You didn’t mention that the music is Star Wars on the A Team game too!

@shawnattwells5355

2 жыл бұрын

I pity the fool, who thought that was a good game!

@matthewlane518

2 жыл бұрын

Lol your right! That's crazy! I didn't think you were right cause the themes do have similar moments but lol OMG how did they not get sued! (I checked it out in emulation)

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnattwells5355 It wasn't even an officially licensed A-Team game. It was actually an early example of homebrew. Grant it, it wasn't GOOD homebrew by any stretch of the imagination

I actually really liked The Attack of the Phantom Karate Devils when I got a pirated copy as a kid. It had lots of atmosphere, and I had never seen such huge sprites, and it really felt like you were on a journey in a strange world. And as you mention, it was a very early release so it deserves some extra grace. The rest of the games are undoubtedly bad.

@Mahlercougar

2 жыл бұрын

ATTACK OF THE PHANTOM KARATE DEVILS!!! that game was awesome when I played it back then.. It was so great to see how big the characters were. Unfortunately it didnt stand the test of time and when I see it now... I thought it wasnt really that great unfortunately... I still have me C64 in pristine condition to this day! :)

@scottbreon9448

2 жыл бұрын

I look at that as more so bad it's good. Unlike Auf Weidersehen, Pet

@8_Bit

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mahlercougar I'm not arguing that Phantom Karate Devils is an awesome game, but there's no way a game both you and I liked back in the day is one of the top 5 worst C64 games. There's so many more worse games that stunk even back in the '80s.

@dogcatmouse23

Жыл бұрын

Recently saw a complete in the box A.P.K.D. sell for $200 on Ebay. It was a US seller and think it was a NTSC game and not Pal if not mistaken.

@kimvette1

Ай бұрын

The game doesn't use sprites; it's pretty obvious it uses character graphics, poorly. Notice how it draws, and notice all of the moving elements ("sprites") move a whole character block at a time, and most of the character graphics they used haven't even been redefined but just used the standard predefined set.

The A-team was obviously made by someone who never saw the show

@dogcatmouse23

Жыл бұрын

Always wondered if that A-Team game had a retail box when sold in stores or was it just copied at Commodore 64 meetup expos back in the early 80’s. I wonder if it was for NTSC or Pal. Imagine them putting Mr. T on the box art.

All i can remember about the Commodore was the theme song lol “Are you keeping up with the Commodore cause the Commodore’s keeping up with you!” 😂

@WaypointComics

2 жыл бұрын

its both hilarious (well tthe videos anyhow, they're on youtube) and damn catchy! long live the C64 :)

I used to love putting random tapes in my Commodore. You could get extremely cheap games from newsagents over here, and often free with magazines. The only problem was, it'd take thirty minutes or so for a cassette game to load, so if it was bad! You'd sunk a fair bit of time to load and figure out the controls! But it was pretty much no internet reviews, just how cool the case looked, so it was always an interesting guessing game!

@hazy33

2 жыл бұрын

That was only the time before fast loaders. I had Football Manager and Wheelin' Wallie. Both cassettes looked like they came on a C90 😃

@MephProduction

2 жыл бұрын

but games taking 30 minutes to load was very rare, it at all. it felt like 30 minuets but they were never that long, especially something from a mag

@scottbreon9448

2 жыл бұрын

Luckily some games had awesome loader music to dull the pain. Some even had mini games that played while the game was loading. Invade-a-Load cones to my mind

@MVLGAMING

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottbreon9448 Man, I had Invade-A-Load on a Ricochet tape of Ghostbusters. And I replayed that until the tape snapped! (At the time I didn't know I could have stopped the tape after the loading game had loaded!)

"The Door to N-World is Open" You CAN'T DO THAT, that's ILLEGAL!!

Good video! I never owned a C-64. That Bionic Granny one sure is strange and that A-Team one has to be the worst! First time, I have ever seen some of these games for the C-64. Hope you will do a worst of Atari 8-bit computer games, that would be fun to see!

@zetsuyoru662

2 жыл бұрын

In the UK, a lollypop lady is a crossing attendant for kids. For the bionic gran I can only assume its a copy of a TV show called super gran. As for the beating kids, well I guess that's the 80s in England lol 😂

There’s a Surburban Commando game that’s pretty bad, as are the conversions of Chase HQ and Super Hang On.

@scottbreon9448

2 жыл бұрын

And Cisco Heat

That Ikari Warriors port was so painfully bad. Great video!

My dad used a Commodore 64 back in the day, when he upgraded, he gave it to me. I found hundreds of games for it at yardsales mostly. I continued to have years of fun on it!

Is this Commodore 64 week? First the nerd and now the immortal

5:12 didn't know Forza Horizon was on C64!

You should make a part 2 & 3 as there was many more terrible titles for this computer!

I love the C64/128. I only played Bionic Granny from this list but had over 10,000 games, all bootleg. I eventually found out C64/128 is compatible with Sega Genesis controllers!

@Atari2600_Dude

2 жыл бұрын

Because Commodore and Sega copied the Atari 9 pin joystick design.

@scottbreon9448

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, although you should be careful as there is a button on said controller that can actually fry your C64

If you haven't done it already you should do a top 5 or 10 faithful arcade ports and top 5 or 10 worst arcade ports

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

Planning on it.

@patsfan4life

2 жыл бұрын

Mario Bros (AtariSoft) was a very accurate port I believe

Another good video! it's hard for me to think of bad games because I find them so forgettable. I have so many great memories playing so many fantastic games on the Commodore 64 that's all I can really remember lol

Wow! that Granny Game reused the sounds from the game Magic Carpet.. which Mastertronic also released. Only difference is that the Magic Carpet game is fun :)

@TheMetalliFreak77

2 жыл бұрын

Magic Carpet was one of my favorites. That and Chiller. Only difference was that in Magic Carpet, once you got the lamp, the first level started over again. Never beat Chiller.

@BriansManCave

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMetalliFreak77 hmm, I have not heard of chiller before!

@TheMetalliFreak77

2 жыл бұрын

@@BriansManCave it was a little more complex than a lot of other games. Basically, your girlfriend has been kidnapped and you have to rescue her. 5 single-screen levels where you have to collect five blue crosses to advance to the next level. Once you hit the 5th level, you have to make your way back, but the guy has to collect 5 blue crosses while the girl has to collect 5 pink ones. Assorted gooblies, greeblies, toadstools and moving too fast can drain your life, while mushrooms can add to your life. Never made it past the 4th level on the way there.

@BriansManCave

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMetalliFreak77 sounds cool!! If I find the rom for it I will make a first time video playing it :-)

@BriansManCave

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMetalliFreak77 Just did a first time playing video on Chiller... man its tough! Will upload today.

If that's the A-Team, I'd hate to see the B-Team!

@Texy88

2 жыл бұрын

What is interesting is that the rival 8-bit computers Spectrum and Amstrad CPC also had an _A-Team_ game that was absolutely nothing like this. In those versions you actually play as an A-Team member and was like an _Operation Wolf_ clone; although I have not tried either of them, they do seem to be more interesting than this woeful C64 version (which I *did* try recently and it is truly dire).

@Torthrodhel

2 жыл бұрын

@@Texy88 neat, that's cool they got some decent games and not only a rubbish one.

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

@@Texy88 The C64 game was technically not official, it was an early homebrew game from The Netherlands. Still doesn't excuse how shitty it is though

Would it be an idea to make a video about 5 good but very difficult c64 games?

But that frame rate on Bionic Granny tho 👀👀

Kid-Niki; more tripe from Quicksilver software. It looks like they took the apple 2 code, and it compiled on the c64, so they slapped a label on the disk and called it a day.

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

I own a disk only copy and agree that it’s just as bad.

Wow, with so many great games available for the Commodore 64, I never saw these stinkers. Thanks for the video, it was good unlike these games! I am glad I never played any of them.

I never owned a Commodore 64 because, at the time it was too expensive to buy one in the UK. I was "stuck" with a ZX Spectrum. Which, as it turned out, was better for me as it had a better and easier to understand BASIC, which, at the time I was eager to learn. I typed in many a programme from magazines and books which did not work and needed troubleshooting. Ahhh, the memories! Of course, now with emulation, I can at least enjoy a virtual Commodore 64! But, not with these games!

@hazy33

2 жыл бұрын

Once you'd memorised which key had which BASIC command on it 😃

That A-Team game is so hilariously bad 😂.

I got a copy of Ikari warriors as a kid, they duped me by using the arcade screens on the back of the box.

@dogcatmouse23

Жыл бұрын

The NTSC version or Pal version?

@El_Guapo74

Жыл бұрын

@@dogcatmouse23 ntsc

Good stuff, John. Even my favorite system has bad games. Thanks!

And a dishonorable mention to the C64 port of Rastan. Game was bugged and impossible to finish, at least, as published. The cover art by Tim Hildebrandt was impressive, at least. Though it does seem to be a lost work.

@MephProduction

2 жыл бұрын

Great music though

I've heard the music on Tiger Shark somewhere before hey. Anyway, great vid John! PEACE

There were SO MANY games for the C64, and plenty of truly great ones. But also A LOT of really bad ones. In some cases the games changed by region (like with Ikari Warriors). If you really wanted to go down the rabbit hole of bad C64 games, you could easily make a video that would stretch out for a couple of hours. The same would be true of great C64 games as well

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

The problem is, because the C64, Speccy, Amstrad, etc. libraries are so vast in the amount of games released for those systems (without including modern homebrew games and type-ins) there was always going to be an overabundance of what we refer today as "shovelware".

Damn! So many terrible games to choose from!

that's gotta be pretty bad when your like the worst out of 10,000 games

Dear John, Thanks for this amazing video. Ikari warriors Elite version was written by John Twiddy Who is one of the best C64 coder

My parents got me a C64 because they didnt wouldn't me to get a video game system and thought having a computer would teach me programming and help with my school work. Little did they know it became one of my favorite game systems of all time. Thanks mom and dad.

I agree those are some pretty bad games! I remember having "copy parties" with friends and we would have dual disk drives hooked up to do direct copies of each others floppies. I ended up with hundreds of floppies and can say with confidence that there were a lot of really bad games on the 64. I didn't care whether a game was good or bad, I just wanted it. I still have most of those games, and the disks have probably not been in a drive in 30 years or more. On the bright side, there were also tons of great games for the 64,

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

Ah copy parties were awesome. My brother was invited to a few when he had is Atari ST I think.

@larrym5120

2 жыл бұрын

I had my C64 and 1541 disk drive packed in their boxes for 25 years. I was surprised that most of my floppy disks still worked. Its been another 12 years. I have to break them out again and see if they are still working.

Your vid is very clear 👍 I loved M.U.L.E and Ghostbusters wow great memories from that computer 😊

I remember playing Phantom Karate Devils. Thanks for bringing back that crazy memory. There was a pretty terrible Transformers game too.

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

I played the transformers game! I liked that terrible game haha. Really bad control.

@smallmj2886

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhancockretro Maybe you had some idea what you were supposed to do. I remember wandering aimlessly and dying cheaply.

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

@@smallmj2886 you collect these pieces of autobot and deception symbols.

@KasumiKenshirou

2 жыл бұрын

There were at least two different Transformer games. The one I had growing up had impressive (for the time) digitized speech in its intro, but the game wasn't much fun. IIRC, it was made by the same guy that did the Ghostbusters game.

Recently picked up “Dawn Patrol” on cassette by K-tek. I was amazed by how bad it was. The box tried to make it sound so exciting.

@dogcatmouse23

Жыл бұрын

Will have to check that one out. I think I saw one for sale once.

Great picks! Hard Drivin' released by Domark in 1989 has to be seen to believed. It's the worst commercial game ever released for the C64 in my opinion. The game was apparently not released on its own, but included in two different compilations

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

I have seen it and almost included it.

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Although, except for the Amiga version of Super Space Invaders, and maybe their port of Rampart, I'm not a massive fan of any of the games that Domark released to be honest.

Heck yeah! I was hoping you’d make a video about the Commodore 64! 👍

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it.

Thanks for making this series John, I've been loving it!

8:22 This is what it must be like to play the 2nd and 4th level boss fight of Contra while on Acid.

Why would you want to shoot the A-Team?

Ok i really like Bionic Granny despite its trash attributes lol. Never played it but I like it's style

5:20-5:24 So, it's like an early version of Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing.

Why is Bionic Granny hitting kids? Was the original working title Child Abuse: The Game? I've seen some bad and weird games, but what the holy hell lol

Love this series. Where can I get that hat?

Halloween is coming up... how about a video of best/ worst of all Halloween themed video games?

Ok that A team game takes the cake, it reminds me kinda of the GI joe 2600 game,but I liked it

John is like every gamer's online dad lol

@JamesChessman

2 жыл бұрын

*online grandfather / great grandfather, but yes it's a great channel. :)

that might be Gorgio Moroder sampled in the music for 911 tigershark

Thumbnails of the legend looking grossed out at bad games are hilarious. I wish I could visit his literal museum of games and just talk old school games. I’m about the same age so I came up with the same stuff.

Awesome video !!!! Woah those are some awful games !

I dunno John, the music from Bionic Granny isn’t that bad. I actually kinda like it.

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

A looping tune for the game is going to get very old fast.

@PhilipHarwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhancockretro I guess you’re right… I mean, I haven’t played it so I wouldn’t know. I guess I was giving it the benefit of the doubt.

Bionic Granny remake when ? Ikari warriors looks better than the NES version. Even the "Bad" one still looks better than the NES version. Damn scrotum guns.

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

I rented the nes one as a kid. Not terrible, but you could get stuck in a 2p game and would have to be reset the game.

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

Funny there actually an unofficial sequel to Bionic Granny on the C64 called Bionik Granny Returns. And it's actually not that bad when compared to the original

My worst of the worst was Gauntlet for C64. The arcade was my favourite and I was waiting for so much for this to be released. It was released so unfinished that you hardly could complete the first level because of bugs. Characters would disappear off the screen etc. The actual play area was maybe a quarter of regular C64 active screen area.

Throughout your into, I've been chanting Bionic Granny... Lol it was the last C64 game I bought as a kid before my system was packed away for 30 years :)

''YOU'R'' Haha! That should have been a VIC-20 game. Would have gotten a pass, just barely.

I cannot believe you didn't mention that the A-Team game uses the Star Wars music.

I think in 911 the tune is one of Jean-Michel Jarre's. I heard of the other version of Ikari Warriors, but i didn't realise, how bad it is. Phantom Karate Devils looks quite good for 1983.

Finally you listen to my request my men John. I grew up playing C64 and still have my original C64 that I brought with me from Germany. Thank you John for this video.

I don't feel like I missed out with this console

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a computer ;). Trust me some great games were on it.

@patsfan4life

2 жыл бұрын

Depending on the genre there’s a decent list of playable classics…… forget about boxing & driving sims for the most part though

Highlander is definitely one of the stinkers. Legend says that Ocean made a horrible deal with the movie company for the licence. Basically if the game sold well, Ocean would lose a LOT of money. So they purposefully made it the worst it could be. And it is.

@dogcatmouse23

Жыл бұрын

I had that game once for Pal and sold it to someone who was doing reviews on old Commodore 64 movie games.

John bring in you buddy metal Jesus for a surprise video it would be cool 😎 😂

That 911 car game even uses ripped off licensed music....that song is called popcorn.

well in the earlie 80s hundreds of games where released on every platform and theres a reason why you only know a few of them most of them where like these games, the home computers where able to stay a floot even with all the bad games out

The music in 911 Tiger Shark is actually a rendition of "Pop Corn" by Gershon Kingsley from 1969, and it's a wild listen when you consider that it's 52 years old at this point: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYeGpcemlpWweMY.html It's arguably the first synthpop single; a re-recording of it in 1972 was relatively successful.

I wanna say Highlander was on C64 and what’s sad was it was purposely made bad due to royalties fears. The company didn’t think they could pay it all If it sold well so it had bad controls and stuff

Love ya content buds !

Bionic Granny makes me think about that poor kid from Missing 411 who got abducted by the robot grandma

05:10 (turns head slowly, incredibly confused) "...a whaaat?"

Break street and speed racer and beach head 2 was my favorites

I'm so glad you didn't include Mario's Brewery as its one of my favorite carts that I have. The more you play it the better it gets, the music loop is goot!

@dogcatmouse23

Жыл бұрын

Hard cart to find. Hopefully you still have that.

@erkl797

Жыл бұрын

Hey, yes I do. Largest size , c64 game cartridge, I've got.

Have you done one on mega drive or commodore c16

@johnhancockretro

2 жыл бұрын

Not yet.

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

The C16 version of Green Beret should certainly make the list for that computer. LOL

That 911 game is as fun as dragging a mouse cursor with a car skin on the screen.

You need to track down the devs on these bad games and ask them ‘why?!’

Weird... The ZX Spectrum version of 911TS was totally different, more like a slow Spyhunter ... but with no other cars and the whole point of the game being to dodge scenery obstacles. It was at least playable. The C64 version looks like someone took the level map from the Spectrum version and decided that was the main game window. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqOO0peak5jaedo.html

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

Apparently, the game's coder was only 12 years old at the time he coded the game, The publisher basically rushed him to release an UNFINISHED version

Old, but... Try North Star, and Cobra. They may not be nearly the worst, but I find them frustratingly unplayable without cheats nevertheless. The redeeming factors are the nice graphics... and both have listenable music made by late Ben Daglish. Cobra had a song that was on the soundtrack album of the movie, but not in the actual movie. One earlyish release (let's give it some credit for that) is the Cascade 50 collection. The tape version especially... while it has a few nice little games on it, others are not worth the time... and it was made in such a stupid way, that each game has the turbo loader individually on the tape, then the turbo data chunk. Some games would have benefited from loading straight with the factory protocol as it would have taken less time than loading the turbo loader. Also, there was no progress indicator, you would stare at the light blue screen for a long time, not knowing if the game is actually loading.

The A-Team was not an official A-Team game, it was mail order only and done by a notorious Dutch based "cracking" group

@AgentM79

2 жыл бұрын

I figured crack had to be involved in some way to make something this bad………….

@scottbreon9448

2 жыл бұрын

@@AgentM79 nah... More like meth, they couldn't afford crack. LoL 😂

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

@@AgentM79 More like meth

Love this great computer, especially the SID Chip. My favorite games are "Cosmic Cuseway: Trailblazer II" and "Marble Madness (C64)"! (edited because i wrote a typo lol)

you should have played "dancing monster"... I once made fun of Attack of the Phantom Karate Devils in a forum and the original author mr. Orthel defended his game by saying that it was the first ever fighting game on the C64. I had fun with the game back when it was new. But i was 8 years old or so. I could just have fun by moving the cursor on the screen. I you ever want to try really bad games try : Chuck Norris, Ninja Master, Dancing Monster, Hard Drivin', Bionic Commando(NTSC Version).

The problem is, because the C64, Speccy, Amstrad, etc. libraries are so vast in the amount of games (and non game software) released for it (without including modern games and type-ins) there was always going to be an overabundance of what we refer today as "shovelware".

The music from the 911 Tiger Shark game ripped off "Popcorn" by Hot Butter.

Rocky Horror Picture Show had me very confused as an 11-year old. I liked the music and knew it was supposed to be funny, but trying to get anywhere seemed ridiculous.

I highly doubt that that A-Team game was licensed. There were all kinds of low-rent computer games and shovelware from small/unknown publishers based on popular IPs of the time.

Those versions of C64 Ikari Warriors. At least one of them is good. C64 also has two versions of Double Dragon , one is kind-of bad, and the other is a crime against humanity.

5:13 that song is Popcorn by Hot Butter... Considering the quality of the game, I bet they didn't get permission to use that... 👀👀😂

@satan3959

Жыл бұрын

Technically, Popcorn was originally a song released in 1969 by Gerhson Kingsley. The Hot Butter version is actually a COVER, not the original

I can't believe that something as bad as the A-Team game even exists! It's a disgrace. The concept itself is totally wrong, not to mention the gameplay.

The Attack of the Phantom Karate Devils looks like a broken LCD game.

The 24 dislikes were all full time bionic grannies.

I loved Ultima IV, F-19.Stealth Fighter, Pirates! and The Last Ninja 1 & 2. C64 had some excellent memorable games.

Alternate title: 5 games that would have been classics on the ZX Spectrum... (Kidding... kidding... ;-) )

Lol I played that AotPKD. For like 10 seconds. Glad I copied it back then. Been real mad if I'd bought it.

Hot popcorn! I could buy that just for the tune.

lol... I was wondering why Ikari Warriors was your #2 example... then I realized that 35 years ago, I was playing the pirated European version.

I always consider "Miami Vice" as one of the worst games. A lot of C64 games were made by one guy in a couple of weeks so it wasn't any wonder if they were bad. But "Miami Vice" was published by Ocean who were one of the top game companies at the time. They *should* have had the resources to make a good game, if they'd only bothered to. But no, they published this real stinker of a game, probably presuming that it would sell on the strength of the name only. Maybe it did. A complete rip-off.

Ikari warrior Game play was very similar to "Who dares Win 2" Perhaps it was the same programmer.

As much as I love the franchises, two of the worst C64 games were Transformers and Ninja Turtles. Turtles was especially bad considering it was a port of the NES game. The graphics were atrocious and it was missing one of the levels. Transformers had one or two redeeming features such as an interesting intro, a choice of 8 characters including Rodimus Prime rather than Optimus, which featured an animated transformation sequence for the character you selected and a synthesised version of the theme tune. The game itself was terrible and ridiculously difficult.

I would have added Miami vice on there...do you recall that one?? It was appalling 😂...it was one of the 8 games I got with my c64 in 1988.

I was worried my ears were about to start bleeding from the music from Bionic Granny. Truly dreadful

The A-Team looks like a low-budget cheapsteak licensed game for the Commodore 64. (7:56)