and Commander Murdoch was helpless to stop it.

  • @18Hongo

    @18Hongo

    26 күн бұрын

    It was ENTIRELY the press that threw that word around. Captain Murdoch was a highly experienced and incredibly competent sailor - he absolutely knew better than to make ridiculous claims like that. Ismay and everyone else who worked for White Star was well aware of the ships the line had lost over its history, and had no intention of looking foolish if the worst was to happen. Unsurprisingly, the people making the ludicrous claims about a ship were the ones who knew absolutely nothing about sailing, shipbuilding, or maritime engineering. But that's one of the things that makes the Titanic such a compelling story. The "unsinkable" ship that sank on her maiden voyage, in a night full of drama, heroism, and, ultimately, tragedy. She wasn't the worst maritime tragedy, nor the fastest, but she was a damn good story.

  • @theWanderersnotebook
    @theWanderersnotebook Жыл бұрын

    I’m a simple man, I see a OceanLiner Designs video, I like the video and watch it through its entirety

  • @hollymartins6913
    @hollymartins6913 Жыл бұрын

    The Great Eastern had a bit of supernatural folklore attached to it. In fact, it's the origin of the 'workmen walled-up in the hull'-ghost story.

  • @willbreckinridge8010
    @willbreckinridge8010 Жыл бұрын

    Nothing better on the day after my birthday than watching a new Oceanliner Designs video :)

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Yay hope you had a great birthday!

  • @kencarp57
    @kencarp57 Жыл бұрын

    Mike - I think I'm becoming addicted to your informative, well-presented videos. You are doing great work!

  • @alexis_ianf
    @alexis_ianf Жыл бұрын

    A similar incident to the one mentioned 19:19 was the HMS Prince of Wales when it sunk in 1941 while being in an air attack was hit near the port most propellers shaft by a japanese torpedo and started taking on water also the propellers also cause further damage to the battleship and was difficult to turnoff as the damage also took out the controls which contributed to her eventual sinking.

  • @hallmobility

    @hallmobility

    Жыл бұрын

    She _sank_. After she *sank*, she was _sunk_. Sink, sank sunk. Drink, drank, drunk.

  • @old_guard2431
    @old_guard2431 Жыл бұрын

    Well done. There are a lot of candidates out there, ship launching fails being a recurrent KZread theme, but you picked an interesting variety, well presented.

  • @Unownshipper
    @Unownshipper Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this video. 15:12 I directly asked this very issue back in your "Titanic Head-on Collision" video. I appreciate you answering my question there and addressing this detail here for others to better understand as well. I hope there's a part two to this. You covered some big names here, but there's surely even more design flaws on less well-known ships.

  • @robtrunley
    @robtrunley Жыл бұрын

    Poor ole Jolanda! I had never heard this story and what a tragedy, it feels like the lessons in "the race to launch" even far back as 1907 that's 79 years until the Challenger incident, we learn nothing, I think now sharing our knowledge on platforms like this contribute so much to prevent similar occurrences. Great job Mike! a new subscriber today already love the Channel... Good Job.

  • @JesusIsKing48

    @JesusIsKing48

    6 ай бұрын

    that's """"Italy"""" for you, a failure since 1861 😂😂 The Savoia were and are cartoonishly stupid, incompetent and evil.

  • @astromotive6047
    @astromotive6047 Жыл бұрын

    NGL, I'm a bit surprised that the S.S. Imperator didn't make this list since her claim to infamy is that she almost NEVER stood level in the water. This was due to the excessive amount of marble furnishings HAPAG (Hamburg-America Line) had installed onboard without ever considering if such additions would make the ship top heavy. Of course this issue would earn the ship perhaps the most roast worthy nickname of all time, *"Limperator"* .

  • @vicmclaglen1631
    @vicmclaglen1631 Жыл бұрын

    I read a Queen Mary account in "Captain of the Queens" where the former captain and commodore of the fleet described an incident within a French harbor some time after WWII. There was a storm and he began to move the ship out to weather it, as I recall. The anchor snagged a WWII era cable and she began to swing out of control, blown hard by the wind. He ended up going to full power in an attempt to stop the stern from grounding but the ship still struck hard enough to be felt on the bridge. I believe he said the very stern at the bottom of the ship was filled with concrete as a repair, and seeped water ever afterward. Harry Grattidge, Captain of the Queens, excellent read I Highly recommend the book. As an aside, it would be interesting to know if that concrete is still there, because that would be really bad if it is. Concrete, steel and seawater do not mix well.

  • @hallmobility

    @hallmobility

    Жыл бұрын

    I read that book as a boy, and toured _Queen Mary_ in 1972. While I don't recall seeing any concrete (Ha!) when I saw the propeller shaft reduction gears, I do recall that some of the gear teeth were chipped. I guess @ 35 years of non-stop transatlantic service might do that.

  • @lasuvidaboy
    @lasuvidaboy Жыл бұрын

    My grandparents sailed on Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth several times. My grandmother told me about one rough crossing around 1950 or ‘51. They were in the lounge before going down to dinner and the ship was hit by a wave causing several sofas to rip free of their anchors and roll across the room. She also told me how the ss United States would bounce in rough weather and rode rough weather very differently than the Queens which would roll.

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 Жыл бұрын

    Metacentric Height. First thing that came to mind. Not an ocean liner (although the lakes do get violent) the poster child for metacentric height issues has to be the excursion vessel Eastland. To capsize at the dock in the Chicago River.

  • @robertknowles2699

    @robertknowles2699

    Жыл бұрын

    What's summer fun in a canoe paying less County tax out of town, compared to captive in-town employees paying maybe with extra worc for company's tax ?

  • @billigerfusel
    @billigerfusel Жыл бұрын

    This channel has such a weird specific niche topic. I love it

  • @armron94
    @armron94 Жыл бұрын

    The Queen Mary was used in the movie The Poseidon Adventure. Also the writer of the book Poseidon Adventure based on the Queen Mary due to a rogue wave hitting the ship pretty hard

  • @mikehenson819
    @mikehenson819 Жыл бұрын

    Can't tell you just how much I enjoy this channel! You put a lot of info into a short video and manage to make every second of it enjoyable. Excellence in content and presentation! As we say here in the States: You da Man, man.

  • @ryanjones5133
    @ryanjones5133 Жыл бұрын

    I like how classic yet art deco the Queen Mary is and I think she and the lusitania show how strong and rosileont cunard liners are.

  • @PaladinCasdin
    @PaladinCasdin Жыл бұрын

    Not sure I'd count the last one as a design flaw, more of a 'someone really didn't think this through' flaw. 🤣 Also, I guessed three of these before watching the video - from watching your OTHER videos (QM, Lusitania, Titanic). I'm very much looking forward to getting one of your frankly amazing drawings (RMS Olympic). You do excellent work, mate.

  • @subduedreader5627

    @subduedreader5627

    Жыл бұрын

    A procedural flaw might be another way to phrase it.

  • @Unownshipper

    @Unownshipper

    Жыл бұрын

    A flaw is a flaw. Whether you design a ship's blueprints or its timetable, these vessels all suffered due to someone's miscalculations. Though about that last one specifically, there's something so incredibly... Italian about bungling it so colossally. *NOBODY* considered the issue of it being top-heavy?! That almost defies belief. What a comedy of errors.

  • @PaladinCasdin

    @PaladinCasdin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Unownshipper The video isn't about flaws, it's about 'design failures'. Of which the last one really isn't, since it's near identical sister ship was launched without issue - it was someone being a complete moron rather than an issue inherent to the ship itself. But you're absolutely right about one thing - it's extremely Italian...

  • @vilstef6988
    @vilstef6988 Жыл бұрын

    In contrast to the Mary, her rival the Normandie was described as a sharp, snappy roller!

  • @TheJojo01902
    @TheJojo01902 Жыл бұрын

    Mike - your videos show immense research, informative narration, and striking visuals. All good, but there is another important detail - the high quality of your voice in narration. In simple terms, you are very easy to listen to, and that is icing on the cake. Well done.

  • @titaniccor6502
    @titaniccor6502 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loving this '5 ship' series Mike, keep doing 'em!

  • @stuarthancock571
    @stuarthancock571 Жыл бұрын

    Germany's Europa had to raise its funnels as well.

  • @tns-rox
    @tns-rox Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Mike, for another informative, superbly edited and entertaining video. Your narration is excellent, as always! 👍

  • @guynorth3277
    @guynorth327710 ай бұрын

    Michael your channel is truly awesome and you deliver the information like a seasoned champ; it's as though you have a historical presents to you, as well as a genuine authenticity.

  • @SeaTravelr123
    @SeaTravelr123 Жыл бұрын

    OMG. I knew of the Principessa Iolanda, but didn’t know about Principessa Mafalda’s tragedy.

  • @setter501
    @setter501 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Michael great vids mate, proud of you! It's good for an old sea dog like me to see a young bloke like yourself taking a massive interest in the subject and you certainly do know your stuff mate! I had a great interest in ships of all types from an early age, in my teens (in the 60s and early 70s) I spent a lot of time in Southampton photographing Passenger and Cargo ships it was my hobby I loved it, I now live in Australia but I remember those halcyon days when ships were really interesting! I just missed the Mary but saw and photographed the Queen Elizabeth (my joint favourite of them all the other being Caronia of 49), I saw the QE2 in 69 being prepared for her maiden voyage (Problems with her Pamatrada turbines) I was there on a harbour tour boat for her maiden departure for New York on a very rainy day in June 69, I still have the slides! It seems like only yesterday! I joined the merchant navy in the early 70s as a Junior Engineer I did about 10 years getting up to 3rd before emigration to Aussie in 1981! Still love ships, Thankyou for you great vids and info Mate! Cheers!

  • @aodhganmerrimac
    @aodhganmerrimac Жыл бұрын

    Another great video! I didn't know the America originally had shorter funnels (My grandfather sailed aboard her during her WWII trooping duties.) The Bremen & Europa also were designed with very short funnels that had the be raised.

  • @gcrav
    @gcrav10 ай бұрын

    SS America played a role in the opening credits sequence of Bernardo Bertolucci's The Sheltering Sky, as newsreel footage of its first crossing of the postwar era following a huge blizzard in New York, carrying the young adventurers John Malkovich and Debra Winger. The whole sequence of midcentury New York was a beautiful introduction to a fine film. The short funnel smoke issue also plagued streamliner locomotives that had full faring. Laminar airflow was not a good thing. When I was a young pup I had the privilege of crossing Puget Sound on the Kalakala ferry, which was also notorious for its vibration problems. The story of the Kalakala (former Peralta) has lots of idiosyncratic technological and historical details that Mike might be interested in.

  • @joshron99
    @joshron99 Жыл бұрын

    Nice personality, knowledgeable, cheerful face, pleasant voice.

  • @rd4554
    @rd4554 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video Michael, as always. Bravo! I'm just not sure if I would include the Jolanda in this list, as rather than a design flaw of the ship itself, it was more of a launch flaw. A testament to this was Mafalda's relatively good service life, although she was slightly modified after the capsizing of the Jolanda. Also note, the Jolanda and Mafalda were built and commissioned by the Lloyd Italiano (Yellow funnel with Italian tricolour), not the Navigazione Generale Italiana (Black funnel with white stripe). Mafalda would eventually join the NGI fleet and due to sheer lack of maintenance and incompetence by the NGI, become absolutely unseaworthy. NGI insisted she completed her last voyage before being scrapped, which led to her tragic sinking.

  • @JesusIsKing48

    @JesusIsKing48

    6 ай бұрын

    Italy and incompetence go hand in hand, fuck the Savoia. 😊

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman Жыл бұрын

    This makes Gibbs' achievement of becoming a naval architect without any proper real training all the more impressive.

  • @Hypellokaga
    @Hypellokaga Жыл бұрын

    Happy to have just found this channel. Very informative and entertaining, keep up the good work!

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Жыл бұрын

    Great narration, tons of information. Overall, a very enjoyable watch.

  • @Mr_Maritime
    @Mr_Maritime Жыл бұрын

    I find it crazy that Queen Mary’s rolling was so bad that it inspired the book and movie “The Poseidon Adventure” in which a ship is completely capsized by a tidal wave. Pretty crazy!

  • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

    @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

    Жыл бұрын

    Cool story

  • @Nikonover
    @Nikonover Жыл бұрын

    Love your work, a lot of research and very informative.

  • @DarrenCGraham
    @DarrenCGraham Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are so therapeutic. Keep up the good work

  • @SeaTravelr123
    @SeaTravelr123 Жыл бұрын

    Agree with you about America. She was perfect after the new funnels were installed !!

  • @fenman1954
    @fenman1954 Жыл бұрын

    Not an ocean liner but the great lakes steamer Eastland disaster is a fascinating story on how not to design a ship.

  • @user-et2xc2ww6q
    @user-et2xc2ww6q2 ай бұрын

    This was so interesting and very well done . Thank goodness the Queen Mary 2 is incredible in an atlantic gale and hardly rolls at all.

  • @jefftube58
    @jefftube58 Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic video by Mike Brady ! I never knew the America's funnels were originally shorter.

  • @CounterFleche
    @CounterFleche Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a similar video focusing on operational failures, like how the ferry Harold of Free Enterprise never had a specific process to ensure the bow doors were closed prior to leaving port.

  • @S3JUN3
    @S3JUN3 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video! I wish the best if luck to you!

  • @beachbum4691
    @beachbum4691 Жыл бұрын

    An exceptional insight into the world of early ocean liner design, I learned a great deal, thank you very much. Not an easy subject to convey to a public too much preoccupied with other and very different things., Brilliant, well done..............

  • @thepixelbust
    @thepixelbust Жыл бұрын

    Good Timing. I was taking a break from hours of learning. Thank you

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 Жыл бұрын

    The millennium bridge in London also had resonance issues. When it opened in 2000 it was notoriously wobbly and had to be shut. I'm assuming by the late 1990s they had computer modelling etc, so just goes to show... Best made plans

  • @purcascade

    @purcascade

    Жыл бұрын

    I was visiting London with a school group on the day the Millennium Bridge opened. We were supposed to walk across the bridge to see The Globe, but my roommate and I saw on the news that they had closed it just before we were about to go. It's so funny to me that it only lasted hours before being closed, and of all the weird coincidences, I happened to be visiting from the other side of the world.

  • @Dakiraun
    @Dakiraun Жыл бұрын

    I love the engineering details behind all the design flaws - such great research and presentation in these.

  • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

    @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

    Жыл бұрын

    Engineering sucks

  • @graemebdh2172
    @graemebdh2172 Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your work Mike.

  • @datarecoverysweden
    @datarecoverysweden Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time to create these.

  • @danielmaher152
    @danielmaher152 Жыл бұрын

    I've always thought too that the Lusitanias longitudinal bunkers hastened her sinking.

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, Mike. It’s funny you mention Queen Mary and her rolling, as author Paul Gallico was inspired to write the 1969 novel “The Poseidon Adventure” after a voyage on Queen Mary where she almost capsized. How prophetic, then, that she was used as SS Poseidon when they made the movie version in 1972.

  • @robertknowles2699

    @robertknowles2699

    Жыл бұрын

    Dire Straits say, " that's what they call, Rock & Roll".

  • @yoptastic8463
    @yoptastic8463 Жыл бұрын

    I am really enjoying your channel, you tell the facts in a smooth easy way and all the sort of facts about these beautiful ships and their very sad diastaers or the general design, workings and indeed failings that I like and want to know about. Really great work, can't wait for the next.

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! :)

  • @LWVH81
    @LWVH81 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Your video is well done and informative. I’m happy to have found your channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @hellothere4589
    @hellothere4589 Жыл бұрын

    Can you maybe do a video about the .S.S. Rotterdam? It is my favourite ship and i would love to see a video about her. Keep it up and amazing video as always!

  • @brianmasnova7059
    @brianmasnova7059 Жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel love your videos about titanic and the engineering that made it work especially the video on how it was steered I was always curious how that worked and you did a real good job of explaining it I also wondered about the galleys on Titanic and how they served all the classes of people on the ship do you have any videos about that thanks Mike for posting all you do

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching mate!

  • @lovreklaric1429
    @lovreklaric1429 Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, I've been binging your videos for the past couple of days as I have to study so of course here I am procrastinating but the content is super enjoyable, just now noticed and was surprised that your channel isn't bigger. Great quality, narration, everything. Keep it up man!

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha sorry for distracting you, get back to study! :D

  • @johnjoseph3667
    @johnjoseph3667 Жыл бұрын

    Another winner. Thanks, Mike. You're the best!

  • @robillingworth8503
    @robillingworth8503 Жыл бұрын

    I've also read that movie producer Irwin Allen had been aboard the "Rolling Mary" when during a storm she rolled as far as 40 degrees, which inspired him to later use her in his classic "Poseidon Adventure"

  • @toddkurzbard

    @toddkurzbard

    Жыл бұрын

    That was actually Paul Gallico during the war. He had been on board as a soldier at the time.

  • @TheCarnivalguy

    @TheCarnivalguy

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s an outstanding model of the Queen Mary that was built for the film. The opening sequence showing the Poseidon battling the storm is phenomenal. Add John Williams’ score and it becomes one of the most iconic title sequences in film history.

  • @th8257
    @th8257 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting that Imperator didn't make the list. Famous for its rolling, necessitating extreme measures such as trimming the funnels, pouring concrete into the hull and removing heavy fixtures and furniture. On top of that, it had electrical wiring problems which nearly caused disastrous fires.

  • @monsieurcommissaire1628

    @monsieurcommissaire1628

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, SS "Limperator"! You're quite right. It is actually somewhat difficult to find a photograph where the ship is fully upright.

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely one for next episode :)

  • @josephlopresti26
    @josephlopresti264 ай бұрын

    Cannot justify why I continue to educate myself. Few people I know try to improve their minds. Thanks muchly.

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 Жыл бұрын

    Yet something else I've learnt about Titanic here, in that it was considered too impractical to extend the watertight bulkheads further up the ship's hull. I can see why they thought it sufficient to be fair. BTW that Italian liners sister looks to have a very large superstructure, I guess the loss described explains why fitting out takes place after launch. Keep up the good work Mike!

  • @bonnietrujillo4142
    @bonnietrujillo4142 Жыл бұрын

    Great video can you do a video of the Sheer and Camber deck and explain how they are measured.

  • @DerpyPossum
    @DerpyPossum Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes we can all feel like an SS Principessa Jolanda…

  • @scottmacleod6301
    @scottmacleod6301 Жыл бұрын

    I've got a dinner menu from the Lusitania dated Thursday, July 13th 1911. Great grandfather and another relative used to go to Scotland quite regularly in those days I guess.

  • @TopHatTITAN
    @TopHatTITAN Жыл бұрын

    Lusitania was SO eager to serve her company, she wagged her stern 🤣

  • @thatguy.mp7950
    @thatguy.mp7950 Жыл бұрын

    I find it ironic that ships like the great eastern, which had incredible safety from sinking, had aspects that weren't carried over to the Olympic class or many others until the double hull was made required.

  • @gaylebaker8419
    @gaylebaker8419 Жыл бұрын

    That was "Galloping Gertie," the Tacoma Narrows bridge, not the bridge you described as affected by soldiers marching. It broke up for a different reason.

  • @kaykaliszewski555
    @kaykaliszewski55510 ай бұрын

    Good Content in a fashioned Way, Keep up the great WORK!

  • @gailmrutland6508
    @gailmrutland6508 Жыл бұрын

    *Exceptional work, Kudos!*

  • @willoverkill8461
    @willoverkill8461 Жыл бұрын

    Terrific episode, I didn't know that about the Mary. There was a German ship as well (I think), they offset the funnels to one side for more space on the decks but it created a list because of the weight imbalance. They cut the funnels shorter and did some redecorating inside to correct but it never fixed it. I can't find the name but it'll come to me

  • @matthewbowen5841

    @matthewbowen5841

    Жыл бұрын

    Limperator?

  • @cram1816

    @cram1816

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean the Imperator i guess ?

  • @willoverkill8461

    @willoverkill8461

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the one, thank you!

  • @ohlawdy6855

    @ohlawdy6855

    Жыл бұрын

    Imperator, but the funnels were traditionally placed, it's sister ships though, split the funnel uptakes to both sides of the ship to create more deck space for wide sweeping rooms, and they did not suffer from the rolling the first ship had!

  • @th8257
    @th8257 Жыл бұрын

    The problem with the America very similar to the Bremen, whose funnels also needed to be raised for similar reasons.

  • @robertknowles2699

    @robertknowles2699

    Жыл бұрын

    Either raise the funnel structure or hand out hoodies with draw-string to aft deckies.

  • @tracylloyd1124
    @tracylloyd1124 Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic video! Thank you Mike!

  • @shannon-wise
    @shannon-wise Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this vid! Fascinating details. My sis is getting married on the Queen Mary in Long Beach in Sept 2023. I'm super excited to explore it. Staying the nite on the ship as well..... Still looking for a date haha

  • @chloedevlin6544
    @chloedevlin6544 Жыл бұрын

    I've always been fascinated with history but I found myself stuck on your channel for quite a while I just want to say thank you for your work and I appreciate what you do! Please excuse lack of punctuation, I don't have a lot of time at the moment.

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching, Chloe!

  • @hudsonslim3169

    @hudsonslim3169

    Жыл бұрын

    You don't have enough time to use punctuation but you have enough time to write that you don't have enough time to use punctuation?

  • @darthixion957
    @darthixion957 Жыл бұрын

    Think you could do a vid on SS Principessa Mafalda, particularly its sinking? I'd love for you to work your magic on such a little known tragedy.

  • @KindersVanYAHWEH
    @KindersVanYAHWEH Жыл бұрын

    What an informative channel! Absolutely wonderful content. Thank you very much, I enjoy every video. Keep up the good work.

  • @MarksKicksOnRoute66
    @MarksKicksOnRoute66 Жыл бұрын

    Sir you are the best Ole Soul on KZread! Love your content and knowledge!

  • @rlanza1054
    @rlanza1054 Жыл бұрын

    Your channel must of been promoted because I found one episode in my recommendations. And I loved how you put together your content. And for some reason a British accent is very pleasing to me. My neighbor and older woman (we are both American and from NYC) says she has trouble understanding the words. We watch a lot of BBC TV here because a lot is now being streamed to America. I actually signed up for Britbox & PBS. So we watch a lot of British shows. There are some British accents that are harder to understand but I suspect its a Welch accent and not British. But I should get back to your content. I like how you made the Titanic interesting again. I thought I knew most about it. But you have brought new details. And I am starting to watch your other postings. Thanks and Good Luck! Rob PS Wait are you Australian? Which I did visit Australia back in 1997

  • @noahgallant2753
    @noahgallant2753 Жыл бұрын

    I remember reading about the Principessa Jolanda and it was one of the ships that got me interested in maritime history and specifically ocean liners. I remember the books they all came in this black hard cover with gold lettering. Anybody remember what the series was or the author? I'd love to get these books back.

  • @Freespeech141
    @Freespeech14110 ай бұрын

    My grandfather was on the Carpathia on the voyage rescuing Titanic survivors. My father sailed most of WWII on Queen Elizabeth, carrying troops from USA to UK. He said they were always fully laden NY to UK but empty on the way back so she could reach full speed in her battleship grey, safe from being torpedoed. He told of troops sleeping on decks, not enough berths, and meal service being constant! Had to feed all those men. My mum was his gf through the war, so she and her sisters appreciated the goodies he brought back from NY, nylons and other items hard to get during rationing. Yes! We’re all from Liverpool! Many merchant navy families there.

  • @Jaymachine
    @Jaymachine Жыл бұрын

    Your style of presentation is second to none!

  • @jfangm
    @jfangm Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, the idea with Titanic was that she could arrest her sinking long enough to either make it port or in time for rescue ships to arrive. Had she run into trouble in late summer, or during the day, nearly all of her passengers and crew would likely have been saved. It was really the circumstances of her sinking that doomed so many. However, she still stayed afloat longer than any of her contemporaries would have, even with 5 of her compartments breached. Lusitania sank in less than 20 minutes, taking a far greater percentage of her passengers and crew down with her, and the damage was not nearly as severe as that sustained by Titanic. Had their roles been reversed, Lusitania would have gone done far faster than Titanic, and Titanic likely could have weathered the torpedo that sank Lusitania so quickly. At the very least, she would have taken long enough to sink that the majority of her compliment could have survived.

  • @eckligt
    @eckligt Жыл бұрын

    In modern ships, I wonder if you would be interested in doing a video on the near-catastrophy that the cruise ship Viking Sky had off the coast of Norway in 2019. Just a suggestion.

  • @Tailpipe26
    @Tailpipe26 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. Full of expert knowledge of a bygone era. Thank you.

  • @blackhawks81H
    @blackhawks81H Жыл бұрын

    KZread algorithm with a rare massive W... This is unique, incredibly well made content.. Seriously. Excellently done videos man. I hit subscribe about a minute in. Keep up the good work!

  • @OceanlinerDesigns

    @OceanlinerDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    That's great! Welcome aboard :)

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