5 Bike Setup Mistakes You Should Avoid

5 bike fit blunders that James sees most often.
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  • @JoSantino147
    @JoSantino1473 жыл бұрын

    Bike fit Tuesdays always circle around the same points, yet I'm still learning stuff each time. This is a great public service!

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes there is always the underlying message to avoid formulaic methods and the importance of getting a good bike fit before buying!

  • @dafred9898
    @dafred98983 жыл бұрын

    James going to bike shops and doing a "Gordan Ramsey" review of bike fitting, what could be more perfect than that?

  • @dallaslukacsi9313

    @dallaslukacsi9313

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hells Fitting!!!

  • @AndrewBlucher

    @AndrewBlucher

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except for Gordon Ramsey.

  • @RyonBeachner

    @RyonBeachner

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m trying to think of a bike fit equivalent of lamb sauce.

  • @milanb.6022

    @milanb.6022

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd finance it on bike fit shark tank

  • @yinyangbikepackingadventur4606

    @yinyangbikepackingadventur4606

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RyonBeachner cleat position?

  • @milanb.6022
    @milanb.60223 жыл бұрын

    Most KZread bike fitters: Try to appear serious while spouting complete nonsense James: Goofs about while spreading true knowledge Once again proof that the less important something appears to be, the more important it probably is

  • @ultraruna
    @ultraruna3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing, had my 56 cm Tarmac sl nicked awhile ago, just replaced it with a second hand 54 cm frame (from a mate). Built up with spare stuff. Its the most comfortable bike Ive ridden. I will pay more attention to James and his bike fit advice from now on as he is spot on advising a smaller frame.

  • @the.communist

    @the.communist

    Жыл бұрын

    Many folks say: if you wanna be relaxed n comfy on the bike go for a size up. I disagree.

  • @medrict
    @medrict3 жыл бұрын

    1) Saddle height 2) Reach is too long 3) Handlebars too wide 4) Shoes too big 5) Bike is too big

  • @Bayo106

    @Bayo106

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think I have all these issues 😪

  • @iannixey8779

    @iannixey8779

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep me to! 😒

  • @thedistance1155

    @thedistance1155

    3 жыл бұрын

    Number 2 and 4 is my problem I think

  • @papagatorackspanner

    @papagatorackspanner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Basically, everyone is playing billy big-baws. At 5'7"/172cm you'd have thought I would have the issue with my size and be wearing the loose t-shirts. But it sounds like everyone has to get over the issue.

  • @rebeccalowery8568
    @rebeccalowery85683 жыл бұрын

    Can we hear James’ story on starting his own business? It’d be super interesting to hear how people can make a living through their passions!

  • @alextaylor7575

    @alextaylor7575

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I second this. I'd find this interesting

  • @robwhite7976

    @robwhite7976

    3 жыл бұрын

    beck lowery 100%!

  • @JK-im9ij

    @JK-im9ij

    3 жыл бұрын

    I second this too! :)

  • @arguello1

    @arguello1

    3 жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @anthonyhomercycling

    @anthonyhomercycling

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m guessing you are all new to this channel? 😉 Scroll to old vids

  • @thompson9451
    @thompson94513 жыл бұрын

    About to fly to London just to have this man fit me

  • @JimDenham
    @JimDenham3 жыл бұрын

    The big bike issue could have gotten me had I NOT bought my bike from a bike shop. The bike companies would have had me more in a 54 based on height, but the 52 they had on hand, which the guys initially thought was too small, turned out to be perfect because my inseam was shorter. Ordering online would have resulted in a bike that was too big! Good tips!

  • @nigelatkinson2939
    @nigelatkinson29393 жыл бұрын

    I have found your videos incredibly informative. As I result I totally changed the setup of my 56cm Cannondale Synapse. Two weeks ago I bought a 54cm BMC Roadmachine and I am a very happy bunny.

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sweet!

  • @davidmellor5605
    @davidmellor56053 жыл бұрын

    Got my 1st bike this week in manchester and cant wait. I like that ‘if you feel you are over reaching you most definitely are’ Im definitely over reaching so looking forward to sorting that out

  • @daihatsu7869
    @daihatsu78692 жыл бұрын

    Watched this morning before going for a short-ish ride (37km) - flipped my stem, dropped the saddle, moved it forwards (also applied some toe-in to my levers) - what a difference. Much more comfortable. Glad I watched the video, as it'll make Nighrider London much more comfortable next weekend!

  • @andrewlucero3553
    @andrewlucero35533 жыл бұрын

    I have been lowering my saddle height a few mm every few rides and have been seeing benefits. Bike Fit Tuesday videos are what brought me to your channel. If I was in the UK I'd be bringing him bike fit business.

  • @kevinfrost1579
    @kevinfrost15793 жыл бұрын

    Every word a gem. Get the knowledge and expertise for years of comfortable trouble free riding - invest in that before you buy. Riding smiles equals riding miles. Thanks guys awesome video, IMHO the best summary of top practice out there. Bravo.

  • @vikzata
    @vikzata3 жыл бұрын

    An absolute legend! Pretty good summarization of the things that you've explained many many times. Keep it up!

  • @sifi7950
    @sifi79503 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to hear your/James’ thoughts regarding road bs gravel bike set up!

  • @neal9151
    @neal91513 жыл бұрын

    Something I wondered about was how much bike fitting affects comfort and handling and is there a point where you have to say you need a different sized bike - in the context of a higher saddle height may allow more flex for comfort, and a shorter/longer stem or wider bars may allow more or less control depending upon the use of the bike; such as a gravel bike. Or are these things quite minor. Love the bike fit videos with James - he is a total star!

  • @andrewmwylie
    @andrewmwylie3 жыл бұрын

    Learnt a good fair bit from these recent bike fit/setup videos, every point has sound reasoning behind it. Made some decent changes on a new bike, all for the better. Cheers!

  • @CycoWarriorx
    @CycoWarriorx3 жыл бұрын

    After going my first year and half without a proper bike fit, I thought the pain and discomfort was part of the process. Had the wrong sized shoes too. Got fitted (and refitted to a new bike) and got the right sized pair of shoes; life is good. I’m such an advocate the first thing I tell anyone asking about road cycling is to get a bike fit AND clarifying that a bike fit isn’t from the guy who sold you the Bike telling you you look good on it. Lol 🍻

  • @matthiasbrock6381
    @matthiasbrock63813 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this channel, very helpful. For me however, the opposite of James's favorite tips was true. I had my saddle put up by 2 cm, my reach extended, and stem "slammed" by 3cm at a bike fit. Oh, just to tick some boxes: Longer stem as well. This did the trick in easing my lower back pain and feeling more comfortable on the bike. Weird, but I guess this just shows how tricky and unique bike fitting is and that basically everybody should get one.

  • @elmerrichardson6413
    @elmerrichardson64133 жыл бұрын

    Great video on bike fit blunders and I own a bike from that direct company you're talking about. At 6'5, I got a size XL. I have followed most of James instructions from his bike fit Tuesdays and what he say works! Once I got the seat height and cleat position set, I was good to go. BTW my shoe size is 50. I've tried several shoe sizes less that 50 and returned all of them. Thanks FC and James, keep schooling them!🚲

  • @Alllivesmatterloveeverone
    @Alllivesmatterloveeverone3 жыл бұрын

    always enjoy bike fit Tuesday. great advice thank you both.

  • @Osteoandyogi
    @Osteoandyogi3 жыл бұрын

    This I simply the best video for anyone to watch who cycles.......Such great wisdom, as a Osteopath this guys rocks knowledge, stay safe and keep up videos-chaps.

  • @leepantsify
    @leepantsify3 жыл бұрын

    "Your Saddle is Too High Tuesdays"

  • @andycorso8498
    @andycorso84983 жыл бұрын

    Keep preaching boys, some of it will get thru.......eventually 👏

  • @thebikepackingadventurer
    @thebikepackingadventurer3 жыл бұрын

    James is a legend, I have wasted money on 2 other fits years ago, felt good until putting power down outside over distance. Went to James and never felt so good on a bike. Highly recommend

  • @sw6493
    @sw64933 жыл бұрын

    Dude - Bike Fit Tuesdays with James are the best. Thanks for another one!

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    ✌️

  • @serotta529
    @serotta5293 жыл бұрын

    Spot on. At 5’ 10” also, I have consistently opted for smaller frames than most manufacturers recommend - typically 53/54. Thanks for affirming I’m not crazy!

  • @arne_mh

    @arne_mh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, I'm 6'0" and a lot of manufacturers recommend a 58, my legs are really long and even with a 56 felt like I had to do some straight up yoga on bike, luckily a short stem fixed that....

  • @marcvaldez9163

    @marcvaldez9163

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys what roadbike size would you recommend me btw im 5'9 ???

  • @K777John

    @K777John

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too, I had a bike fit on my first bike which was a 56-I was advised by the fitter that although I was managing the bike ok it was at the outer edge of adjustment and as I got older and stiffer would be to big. I should add that I am 5ft 9in with 32in inside leg, and was 69 when I had the fit. I am 72 now and ride a 54-with an 80mm stem-bike is very comfy to ride, 100 mile days no problem.

  • @marcvaldez9163

    @marcvaldez9163

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@K777John ohh i see so soze 54 is good for a 5'9 rider ....because here in the philippines its so hard to find a size 54 up frames they all end up to size 52 because not all asians are tall so i am having a hard time but i found a size 54 frameset from mosso hope to build it soon

  • @Bayo106

    @Bayo106

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm 5ft10 and my with my 54 I still feel like I'm stretching or reaching. my saddle is likely a little high and handle bars too wide

  • @andrewtang7216
    @andrewtang72163 жыл бұрын

    Love the energy and passion that you guys bring to your channel. Because of your videos, I've been able to get a bike that fits me properly 2nd time round! Been riding a gravel bike in a L (60) for the best part of 16 months and ooooh what a journey it’s been. Sizing came about from the old school “height = bike size” chart gubbins. Bike salesman says you’re a large (I’m 5’11 - 6ft on a good day). You think everything is rosy, pedal about on it for 2 mins to check all is good, pay your money and roll out of the store. Oh how wrong was I…. I felt like I was beaten up every time I rode it. You name it, I suffered from it. Numb undercarriage/neck/shoulder/numb hands/hot foot/lower back pain, over stretched. Everything under the sun. Even bought a cut out saddle (helped a little) and changed the stem to a slightly shorter one but alas, it was money poured down the drain. Enough was enough, cut my losses and sold the bike last month before I did any lasting damage to myself. Because of these brilliant BFT videos I've now got a bike that actually fits me (54 (S) endurance bike).

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sweet!

  • @andreyswiesciak-maddox7242
    @andreyswiesciak-maddox7242 Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with #1. I also shortened the crank. Feels much better.

  • @daaknait
    @daaknait3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this, really helpful!

  • @Bu5t3R
    @Bu5t3R3 жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting that James said he’s 5’10 and rides a 53. I am 5’10 like James and I’ve been riding a 56 for the past 11 years because it was my first road bike that I bought just for a charity ride. For years I’ve slowly changed things out and made small adjustments until I feel I got close to perfect for my size. Couldn’t do it anymore. I went and looked at a 53, took it for a spin, I loved it! It was an 8 year old Wilier so I considered it but then decided on a new bike. Every person in the bike shops when I told them the 53 felt perfect gave me a look and said that’s too small! I ended up getting a 54 because the size runs 52-54-56. So glad I went smaller. Now I need to get my saddle right.

  • @DougTheSnowMan

    @DougTheSnowMan

    3 жыл бұрын

    My 53 is seeming to large for me, Im also 5 10, but my Frame has a 54.5 top tube and 3t bars with a 110 stem, so it may just be a reach issue. Can't reach the levers in the drops...

  • @Bu5t3R

    @Bu5t3R

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DougTheSnowMan my 56 had a 120 stem and I switched it out for a 100 and the problem I ran into is that it’s still a little too much reach, trouble reaching the brakes from the drop and I still have to move my hands back from the hoods. Plus it changes the geometry too much. My plan is now that I got a bike that fits me a lot better I’m going to take the old bike apart and rebuild it with proper components to make it a work of art that will be right at home amongst my other bikes.

  • @echtogammut

    @echtogammut

    3 жыл бұрын

    Frame size is a bad way of measuring a bike. You can take a dozen 56 bikes and measure their ETT and they will be widely different. It's more important to get fitted on a jig and then compare your ideal measurements to bike geometry measurements (almost always available on manufacture websites). Pick the size and geo that either matches or is smaller than ideal, rather than worry about if it is a 53,54,55 or 56.

  • @Bu5t3R

    @Bu5t3R

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@echtogammut point is that it’s not one size fits all. I bought my bike based on size first and then fit. I took it out for a ride before deciding on it. The bike shops all kept saying 56 and that the 53 Wilier was too small. I said it’s like shoes... not all brands fit your feet the same way and one companies 11 is another’s 10.5. I’m not racing or taking myself too serious so my bike allows me to be fast enough for enjoyment and comfortable enough for the long rides I love to put in.

  • @AndrewBlucher

    @AndrewBlucher

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@echtogammut Yes, many brands use ETT now but not everyone. It's the only measure that makes sense with compact frames.

  • @speedy7974
    @speedy79743 жыл бұрын

    Love bike fit Tuesdays and getting bombarded by James 👌

  • @wattootang
    @wattootang3 жыл бұрын

    Saddle height! I couldn't ride more than 30 miles without huge amounts of pain! After watching a previous video on saddle height where James mentioned catching the top tube with one knee, my problem was solved! Apparently now I'm a mileage monster! A cycling game changer for me! Cheers..

  • @bryanharding5249
    @bryanharding52493 жыл бұрын

    Made absolutely perfect sense, thank you.

  • @Gijzzzzzzzzz
    @Gijzzzzzzzzz3 жыл бұрын

    awesome content, thanks so much man!

  • @caleonard35
    @caleonard352 жыл бұрын

    Great channel and helpful advice.

  • @leebridgwater
    @leebridgwater3 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your channel, great work

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks Lee!

  • @nuriaflores2253
    @nuriaflores22533 жыл бұрын

    James dropping knowledge like corn kernels! Great video, as usual. Cheers, guys! 🍻🍻🍻

  • @XBKLYN
    @XBKLYN Жыл бұрын

    "Opening up the hips, yadda yadda yadda." Love it!

  • @johnreese3762
    @johnreese37623 жыл бұрын

    Great info/video! Entertaining too!! Thanks!

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John!

  • @ronalddriver8628
    @ronalddriver86283 жыл бұрын

    I’m 5’4”, worked 20+ years in bike shops, and agree 1000% that people get bikes too big. The biggest problem I saw was with shorter riders. Most bike shops have average to tall riders and most can’t relate to smaller rider needs. Most of my fittings resulted in installing a shorter stem and, possibly, shorter reach and narrower handlebars. However, much like the Uber tall peeps, most bike brands don’t do small frames justice. In the mid-90’s I rode the smallest bike my shop offered… a 50cm Cannondale which had a 525mm TT with 110-120mm stem and big reach and drop bars! Now I’m on a 46cm with a 510mm TT and 80-100mm stem (depending on my flexibility, how I’ve been feeling, etc) and short reach and shallow drop bars. Also, a lot of shops set up their bikes on the floor with stem in the “7” position. When I had my shop, I had the bikes set up in the most upright position.

  • @billinhouston3291
    @billinhouston32913 жыл бұрын

    These are the only videos in all of KZread that I watch at 1.0 speed. James is dropping knowledge like, uhhh, a peloton dropping water bottles before a big climb?

  • @bjpigott1900
    @bjpigott19002 жыл бұрын

    I so like the no nonsense advice !

  • @paulmorrison30
    @paulmorrison302 жыл бұрын

    Definitely my newly discovered favourite KZread channel 👊🏾👏🏾✊🏾

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    2 жыл бұрын

    ✌️

  • @alwaysanotheradventure
    @alwaysanotheradventure2 жыл бұрын

    Just found this. Best bike fit I’ve had was James when at Sigma. Came down from Scotland for it

  • @underbikedoverconfident1142
    @underbikedoverconfident11423 жыл бұрын

    While I'm guilty of 2 of the 5 mistakes on my road bike which I did even know were wrong prior to bike fit Tuesdays and now I'm starting to feel the issues (stem too long bars too wide). I actually had pain in my right knee the other day on my MTB which I solved by raising the saddle 10mm so in conclusion bike fitting is hard and we could all do with a bike fit James to help us out.

  • @ostelaymetaule
    @ostelaymetaule2 жыл бұрын

    Loved to see a similar video with some actual information on how high the saddle should be and without chewing gum

  • @dominicward3523
    @dominicward35233 жыл бұрын

    Very good video. Thanks James Still waiting for the reach around joke though.

  • @timothytopor4362
    @timothytopor43623 жыл бұрын

    Another great video well done James love the series and agree completely! One point I’d be interested in hearing is how the hydraulic levers with all brands going disc are affecting reach and sizing? Worth mentioning and driving some click bait lol

  • @waisinglee1509
    @waisinglee15093 жыл бұрын

    Last year, I went to a professional bike fitter here in SG before buying a bike. I had a bike in mind but he looked at me, looked at the geometry chart of the bike and said no, it was too big for me. Bummer! So, I brought up my second choice. He looked at the chart and said I was a size 50 (XS). The bike's designer/manufacturer's chart said I should buy a 52 (S) according to my height. I was skeptical but I ordered the frameset in. When it arrived and I took it out of the box I was shocked at how tiny it was! The shop built it up and it fits me perfectly! So glad that I went to him now because if I had followed the recommendation...ugh!

  • @daviddawn9043
    @daviddawn90434 ай бұрын

    This is probably best common sense bike fit video on youtube

  • @RichBaggio
    @RichBaggio3 жыл бұрын

    Yes!! I feel exactly like I’m doing a plank when I ride my bike.

  • @terry.hudson
    @terry.hudson3 жыл бұрын

    James is like Martin Lewis the financial guy but for bikes. Gets like 1000 great tips into a minute and it's all understandable 😄

  • @johnclement7621
    @johnclement76213 жыл бұрын

    Love this content

  • @FPL_Drago
    @FPL_Drago3 жыл бұрын

    Completely correct. I'm 6'2" and I'm a medium. Started off as a large. I still have that bike and it is HUGE. Definitely get a fit first. Can't recommended enough so you don't waste money in the long run.

  • @mwgoldfix
    @mwgoldfix3 жыл бұрын

    The king of bike fitters

  • @nagylevi3827
    @nagylevi38272 жыл бұрын

    I got two rules in life: when your tailor is done with your pants measurements, have him add another centimeter to the length and when the guy in the shop is done with your bike fitting, go down one size on the frame. Great video. I've made all these mistakes over the years and have the knee pain to prove it. If your video spares even a single rider of such pain, your work will have been worth it.

  • @markjthomson
    @markjthomson3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting comment about manufacturers sizing... yes, I've learned a "medium" could be anything from too small to legs swinging free of pedals too large... almost as bad as bottom bracket standards!

  • @DougTheSnowMan
    @DougTheSnowMan3 жыл бұрын

    We need James and Francis on Alternative Cycling Network weekly livestream!

  • @anthonyhomercycling
    @anthonyhomercycling3 жыл бұрын

    Great tips !!! I’m buying an xs frame next year so I can I have a 130mm stem 😊 I’m 165cm

  • @snoopdriggy
    @snoopdriggy3 жыл бұрын

    love this guy !

  • @myuserbloodyname
    @myuserbloodyname3 жыл бұрын

    I've always found it odd that a lot of road cyclists are riding a bike too big (or set up as such) and it's only since I built up a 40 year old road frame last year that I now see your reasons why. Growing up on 90's/00's mtb things were kind of the other way round i.e. size down for maneuverability so I seem to have got my sizing figured out on the road... I like to think :)

  • @Musketman84th
    @Musketman84th3 жыл бұрын

    Totally thinking about flying over to England from Canada just to see James unless he does overseas house calls🙂

  • @aljaliah6868
    @aljaliah68683 жыл бұрын

    No high amount of RED BULL was consumed before the shooting of this video , James is just naturally this hyper (passionate). He did mine in a different era and a different location and if there is such a thing as perfect then his work comes pretty close. I cannot recommend enough to have a bikefit and although the several changes that can be made (millimetres) but you will feel the difference in the way you are literally moulded onto and around your bike and also the comfort that produces when doing longer rides.

  • @bikefitjames5579

    @bikefitjames5579

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Glad to hear it 🤟🏻

  • @johnnydoe66
    @johnnydoe663 жыл бұрын

    My problem was that my bike was purchased for me by a friend. It was a last year's stock, one size too big (I normally ride a 56 and this was a "59" according to Masi), and a final no return purchase. I have managed to make it work perfectly believe it or not. First was a zero offset seatpost, one size shorter stem, and a narrower bar, after all that I have used the advice from James on BFT.....no issues with comfort no matter the mileage ridden. It literally measured out to within an 1/8" to my original bike on reach, but the bar to seat drop was less, but better for me at my age.

  • @SparksHealth
    @SparksHealth3 жыл бұрын

    Always great info. Any trips coming up

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing for now!

  • @buffalomind6838
    @buffalomind68383 жыл бұрын

    Imagine riding for two decades to finally realize what you instinctively felt about the size of bike someone else said was correct because of your particular height isn’t necessarily true. Thanks guys for lending confidence to us who for whatever reason choose to allow someone else to dictate how something ought to be done. Sure if everyone functioned optimally with the same gear well this video would not be needed. Cheers!

  • @natezier7481
    @natezier74813 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a video with James where there's a deep dive into getting the right size of bike. This is a problem I've had looking at bikes. I sit right around 6'0", slightly shorter arms. I've ridden everything between 54-58 with varied comfort. So, how do you make sure the geometry is right for you. What do you look for on that bikes geometry chart?

  • @marcelnali

    @marcelnali

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here. I'm 6'0" but the majority of my height is in the torso. All the bike shops want to put me on a 56 and if I ever suggest trying a 54 they look at me as if I had two heads. The 55 I ended up with has finally been adjusted (by me) to where I think it fits well, (changed the bars from 42 to 40), but 55 is rare and if I wanted a new bike, I wonder what I would do?

  • @AndrewBlucher

    @AndrewBlucher

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marcelnali Firstly, specify whether you are measuring Seat Tube or Top Tube. Effective top tube is almost ubiquitous, but not quite, because with current compact frames its the most limiting measurement. Next, if you are taking an off the peg frame and are between sizes, take the smaller one. Between seat setback and stem length changes it can be set up to fit. You can't easily make a big frame smaller. Third option is custom build. Not cheap but not as expensive as some might imagine. The main drawbacks apart from price are the time it takes, and that you have so many choices. So many. Cheers.

  • @theripper121

    @theripper121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nastyhabitz Really argee with you here. I got into riding at the height of the pandemic and supply issues. I was able to find a bike I could actually afford and using the manufactures suggested sizing and being the only size available for that model put me into a 58 and I think I really would have been served better with a 56.

  • @michaelquinlan4817
    @michaelquinlan4817 Жыл бұрын

    "If I just spend all my time telling you what I know, it's impossible for me to learn anything." A little quote I try to live by. I'm always a little uneasy when people have this much confidence, that they have all the anwers. I have heard most of what is being said enough times to know that there is a lot of genuine knowledge and experience being shared here, which is to be commended. I just don't think it's right to scare people off trying either other fitters or having a go themselves. Get out there, ride your bike, do your own maintenance, learn some stuff (These guys are great for that!), fit yourself (A video is great to see if you actually look like you think you do.), make some mistakes, love bikes!

  • @jameslovelock7902
    @jameslovelock79023 жыл бұрын

    Really helpful advice. Thank you chaps!! I bought first instead of getting fitted, but it sounds like luckily I’ll be ok as I erred on the size of caution. (Do you see what I did there?)

  • @marmaladeolivia642
    @marmaladeolivia6423 жыл бұрын

    Great video.

  • @chrisb_rc
    @chrisb_rc3 жыл бұрын

    Bike fit tuesday on a tuesday - this is absolute madness :)

  • @damianhenniger
    @damianhenniger3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vids! Want to ride with you guys!

  • @AnthonyLock92
    @AnthonyLock923 жыл бұрын

    I started off with a 56 frame with 44 bars. I bar tape had warn out on the side of the hoods, so obviously too wide. I know ride a 51 and 40 bars. Reach is still too long so need so sort out my handlebar position and maybe a new stem. Still need to get a bike fit at some point. but from these videos I am noticeably closer!

  • @gw7392
    @gw73923 жыл бұрын

    Worst ever bike fit mistake I’ve seen on this channel is Jame’s moustache whist on his bike.

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @cycling2005
    @cycling20053 жыл бұрын

    If your quads are sore after a big effort, and your hamstrings and glutes are not, your seat is too high. The ideal spot is when all 3 muscle groups work/fatigue equally. Agree most people fitted in bike shops are 20mm too high. Have spent the last 30 years thinking I knew how to set my saddle height. Recently went to a highly skilled fitter with back and knee pain, who dropped my seat 22mm. Feels very strange initially, but all my asymmetries, aches and pains are gone and I have more power. I would put cleats too far forward before shoes being too big as a common mistake. There is very little to no downsides to getting the cleats as far back in the shoes as they will physically go. If the seat goes down as well you don't lose the ability to spin a good cadence.

  • @primomasella8168
    @primomasella81683 жыл бұрын

    James loves saying 'asymmetrical interaction with the saddle' :-)

  • @Maximilz
    @Maximilz3 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, turns out James bike shop is at the end of my road! I guess its not too far to travel.

  • @JonathanCox94
    @JonathanCox943 жыл бұрын

    I took James’ advice on a previous video about handlebar width and bought some 38’s. While they felt better at first over time I found I rested my palm too much on the bar where it bends around to the hood and had issues, got some 44 bars out of curiosity and the outside of my hands were more resting and distributed better which I found interesting

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting!

  • @harmen1832
    @harmen18322 жыл бұрын

    I'm 6'3 with a large inseam size (3'1) and had a size 58 bike with standard sized stem. Now I switched to a size 61 Tarmac with a shorter stem and I finally cycle without pain

  • @jiboo6850
    @jiboo68503 жыл бұрын

    me too i was riding a bike that was off for me. my chance was when i found that the frame + saddle + saddle height and tilt were right for me (48 + 70cms SH i'm 5'7). at least i got that. but the stem was too short and too low. and my handlebars were too wide. 44 that i changed for 40. my saddle was too far behind too. so from a 48 frame + -6° 100mm stem + 44 handlebars + saddle too far back >to> 48 frame + 120mm with 35° rise + 40mm handlebars + saddle about in the middle of the rails. i took the right decision to stop cycling 2 weeks before the fitting to feel more incline to accept the drastic change. if you ride the days before, any small change will be perceived as huge and will make you uncomfortable. which is counter productive for the fitting and the fitter. i wanted to be able to stick to what he achieved for me. i prepared my mind to accept the change. the thing that jumped into my face when i rode my bike after the fitting was how easy i was clipping the cleats. the pedal was right where it should be and clipped right away. i'm not searching for it like before. the other problem i had was the weird feeling i had in the climbs. sitted i was not happy at all, i couldn't put the ower down. now i feel like i can put the power down no matter where i am. i really do feel connected. handling in the corners is like papa into mama. my weight is well distributed on the wheels. if you put a scale under each wheel, i'm sure i'd be close to 50/50 balance.

  • @Hosant123
    @Hosant1233 жыл бұрын

    I watched this to reassure my decision of buying a 53 frame after considering all the specs of the bike and my experience of 55 frames being too big. Yet, all the guides say that I'm a 55. Including a 'bike fit' that I had prior purchasing my 56 roubaix 4 years ago.

  • @kenshinnakamura1185
    @kenshinnakamura11853 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE YOU FRANCIS

  • @jerryanker2289
    @jerryanker22893 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful

  • @robertbloxham7825
    @robertbloxham78253 жыл бұрын

    "you could poach a salmon in that"... that's going to keep me laughing all day!... brilliant vid! 👍👍

  • @Cade_Media

    @Cade_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    haha thanks Robert

  • @alienaudaxer9827
    @alienaudaxer98273 жыл бұрын

    Interesting stuff this, there's so much to consider that has so far slipped me by. I'm 5 11 and usually found 56 was the best fit for me. I have a BMC Roadmachine in 56 which fits pretty nice but I'm not super happy with how it rides, particularly on low percentage inclines, but that's prob more to do with the carbon layup rather than the sizing. Somehow I enjoy my older racer size 58 with a super short stem. Now, after watching this, I'm tempted to try out a 54 or 55 and see how that feels. Scheduling a bike fit is sliding up my list of priorities.

  • @MichaelE.Douroux
    @MichaelE.Douroux3 жыл бұрын

    Great channel! Might have missed it, but has BFT ever covered proper bike posture?

  • @reldwob22
    @reldwob223 жыл бұрын

    Went from 'finding James very annoying', to 'this guy is a genius', during this video. Subscribed!

  • @halnorwood6978
    @halnorwood69783 жыл бұрын

    Biggest comfort increases I've had on my bike are 38/36cm bars, the narrower the better - takes all of the pressure off the shoulders and arms. Also ride 2 sizes smaller than 'recommended' as I've always found recommended frame sizes too big. Guilty of 120 neg rise stem however...

  • @TheUltimateULTRA
    @TheUltimateULTRA3 жыл бұрын

    A video on what size TT bike you should buy and how wide the base bars and aero bars should be

  • @alanwright4628
    @alanwright46282 жыл бұрын

    I would love to hear more about handlebar height. Please 🙏

  • @Ballacks101
    @Ballacks1013 жыл бұрын

    Question for James, if I have already bought a bike that I'm pretty sure is a little big for me (It was the bike I was dreaming about and I found it on offer with a slight scratch for £2500 off list price), is it still worth getting a fit to rejig it and make it fit a little better or will you just tut and tell me off for the entire fit session?

  • @garethjones3806
    @garethjones38063 жыл бұрын

    I occasionally suffer from asymmetrical interaction with my toilet seat after a night on the beers. I should lower the seat height.

  • @stevek8829

    @stevek8829

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not too low, it makes prayer more difficult.

  • @edmundscycles1

    @edmundscycles1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oddly a lower toilet aids in taking a dump as it straightens out the back passage so the poo flows out easier with less bends to navigate . It prevents constipation and possible damage to the anus .

  • @adydow
    @adydow3 жыл бұрын

    Sooooooh carpal tunnel syndrome common issue as think my setup could be aggravating this as the issue presented overdoing an outdoor fitness class and weights. Great vids Guy's 👍

  • @Bigsbeee
    @Bigsbeee3 жыл бұрын

    Many banging on about James said he is 5'-10'' and rides a 53. Well as he has previously said many so called 53cm frames won't have a damn single tube that measures 53cm. I heard him also say if he was to purchase an off the shelf ..Specialized, Trek etc. he would opt for a small or 52 despite their fitting chart advising 54 even 56. I'm same height and inseam as James and rode far too big a frame in the 80's ..Cinelli 22-1/2'' Bugger all pillar showing. Gone smaller and smaller over the year's until my latest gravel bike a 2018 Diverge I choose a 52. Man it looks like a kid's bike un-built. But experimented with stem length, saddle height and gone down to 170 cranks, cleats slammed back, It just feels right. Can't thank these two guy's enough for their time and passion. I too will get to James next year despite thinking I'm pretty close already.

  • @rsucesso

    @rsucesso

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here. I am 180 cm riding a Diverge 54 with 120mm stem and 170mm cranks with cleats almost fully behind. My friends all insisted that I should get a 56 but I feel fine.

  • @Snicker60515
    @Snicker605152 жыл бұрын

    I know what direct to consumer brand he's talking about, hehehe. I wanna buy a bike from them and it seems too small, but measuring my current bike, and it's about bang on! Great video!

  • @jsasa5668
    @jsasa56682 жыл бұрын

    Hey Francis - very informative video... Questions: a fried of mine had a fit and the fitter recommended he go with a size 56 (he is your height) just because it has higher stack (but also longer reach). He rides a Tarmac 54 and looking to go into a Super6Evo size 56.... I am not sure I agree with the philosophy even though my friend trusts the fitter and already preordered the Evo... I reckon that if he is not as flexible to be on a race bike that going for a bigger size (56) just because of the stack, that he should look at an endurance bike geometry... What do you think?

  • @Aubreykun
    @Aubreykun3 жыл бұрын

    The acromion proccess measure is the last bit of bone before the meat of the deltoid, or a bit before that at the end of the clavicle ? I get either 37cm for the first or 32cm for the latter. And how does this apply to MTB/flat/riser bars?

  • @TheNeelonRokk
    @TheNeelonRokk2 жыл бұрын

    I like how Francis makes a "shameless plug" to his own channel, in a video on his own channel. Also, I am about to get a bikefit scheduled. It's a shame James is so far away from me (I reside in the Netherlands), otherwise it would have been a no-brainer for me.

  • @paulfitness5157
    @paulfitness51573 жыл бұрын

    Yeh Im 6ft and nearly went with a bike that I really felt was too big, my feet couldn't reach ground and it was medium and saddle wasn't even raised. Buying one today but will just go with my gut and feel