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Porcupine Puffers are great fish, provided you set up a tank for them alone. They're great company. We forget these are wild animals that live in a harsh world. Expecting them to play well with others is often a bad idea. Something I learned the hard way.

Lmao, man when you said " when it comes to clown tangs, they are all... just.. bastards.." I busted out laughing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I had a Snowflake Eel that was both my favorite fish and my least favorite depending on the day. It was very tame and would eat from my hand but as soon as I left the room it would jump out of the tank. After a couple time I sealed the tank up quite tight, but it still would find a way to get out around the filter hanging on the back. I walked in from work one day to find it behind the tank and completely dried up. I put him in a bowl of water from the tank and it came right back to life though.

@longgroove

2 жыл бұрын

So many times I found my eel in my sock drawer. Wow... unintentionally dirty

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

2 жыл бұрын

predator tanks especially with ells or octipy must be fully planned for and purpose built...in genral they need a more professional set up with a large plumbed sump system...not hang ons and canisters witch make it hard to keep them safe and maintain due to the bioload.

I agree! I've been keeping Marine fish for over 40 years and your comments validate my own thoughts about the same fish. Thank You!

"all just bastards" 😂😂😂😂😂

@christerspedersen2173

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was already laughing from the comment about them being traumatized as young😂

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

2 жыл бұрын

not at all...there are just 2 schools of thought when it comes to marines...you either purpose build for coral and only keep a few little colourful things or you double the filtration and tank sise and plan around predators...this video is my dream list and I've had most of them...some like coral others likethe fish more like ells rays lions and massive animals...all just preferences.

When you started your list, I could see my aquarium life... I went for almost all of them except the Tang.... I guess we have to live these experiences... Thank you so much for your great content. All the best

had a 90 gallon reef tank. my last addition was to be my center piece fish. a beautiful majestic. the second that fish hit the water it went to town on my xenia. nothing else just the xenia. with in two days i had a xenia free tank lol. if you have a xenia take over of your tank I highly recommend a majestic angle. never touched any other coral.

Love this style of video

I loved this video 😂. I know zip about fish, so it’s good to learn as I journey my way thru this new hobby of mine.

Thanks, this gave me some great info :)

Thanks for the video!

Nice video! Thinking of doing a reef tank with just cardinals

With Dwarf Angels it's not if they'll eat coral but when!

Great video

I'm enjoying my Porcupine Puffer as he has a very distinct personality and my kids enjoy feeding him... he literally jumps out the water to say "hi" however.... he almost needs his own tank, with one large blue tang that seems to not be scared of him, all the small fish have now mysteriously disappeared in the night!

I’d like to add to this list: •Sixline Wrasse - Psychopaths. •Aiptasia eating filefish - ate Acro polyps, ignored Aips. •Diamond bar Goby - buries corals overnight, or constantly scatters sand from midwater.

@Plasmoidend

2 жыл бұрын

Are sixline reef safe? Not sure why mine ate my gonio polyps.. but doesn’t touch my other coral

@Dan-lg4ti

2 жыл бұрын

FWIW for anyone reading I had a good experience with my biota aptasia eating filefish. He ate aptasia and never touched my corals. I recommend paying more For the captive bred ones as they’re generally considered reef safe but can be a risk still

@superdragon3060

Жыл бұрын

I mean apatasia eating filefish are not considered reef safe and like FOWLR and I will buy one For a 40g I will mąkę in a bit with like an angel and other non reef safe fish

I have a clown tang and he is growing and very well. A very active fish but can also be a little mean to my hippo tangs. He was aggressive for a short period of time then stopped. I’m not usually having problems with him and he is a stunning fish (although they can get aggressive sometimes). In general, I have not have any problems with him and he is one of my most favorite fish ad well as the boss of the tank.

Great Vid, informative and entertaining.

Mine was my bicolour Blenny, he was one of the later additions to my tank but literally bullied, chased and shredded the fins as well as seriously stressed out fish up to 3 times his size, had to rehouse him and my lfs said they’d never heard of such a thing!

@The-Fishkeeper

Жыл бұрын

Blennies can be real assholes. I had to get rid of my starry blenny because it was bullying a puffer about 6 times its size.

@brendonrookes1151

11 ай бұрын

@@The-Fishkeeper i had a blue damsel do that to my lion fish its like ffs dude ur way biger then him fucking eat him

I've had 3 of the 5... guess I need to learn for my new build

I encourage you to give lions another try, this time with dwarves (especially dwarf fuzzies!!). They’re absolute joys. Mine is super active, especially whenever he sees me. Very intelligent, he recognizes me out of the rest of the people on the house. He doesn’t eat other fish, although this works on a fish to fish basis. Some eat other fish, some don’t. Feeding can be a bit more intensive, mine only ate live ghost shrimp for the longest time until recently when I got him to eat large frozen mysis. Even if you have to put in effort with feeding (instead of just dropping dry food into the tank), it’s a joy to watch em eat.

Oh man I have so many of these in my mixed reef and they are all doing great. I’ve got a Porcupine Puffer, Foxface, Coral Beauty, and Clown Tang. I will admit the Clown Tang is the smallest yet most dominant fish in my tank but these are all 1-2 years old and doing great.

I wish you had posted this one a few weeks ago!! New to the hobby. In a rash moment I ignored all the good advice on KZread about not making impulse buys and bought a small Clown Tang because we liked the colours. (I blame my wife because I wanted to get a Royal Gramma but she preferred the Clown Tang!!) It was hyper from the moment I put it in the tank. It seemed to eat most foods and did nibble on algae. My nice Banggai Cardinal died a week after I introduced the Clown Tang - I don't think it was being aggressive towards it but just stressed it with its constant swimming laps at turbo speed! My Dart Fish disappeared into the rock never to be seen again. Could it have also nibbled on small Zoas because some of mine started to disappear? Everything went from peaceful to way too frantic so I bought a fish trap and returned it to my LFS. I did first try to catch it in a net - zero chance is an understatement! But I did have fun with the trap - took me 3 days to get the little b*****d Cost me £33 as I only got 30% of the value back on the Tang plus £42 for a fish frap and £39 for a small replacement tank bred Banngai. So in total a £114 mistake and my poor Banggai paid the ultimate price for my mistake - which is the only thing I really care about The tank has now returned to its former serenity and my Dart Fish is out and about again ! No more impulse buys and 100% no 2nd Clown Tang

I had the same issues with my magnificent fox face when I got into the hobby seven yrs ago. It took awhile but one day it took a liking to my lobos and trachys, so I had to sell him.

I didn't know porcupine puffers could be so aggressive. I had an adult, and it was so tame and wouldn't come near most of my fish. It ate my starfish tho

@SoundlessFantasy

8 ай бұрын

If their well fed they don’t effect your tank mates but when you skip a meal they do get naughty

Thank you!

The clown tang commentary was so spot on and funny

For me it was a lemon damsels. That fish bullied my other fish ruthlessly. Never messed with my clown fish, but all others were bullied to near death. It was impossible to catch it. I finally bought a trap and got em. Brought him to my local fish store and they took him and gave him to someone setting up a new tank. Never again!

Lol the hate towards the clown tang 😂😂

I had the same problem with my Fox face.It was sad. I had him for seven years.I tried in the end,he got a new home.

I have a flame and coral beauty in my reek tank with no issue. 3 plus years.

The only puffer I would ever consider putting in a reef tank is the Valentine I have and even that would be under caution in the one I have is very docile It's hard to say no to all the beautiful colors and the fish themselves but I don't do coral tanks for that reason alone

I have the same reason I always avoid lions. Although, dwarf lions don’t get quite so big but are still relatively restrictive My magnificent avoids all sorts of coral, It’s my second attempt, kept both for 2 years. Absolutely love these guys, keep them well fed and they should avoid all fish. Totally agree on you with the others though! Absolutely hate clown tangs… The 1 inch specimens are nightmares and even the largest tangs probably wouldn’t be able to keep them from shanking other fish

My foxface likes zoas. For people who like large tangs try the naso tang. Generally more peacefull. I myself more into bristletooh tangs and have a tomini tang. There is also a desjardini sailfin tang in my tank.

Puffer sounded like it want being fed enough.

I have had only 1 clown tang and he was a model citizen. I had him in my tank with a yellow and purple tang and they all got along together very well. Unfortunately I lost him during a vacation because the heater went out. 😕

@brendonrookes1151

11 ай бұрын

i take it you learnt the age old if you got one you got none mantra

I have fox face rabbit fish hes cool feed him by hand He's a the size he is hides is the a small fish touching him or my tang. Or any changes done to the reef.

for me - 6 line wrasse immediately killed off both my dartfish later i got a flame back angelfish that got killed by it too constantly restricts which fish i can get and I always have to think of it when im buying fish

I'm a fowler predator tank lover and you litteraly just described my dream tank and I've had most of them ...only thing I'm still to get is blue spot ray and epaulette shark

@brendonrookes1151

11 ай бұрын

id love those two but they need a serious set up that i cant house

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

11 ай бұрын

​@brendon rookes yeah that's why I havnt had my dream list as yet...I'm getting a 6ft reef and a 12 ft predator tank...with oversisded filtration sence I love all the super messy fish.

@brendonrookes1151

11 ай бұрын

@@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army i had a wobbygong for a while we had a power outage and he didnt make it the tank we had him in was quite large if i owned a house id build a tank big enought to get another but this time with back ups for my back ups in alot of ways i was to new to the hobby

Add the copperband butterfly.

Porcupine puffer is the species not just yours, Had 2 of these guys in my 15 years of reef keeping. 1st never had problems, However was kept in an all predator reef tank along with a pair of lionfish, snowflake eel and a few groupers. Most recent tried in my community reef fine for awhile kept him fed and happy....then, one night he ate 3 of my 4 decorative clowns 🤦‍♂️ right back to my lfs shared the story and was in disbelief of this happening as he had never heard of them eating clownfish. Anyone looking to purchase these puffers, use caution with your smaller fish!!!!!!!

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

2 жыл бұрын

for this type of reason...ile never get corals...I'm a hard core big predator animal person only...the soul reason for my previous marine tanks were blue spot ray sharks lions ells and other predators...the only so callded pritty fish I'd get would be queen and regal blue face bat fish foxface banners ect...coral Is pretty but for me a marine tank is all about to big and bad boys....looking forward to my outdoor marine pond with zebra sharks wobbygongs big rays ect.

@superdragon3060

Жыл бұрын

Puffers belong in sp only change My mind

@superdragon3060

Жыл бұрын

@@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army same i like large fish and the small ones are not reef safe there are only 2 tanks out of the like 10 i want at some point a 3g with sexy shrimp and another small shrimp im starting soon(will be challanging) with majanos cause they coexist and a tall tank i have i will probably Just keep one damsel in, once i move the freshwater fish in the tank to their new tank, the dimensions are like a 10g Just taller

@brendonrookes1151

11 ай бұрын

again if it can fit in it mouth it will end up there unless there herbivors not if when

Brilliant and thank you for the video! Spot on with all of them. Of the 4 Fox face I have owned - 1 - just 1 - ended up costing me over $400 to replace all the fish it caught. I am glad what you said about the Clown Tang. R2R has aquarists that say they're just fine with no issues - while most - like you said - no way. And I am glad I listened to that inner voice. Thanks again for sharing your experience!

@brendonrookes1151

11 ай бұрын

fish are like people some are just cunts

I regret buying a carpet anemone, it looked like a stalk of Broccoli…innocent but ate, stung/caused the death of over $600 worth of fish. The fish were dying and I thought I had a ammonia burns so I’m doing water changes after water changes until fish after fish. I realized it the anemone that was my enemy enemy. They had a very telltale burn until I finally saw him kill a trigger fish I bought all the silly little bugger did, just touch it now it’s enough within an hour. It was dead.

I have the purple angel ..hé is reef safe.. probally cuz its the only 1. Question : cannyou put a a fuzzy dwarf lionfish with smaller fish. .i.a clownfish ,kardinale..

@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis

9 ай бұрын

not unless you want them to get eaten

Mine are purple firefish and royal gramma... Both are always hidden except when it's time to eat. Waste of biospace in my small tank!

what is that at 5.15 ? those teeth ( marine animals are fascinating )

Hey, I also had a 400 gallon tank and been in the house before 20+ years but in salt water I would say I’ve been there around 10 Oh, what I would agree with you is the puffer I had three of those I tried, and each time they would create trouble they would die on me, and then the last one started eating my expensive corals couldn’t do anything about it I had to return him to the shop, even though he was so cool, looking like a puppy the yellow color one. But what I wanted to comment is this because I am a maximalist. I would put a lot of different fish in the system and I noticed that sometimes weird things happened like soon as you add one fish, it would trigger other fishes to change their hierarchy, and sometimes a peaceful fish, like green wrasse , that never touched, nobody becomes like a maniac literally killing other fish like crazy and then I added some other fish and then he just switched back to normal after giving me trouble for around a year but the worst fish I ever encountered was blue powder tang it was maniac of all the maniacs. I think that’s one of the worst fish you can keep first of all gives you trouble constantly have an ich , even though my system was very established and then their aggression is beyond crazy.

My powder blue is the nicest fish in the tank!

i have yet to see a completely ich free powder blue tang.... even ones that goes though quarantine somehow magically end up getting it in the future. Even in this video @4:52 it looks like it has a ich spot. 😁 I love that tang... ,but i'll hard pass on them.

The worst fish I’ve every had was an engineer goby. Followed by and coral beauty that killed one of my snowflake long fin round tip clownfish

Yeah I’m so happy I don’t have a fox face anymore! Ate all my corals 😣

My Flame & Sailfin ate corals, so far no problem with Foxface. Live and learn

@gospelofrye6881

2 жыл бұрын

Last foxface I had, ate all my clavularia and ignored all the other corals, including pachyclavularia. Maybe they taste really different. :)

That’s pretty insane, lionfish!? Venomous and invasive

Try fresh water pea puffers in a well scaped and plantedtank, rock andwood both are desired The more caves and hiding places the more entertained they are discovering all the hidey holes. 40 gallo breeder minimum for 4 puffers 1 male and thre females is the general rule of thumb. And yes some puffers attack tank mates. depends on the puffer.

@Shaden0040

2 жыл бұрын

Allpufers need shells to chew onto self trim their teeth, so give them frozen clams on the half sheel and live snails toeat for your larger puffers and pond snail and ramshorn snails for your smaller ones, like the pea puffer (freshwater) and the green puffer (brachish). Leave the shell remnants in the tank they will chew on them instead of other fish, generally. Some just won't tollerate tank mates/

Red Sea cleaner wrasse - eats LPS

Fish can be so unpredictable!

Royal Gramma- I love them but I cannot keep them alive and I have no idea why

You couldn't have been more right when you placed the Foxface Rabbit fish on this list. Mines was not only very skittish, he would also eat my sponges and clove polyps. I waited patiently with a piece of Nori in a fish trap. Caught him after 2 days and off to the pet store he went! Good riddance!!!

And this is why I plan on having a fish only system or even a basic system. No corals means no problem for me and the fish are the center of attention.

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

2 жыл бұрын

completely agree my only reason for a marine tank at all is for lions fanfare massive angels rays sharks ect...coral is for pritty little fish...but I love the big bad boys.❤😊...a fowler system with an oversisded tank and sump is best for this goal.

@superdragon3060

Жыл бұрын

@@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army hello fellow lionfish and large angel enjoyer

Purple tangs and sixlines can be fine for years. And I mean years with the same set of fish. Then just one day turn into mental cases

If u keep them feed and happy normaly I don't have any problem s.

Love my flame angel.

@high_reefing

2 жыл бұрын

I also considuring buying a flame angel, does he stay off your coral?

@RobBoryckiGolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@high_reefing she’s well fed. Never has ever touched a coral. Does graze on algae. Model citizen

@jaylenwilliams7926

2 жыл бұрын

How many times do u feed your angel?

@RobBoryckiGolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaylenwilliams7926 the fish get the selcon diet. Which is salmon scallop shrimp and clam blended with selcon. Amazing diet once a day. But also treats like blood works and nori. So between. 1-3 times daily. Nutrients always in check with carbon dosing

@davidmurphy4672

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobBoryckiGolf I had a flame angel it got stuck in the rocks and died :(. He took small bites of every coral in the tank out of curiosity. They were not like you could see the bites but they were like the smallest nibbles. He did kill an entire clam by nipping it and it got stressed to death. When it died the fish ate it like crazy. Now I was dumb and put a hippo tang and listened to the LFS guy and didn't research and the tang was too big. He ate a huge chunk of Acan coral. The flame angel is my favorite fish. I recommend feeding the flame angelfish with sponges. There is special angelfish frozen cubes that have sponge in it. The sponges start growing in my tank from the food a non threatening kind and flame angel was in heaven. Also flame angels eat sponges in the wild as a tip :). I am gonna get a bigger tank next time before I add one. He ate all my green hair like it was candy. :)

try to catch blueback angel fish😅

I own every single one mentioned for over 5 years. Lol

i have all these fish 😳😳😳😳

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

2 жыл бұрын

there's nothing wrong with thoes fish there just suited for a fowler predator tank not a reef tank.

@UBISOFT-DINOHUB1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army ok thank you Because it worried me

Mine was a clown goby 🤣 Hated the f*** for eating my Acans 🤣

Ugh! Hand fed?!? What a royal pain in the ass. The puffers eyes are so captivating. I’ve read puffers (even freshwater ones) can’t be kept w other fish, only other puffers.

You cannot put any puffer in with coral and not expect them a buffet There are a few puffers that are Reef compatible but for the most part you never put a puffer in a reef tank ever

Elephantnose fish...they're suicidal. No matter how well you seal the top of your tank, you'll find them dried up on the floor the next day.

The worst fish I’ve ever owned is a frog fish. I had a hi that was twice the frog fish’s size that I figured the frog fish wouldn’t bother with. Needless to say, the hi hat was gone within a day and the frog fish died with a completely full stomach.

Porcupine puffers are hit and miss with other fish. They're definitely more likely than true puffers to eat other fish. I never had coral beauties eat corals, but I have found them to be complete assholes. Always found them to be more aggressive than other dwarf angels.

I don’t know how I ended up here I keep freshwater fish

I still rememer my lionfish, I will never get one ever!!!! Frustrating feeding them.

For me it has to be the Powder Blue Tang. Forgive my language, but they're absolute b**tards and don't play well with other fishes. I've tried (over the years) adding them last, using the acclimation box, buying juveline/small size, trying with medium size (the usual size you get at the LFS)... nothing. Also - - they can literally be the gauge to your tank water condition. If any fish were to fall sick first, it will be the PBT. Even after a proper QT and all, if it isn't ich, it's something else. I know there are other 'more expert' fishes, but PBTs just don't play nice. Unless you have a mammoth 500 gallon tank and add in a dozen PBTs, having just 1 of this in your tank can really be a nightmare.

nice miss ❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😅

I thought you was done doing videos.

@PrestigeReef

2 жыл бұрын

Who said that? I never stopped, they just weren’t posted every week

Dont agree with lionfish being bad it limit s tankmates but its one of the most beautiful fish, the puffers are great but some are agressors(both arent reef safe but almost all the beauties arent) . 2 of these are one of My favourite fish

My valentini puffer ate my clowns fins :(

Dude don’t shit on coral beauties. You just got unlucky after getting very very very lucky with all those pigmy angels.. you pushed it and got burned. Plain and simple.

Sounds like you didn’t research puffer fish much.

😂😂😂you just listed half of the fish going in my predator only tank...just don't put them in a reef tank easy...you either love your fish or your corals...downside or save up and have 2 tanks.

I never brought salt water fish hurd very hurd work has tropical fish 🐠 🐟 😐 😕 😑

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

2 жыл бұрын

its not much different realy unless you get coral...but if you just want fish only with liverock then it's fine...but they are more expensive as you can use treated tap water...you have to make or buy fresh salt water all the time.

Clown tangs are the devil

The clown and sohal tangs are the fish inpersination off satan.

Worst for YOU!!! Not for eveyrone else lol

"Foxface" =..)

And why would you buy a lion fish? That's crazy. LOL! They look absolutely AWFUL

Haha thx for the vid now i wont buy these

you basically hate everything you bought, have ever bought anything worth?

The fish you regreat buying are the ugliest fish ever hahaha

Foxface - yuk

@sunnygoold9449

2 жыл бұрын

and that porcupine sounds like the most horrible fish ever

@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army

2 жыл бұрын

foxface ...one of the most amazing and beautiful predator tank fish ever.

I had a dwarf angel tank too and everything was great until... Year goes by nothing going on. The mutlicolor(my dream angel back then) was fat and healthy. I am thinking I am a fish god at this point and start planning for a chilled nautilus tank as my next build. In the next few months the Eibli angel mercs every fish in the tank. He even killed the blenny. I have never seen anything like it. 1 fish lived through that. Clown tang. Clown tang that has sliced my arm multiple times and splashes me if I get too close to his tank. I have a gangster ass Eibli and a Clown tang running my tank. Tang eats soft corals like xenia too. Such a dick.

Don’t agree with fox face