5 Changes for Phandelver and Below: The Shattered Obelisk

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---- Index ----
00:00 - Phandelver and Below The Shattered Obelisk
01:24 - Fixing Chapter 5: Paths of Peril
03:15 - DM Tip #1 Add Downtime between Wave Echo Cave and Psionic Goblins
04:28 - Fixing Gwyn Oresong
05:08 - DM Tip #2 Do It Live / Phandalin Festival
8:45 - Running Mysteries in Dungeons and Dragons
11:04 - Collecting Shards of the Shattered Obelisk
12:14 - The Secret: Connect Player Characters to the World
13:51 - Tip #3 Leveling and Zorzula's Rest
15:13 - Ruxithid the Chosen
16:19 - Tip #4 Concentrate the Cosmic Horror
17:19 - The Forge of Spells making Magic Items
19:28 - Tip #5 Far Realm Mutations and Collective Game Design
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  • @Kkryptex
    @Kkryptex15 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much, timing of this couldn't be better. Started running a blend of Phandelver/Icespire last year when this came out. I ran it to defeating Zorz but not giving the map. They saved the villagers so it wasn't an immediate threat but looming issue of the "masters" intentions on the obelisk shards. Wrapping up the beyond Icespire chapters and teasing out that this is still an issue when they return to Phandalin by running the mutated cow as Petunia from Butterskull Ranch and last visit they had to find Pip and deal with Gemmules. I'm replacing the 3 dungeons to collect the remaining shards (felt repetitive)with Kryptgarden and another central NPC that had already collected them. (using Hamun Kost as a later villain that isn't in direct conflict yet so willing to trade). I will definitely use your tips to get through the rest of it though. Thanks again!

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Ah that's a nice cow tie-in. You could definitely put the shards anywhere. You get a tiny bit of lore of the fallen illithid empire in the chapter 6 locations but I don't think it adds all that much

  • @thefriendlychap4132
    @thefriendlychap41329 күн бұрын

    Perfect timing. My players just got into the Redbrand's Hideout.

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    9 күн бұрын

    Awesome, watch out for the Nothic

  • @DaveSwitch7

    @DaveSwitch7

    5 күн бұрын

    Same! We just got to the hideout

  • @tristan9588
    @tristan958814 күн бұрын

    Some of the best dungeon master advice out there. Couldnt agree more about the book getting (sometimes) undeserved flak. For me adding my own flair is the best part of running an adventure, and this book gives you so much cool creepy stuff to twist and tweak as you see fit

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks! High praise

  • @TwinSteel
    @TwinSteel15 күн бұрын

    Pulling together / editing down the cast and giving the PCs a chance to bask in their success: good move - giving the characters fun games to play in a festival only to essentially have a bomb go off in the middle is a great way to give the players the same shock and confusion, the characters should be having - “We’ll Do It Live!” - fully agree that it’s a must to keep what the PCs have already done matter - I wonder what would happen if the PCs decided to actually join - could be an interesting hard right turn - yes, take every chance you get to up the ante - love the idea of a magic item factory - could be a draw for some interesting magic item eating creatures - definitely should contribute to the idea of the city being their home base, furthering their connection to it - mechanical consequences to narrative - events is primo - love generating the mutations with the players: investment breeds interest - if they’re part of the creation process, they’ll naturally have more fun with it in-game - good move having pros and cons for the mutations - great stuff 👍🏿

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    I like these concurrent comments, it's cool to get insight on the viewers mind set while they watch. I looked up your buddy, great stuff. I'm going to reach out next week

  • @TwinSteel

    @TwinSteel

    15 күн бұрын

    @@RdotDoyle thanks - I’ve been trying it out - also saves me from posting something that you end up addressing later 😄 - that’s great news - really glad you like what you saw - Josh will be pumped

  • @Sylancewillfall
    @Sylancewillfall14 күн бұрын

    Im currently about to enter wave echo cave, i have planned a travelling circus/caravan forced to move due to the mind goblins causing mischief. I was planning a more social journey, being able to seek out vendors and specific shops, armour, weapons, general magic items. With the night ending in the fighting pits with an NPC they had fought at the start of their adventure. All the while if they explore the town they find the goblins looting and gathering the shards. If not then the goblins go unnoticed. Turns out the goblins needed a distraction to steal the shards without interruption

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    14 күн бұрын

    ah cool, that's another interesting approach

  • @cffusionz355
    @cffusionz35515 күн бұрын

    Started my DM journey in October and your original series really helped me. My players are currently on ‘Chapter 3.5’ because chapter 3 wasn’t suited to the style of game my players want. Just about to start Wave Echo Cave, so a playlist on what’s come couldn’t come at a better time. I really hope you’re able to make that playlist. Thank you I love your content.

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to let me know! Happy to have been of service

  • @OLC62
    @OLC6215 күн бұрын

    I'd love to see this series continue. I just started running this campaign as my first time GMing, and we're just about at this transition period. I found your channel when I started and have taken some of your advise. Had a blast in the first half, and I really think the second turns it up. Looking forward to it!

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Happy to hear it. There's some valid criticism on this book but I've had a lot of fun with it

  • @captainron7120
    @captainron712012 күн бұрын

    “This ain’t the starter set anymore, baby…” haha!

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    9 күн бұрын

    That almost got cut but I loved the line too much

  • @rhmagalhaes
    @rhmagalhaes8 күн бұрын

    Great timing. I used your LMoP to start my PnB

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    7 күн бұрын

    Awesome, glad to hear it

  • @RuneGM
    @RuneGM15 күн бұрын

    Definitely hoping for a full series on this. I bought the adventure right before I ended up making the decision to leave 5e for shadowdark. I still want to run the adventure and "convert" it to shadowdark because I feel the horror aspects of the story would fit pretty well with shadowdark but the adventure seems so rigid and linear that it would clash with the free form sandbox that shadowdark works best with.

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Yeah the more systems you run the more you realize you can translate things. This one is pretty linear in general, and while I love and gravitate more wide open world design I kind of accept it here because Phandalin is in real trouble if we go sidequesting and fart around for awhile.

  • @DaveSwitch7
    @DaveSwitch75 күн бұрын

    Yess! Please prepare the full playlist!

  • @DaveSwitch7

    @DaveSwitch7

    5 күн бұрын

    I have just bought the book and was reading it now, We are at the redbrand manor right now in the story

  • @PittsburghPat
    @PittsburghPat15 күн бұрын

    Great title!!

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Thanks Pat!

  • @WizardsWarpDrives-g7j
    @WizardsWarpDrives-g7j15 күн бұрын

    Nice work as per usual Mr Doyle

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Thanks, I love the logo!

  • @wizardsling
    @wizardsling15 күн бұрын

    For the life of me, I can't understand why they didn't thread the new and old content together better in the written adventure. It really wouldn't have taken that much more work to drop in more foreshadowing in the lvls 1-5 parts. Harumph.

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Harumph indeed. I think they would have been better off just not even touching LMoP and doing this as a true sequel. Why revisit the OG only to do the tiniest amount of ineffective foreshadowing? That's why I like my way of letting the two stories breath better

  • @HowtoRPG
    @HowtoRPG15 күн бұрын

    Hi Ryan. I have been watching the views and like count go up and down as I watch. Is this bots being removed or funky KZread bug?

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Hey hey! That's pretty weird actually, no idea. I don't have full analytics because this just went up, but I don't see any dislikes on this one. You can undo a like I believe, but you can't undo a view, so I have no idea how that count could go down ever. KZread has had weird reporting glitches in the past that they go adjust.

  • @HowtoRPG

    @HowtoRPG

    15 күн бұрын

    @@RdotDoyle Yep. Just thought I would let you know. See you in a few days.

  • @LeeGray929
    @LeeGray92915 күн бұрын

    Any quick recommendation for going from dragon of icespire peak right into Phandelver? I was thinking about skipping right to chapter 5

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    15 күн бұрын

    Great question! I think you could take the same approach I lay out here without changing much. Insert a stretch of downtime / time lapse, let the PCs invest in the town, then maybe the celebration is about the slaying of Cryovain or ending the orc threat

  • @rhmagalhaes
    @rhmagalhaes8 күн бұрын

    Can you merge PnB with DoIP and DoSI and make it a huge campaign ? How would you approach it ? Since you had that 1m in between chapters.

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    7 күн бұрын

    Great question! The short answer is absolutely. The approach would depend on your taste and what the players respond too. Easiest answer is to take your favorite bits from DOIP and insert them into the sandboxy section of LMOP between the Redbrands and Cragmaw Castle. You could also insert some DOIP into that interlude of downtime I describe. Orcs make trouble, it becomes clear they've been driven out by Cryovain: the gang climbs a mountain and slays a dragon. Almost like a one/two shot that takes place within that downtime segment, which I might make a year if I were doing it this way. Is that helpful?

  • @chooweezane
    @chooweezane15 күн бұрын

    FIRST!!

  • @culturalproduct
    @culturalproduct14 күн бұрын

    So not interested in psionic goblins. The whole book just feels like too much over the top. Lots of window dressing and not much story substance. Anyhow, I’m thinking maybe I can modify it so the mindflayers are removed and all the goofy meaty dungeon stuff. Forgot to say, if one is going to run this, your suggested changes are great. Not a fan of the forge going into mass production. We haven’t got there yet, but my plan is for the cave to collapse, the forge sinks into somewhere out of reach, and is lost.

  • @RdotDoyle

    @RdotDoyle

    9 күн бұрын

    Yeah, this one isn't for everybody. I'm for it because I think we gotta go over the top to match the ton of tier three

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