4:16 cinematic masterpiece

Thanks a ton for having us on! Was a lot of fun collabing with a real life Viking 🫡

@the37thagent31

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Y’all colabing is crazy to me in the best way! Much needed thank you!

@2ToRamble

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@@the37thagent31👊

@some5794

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Guys!!!!! I love you soooo much!!!! I’m so glad you did a collab with him. This is SOOOO cool. P.S: im a dude. I just read that and it sounded like a fan girl

@2ToRamble

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@@some5794😂 Thanks dude

I love Fantasy because I know what the real world is like so I like to explore and another. And obviously magic and things like that are brilliant.

@costelinha1867

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True. Not to mention fantasy gives you a nice framework to explore ideas from the real world in a more unique way.

@adamnesico

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As a conservative youtuber says, you hate real world, so u prefer to imagine other. I love books about real world, and personally find books about other cultures more fantastical.

@AnthonyKane-qr3eh

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@adamnesico not at any point did I say I hate the world. I love the real world I have as I've made it the best I can. I also love to escape that world at times to places beyond what some people struggle to even conceive. They are amazing and ripe for tasting and enjoying. Which is what i do. I hope this clarification helps you understand my perspective on Fantasy.

This might have been even more true in the past than today, but: there have been so many great fantasy works that are either for kids, or accessible to younger readers, that: Love Fantasy Reason: Many readers develop a love of fantasy when they're young, that they keep when they grow older. Hate Fantasy Reason: Fantasy has too often been perceived as "for children" or for those with immature tastes.

@hawk66100

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Being perceived for children couldn’t be further from the truth though as many series are specifically written for an adult audience such as A song of Ice and Fire, The First Law, Malazan Book of the Fallen, The Night Angel series. I absolutely love series like these that don’t shy away or gloss over anything, they are dark and gritty.

I don’t hate fantasy, I hate the booktubers who cover it extensively. Where are the crime reccomendations, the westerns, literally any other genre for the love of god

@QueenoftheBlackCoast

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Try CriminOlly's channel. He does crime,pulp and horror. Michael K. Vaughan's channel does classics, comic books, Westerns,etc.

YES I LOVE 2 to ramble!

@2ToRamble

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WOOO. Thanks for the love Ozzy 👊

Excellent analysis - and it's quite the balancing act to navigate the expected tropes and the almost inevitable pitfalls.

This is going to be my favourite video of the month. Seriously😁 Just started The great hunt❤

@noname3609

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The great hunt is no doubt better than Eye of The world.Really hope u get to Shadow Rising though, I absolutely loved that book!!!!🙏🙏🙏

Fun video, and some sound points there… I’m guessing your editor was very caffeinated for this one ☕️

@libraryofaviking

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Thank you! Haha!

How to file a restraining order against video editor 😂😂😂

That ending was awesome! Very nice video.

@libraryofaviking

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Glad you liked it!

I get really vivid imagery when I read books and nothing comes close to Fantasy in giving me those amazing moments. My mind goes ultra creative and creates these huge worlds that just can't be properly put to screen. When someone describes a dark lord, my mind goes to the darkest places and makes them out to be this horrific creature. Then I see the movie version and it's just a guy in cool armor. Your mind will always create a more visually stunning portrayal of things and that's why I love reading.

@Henry-jp3mc

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I always like to put an actors face to each character. Making your own movie in your head is much better than anything Hollywood makes 😂

@hawk66100

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@@Henry-jp3mc In The First Law trilogy I always picture Arch lector Sult as Terence Stamp and I picture Jezel Dan Luthar as a younger Nickolaj Coster-waldau.

Love this collab

Really great video! I really relate to loving the fantasy community because it feels like having actual friends, lol. Yeah sure there are some toxic fandoms, but for the most part I think readers are some of the most compassionate and empathetic people I've ever encountered!

@libraryofaviking

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Thank you! Yes, the fantasy community is generally absolutely amazing 🤩

Hi 👋 great video 🎥🎥

The alchemist is one of my favorite books

Downside: the inevitably significant amount of DNFs you’ll encounter along with the accompanying though short-lived (usually) exasperation/frustration.

Unless it's done by an author I usually read (Stephen King, Nora Roberts), I rarely read fantasy. I've been surprised watching BookTube how popular fantasy is.

What a fun and insightful video! thanks. I know everyone would have a different opinion but sometimes I wonder what would be a good fantasy book to entice a reader to try the genre for the first time. a gateway book, so to speak. Personally I think Abercrombie's The Blade itself would be a good starter. Just try one, if you don't like it you don't have to read the next one .....

2:03 excuse me? HOLY WHAT?

In The end There’s more to love in fantsy than hate, and i ‘m agree with you guys. Thank you);

@costelinha1867

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It's really all about personal preference in the end of the day.

@lucagianchino6404

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@@costelinha1867 Always My slogan;)

@costelinha1867

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@@lucagianchino6404 But yeah, in my personal opinion, I think there's a lot more to love than to hate in Fantasy. And fantasy (Mainly Brandon Sanderson) is being a great justifier for me to read more, to the point where I may even end up getting a Kindle.

@lucagianchino6404

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@@costelinha1867 Exactly!That’s What i said;)

Yep plot Armor is something that people really hate 😂

Hello, lovers (and I guess haters) of fantasy. I'm looking to start a good Fantasy series. I've never read a fantasy book, but I do enjoy the genre because I really enjoyed movies/series such as Harry Potter, Game of thrones, LOTR, Outlander, Avatar, and anime/manga such as Attack on titan, Naruto, Hunter X Hunter, Berserk, Jujustu Kaisen, Death Note and much more. But anyways I'm looking for something that has a very good intricate and connected storyline with lots of plot twists and some mystery and other themes too. I'm ok with romance but as long as the plot isn't heavliy focused on it. I'm into page-turners I mainly read fiction books, thrillers, mystery, and suspense. If it doesn't have me wanting to find out what's going to happen next it's very hard for me to stick with it. I like some complexity to my stories and characters like Game of Thrones and Naruto. Would love some recommendations and tell me why you are recommending it. Thanks in advance.

Deus Ex Machina only happens if the writer wrote himself in a corner, they couldn't create tension and conflict, stakes, without relying on the improbable. So many fantasy writers fall into this pitfall, unfortunately. I don't necessarily believe hard magic solves this, it's purely a writing problem, in my opinion, they should just stop writing themselves into a corner; there are many ways to create tension and stakes.

Not sure what this would be listed under, but the sidekick/childhood friend/companion that goes missing/gets sidetracked/disappears/is killed and then advantageously/conveniently shows up towards the end of the book to team-up with/reunite/join their friend and carry the day.

@rebeccadey

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That would be a trope, and though tropes exist in every book and aren't necessarily bad, they do run the risk of becoming cliche, like your example, or Johan's example in the video of the farm boy becoming a hero. You gotta make it make sense or put a fresh spin on it.

The reason I‘ve been given for not liking or not reading fantasy is, wait for it, they’re not real places or people and magic?! I mean, duh!

@Steve_Stowers

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Indeed! Plenty of people have dismissed fantasy as being worthless because it's not about the real world. And plenty of other people have defended it against such dismissals. (This really deserves way more discussion than is possible in a brief comment.)

@hawk66100

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Which is funny because most stories/novels are fictional stories unless they are history/autobiographies.

@adamnesico

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I think is a valud point. People who had to work real hard in life despise such nonsense who gives no help to survive.

I don't think hard magic necessarily eludes deus ex machina. There's almost always some part of the system that has not been explained yet.

@costelinha1867

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Mistborn The Final Empire is proof of that, as the ending of that book is a literal Deus Ex Machina that Sanderson just managed to make it work for the rest of the series. But in the first book, yeah it felt like it came absolutely out of nowhere, just when the heroes needed it the most... so conviniently....

@robertdullnig3625

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@@costelinha1867 Yes, and this touches on another problem of always having to introduce new magic to keep things exciting. Fortunately he was able to "reset" a bit in Alloy of Law, but now he is back to having even more powers than at the end of Hero of Ages, plus all the tech that modifies them.

@costelinha1867

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@@robertdullnig3625 I haven't read era 2 yet, so I'll just take your criticisms at face value for now. And keep in mind, that we're supposed to get a third era eventually.

I reccomend that you don’t just call it ex machina as there is deus ex machina and diabolus ex machina (which is the same thing as deus except it is a bad thing that happens out of nowhere).

Fantasy is far more interesting than real life. I couldnt read any historical story like the Roman Empire, but chuck in a magic system and im in.

@costelinha1867

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History can be cool to learn about. But I'll always prefer a little bit of fiction you know?

@Henry-jp3mc

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@@costelinha1867 yeah im very interested in ancient history but i usually watch on tv. Or by Randal Carlson on YT. I probably wouldnt have the patience to read about it.

@adamnesico

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Real history can be too highly interesting, in fact I prefer historical books to fantasy. Just see GoT, the most succesful fantasy now is basically a collage of different historical events.

Reasons for love: 1 Escapism: Any genre can act as escapism. Weak point 2 Fandoms: I wonder why only fantasy has fandoms. Fandoms give illusion of friendship? That is like say pornography is good because it gives u the illusion of practice sex. You sound so alienated. 3 limitless creativity? not true, you are limited by the prejudices, expectations, censorship, and ur own cultural mind limitations.

Some more reasons to hate- 1)bad prose 2)no tantalizing themes 3) artless mass commercial rubbish I am not saying that every fantasy books are like that but there are a lot with these problems

I don't hate fantasy, but one thing that bothers me a lot is the shoehorned love story, like... Can I get a good story, proper world-building, with interesting characters but without one of them developing romantic feelings for another one? That's one of the reasons that is keeping me from reading Mistborns 2 and 3

@adamnesico

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Are you seriously expecting characters not engaging in any romantic ways with others? We aren’t asexual beings. I don’t see such problem in the genre, maybe u are reading too much YA oriented books.

@alexbigday1587

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I am seriously expecting that a love story won't get in the way of a fantasy story, nor be the engine that propels the main character's motivation. Sure, love can happen sometimes, but not in every fantasy story, it doesn't spice things up for me nor raises the stakes in any way; also love isn't always mutual so the fact that it's almost always corresponded makes it even less believable for me. But hey, I am just someone with a keyboard and Wi-Fi, so what do I know about it?

"Nowdays we see much more representation in fantasy" True. (Also I've heard there are autistic characters in the Cosmere, that would be even more reason for me to love it if done right. And considering how repectful Sanderson is when treating other sensitive topics like Depression or Trauma, I think he can pull it off.) (Also I'm reading Stormlight now.... I've read the first interlude today.... Syl is the best character.) Edit: And no, it wasn't easy for people to get me into Stormlight. I thought I would struggle with the length. Instead I'm struggling with crying like a 5 year old child internally every time I have to read a Kaladin chapter. (poor Kaladin.... he deserved so much better....)

@hawk66100

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I don’t know how far you are into the series, I’ve only read the first 2 so far but I can tell you that you’re in for a treat!

@costelinha1867

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@@hawk66100 I literally told in the comment that I just read the first ever interlude chapter today. So pretty early in the book.

@hawk66100

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@@costelinha1867 gotcha. I missed that lol.

Hate fantasy: Reason 6: lots of crappy YA novels with same cliches and lot of fool stuff. Reason 7: Its being used as politic adoctrination tool. Reason 8: its becoming woke. Reason 9: Too many bad tv adaptations full of stupid changes. Reason 10: it doesn’t escapes from western thinking barriers. Books about other cultures are more fantastical and surprising.