one of the most useful videos as of late. I'd like to see more videos on using the data to sort out ones fitness and how one is progressing in their training.

One of your best videos in terms of power meter information. Keep up the great work! Now I just need to buy a p-meter! ;*(

Thanks heaps for this!! I have been using Training Peaks as part of the Zwift Academy and had no idea what any of it meant!! You have cleared it up significantly

What an absolutely fantastic video! Thanks GCN! This information is not so easily and conveniently attainable elsewhere.

Amazing editing, sound, camera work and the content!

Excellent intro to TP that will help me get started! Thanks, mates.

Wow, giving a TEDtalk on the details of power, while keeping up with cars... under power. Hat off, bows to GCN.

This was really good, didn't know what Vt was, thanks!

I have just completed my first 50 plus mile bike ride and I’m over the moon. I suffer from COPD, self inflicted btw; I was a heavy smoker but had to quit. I took up bike riding during the pandemic and fell in love with it. I have converted to a road bike and I’m not going back. I use a heart rate monitor on the majority of my rides when I remember it. I’m thinking about investing in a power meter to see what way it can improve my overall performance. My 54 mile ride was done in a moving time of 4 hours and 12 minutes. My VO2 max is pathetic 34 and I would do anything to improve it. On my recovery rides I try to include a few short, sharp but steep hills especially after a long ride and ensure I ride at least 20-25 miles in my recovery rides or else I think they are a waste of time. No more canals for me. I have also recently switched to SPD pedals, I did try the road pedals but they are too tricky for me. Clipless has improved my speed and climbing abilities. I even use clipless on my hybrid for commuting.

"It can also be used to plan your day, or even your week your month or your year" *clapclapclapclap* SI'LL BE THERE FOOORR YOOOOUUUUU

@jakebailey4458

5 жыл бұрын

genius 😂

Outstanding video! Thanks. Now we know Dan's FTP at that time was 382 W.

Thanks guys. Great info

Great video! Very informative

you guys strong, able to normally talk while riding fairly fast, specially Si

@gentabdiaj2951

4 жыл бұрын

Luis Bretón they are pro s

awesome please more of these

very very useful!

Cool vid guys! Thank you

Great video !

Classic Si, buzzing the old folks all day everyday ;)

Damn, Training Peaks should use this video as their how to use TP....awesome

I like to use total Kj to help me understand the demands of a course and in training if I am near the fitness level to meet that demand. ie: if race takes 3500 kj, have I done a 3500 Kj ride in training lately etc.

Have you ever done a video explaining how to plan your season?

Si's mic cord and the angle of the sun on Dan make you both look very "excited" about the Power Data! Perhaps you need to use the same tool you use for Cycling Shorts.

0:55 first time I've seen anyone ride past you in a video :O

Any tips or videos on best ways to try and hold steady constant power? out on the road.. Obviously within reason

which pedaling style will provide more power spinning or grinding during a climb for long duration ?

Good video. We all love TP. You say that the Power Graph can use NP not average power. When is this selected? I cannot find that option. Thanks.

Is there quality evidence indicating what power curve shape ( ie stomping vs circling vs pulling up or some combination) is more efficient from a metabolic/physiologic standpoint? Other than in an expensive cardiopulmonary testing lab, it seems the only metric that we can easily measure is HR while generating the same force/speed, maintaining the same cadence for some fixed duration while trying different pedaling stroke shapes. Generating a given power at the lowest metabolic cost ( ie energy required by by the body to produce the power) would seem to be the object of all this pedaling data. Is there such evidence available and is there a metric riders can use? Chris F

You can do all this for free with Golden Cheetah. I prefer it to Training Peaks/WKO.

@MarkSmith-sy4ul

8 жыл бұрын

Quite agree. Golden Cheetah does all this for free and perfectly adequately for most cyclists' purposes. Plus it is being continuously developed by a dedicated band of supporters.

@karlnorberg7768

8 жыл бұрын

Is there Garmin Connect or Strava integration for GC? I've been fiddling with it lately but it seems like you need to manually download each activity and then import it into GC. Something automatic would be neat.

@OliverCharles

8 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not with Garmin Connect. I plug my Garmin in and manually sync.

@sirhanlec

7 жыл бұрын

you can use tapiriik - I use it to sync data between garmin connect and GC.

@jabba0975

5 жыл бұрын

But...then I wouldn't have the opportunity of making monthly payments for the privilege of using software.

01:01 that view of the ocean is breathtaking. Where is that at?

#torqueback so if I do a 20 min max session to test my FTP out on the road do I go with my actual average or my normalised power? I don't have uninterrupted roads so the two are often quite far apart

Can you tell us something about the critical power?

Most of this data is on Strava or the Garmin. Strava has this "Suffer Score" - is that equivalent to the TP/Garmin TSS?? Btw - slightly off topic - I find the banding of suggested power outputs in the Zwift interval workouts a bit low despite having my FTP set there. Does anyone else find this? (Maybe my FTP is actually higher and I just didn't try hard enough during the test!)

A Trainingpeaks advert hehe.. Though I use it myself already!

@onlymeok

8 жыл бұрын

This is a product placement channel.

@binaryglitch64

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are pretty transparent about having sponsors... I prefer it that way.

Mine says 2000w, should I turn the motor off first?

could you make a video where you look what kind of power meter is there ?

Spot on! That's exactly how I do it Great video

Can you calculate Normalized Heart Rate, and if so, how?

good video brexit is working!!

#wattagepazooka I'm sure Dan Lloyd has been analized by tousends of GCN lovers💪got it?😎 FTP of 382W is not bad for sudge an old man.

I almost exclusively use WKO (from trainingpeaks too). More numbers and graphs but I feel like it is easier to see progress and analyze your workout.

Can you do another swift video?

What if TrainingPeaks shows normalised power LOWER than average power? How do you interpret that?

Is Training Peaks calculate FTP base on your ride

Pretty sure Simon just won a bet at 4:15 a la fitting bullshit lyrics into a GCN video. Well played!

fellas as you are now talking all things power how about doing some indoor training videos that use the 7 power training zones rather than the 10 perceived effort level meter ?.....

any news on sora r3000

So ho do you use TSS?

2:07 Who is it with a threshold of 384w? Is it Si... ;)

@gamingmidget

8 жыл бұрын

dans is 381

@SwedishHouseFifa

8 жыл бұрын

that's impressive!

@gamingmidget

8 жыл бұрын

definatley and even more so now hes retired, he was probably in the 400s at his peak

@SwedishHouseFifa

8 жыл бұрын

he was strong back in the day :D

@no1noone34

8 жыл бұрын

Si is still very fit. I think in some video they said that when he rode the Ronde Van Vlaanderen, he came in at 2nd or 3th place overall on Strava.

Not everyone has access to power metrics. Wish you added other metrics, like the cheaper heart rate metrics, with in combination with the other basic metrics.

Dans FTP is 380? Alex Dowsett is just above 400 so the boys seem to be fit!

🤯

Is this a paid endorsement for Training Peaks?

@viktorvaldemar

8 жыл бұрын

Everything on GCN is paid by advertisers. You think they make all this content for free?

All this stuff is so complicated, it's putting me off from getting a power meter. That and the price too ...although the price is probably the number 1 reason !

@theylivewesee1674

8 жыл бұрын

exactly, why spend 1000$ just to pace through your local around the city ride, I would rather invest in some nice alloy wheels

@MarkSmith-sy4ul

8 жыл бұрын

[Gary Jockstrap] It all depends on what your cycling objectives are. There is plenty of documentation on the web to help understand how to use power data and this video did a pretty good job of explaining the basics. Once you have some software like Golden Cheetah or Training Peaks and some data it is much easier to understand. I am just a recreational cyclist who does the occasional sportive and I find riding using power data helps me get to the right level of fitness.

@MarkSmith-sy4ul

8 жыл бұрын

[Esseker Fit] PowerPod is $299 so it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get in to training with power.

@theylivewesee1674

8 жыл бұрын

Mark Smith where I live that is monthly paycheck

@michwoz

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It's so complicated... if you are amoeba. Because if you are intelligent person you can understand it all in less than 30 minutes. This knowledge may also be useful for understanding training and its principles even if you don't have power meter. Just make a little effort.

How often do you guys get a crazy rider chase you down just to scream into the camera "WELCOME TO THE GCN SHOW"?

I couldn't help but to stare at you madones

@allan87654

8 жыл бұрын

100% agree

They left behind those riders XD

Slaves to numbers.

your day , your week, your month, or even your year...... like from Friends?

from the beginning of the video Dan is obviously a "righty"....what has been seen cannot be unseen....

Some dress to the left, some to the right, ey boys?

So from this vid you're actually saying that a left/right meter is over rated?

@keasone

8 жыл бұрын

You won't benefit from dual side, as long as u use dual or single an all of your bikes

@Zoomsterful

8 жыл бұрын

+keasone But you don't need dual to measure any of the five things in the vid... I'm looking at getting the Bepro pedals from favero. €750 for dual side and €500 for single. I'm not a pro, and looking at this it seems like the single might be enough, I'm just worried that I might miss out on something if I do end up getting the single...

@Zoomsterful

8 жыл бұрын

keasone Actually, after reading your comment again, it makes no scene at all, what are you trying to say, really?

@keasone

8 жыл бұрын

pretty simple - stick to single sided on all of your bikes, OR stick to dual sided on all of you bikes. If you mix, you won't get the same readings due so possible leg-imbalances.

@keasone

8 жыл бұрын

in the end, get a 4iiii precision.

Me sucking at 140 watts as a beginner XD

Wow. Today I let my Strava premium acct expire and did the year sub to TP. Username ktchurch

So much data. How did Hinault, Lemond, Indurain, et al ever manage without power meters?

@gcn

8 жыл бұрын

They also managed without many other modern inventions, that's not to say they wouldn't have used them and potentially been even better, had they had access to them.

@clipzed

8 жыл бұрын

Exactly GCN! good reply.

@GordonMoat

8 жыл бұрын

Yes, a bit of irony, but seriously, what techniques did the pros of old use? I'm sure they had some data while training, but long ago before Matt's time there were no head units, other than the one on top of your shoulders.

@GordonMoat

8 жыл бұрын

Power meters are not cheap, and GCN have stated in the past that loads of money was not needed to improve cycling fitness. Perhaps that's a future #torqueback or a new video in need of production. If we don't have power meters, or even a heart monitor giving us instant feedback, how can we train to numbers? Can speed data over an often used course help us improve?

@Dissidentmember

8 жыл бұрын

I have a friend who doesn't use power or HR and he's got so much better than me just through riding more. I know that's not much help but it's more than you've been given so far. I will ask him what he does if you like

first comment!?!!

Why did I watch this? I don't own a power meter.

@Zoomsterful

8 жыл бұрын

Knowledge is power..... ;)

@tomfrost3281

8 жыл бұрын

+Chris Naude That was clever. Touché

@andrewmounsey5030

8 жыл бұрын

Admit it! you like staring at men in Lycra. It's okay, we all do, especially Dan.

next tip video....how to save money to buy one

WOW, you guys did an awfull amout of math during that ride. I usually think of other things

Training Peaks say "At this time the charts only use average power, not normalized power". Shame really.

After watching 2 min of this vid I decided to remain being a chubby, slow-ass cyclist rather than trying to understand and memorize the content of this vid. Nice riding footage though.

#torqueback so if I do a 20 min max session to test my FTP out on the road do I go with my actual average or my normalised power? I don't have uninterrupted roads so the two are often quite far apart

@johnboywatson

8 жыл бұрын

Same question here..

@gamingmidget

7 жыл бұрын

average, you only use normalised to get an ftp if the ride is over 1 hr