What are some of your hot takes about the wedding film industry? Drop em below ⬇

Paying $4000 for a DJ comfortably but flushing out your entire budget and asking the Videographer to take $1500 “because that’s all I have”.

@WaywardNorth

13 күн бұрын

Those days were roughhhhh

I usually fast on the wedding day too but mostly because I don't want to worry about finding a bathroom early in the day when I can't miss critical moments 🤣 But vendor meals hit real nice when you are starving. Also I've not heard of the content creators style of wedding video. I get why it would exist though. For the last one, the dance floor lights, I'd say it can depend. I have noticed that sometimes when I set up my lights I get looks from wedding guests and the area closet to my lights is usually barren even on the lower brightness settings because people don't want to dance near the lights haha I've also had couples straight up ask me not to use my own lights (though only a few times, usually they get why they're needed).

I like the videos I like you expressing your opinions! I think videographer and Photographer put the meal thing in their contract because like every other job in the US if you work eight hours, you required to have a lunch break even if you don’t want one. At least that’s where I’m usually just sitting at a desk and I normally don’t even want to go walk down to a cafeteria to eat. I’d rather just shorten my working day by continuing work.

Filming a wedding on a full stomach is never fun. We dont need meals and most weddings we have an opportunity to grab something in between locations after ceremony.

Hot take on wedding films: if you don’t want to be treated as an add on, price and market yourself accordingly. Move into a market that values video and doesn’t simply see it as a bonus. As a wedding photographer, I constantly hear “We’d love to have a videographer if there’s any room left in the budget when we get closer.” These are the clients I would avoid at all costs as a videographer.

@HwayVision

12 күн бұрын

Very well said😊

I’m still in my infancy with wedding videography. I’ve just done my 7th wedding. I struggle with coming to terms with creating something I like and then having to risk showing others. I think my problem is I’m comparing myself to all the amazing videographers I see on KZread.

@SuperNaco85

10 күн бұрын

I feel this 100% but just keep going. Keep shooting. Don’t worry about others and what they’re doing. I promise, it’ll click one day and you’ll get it.

@Lets_Make_Films

10 күн бұрын

@@SuperNaco85 many thanks for the kind words! Think I needed to hear that from someone tbh.

I'm sorry but eating and taking a break is not a privilege haha it is a human right. More power to you if fasting and granola bars are your thing but everyone else needs a break and a hot meal that doesn't give us food poisoning (which has happened a couple times) I love your vids, keep it up!

@WaywardNorth

13 күн бұрын

Valid argument! And I think most weddings nowadays feed their vendors like I mentioned I HARDLY run into that being an issue. But it has definitely happened and that cookout tray and milkshake was ahhhmazing haha. Everyone is certainly different and fasting helps me focus and not worry about possible food poisoning the next day. I think demanding it in a contract is a little off putting but like I said I totally get it and some people NEED that food so no shame at all.

@andrewkingham

5 сағат бұрын

Hmm, eating something is pretty much essential to get through a wedding day (my average is around 14-15 hours), but the couple paying for our evening meal is definitely a privilege. I'm old enough to remember when this was a rarity.

Having the wedding of your dreams is the luxury not videography. But i get your take and i somewhat agree.

In my opinion, anything for a wedding is a luxury expense. Anyone could go to a courthouse and get married, and saying if DJ or planner or photographer aren't a luxury expense is mind-boggling. The fact that photography has just been around for longer is what makes people not think it's a luxury expense, when it is and most photographers are charging more than videographers, which also boggles my mind because if a videographer is doing it right, they should be charging at least the same or slightly more.

@WaywardNorth

13 күн бұрын

Oh yeah the entire wedding day and every vendor involved is a luxury. In the eyes of the couple what luxury is more priority is probably a better way of phrasing. Typically venue/photo/planner/florists/catering/dj/decor/ and if there’s room maybe video. It is so interesting how people assume video is cheaper than photo but I think that’s in part to the stereotype of wedding videos out there and the perception that’s been engraved in people’s minds.

The proliferation of franchises taking over the wedding industry. There seems to be so many national vendors that are saturating the market, which turns most wedding videos into single shooter slow motion montages. Shooter is local, editing is done out of state.

Great video and great takes. I’ve photographed 400+ weddings and filmed 1 wedding. Let me tell you, I’ll never complain about photographing another wedding again. Filming is so much more work 😅 Thanks for all the great content.

@aefilmsweddings

11 күн бұрын

That's funny because I have no real interest in photographing weddings because it seems like a lot much more work than video to me 😆 Different kinds of stress I suppose haha

Hot take: Ill-equipped photographers jumping into shots because they lack reach on their 35mm and 50mm lenses.

ISO 8000 > lights….imo. I’m a NO light guy. With a capable camera of course.

@WaywardNorth

13 күн бұрын

Im hybrid. I usually make the judgement call based on the venue but usually I’m setting up lights :/ I like the contrast too much

Hot take - The saturation and lack of differentiation in the market will lead to couples prioritizing the character of the videographer and how they enhance the joy & experience of the day over quality of production. Already seeing this in the California wedding market - sincerely a wedding videography & photography married couple

@WaywardNorth

13 күн бұрын

I agree with this, I feel like that’s becoming more and more common globally. Quality of work wasn’t the main deciding factor but it used to be a top priority. Now everything looks the same, so couples are basing a lot of their decision around cheapest option and personality/experience being secondary.

@andrewkingham

5 сағат бұрын

I think this has always been the case, to be honest. But maybe it's because my area has always been a bit hyper-saturated. In the end, we're there to complement the photographer and make the couple feel good, not just produce a film. 😊

Hmmm. Uncut Gems. I want to see what that’s all about.

Weddings are luxuries in general tbh...

Vendor meal hot take is way off...... While you aren't entitled, it's def earned. and after 15 years in DJ/video/photo, I absolutely include the clause. We aren't machines, and sometimes... snacks just aren't enough.

most dj let me my amaran 200d with fresnel on 3-4% dimmed down xD

@WaywardNorth

13 күн бұрын

Most DJs I work with now are totally accommodating and understand the process. All it takes is some communication beforehand to set the tone!

@eszesfilms1651

12 күн бұрын

@@WaywardNorth i always call photographer and dj before wedding because of it. I try to made a little bit "friendship" before work together. It helps a little on the mission. But i live in different country with different culture/people. This country has a lot of very ugly wedding and bad habits. Especially speeches is very rare. People dont like it. Its sad to me, because it helps a lot in non linear editing and deeper storytelling.

Ive never done a wedding where i wasnt fed lol. They always take care of me and my assistant if i have one but i do typically have a protein smoothie before bc i know im about to get a workout 😂 Technically nothing is a necessity besides going down to the courthouse. But not getting a wedding film in 2024 is nasty work. Heck theres a bunch of people you can find in just about any budget range. There's virtually no excuse nowadays. But we definitely are under appreciated. Even my fiance never understood until she helped me with one wedding and she was STRESSED. 😂😂😂😂 then the editing had her more stressed and she was like you need to charge wayy more lol If you edit or can edit your own work you're a film maker imo. Social media got peoples head warped in EVERYTHING. Im a car enthusiast. Everyone thinks they are car enthusiasts even though they dont know a thing lol. Or cant actually race their car. And nowadays 1000hp is slow. Like what???? Film Making from beginning to end is not easy or non time consuming. We putting in crazy work and have to be so much more creative than photographers imo and i also do photography. Content creators can devalue almost anything depending on what it is. They've done more harm than good in the car community for sure. Clout is everything. Bc peoples can create quick reels, they think wedding film Making can be done overnight 😂😂. And it also confuses some people bc they dont know what they want sometimes or want too many different things when it comes to their wedding film bc of all the "content" they consume on a daily basis. And they try to get more out of you for extra things like reels and stuff bc social media is thing and clout is a drug people cant get enough of lol. At the same time people like Wayward wouldnt be around if it wasnt for content creators bc his KZread is technically content creation lol. I already have an add on for 15 second reels and 30 and 60 second reels but those arent available for 1-2 weeks after. Never realized people were just essentially capturing and posting the content like that lol i thought the guests were doing that for free 😂😂😂 The lighting nope. Just like you said, either they vibing with the music and want to dance or they're not. Its that simple tbh. I dont always use lights around the dance area but ive never had an issue. And couples LOVE when i use the rgb on my light attached to my little smallrig setup when i go hand held Anyways love your content broski. You've been such a tremendous help and definitely my favorite wedding filmmaker who does content. You're humble, you keep it 💯 and you know what you're talking about!

@lombasfilmco

13 күн бұрын

add some creatine and get those gains haha I actually meal prep wraps and smoothies and load them in a backpack ice chest on the big day, never know if or when you'll be fed that day