Yeah, it's your voice again, thank you!!!

I love this kind of content that shows alternatives for rubbers and blades

I'm so happy to hear your voice again coach :) and very informative video Thank You

0:36 Because that can. And people sill still buy it hoping it'll transform them into the next Timo Boll. Plain & simple. I've played with Hurricane 3 commercial for some time now. It's around $30 a sheet. One day at club I traded rackets with a cadet who hit with Tenergy 05 at the time. This Cadet was top 25 in the USA and rated around 2100 USATT so a good player. I was struck how he still hit with just a much spin & power with my racket and I still hit about the same speed & power with this with Tenergy 05. I'm not trying to say rubbers don't matter. Clearly they do. I just think the difference between them is overblown. You either have great technique or you don't. That plays a much bigger factor.

Thank you coach for your amazing and natural voice, now it feels like i am enjoying your videos a lot more!

Finally your voice is back, thank you very much! :)

Yes, the voice of the legend is back!

Must say very informative and useful

Love the reviews.thank you

I use Nittaku Fastarc G-1, it has a hard feeling (rubber topsheet is also firm), but feels very precise to control. I tried Tibhar MX-S, and I found it to be more challenging to control (must be conscious with footwork, also more physical effort is required to hit), but it is more powerful regarding top spin & speed combined.

Right now I’m currently using MXS on forehand and MXP 50 on backhand. Paired with an inner force zlc, this rubber pairing I have found to be a good alternative. G1 as well is an excellent choice, I’ve found this actually to be quite gripper but not as durable.

@peterkajan6645

Жыл бұрын

Hi, how hard is it to control your backhand? The mxp 50 is very hard so I'd like to know how it is. I prefer a softer rubber for my backhand

Can you do the best Dhs Blades starting from Budget ones to Highends

I use Nittaku FastArc-G1 on my forehand and Tibhar on my backhand.

Thank you lots🏓🔥

The Xiom Vega X should be presented as an alternative, aswell. It's sponge is similar to Vega Pro but has a new topsheet to generate more spin. I play the Vega X for about a year already and its really near to the T05. Its price is about 30-35 USD so its very cheap compared to T05... Everyone should give it a try, in my opinion🏓🏓

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

En España , en Vsport Vega X cuesta 45 €, lo mismo que MXP. Así que la diferencia es de 15 € más con respecto a los 60 € de Tenergy 05. 35 dólares americanos son 32 €. A ese precio si la compraría, para ahorrar 15€, me compraría Tenergy 05, que desgastada juega igual que las otras gomas del mercado.

Nice review!!

Thanks ,this Video is perfect because i was looking for a New racket and wanted to have the tenergy 05 on the backhand but its too expensive so i was looking for cheaper alternatives .

I have tried to find an alternative for ternegy 05 with no success. I have tried some of the rubbers mentioned however I always go back to ternegy 05.

Great video

The replacement for Tenergy05 seems to be the Omega series. I'm using the Omega7asia version on behalf of Tenergy.

Hello, I played with almost all these rubbers, I think : Donic bluefire M2 => a very good substitute of T05, it's more than enough for the majority of players, less grip and dynamism than T05 but less spin sensitive so... Yasaka Rakza 9 => a love this rubber but it's more a substitute of T64 than T05. Medium low throw angle, dynamic, big mecanical grip Tibhar MX-P => the same, more a substitute of T64 than T05. Medium throw angle, very dynamic Nittaku G1 => it's a substitute a T05, less dynamsim but more control and harder feel. Xiom Vega pro => never played with Other options : Yasaka Rakza X => same as G1 but with lower throw angle, more a T80 subsitute. Yasaka Rakza 7 => "same" as T05 with lower throw angle Tibhar MX-S => same as G1 Nittaku P1 => same feeling as T05 but lower throw angle.

@MCKCrew4u

2 жыл бұрын

What do u think about joola carbin x pro? It has micron 48 rubbers 2 mm

@peterkajan6645

2 жыл бұрын

I use the yasaka Rakza 7 and it just can't grip onto the ball. Very low amount of spin. More of a blocking, smashing rubber.

@lavasurfer22

2 жыл бұрын

I have used the Vega pro as well as all the other rubbers mentioned. G1 suits my particular game style best, but the Vega Pro is (to this date) the best performing rubber below $40 per sheet. The MX-S is very similar to the G1 playstyle (relitively same angle, dwell time, and control) but has a different feel and has more power. The MX-S also has the about the same max spin but it's access to spin is a little less. The MX-S is better for mid range play where as the G1 is better for close gameplay between the two. Both are quite suitable for either backhand or forehand but the G1 makes a better backhand than the MX-S and the MX-S a better Forehand. Lastly, the G1 will last about 2.5 times longer than the MX-S. This is in part due to the G1 not being a tensor rubber.

@RambO5018

Жыл бұрын

@@lavasurfer22 The new Vega X ten feels quite good for the forehand for me. Doesn´t quite have the same speed/spin as the t05, but great control by comparison

donic baracuda (and tibhar genius) were also good, affordable and durable alternatives which came out soon after tenergy 05 release and can produce a lot of spin and have high throw angle

@guesswho710

Жыл бұрын

right ....... baracuda = < gewo nanoflex

@ttsnap

Жыл бұрын

@@guesswho710 thanks for the suggestion, i might try it one day

I miss your voice coach thanks for comeback

In Europe the t05 is mostly used on forehand, not backhand. There's nothing like the t05, the donic rubbers just don't cut it, they lack feeling. Japanese rubbers don't have the spring feeling and other German rubbers feel completely different and unique. The t05 is trully one of a kind, there's no real substitute, only alternatives with differences, nothing gives you the spring sponge feeling of the t05. Plus about durability, t05 is very durable and can last up to 1.5 to 2 years, but reglueing ruins European and Japanese soft rubbers, it's recommend to reglue them only once in their lifetime to freshen them up, they are sensitive but the sponges shouldn't crack, they don't require much glue or force to remove, they need gentle handling.

@Yunsalta

Жыл бұрын

My tenergy 05 died in 1 year ı play 4 days 2.30 hours except summer i played 05 fx on backhand and same

@john.s1962

Жыл бұрын

@@Yunsalta that's good, a normal rubber wouldn't have lasted as long

@aldopalacios3357

10 ай бұрын

2 years! I don't think T05 can last so much. I play 4 days a week. After 4 months the rubber feels not the same. Loses its grip and feels a bit dead. I'm using now Andro Rasanter R48 in forehand, don't really like it, and Tenergy 19 in backhand. T19 lasts longer than T05 and is a very nice rubber. But they are too expensive. 90 US$ un Peru. So I'll try another options. I liked MX-S very much in backhand, it's a bit heavy. In forehand I liked T05, but as I say, it's an expensive rubber and doesn't last. Victas V22 on forehand and Joola Dynarys ACC will be my next.

@john.s1962

10 ай бұрын

@@aldopalacios3357 I play 3-4 times from 2 to 3 hours, t05 lasts me a loooooong time. It does need regluing after some time though, so maybe that's what's wrong with it...

@john.s1962

10 ай бұрын

@@davidsomo1651 English dude

I just got mxp for forehand and Grass on backhand

Muito bom. Obrigado! ❤

I finally use Nittaku Fastarc G-1 on forehand, it's even better to control than Tenergy 05 for me.

I prefer your chinese accent, i think it's cool =]

Andro rubbers Rasanter 47 and Hexar are really good.

Thenk you. Gut to Now.☺️

Can u do a video with micron 48 rubbers??

how about mx-k normal version.. it's also very good choice..

Whats your opinion to hexer powergrip?

Thanks, good info

@pingsunday

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

That's my coach!!! [I am a bluefire player!]

Donic Barracuda - More spin, higher throw angle than T05, but less speed.

What about Gewo Nexxus el pro 48? Many players are using this rubber currently... 🤔

please make top cheap rubbers

How about the dhs gold arc 8?

He’s back 😎🏓 ! 1:40 nop, he’s not 🥸

Whats the blade used in the thumbnail?

Hope they make a Dignics 05fx

I am using Dignics 09C on forehand and Tibhar MX-D for backhand on a Xiom Vega Euro blade. While D09 cost me almost double of MX-D i find the MX-D to be faster and a bit more hard. The MX-D suits my looping game better and plan on getting MX-D on both sides when i change my rubbers. D09C didnt work for me...

Can I request U about alternative of Dignics09C? Please Please Please....

Best voice

Blue fire m1 turbo lejos la mejor opción.

Honestly, the ENTIRE ORIGINAL "Tenergy" series by Butterfly are completely outdated by the new ITTF ABS based plastic ball rather than the softer celluloid ones. Therefore, a combination of harder rubbers with more compacted density in the sponge would be the perfect way to go.

@rcbuggies57

Жыл бұрын

that's why there's hard version now.

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

Comentario magistral. Gracias

What about joola rhyzm p coach ?

The video is like a Tenergy05 commercial rather than an advise of its cheap alternatives.

Donic BF M2 - beginner and intermediate level is best rubber. ALL in 1 (all good but not exellent) - best forhand beginner rubber / best backhad in intermediate. (m2 - tenergy 05 FX felling 4 me) T05 is faster and catapult effect is big...

An even cheaper option: Reactor Ckylin Pro (Chinese Donic Bluefire clone) - a great backhand - grippy (not tacky) Chinese rubber

@Bxrzoi

2 жыл бұрын

Always put in my new players is cheap and good

@Waingro808

2 жыл бұрын

needs boosting

@Bxrzoi

2 жыл бұрын

@@Waingro808 I use for new players for the first grippy rubber after change to other better rubbers

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

I think that Palio AK 47 Blue is better. The same price.

1.Bluefire M2 2. Yasaka Raksa 9 3. Fastarc G1 4. XIOM Vega Pro 5. Evolution MXP

@pingsunday

11 ай бұрын

yes

Don't be self conscious about your voice, it is a million times better than the text too speach

ten05 cho tôi cũng không lấy, đơn giản vì nó quá mềm rất khó giật phá xoáy. combo yêu thích spzhang fh dn05 bh ten64

Sorry but i will still stick back with T05, the feeling i have with the rubber is irreplaceable.

Just get the Rosanna and boosted with Falco long and you got yourself a T05.

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

Es posible probar en Rakza Z Extra Hard potenciada para obtener Dignics 09 ? Si fuese posible sería incluso mejor, ya que Rakza Z es más tacki que 09c.

Xiom X are not expensive and really cool , I played with tenergy 05 before

I recommend AK47, Moon speed, Ckylin pro, loki T3, 729 Aurora

@uchihasasuke7436

2 жыл бұрын

Ak47 feels just a tad weird to me, but I'm currently using it as backhand on my tb alc, and it's really not bad at all for 50 rmb (7usd)

@zhuangcorp

2 жыл бұрын

@@uchihasasuke7436 you must live in China. Outside china its more like $13

@manjilyagaan7090

2 жыл бұрын

which one them do you feel the best

@zhuangcorp

2 жыл бұрын

@@manjilyagaan7090 all pretty close. Maybe AK47.

Can you do an alternative for DHS Hurricane 3 national blue sponge..... really expensive 😅

@wonglance4943

Жыл бұрын

One secret, some professional players tested the three different editions of Hurricane 3 on the same blades, including normal version, provincial version and national version, then failed to distinguish which one is the best. Considering that only national and provincial versions are equipped with blue sponge, so the best alternative will be the provincial version Hurricane 3.

Any thoughts on Donic Bluestrom Pro or Bluestorm Z1 Turbo? These two seem to me to have a lot of spin and speed.

@tab.letenni

Жыл бұрын

I'm using Donic Bluestorm z2, Feels simular to Pro but has more spin and is slightly softer in feel. Slightly worse in close to table counters but better from 1.5 m away

@Talanttotel

Жыл бұрын

@@tab.letenni, I've switched from Bluestorm Z1 turbo to Pro. I have it on ALL+ blade cause on OFF- and higher, it is way too fast and hard. In general, I think, Donic is a decent and cheaper alternative to the more costly Butterfly.

Timo Boll 34 years old, Tenergy 05 both sides? Is this video back from 2015?

Coach! What about cheap Chinese rubbers!!!?

nr 1 you spoke about M2 but in your video is M1 nr 2 i come from Europe so i play with 05 because have spin and high arc = attack from short distance ( topspin ) nr 3 do you hear about gewo nanoflex FT .... try it and then make videous ( many people are submitted to your channel ) nr 4 barracuda ( but heavy ) 50 gr cut nr 5 everything is around setup .... blade flex=medium=stiff with corect rubber ... no more words BEST SET-UP HIGH-ARC TB-ZLF 84 GR + barracuda-barracuda = 184 gr VISCARIA 90 gr + tgy 05 with 2 layer boost = 186 gr VISCARIA 90 gr + nanoflex-nanoflex = 180 gr

What if i used victas 15 extra at backhand? That rubber has hardness 47.5 deegre..its have same deegre with tibhar mx-p…What your opinion sir?

@aldopalacios3357

10 ай бұрын

I believe that could be a real option. I'm playing next with Victas 22 on forehand and maybe v15 would be great for backhand. I'll try Joola Dynarys ACC for backhand next.

R7 is the best in its price, great

라크자7 빅타스 V15 엑스트라 파스탁 G1 게보 넥서스 네오플렉스 EL48 엑시움 시그마5 베가텐 오메가4 아시아 티바 MXK 팔리오 블리츠 안드로 핵사 HD 도닉바라쿠다 테너지에 근접 하다고 봅니다

Hi...what about micron 48 from joola? What do u think?

@akinori660

2 жыл бұрын

XIOMならぱ、VEGA PROでは 無く、OMEGA-Ⅴ PRO等だなぁ。

Can you do an alternative for dignics09c ?

@Equaaz

2 жыл бұрын

Rakza Z / Rakza Z Extra Hard. He said it on "best backhand rubber" video

you also can try yinhe moon as an alternative rubber. it has high tension and cheaper

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

Quizás su esponja admita Booster ?

Yasaka Vsco ..old time player

Nittaku goriki kaisoku rubber is very fast rubber with cheaper price. Butterfly rubbers are overprice.

I think that no player would use "alternatives" after having used a Butterfly, now if a player is starting this would be a very good option, but I think that once the butterfly is used there is no going back, if the player wants to keep his level and continue advancing is forced to continue using the same rubbers

@groovecontrol243

Жыл бұрын

Hello Lizet, I disagree. I've used Tenergy 05 and wasn't impressed. £55 a sheet is extortionate. I've used much better rubbers in the past. I won't be going back to Tenergy 05. Currently using Tibhar EVOLUTION MX-P. For me a GAME CHANGER!! And it's cheaper!!

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

Totalmente de acuerdo. Para 15 € de diferencia Tenergy es superior a todas las gomas Europeas y Japonesas.

Do you also consider Stiga Mantra as alternative to Tenergy 05???

why do you recommend tenergy 05 as a backhand rubber rather than forehand? I tend to rely on my forehand drive quite a bit for offense, and I'm used to hitting quite flat, so I feel as though tenergy 05 would synergize well with my playstyle for forehand. I rely on my backhand mostly for catching "oddballs" and use an unconventional backhand loop technique to keep these tough receives on the table

@infinitydk69

2 жыл бұрын

if you want it for hard hits and flat balls then use dignics 64(best dignics in my oppinion)

@peterkajan6645

Жыл бұрын

Tenergy 05 isn't very suitable for flat hits I think. It has very high throw angle so the balls will just fly away on a flat hit :D if you want to hit flat, get something like rakza 9 or some other rubber with low throw angle like tenergy 64

@Yunsalta

Жыл бұрын

​​@@peterkajan6645 what about 05 fx and 1.9 or 2.1

@peterkajan6645

Жыл бұрын

@@Yunsalta 05fx has less throw angle than T05 but it's still high. I use t05fx 1.9 on my backhand for control. Since you can't have a big swing with your backhand, higher throw angle rubbers are better for more shot safety. Also, T05 and it's derivates have a very grippy topsheet. If someone is doing higher spinny shots (like lobbing with backspin, sidespin or topspin), you'll have a harder time smashing the balls, because the rubber reacts on spin very much.

@peterkajan6645

Жыл бұрын

Also I have to mention, that I use t05 2.1 on fh, so I know how it is. But I have a loop playstyle so I use the spin very much. The original commenter said they flat hit a lot, so I recommend a less spinny rubber on the forehand.

Godd substitutes for Tenergy 05 on forehand and Tenergy 64 on backhand I had so far: Fh: Xiom Vega Pro Bh: Xiom Vega Asia Fh: Nittaku Fastarc G-1 Bh: Nittaku Fastarc S-1 / Donic Coppa X1 Gold

Oh I see, but How do you think about Victas V15 Extra rubber?

@418jp

2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I played with V15 Extra max on a TSP Swat power for 2 years. It's a very specific rubber, it is very spin insensitive. So it is very good on service return, block and counter top spin but weak on serve and slow spinny top spin. The first top spin lacks of rotation but after, mid distance counter top spin is a peace of cake. So, it's definitively not a T05 substitute, but it's a unique weapon for a counter initiative player.

@phamdonggiakiem

2 жыл бұрын

@@418jp Thanks bro!

Personally not agree with Dnic bluefire replacement for T05, I do play T05 for fee yearsc but try Donic bluefire totally different feeling, just play twice and say sorry. T05 too much better

Bahasan yang menarik untuk kaum hemat.

Gewo material is good alternative material...

is there any chinise brand which has more similarity or clone

@dxuhuang

Жыл бұрын

Try DHS Gold Arc 8

Hurricane 3 Neo H37 is all what we need.

Summary: Tenergy is not for everyone and there are way more alternatives than the five rubbers mentioned.

Speed glue

1) Donic bluefire M1 2) Yasaka Rakza 9 3) Nittaku Fastarc G1 4) XIOM Vega Pro 5) Tibhar Evolution MX-P

@akinori660

Жыл бұрын

4)Vega pro＞Omega 5 pro

Personally, the best thing that could be used without having to buy the butterfly rubbers, the best purchase would be Cornileau target pro GT-H47, they are like Nittaku G1 but with steroids and super power in every way buying the 2 Corlineau rubbers is almost like buying 1 Butterfly Rubber in Price

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

El precio de esa goma actualmente es de 50 €, además es difícil de conseguir. Por 10 € de diferencia no merece la pena. Yo también estoy cansado de las políticas sobre los precios de Butterfly.

cheap alternative to t05 is a 1/2 used t05 that you get for 20€ on vinted or ebay, that's it :-) 90% of kids watching these videos have max 2 yrs of practice and still think they need 80€ rubbers and 180e blades for playing at their 1000 level :-)))

Coach, I missed your real voice!

You are missing DHS Gold Arc 8. The closest to Tenergy.

I started ping pong only with your coaching videos. I got 2 championships, 1 2nd runner up and 2 MVPs on team events lol... stopped for 2 years bcuz of the pandemic and came back just a week ago.. it's just sad to watch your new videos not hearing your voice lol

結局テナジー05が一番、これに敵うラバーはないと思う。

the problem with this recommendation video is that the people who can play with a tenergy 05 and would need an alternative already know what rubbers to use so the ones watching this are not so high level players and they should actually use softer rubbers like vega europe, rakza 7 fx, donic m3, etc

The narrative has so many contradictory statements. 😂 Esp the segment about Fastarc G1

Have anybody here try gewo “nexus” green rubber??

Redmonkey Spin - Rallys

Why are there no Dignics FX? That would be Nice if this Happens…….

Incroyable. Il n’a même pas le courage d’utiliser sa propre voix.

Каждая накладка уникальна по своему. Зачем искать альтернативу,когда нужно подбирать под свой стиль игры. А стильи и уровни у всех разные,а значит и накладки нужно подбирать индивидуально

@djek555

2 жыл бұрын

научись читать и слушать - речь о том что тенерджи 05 далеко не дешевая накладка, и поэтому в ролике для тех кто ей играет и кому накладно ее покупать предлагают более дешевые аналоги.

@deniswapbi487

Жыл бұрын

@@djek555 прям такие более дешёвые?)

@davidsomo1651

10 ай бұрын

​@@deniswapbi487😂😂😂 10 € Es posible que Fastarc G1 sea buena para otros tipos de jugadores. Pero tienes razón, Tenergy 05 es diferente, las otras son más similares a Tenergy 64 ( un churro de Tenergy ).

Old voice 🥰🥰🥰

I miss this voice so much

So, if tenergy is listed as number 1 in your backhand rubber video, why arent many of these cheap alternatives even on the list of good backhand rubbers?