5 Quickstep GANG UP on Mathieu van der Poel…He DESTROYS them anyway | UAE Tour Stage 1 2021
Lanterne Rouge recaps the reduced bunch sprint of UAE Tour stage 1 2021, where mathieu van der poel found himself in a group of 5 quickstep riders after the crosswind splits with 110 km to go. Despite quickstep rolling multiple attacks and trying to lead out Michael Morkov, MVDP torched them in the sprint as well as Elia Viviani and David Dekker. Lanterne Rouge also looks at Mathieu van der Poel as a potential bunch sprinter as well as some of his leadouts at the Tour de France 2021 for Jasper Philipsen and Tim Merlier.
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Could MvdP .... didn't hear the rest of the question, but the answer is obviously YES.
7:06 "... problem is he doesn't have himself leading himself out". Love it
I'm convinced MvdP is capable of pretty much anything he puts his mind to on a bike.
@evanskow2577
2 жыл бұрын
well *almost* anything
@soulripper31
2 жыл бұрын
Except riding clean. Drug cheat, just like his dad.
@robbeelsas
2 жыл бұрын
@@soulripper31 just let it go man. We get it, you feel betrayed by the false idols from your youth but newsflash ... you are not that young anymore
@PaganiZondaF650hp
2 жыл бұрын
As long as his sauce is good
@saxy1player
2 жыл бұрын
He's too fat to ride uphill but other than that, yeah
enjoy these retrospective analyses, keep 'em coming.
If he wanted to, he could be a top 5 sprinter. However, MVDP is an entertainer and realizes that sprint stages are just too lame.
@drym3943
Жыл бұрын
And sprinter will never be remembered as greats, except one or two per decade who won record breaking amount of races.
ridiculous video, everyone knows Remco's enemies are Eddy Merckx, Cillian Kelly and Wout van Aert
@joopie2time2killu
2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget Logan Paul
That was peak mvdp in those weeks. Wc cx, this dominant display, crazy attack with narvaez in Kuurne, thermonuclear at strade and two stage wins at Tirreno. That last stage win at Tirreno costed him the best form of his life though.
@D0nKeY
2 жыл бұрын
He wasnt too bad at the tdf though was he. stage 2? that was insane. going twice. then the time trial etc. Hes always in form. after the tdf he just had back issues and it hampered him a bit at the worlds. eventhough he didnt do bad there.
@ONCEuponAtime999
2 жыл бұрын
Form of his life? The dude is 26 :D
@Olivier-wm9mh
2 жыл бұрын
@@D0nKeY after illness in tour de suisse and preparing more specifically for mtb. The scary thing for the others is that he wasn't 100% in tdf. Even though that sounds ridiculous I must admit.
@soulripper31
2 жыл бұрын
He only won the WC CX because Wout had a flat tire while leading the race. VDP was making mistakes left & right before Wout's flat tire (like often happens when he is put under pressure).
@D0nKeY
2 жыл бұрын
@@soulripper31 lol dont be silly dude. Did you watch that race? mvdp crashed. came back. wout had a flat. came back. Then mvdp rode away each lap.. he gained each lap.. nothing to do with the flat did it. or did wout have a flat each lap?
Mmm, interesting question, but I think the main problem might be mvdp's character: to be an ideal sprinter you need to follow other wheels for 4-5 hours straight, and only ride in the wind for about 100-200 meters. But that's not mvdp's style: if he's bored during a race he'd rather attack with 100km to go and loose than sitting in the wheel of his teammates for hours and win. He even said in interviews that he enjoys mountainbiking more than road racing, so I'd imagine sprint stages are really boring for him. Also, he's practically half Belgian, and here in Belgium bunch sprints are not considered that important. If you want to be one of the greats, you need to be a Flandrien instead of a sprinter, so that might be a thing too.
@mikew9743
2 жыл бұрын
Age will bring about wisdom
@blackkhawkk
2 жыл бұрын
By the way, anyone practicing both MTB and road finds MTB more enjoyable, that’s a fact.
@morenoratering
2 жыл бұрын
Het is gewoon een Nederlander 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
@gladtobeangry
2 жыл бұрын
@@morenoratering Awel zulle, m is nen echte hollander, kunt ge direct aan zijn accenteke horen.
@keirfarnum6811
2 жыл бұрын
@@blackkhawkk Agree. I used to race off road in Alaska and while I would do the occasional road race, it was boring. Off road requires more skill and riding trails is endlessly entertaining; you never get time to zone out. You always have to be present and aware of what’s going on. You don’t get to bunnyhop logs at speed on a road bike or fly off jumps (and this was back in the 90s; I would bet it’s even more fun now with the better bikes).
Great video...thanks for that!! We all know that MvdP can win bunch sprints on a good day....his sprints up hill are even more impressive!!
@D0nKeY
2 жыл бұрын
yeah probably the fastest puncheur. I mean Strade Bianche is a prime example. Beating alaphillipe whos probably also considered one the best at those punchy finishes.
One thing is for sure, many have done the mistake of underestimating his sprint...and paid the price.
Have said it before: it is a wonderful time to be a cycling fan. So much talent in the ranks. Thx for the analysis. Watching this channel has increased my knowledge of the sport 100-fold.
More than seeing him contesting in a bunch sprints in GTs, I would like to dee MVDP battling for ITT. I think he got the power to compete against top tier TT riders.
Could he be a top sprinter? Hard to say. If he fully commits to it maybe. However personally I think that it is more his explosiveness he gets it from, which is why he sprints great in a reduced group or up a slope. However his top speed and holding that honestly seems to be not as great as other top 5 sprinters imo, which might be one of the reasons he doesn't participate in bunch sprints. Yes, he can achieve high power and sustain it for a time in some races, but honestly these tend to be his great days and might not happen with regular intervals as you expect for sprinters. With Van Aert for example I'd argue it being kind of the opposite, he has a great top speed and can maintain it, but his explosiveness is arguably less than some other riders, which is why he struggles more if the initial speed is low (like in really small groups with no teammate), but shines when he has a lead out/initial speed is high, like in bunch sprints. Next to that there is ofcourse MvdP's positioning, which often has been a problem in the last few years, due to which he usually has to waste more energy than necessary or just doesn't come into play. In the end I think MvdP could potentially break in the top 5 of almost all road disciplines (sprinting, ITT, punchy, ...), but for several of these he'd have to really prioritise them, which might cause other things to be less good and it definitely would demand him to focus more on road racing and maybe dropping somethings he really likes such as MTB.
@gerbensmitsable
2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis, I think you're spot on.
@RubenTheCartographer
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, and on top of that I think MvdP is the kind of rider that needs to throw his energy around in a course to dominate it. I think being a high top speed sprinter doesn't fit with his style or character at all. Preserving as much energy till the end to do the fastest last 250 meters doens't fit him I think. He is more about wearing everyone out and when everybody is 'riding on their gums' (as they say in Dutch), he will have the best sprint out of everyone left
love these analysis videos man
Props to Fabio for those photos! Peak power minutes and KOMs for the season might be a cool vid.
MvdP should focus on the green jersey next tdf
@pauljansen1137
2 жыл бұрын
I heard that WvA wants that Green Jersey next year....
@Flakey101
2 жыл бұрын
@@pauljansen1137 What WvA wants is going to have to take second place to what JV wants though
@pauljansen1137
2 жыл бұрын
@@Flakey101 true...
"Remco enemy #1" LMFAAOOOO
I think he is was to good in his junior years and early pro. Because of that he never had to ride tactical to preserve his legs, his legs are to good to have a need for that. Then when he is a bit lesser like worldchamps this year maiby also roubaix, then he you can see the bad positions he rides in. Also he let him self to be pushed back in the group a lot..... He can get way more out of himself if he rides a bit smarter :(
All that mountain biking experience with punchy uphills comes in handy when you need to put in a sprint.
Well Mørkøv had already won world tour sprints by this time. He actually won a stage in la vuelta years ago, but people will probably only remember that Tony Martin got caught by the peloton like 70 meters before the finish line xD
"Remco enemy #1" lol
wild stage....thanks for the throwback video.
i do cycling but dont understand much or watch the pro, its nice to have bucket of info well described your style is great
The best title to a video I've ever seen
I really think he can win sprint stages in the grand tours, only problem is his positioning it is very bad… in an uphill sprint ( like cauwberg) there is no one even close to him cuz he is that explosief
@liviosido763
2 жыл бұрын
Alaphilippe can destroy him
2:19 FaustoCoppi60 ?
@matthewk3233
2 жыл бұрын
Mihai the GOAT of cycling twitter.
I think bunch sprinters are a lot like track and field sprinters. The form can stay very high across a season, but I think it's about fine tuning routine and getting high level repetitions. Even the best sprinters need a lot of races to get mentally sharp. They're creatures of habit and analyze everything to a high degree. I don't think Mathieu is like that, nor would he enjoy committing to all the minutiae of bunch sprinting. It seems like he much prefers the simplicity of watt bombing other riders on short hills.
Fun that Pog sprinted and Almeida either didn't or couldn't and ended up with a 3 second time gap
MVDP owes Viviani a beer I think. Looks like quickstep were responding to his move rather than worrying about the real threat.
MvdP could absolutely be a top 5 sprinter if he was dedicated to it. I think I’d put him top 10 now just based on there being a bit of a shortage of really good bunch sprinters.
"That last stage win at Tirreno cost him the best form of his life though". Agree with this comment, digging too deep for this stage win, cost him his Spring campaign
does anyone know what helmet van der pol is wearing?
Yes he could and I think he is going for it just for ambition he is that kind of rider
Awesome. MVDP is a top 5 for sure
He can for sure do it, but he's not willing to. He's a attacker pur sang.
MVDP fears no sprinter but Caleb.
The sprint in UAE tour MVP didn't really hold his line in the final 150m IMO. I don't think he should focus on bunch sprints, he has more all around power and more chances to win races that aren't bunch type
@RubenTheCartographer
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it absolutely did not hold his line, which is less important with such a small pack but its one of the reasons why I think he wouldn't even enjoy being a large pack sprinter, because he has to constrain himself to only explode in the last 300 meters of a race plus only in a straight line. I don't think he'd ever want to commit to that
With Gianni Vermeersch his name, the ch part is silent, you don't really need to add sounds after the s
Remco enemy 😅
Gaviria was coming off a rough 2020, getting covid 2x and still suffering.
MVDP never going to be a T5 bunch sprinter- watts are there like you said, but the positioning isn't something simple he can fix just by trying one time
I think van der Poel's best chance at bunch sprints is to go like Peter Sagan did, which is to say that his team needs to get him to the front and then he surfs the wheels. Sagan never got a true train to follow, and he never was the fastest sprinter anyway; he won on guile as much as anything else in bunch sprints. Van der Poel probably finds it too risky, with too little reward, to truly commit to those bunch sprints. The likes of Kittel, Cavendish, Ewan, Jakobsen, etc. depend on them; while he does not. He goes to win mountain biking, cross-bike, and road racing classics. Very few of those are good for pure sprinters, except the Milan-San Remo Monument and some World Championship routes. To be a pure sprinter, you need to concentrate on stage wins. That is very different...
7:52 What is up with that Strava overlay? We've got: power (watts) - ok; energy (kilojoules) - glad that someone else realised that calories are deprecated; rate of energy (kilojoules per hour) - eh? Energy over time is power, you already showed that. 3452 kJ/h is 958.9 W though. What is going on?
He's faster than WVA, so yeah, he probably could.
@MDP1702
2 жыл бұрын
More explosive than Wout, I don't think he is actually faster if it is just sprinting in a peloton or at high speed. Even in the Ronde where Mathieu won in a sprint, Wout was coming over him despite both starting the sprint at almost the exact same time, had the sprint started 25-50m earlier, Wout would have gone over him.
@robbeelsas
2 жыл бұрын
Wout is like a turbocharger, he does better at higher RPM
What an absolutely horrible place to ride a bike
Did anybody notice Gaviria riding with his forehands on the bars at 3:55
Oh poor Caruso!
Spin.................... Spin............................. Spin.........................................
I think both him and WVA could be top 5 sprinters if they wanted to be.
Wow, his 15sec power might place him in some A grade Zwift races lol.
Is Fausto Coppi racing for Quick Step now?
Could he be a top 5 GT sprinter? For sure. That engine with that peak power, I doubt he would struggle to transition to that type of role if he focused on it. But why would he? He doesn't need to resort to risking a season for a win with a bunch sprint. Is he going to win 5 stages at the TdF with that attitude? Probably not, but last I heard Cavendish won't be racing anytime soon and VdP is starting his CX program in a few weeks.
Sure he could do it, has the bike skills and power for sure. With targetting bunch sprints on a regular basis he would gain the necessary tactical skills that he may lack at this moment. He seems to care more about winning in a solo gladiator mode though, and this is much safer than risking everything on the line. Especially when being probably the nr. 1 classics guy in the world (among other things). If you ask me he should quit cyclocross, and target the classics harder as he may have the ability to win all five monuments.
Why wasn't MVDP's sprint a deviation? Bend in the road? Seems like he came 2/3rd of the way across the road during his proper sprint.
@lemao_squash4486
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if this isn't considered a sprint deviation, you shouldn't be able to call anything a sprint deviation.
LR does that not count as a huge deviation? MVDP goes from middle third to left hand side crossing 2-3 lanes and sprinters to do it.
@LanterneRougeCycling
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it was. It didnt endanger Morkov because he was so far behind so it wasn't a contravention of the UCI rule on it, but I personally believe riders should just be sprinting straight in that situation because MVDP doesnt know Morkov isnt coming up inside him on the barriers
Could he beat Merlier in a sprint if they were led out by the same train?
@matthewk3233
2 жыл бұрын
I think he said Merlier is faster than him so no, but he could beat Jasper imo.
I just hope, he does not want to focus on bunch sprints in the future. Reminds me of Peter Sagan's developement in recent years and unused potential
Rip caruso
MVDP>WVA at sprinting if he wanted to. Maybe he'll go for green just so Wout won't win it.
@luuzmaster3418
2 жыл бұрын
I am 100% MvdP fan, but i don't think he can be a better bunchsprinter than WvA... but if he wants it and alpecin dont take merlier or phillipsen to the tour, MvdP could win green for sure
@matthewk3233
2 жыл бұрын
It’d be close who has the better watts to sprint. I think MVDP has a better acceleration but WVA holds speed well. MVDP is able to repeat sprints better imo so he can go for sprint points and contest stage finishes.
Sorry, but second video I am trying to follow and it's just not exciting enough to keep looking. I would try to put more excitement in the explanations and editing the journey.
In the end why would he bother , I think he is happy winning races that he likes to go for end of story !!!
I don't like sprinters. Generally sucking wheels up to the last lane. Fortunately, MDVP is more than that.
Is MVP not a top contender usually due to lack of good teammates?
MØ!rkov ø øøø. Not o. He isn’t Russian. He’s Danish
how much does MVP weights?
@sport1349
2 жыл бұрын
75 kg
VDP is most unlikely to try turn hús racing style into a sprinter, too much of a gamble on multiple levels. He found himself in the front of 6 crosswinds splits and wanted to race. VDP was not brought to the front by a QS rider, he was going to the front anyway, that's what happens when you race, you look for good positions if you have good legs.
If he really wants to, he can. But I don't think he wants to
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Can WVA win green?
Y this guy is only rank #7 in the world? I thought mvdp is in top 5 lol
mvdp is a monster
He could, but he would die of boredom on his bike... Staying put in the group for 200km ain't his style :p
Gang up? he just sits in the group and sprints
All of your videos are nice but why are you rushing your words?
he nuked it cause he didn’t do crap lol 😆 imagine the other guys fresh as well. We all know that’s cycling but he’s no Obelisk.
I don't think that's how you pronounce Morkov but then again I'm not danish
@FLX0N3
2 жыл бұрын
It is as close as you can get without being Danish. (which i am)
He could be, BUT it doesn´t fit his goals (Classics, Cyclocross, ...)
Could we all agree to never again watch a KZread video with the word DESTROY(S) in the description? Please?
First, never been so early
11:11 … :O
to play sprinter would be waste of mvdp ability. sprinters win often but are boring to watch.
Nah
That was….pure rubbish leadout by Quicksteps
You speak too fast, make no pauses, and mumble too much for me to get anything out of these videos…