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@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!!

THIS is the kind of information the industry should have been doing since, well, the beginning of 4K. Thank you for your service, Jeff.

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

I agree! It was a big time failure on the consumer education side

The sharpness is definitely the most talked about aspect of 4k, but the color is just as important.

@djdepression

Ай бұрын

Colors just look better in HDR and Dolby Vision.

We upgrade DVDs to 4k if available. It has to be a really favorite movie to move to 4k from Blu-ray. If available on 4k all new are purchased that way.

@kadenprows8079

Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@timramich

Ай бұрын

I only upgrade to 4k if they come with director or unrated cuts. I can't stand when they stick with theatrical cuts and refuse to even do seamless branching with a menu option, just because seeing that option actually makes film purists upset. I don't go to movie theaters, so I don't care about watching what version was shown to me then and there for some sort of memory connection of having gone to see it. I want what version the director wanted to make but weren't allowed to show.

@bradavon

Ай бұрын

That can be a waste of money. 4K isn't always much of an upgrade over Blu-ray but is always 2-3 times more expensive.

@robertt9342

Ай бұрын

@@bradavon. He literally prefaced the situations where he would upgrade, and it's limited and not unreasonable.

@hoohaa1

Ай бұрын

I tend to do this as well. A while back I needed to downsize so donated few hundred DVDs and now find there's certain films not seen in a while and they come out on 4k, but they have to be all time classics to spend the kind of price charged. I've a pretty big bluray collection and other than maybe stuff I'd consider top 10, I don't do a 4k rebuy. Mainly cos I most like upgraded from DVD to blu! I have two 55inch TVs now - one Sony LED and one newest Samsung OLED, and honestly I wonder at that size do I even get the benefit of 4K. Hard to know. What I will say is the sound is unbelievable on 4K through my old 5.1 set up with really big old Jami speakers and a receiver. I've noticed on the Samsung OLED that Disney plus looks dark as hell so that's been annoying, but the discs shine. Tho funnily I've been watching some old DVDs on the Sony (presumably upscaled by the PS5) and they look great. Like old movies from the 40s etc. So who knows. A lot of it is genuinely FOMO, but if it makes you happy then worse things you could spend money on.

It is also important to remember that a film being on a 4K disc does NOT *automatically* ALWAYS make it super sharp or even necessarily better-looking than the Blu Ray. It also depends on the quality of the TRANSFER that was put onto the 4K disc. A notorious example is Terminator 2 4K. The transfer on the 4K disc is so DNR'd and smoothed over that many people feel that the older Blu Ray actually looks SHARPER and better because the quality of the 4K transfer is so poor! That's why things like reviews and screenshots and such of 4K discs can be helpful in determining if that particular 4K disc is likely to look significantly better than the Blu Ray or not before making the purchase.

@steved5880

Ай бұрын

That’s literally like the only example of a Blu looking better than the 4K. And screenshots are actually a very poor comparison btwn Blu and 4k because the biggest upgrade is the effect HDR has on dynamic range and color grade - both of which we absolutely cannot see on our little SDR iPhones and hyper compressed SDR KZread videos.

@SamLovesMovies25

Ай бұрын

@@steved5880 Yeah of course you won't be able to see HDR properly from screenshots, but it gives SOME sort of an idea about the product before purchasing

HD blu-rays don't have HDR because it wasn't a protocol when blu-ray was being developed. Consumer HD was also SDR because TV contrast ranges were 8bit, and the video is encoded in a less efficient video codec (that takes up more of the disc compared to UHD). There were movie studios editing 2K digital intermediates in HDR spaces (as digital cameras can record RAW video in spaces that exceed current consumer HDR). This can be important for editing contrast ranges in the video. 4K UHD discs also needed a new video codec because the master file size is much larger, so there has to be more file compression for a UHD blu-ray. 4K is 4x the resolution, but a tonal range that changes from 8bit 256 shades of tone to 10bit 1024 shades (not just providing brighter highlights or darker shadows, but smoother gradients). Perceptual detail of video isn't just resolution: it's resolution, contrast range, and lens focus (and possible other optical characteristics). You will see new HD blu-rays have Dolby Atmos tracks (which weren't originally part of HD video protocols), as many new movies are mastered in it and older blu-ray players will see the track as True-HD 7.1. I had a pretty nice Panasonic plasma TV and 7.1 HDMI speaker system when I was collecting blu-rays. To go to 4K, I invested in a nice OLED TV, upgraded my amplifier to decode Atmos/ DTS:X/Auro-3D, and got 4 height speakers. I believe HDR and 3D audio is the real advantage of 4K. I go to the cinema less often as I prefer my home audio, and I've calibrated Dolby Vision and HDR10 with my OLED.

@roba.8907

Ай бұрын

Thank you for writing this awesome post!

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

Most people in the UK have TVs that are 40-55". We just don't have living rooms that csn accommodate 70-80" and a too big TV makes a room oppressive. We didn't have the big screen culture until the 2000s like Americans have always had.

@DavidMander-rs4uk

Ай бұрын

The biggest TV i can fit is 43' and HD is just fine for me.

I don't yet have a 4K player, but I remember the days of Bluray + DVD combo packs, and how useful they were for future proofing my collection before I had a bluray player. So these days, if it's a movie that I know I will *one day* be glad to have in HDR 4K, I go for those combos. Anything by Chris Nolan, or George Miller will be worth it in the long run. And as per Jeff's advice, I also keep a lookout for 4K restorations of classics and B+W films, as they really benefit from the HDR.

Because 4K tends to be higher prices, I do extra research before purchasing them. The movie has to be REALLY GOOD, otherwise a Blu-Ray is fine. Funny enough, there are some 4K disks where I actually prefer the color grading on the Blu Ray instead! 😅

@pirtl_turtl

Ай бұрын

One way I've found that can help with the price is looking for the 4k disc on eBay. Some sellers will have the disc by itself (no case, no digital code) for much cheaper than buying it new. I've done that for some of my 1080p Blu-rays that I like but don't want to purchase all over again.

@SamLovesMovies25

Ай бұрын

@@pirtl_turtl That is what I do if I have, say, a steelbook that includes Blu ray but NO 4K. That is a cheaper way to get JUST the 4K disc, that I can swap into the steelbook without having to buy the whole 4K set.

@EcopiuM

Ай бұрын

Akira Blu-Ray is an example. I wouldn't say it's bad as some 4K's that are completely butchered but it's still enough where smoothing and new blue hue making the 4K look worse.

@gerardofollano8417

Ай бұрын

Depends what set up you have , I have 4k projector with a 120" screen and 4k blows bluray out of the water in all aspects, colors, details, black levels ect...

Your earlier video on this subject is the first video of yours I ever watched. This is a great update! Thank you for explaining things so well! Very useful.

Thank you Jeff. 🙏🏻

Jeff, this was extremely well done. Kept to basics, made it easy for everyone to understand, and helped people decide based on their choice not what people think they should do. Again, excellent video Jeff!

Thank you for this information. Very helpful 👍🏻

For me, 1080p Blu-ray, especially if you find a good used source, is the perfect mix of affordability and truly excellent picture and sound. I can get 4-5 standard Blu-rays for the price of one new 4k, and for the most part they still look and sound phenomenal on home theater equipment, with some even having Dolby Atmos, etc. I buy some iconic or legendary movies on 4k, but for me Blu-ray will likely satisfy my home theater needs forever.

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

With upscaling it’s not a bad idea. But when it’s a new 4K master of an older movie, that’s the biggest upgrade.

@bradavon

Ай бұрын

​@@JeffRauseoif it's a new Blu-ray release, the Blu-ray would get the same 4K master too though. Sure not as good but the most of the improvement is in the mastering.

@cp-ul4bz

8 күн бұрын

I feel the same way CT. I'm totally happy with bluray quality and I own 4ks aswell that I feel are worth it to me. blurays are still a great picture quality. Remastered ones are even better too

Great video! I've been upgrading my collection the past few years to 4K UHD and it's definitely worth it

Here's the dirty Little secret nobody's talking about.... HDR can be applied to 1080p Blu-ray discs but they don't do it... why not? A file like that upscaled on a 4K TV would come very close to Blu-ray 4K uhd.

@Reissuleipa

Ай бұрын

It's not as clearcut as this. Regular Blu-ray players can't do HDR. I'm not sure they can read triple layer discs either and that might be required because of the extra space the color information might require. So while techically doable it would just create too much confusion imo.

@dsr0116

Ай бұрын

@@Reissuleipa It’s not doable because HDR was not a consumer video standard when blu-ray was introduced. Older players can read triple layer discs (there are some HD blu-ray 75GB: for long movies with special features). The main reason new HD blu-rays can’t have HDR is that it’s a newer standard (encoded in a different format), that non UHD players can’t decode.

@gerardofollano8417

Ай бұрын

No way, its more than just HDR. I have same movies on both fomat, color palette, resolution ect.... totally different

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!!

I am much more selective in what I upgrade from Blu Ray to 4K. The cost, coupled with triple or even quadruple buying now (if you include VHS) on some films has me burned out. I really only will be upgrading a select amount of films. Having over 19K films now, my 4K collection is still relatively small at less than 300 of this 19K movies. Blu Ray is in it’s sweet spot for me. Cost, still looks great on all my TVs. And only do I really care about 4K for my projector theatre room. The really special movies to me are the ones I want 4K for. I simply only need it for certain films.

@theshaneakers

Ай бұрын

How, HOW….do you have 19,000 physical copies of something?

@bradavon

Ай бұрын

Yeah me too. I feel like a lot of 4K collectors only started in 2006 with Blu-ray. I've been at this since the 90s. 4ks are way too expensive. £6-7 Vs £20-25. That's a tonne more, especially for new Blu-rays that use the same Master as the 4K. Old 2006 era blu-rays different story.

@DangerousDevilOfficial

Ай бұрын

@@theshaneakers a LONG time collecting, buying many movies on sale or in bulk. And I own a pretty good sized home and my kids are now grown and gone. So just me. I just never sold films as I bought them. Eventually, I hope my collection will be an archive or something when I am gone or no longer collect, ect.. And it isn't only one title or a few titles of course. There are probably well over 100K films on DVD, Blu Ray and 4K by now. So plenty of different titles. Also, I have well over 2K video game titles for Sony Systems. Many of which are unopened. As well as an unopened boxed system of every Sony system released. Besides the original PlayStation. The video games are more for retirement investment, as I don't have complete collections for that. Mainly just a lot of rare titles. 🤷 I even still have my laserdisc collection of about 250-300 titles. And two working laserdisc players. I was always fascinated by physical media. And became even more so when I started releasing my own music and film projects. 🤷

@DangerousDevilOfficial

Ай бұрын

@@bradavon you nailed it. I am with you. I have been collecting since DVD very first dropped in North America. I even have some of the very old long DVD boxes you never see anymore. That were paper with Styrofoam in the bottom of the box. With CD cases inside with the movies. Have like three titles like that. Only the very early DVD films had those weird cases. 😳

@theshaneakers

Ай бұрын

@@DangerousDevilOfficial dude, that is sick! I collect physical media as well, but my collection has *nothing* on yours. That is insane!

0:16 I was super confused seeing the Dune Part Two covers and you saying “but it was years and years ago” 😂 great video though as always Jeff!! Always learning something new from you!

Great stuff as always mate! Concise, informative

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

Nice video, Enjoy your special Month Jeff.

Great stuff!

Even though you sold out, I still love your content, Jeff.

Thank you 🙏🏽 great explanation

Just asking because I see for your title image (I don’t know if I used the right word for it) was from your 4k review of the Sam raimi Spider-Man trilogy but are you looking forward to the Spider-Man 4 fan film by high mountain studios? Personally I think would’ve been cool to see the story more complete especially considering Spider-Man 3 left on a cliffhanger.

I already knew this Jeff, but thanks for the refresher course. 😁

The best video for just pure information about the formats that I've seen.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Excellent video Jeff. Thank you for making it simple to understand for the rest of us. I see in the comments alot of people are on the fence . Before I broke down and bought my first 4k tv, I started buying the Blu-ray/4 k combo packs knowing I was buying the 4k tv later but still got the Blu rays for now....yes it cost me more upfront, but when the TV arrived I had about 10 4ks already in these combo packs. Unrelated question....Would it be within your niche to do a video of why the movies are bombing this year vs last? Are we just broke? I thought Planet of the Apes and Mad Max would be killing it and they are like warm at best...I loved them both. Your thoughts please.

Since I had my 65-inch TV, I can tell a major difference with the two. Especially since I set the wide scree aspect ratio to an even wider setting to where it fills up most the screen. That was the key for me. It's beautiful.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

This is probably your best video. Not my favorite as a fan but very important. I hope this blows up

Good explanations for new collectors 😀

not sure if youve answered this somewhere, but what are your TV settings in terms of motion smoothing as it is driving me insane constantly changing the de-judder from 0-3 and not sure which is best or most similar to how it would look in the cinema. Also do you use filmmaker mode etc? thanks!

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

I use filmmaker mode most times. That eliminates most of the BS

@ivanbenisscott

Ай бұрын

@@JeffRauseo thanks for replying, so do you have completely no motion smoothing at all as there’s a lot of judder on my Samsung 65inch when filmmaker mode is on and has zero motion smoothing at all.

Love this sort of video. Even though I’ve been collecting 4K UHD for years, it’s still nice to hear.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

Not just data size but data rate in streaming. HDR colour can be great - but TV panels can also vary - some older ones are 8Bit or 8bit +2 With newer panels 10bit colour ie. they better able to display that 'true' colour range & colour volume. But I think your point about viewing distance is often overlooked. For my 55in UHD 4K OLED TV I sit just 6 to 7 feet away. UK home hav (in general) smaller TVs but in smaller living rooms

Keep up the good work Jeff

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Thanks for the overview, Jeff. I purchased a 4K player a while back but only had a 55" Sony screen. I didn't notice a lot of visual difference between the 4K and 1080p discs. What I did notice was that the sound came through with much more force over my modest Atmos surround system. I thought it was a 4K feature but, as you point out, I guess it has more to do with file size. I guess there are 1080p discs out there, too, with robust sound? Unfortunately, I had to move and don't have my systems anymore to conduct further tests. Doh!

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Very interesting video !

Thanks

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Watching this for the 4k vs 1080p info. Was not expecting a pic of the Samuel Beckett bridge here in Dublin to pop up on my screen (1m 09secs) 😂😂

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Recently start collecting 4K horror movies. This was very informative and gave me a better understanding of it. Also, random Samuel Beckett bridge in Dublin jumpscare had me laughing hard😂😂 I can see it out my apartment window

Dont forget Dynamic range for brightness, outside of the larger range of colours the increased range of brightness makes a huge difference to movies when they are graded with the high range. good refresher video.

Great video!

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv !

Hey Jeff, good refresher thanks ! I recall way back when you discussed if 8K would obsolete 4K and if it would ever be a worthwhile investment. How much more do we movie fans want to spend for a “better” viewing experience ? When is good, good enough ? I’m standing pat at 4K, this is my “good enough”.

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

4K is good enough. 8K is a gimmick unless you’ve got a 300” screen, and even then, 99.9% of your content would be upscaled

I can easily tell the difference on my 55 inch LG C1. Also a lot of blu ray transfers were poor and when reissued in 4K now have good transfers.

I tried an experiment yesterday with dvd, Blu ray and 4K of the same film on my 4K tv through Xbox Series X. The dvd was ok, the Blu ray a massive improvement, but the 4K didn’t end up looking massively better than the Blu ray. As my TV is 42’’ this seemed to confirm that to get a serious improvement in picture quality (akin to what I saw was the difference between dvd and Blu ray) a much larger tv must be needed. For my set up 4K was not a significant leap enough to justify the extra cost. After that just for a laugh I played the same film side by side on the 4K tv with the UHD disc and the older DVD through my 28’’ widescreen CRT I use for retro games. Obviously the 4K was the better picture but it was extremely surprising to see just how good the image of the DVD was on the CRT side by side. Clearly DVDs, whilst they don’t look brilliant blown up and upscaled on a modern screen, just like many retro consoles with the correct cables, they can look fantastic on a screen they were originally designed for.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

I have a 42'' 4K Toshiba tv, which I mainly bought for my Xbox Series X. I still use a lot of DVDs (which upscale surprisingly well) and Blu Rays are reserved for my favourites now that prices are so low that double dipping is pretty cheap). I only own 2 4K discs (one was accidentally included with a Blu day the other was a bargain find of Alien sealed in a charity shop for £5. It just so happens to be my favourite film and one of the few I would triple dip on!) That said, from a gaming point of view the colour difference between 1080p and 4K is impressive. Considering that the furthest I can actually sit from the screen is maybe 7 to 8 feet it seems that there isn't much point getting a much bigger screen, as it seems 4K wouldn't be a massive improvement over 1080p on anything g less than a 55'' screen.

Thanks Jeff for the info. I've recently gone down the rabbit hole of using RTX HDR upscaling on my HTPC (Home Theater PC) for below 4K content and the results have been amazing. Nvidia is utilizing the tech in their new Geforce RTX graphics cards to AI enhance video (and games) on the fly. On casually viewing comparing native 4K HDR with RTX HDR upscaled 1080p content on a 65 inch HDR TV is nearly unnoticeable. However, native 4K HDR is better as the color grading is (theoretically) being performed by a human with artistic(?) intent. It works with streaming, digital downloads, and (with all those PC hoop jumping prerequisites) blu-ray/DVD. Linus Tech Tips did a dive video into this a few months ago when the Nvidia driver updates dropped.

Nice video. There needs to be more educational videos out there for new collectors. They exist.

Thank you for explaining the difference, I just upgraded true lies from dvd and The dark Knight from blu ray.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Can you do a comparison of the True Lies 4K and Blu-ray that's in the same box please. The Blu-ray was from a different 2K master and apparently isn't DNRed anywhere near as much.

Do you to do anything to different, like a setting or anything, for HDR on a 4K disc or does it automatically play when the disc is played? I have heard of discs with both HDR and Dolby Vision so how does the player know which to play?

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

Even though I buy 4K movies for certain blockbusters, I still prefer 1080p blu rays for lot of older movies since there’s not much of a difference in quality for smaller TVs. It’s all about the home theater setup and the kind of movies that were mastered on the format.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

@Markimark151

Ай бұрын

@@Warning-34079 I have both formats, also stop trashing cutting edge technology.

One point that I think needs to be touched on is the type of displays people are watching 4k content on. A lot of people have edge lit 4k panels which don’t do much justice to HDR content. I feel at a minimum a full array local dimming display is needed to get the benefit of 4k HDR content.

Stupid question why are some new blu-ray say from a 4k scan and put on a 4k disc I've noticed that second sight and arrow video etc really look good on blu-ray

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Could you do a video on 2k and 4k native images and transfers?

Don't forget the Atmos mixes which can make a really big difference if you have the proper home theatre setup.

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

That’s not 4K specific though

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Dang, was really hoping you would give us some side by side comparisons like the thumbnail implies. What do I have to do to get that video to happen??? 😁

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

I do these in a ton of review videos. But to be honest I stopped because KZread compression makes the comparisons pretty worthless most times

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

I've only got a 43" LED TV and sit around 3ft away so picture isn't actually primary for me. Larger sets of 55" and greater especially ULED are not in my likely or foreseeable future. So for me it's more about Atmos. I've got a soundbar and surrounds which does a job for now and which I'm more likely to upgrade to separates before a TV. I've bought a bunch of 1080p Blu-rays recently that have Atmos, some second hand. I'm mostly upgrading DVD to 4K. The one annoyance is that Atmos is only available on 4K in many circumstances so that means some Blu-ray I may need to upgrade.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

For the same content, will a 4k disc look better on a 1080P tv (for example on an older plasma) than the blu-ray?

@StupidPhysics58

Ай бұрын

As far as I know, it won't benefit you in any way. To be worth the upgrade you'll need that 4k TV. Also you have to make sure you have a player that is capable of reading the 4k Discs, otherwise you'll be out of luck (unless the version you buy comes with a Blu-ray version)

@JohnGaltfromAtlas

Ай бұрын

@@StupidPhysics58 I assumed an older TV could still take advantage of any color timing updates, and updated scans (but certainly not any DNR the studios illogically seem to think is useful) of the original content and therefore might look better.....(?). I've never seen this topic addressed, so I thought I'd ask.

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

Have you tried it? I think it could show a remastered scan and partial color changes (in SDR) but it would all be downscaled and potentially messy because of that down conversion. I’ve never tried it though. Interesting topic.

@timramich

Ай бұрын

Slightly. If the signal is in 4:4:4 then you're going to have a 1080p 4:4:4 picture instead of a 1080p 4:2:0 picture.

Another thing to consider is that streaming services have mostly started requiring their highest priced tier I order to get their 4K, Dolby Vision, or Dolby Atmos content. So is someone doesn’t want to pay the most for a streaming service then 4K content probably isn’t for them (for streaming, at least).

Going back to data sizing on 4K discs...it is a concern when you have a much earlier 4K player. I purchased mine in 2018 and when the file sizes reach about 66 - 100 GB, then the disc would skip and cause frame glitching. It's changed now with updated players but in case anyone else has that issue with their earlier players, that's the cause of that.

HDR also allows for improved brightness and contrast, with brighter whites and darker blacks. But this is quite dependant on your display quality. OLEDs will have the best contrast and color reproduction, but they aren't necessarily the brightest.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

So just to add my 2 cents. I have a 50in plasma with a 4k player that downscales it to 1080p. Even though I don't get HDR the remastered 4k look great of older movies. I can also notice a difference in newer movies to. I compared Sonic 2 with the blu-ray vs the 4k and the 4k was better but not by a a lot being as its a newer movie. The color looked better on Sonic and other detail to. Also Just got in my Rango 4k steel book and watched it. Looked great. Even though Rango CGI was always amazing for its time and still is now.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv is better

I have a 120" 4k projector and I'm 10 feet away and 4k quality is amazing!

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

The term high dynamic range means there is a large amount of variation in light levels within a scene or an image. The dynamic range refers to the range of luminosity between the brightest area and the darkest area of that scene or image. Expanded color space is part of that, but we have to remember that HDR improves the visible space between shadows and intense bright objects, giving far more detail and depth to an image. Look at Game of Thrones as a perfect example. HDR grading and the increased bit rate made episodes actually watchable, whereas compressed or other formats like Bluray did not. Remember first generation 4K panels didn't have HDR capabilities at all, which I'm sure glad they added that function sooner than later.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

When you put 4k screens and bluray screens together then yeah, you can notice a difference. But can anyone honestly say they've ever put a bluray on and thought this looks terrible because to me they look great. Comparison screens can be misleading and your right, lots of different factors come into it

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Well I paid over 7 grand for a 4k oled and a full Dolby sound system. That's why I get the uhd blurays to look good on my G3 77

My 4K 43 inch TV is 30 inches away from me. lol. Pretty good at this distance.

@chrisvillan88

Ай бұрын

I also have 43inch 4K display and I sit roughly that same distance. Looks good to me

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

@CameronKiesser

28 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 Ew

@Warning-34079

28 күн бұрын

@@CameronKiesser no 1080p is better

@CameronKiesser

27 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 Delusional. lol. Give it up.

I feel the quality of your 4K TV also plays a big factor into if you can see a big difference with 4K content. I currently have a very cheap 50 inch Samsung 4K tv in my bedroom and hdr content is horrible due to not having enough nits to display hdr properly, so I really only notice a sharpness difference at this point. That’s why later this year I plan on upgrading to a 55 inch Oled TV.

@yousellouts

Ай бұрын

I would recommend going 65" providing it fits comfortably in the room and you have the appropriate viewing angle and distance. I have a 55" Sony OLED which is a great TV and a great size for my room but I only got it because it's the maximum size that would fit in my room. 65" (and onwards) is more of an ideal cinematic size whereas 55" is more "good enough" if that makes sense. When it comes to 4K TVs, particularly higher end displays like OLED bigger is better.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

@@yousellouts sony oled is trash sony sdr 1080p tv is better

I have a 8k TV. N I have watch alot of 4k movies on it n just recently started watching blue rays on my 8k tv n blue rays looks mind blowing on a 8k TV. My 4k player add hdr to all blue rays. 8k upscaling looks pretty impressive.

4K is best viewed on a huge screen about 4 feet away. IMO. You really pick up the detail more.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv !

For me the 4K discs offer the best sound options i.e Atmos etc. If you don't have an Atmos or similiar setup you're not going to be that put out with blu ray, unless you're a purist, most ain't. I bought the Diamond version blu ray version of Gravity that had the Atmos sound over the 4k that didn't. Think they now have a 4k with Atmos, don't know as i am happy with the blu ray.

Wide Colour Gamut increases the gamut and number of distinct colors available. HDR then increases the range of luminance available for each color.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

I don't notice 4K quality on my tv eventhough it's 4K compatible. Watching Top Gun Maverick 4K paled in comparison to seeing it in IMAX.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

4K really isn't needed for most people based on their viewing distance and size of TV. It's really the HDR and black levels with Oled and similar tech, etc. that are pretty much exclusive to 4K tvs that really matter. Other than say if you have an old plasma tv that had better blacks.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

It’ll be nice to see a video on a good 4k player to get.

What going happen after 4k?

@DangerousDevilOfficial

Ай бұрын

4K disc for home video is very likely the LAST home video format. As sad as that is, it is where we are. The market is just too small and split to make and sense financially for studios to give us consumer 8K discs. My understanding is there is already 8K and even potentially 16K discs. But for archival type stuff for studios and companies. Things we will never see as consumers unfortunately. It is the same as 8K and 16K TVs. We already see them available. In fact 8K TVs have been for some time. But I don't see any need for them, literally for a decade or more right now. For multiple reasons. As someone who works in film, there is already available 6K, 8K and I hear even 16K cameras. Costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. But again, these are for things like huge Hollywood companies. Plus, on small TVs, we won't even be able to see things like 8K or 16k. The pixels at that point are too small unless you have a massive screen. I have a true 4K projector. And besides the HDR support, I wasn't that impressed by the difference between my 1080p projector and 4K. Even on like an 8-10 foot screen. It just doesn't make sense at home for these crazy resolutions. 🤷

The main difference is that the 4K Blu-ray format is only available in flat 2D rather than stereoscopic 3D

@ricahrdb

Ай бұрын

This is one of the things that is holding me back from Investing in a UHD tv. My 1080p tv still has great picture quality and it does do 3D.

How does that video from 3 years ago have a thumbnail with the dune part two artwork? 🧐

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

Well I change thumbnails from time to time as I update things

@HeroinBob91

Ай бұрын

@@JeffRauseo makes sense!

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

All I want is a “Good Transferred”. Is that difficult to ask?

Sitting 1m (4 feet) from a 40" TV is surely bad for your eyes 😧. 1.2 metres is nothing. I'm currently using a 43" TV and am about 2m away. Which this chart says is for 55-65" TVs. I'm definitely questioning the accuracy of this chat.

@ss4vegita

Ай бұрын

That tv size to distance chart has always been inaccurate to me personally.

@TheCosmicFool

Ай бұрын

I have a 42’’ or 43’’ tv and sit 6 feet away (which is the furthest I can in my games room). I measured out how big a 55-65’’ tv would look on the same wall and it would be far too big at that distance. According to the chart I should be sitting 4 feet from my current tv. I can’t see how that would be comfortable…

I think you need to do a video of the 4ks that have so far not been worth the upgrade when compared to the blu ray. 😏

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!

I wonder why you didn't talk about dolby atmos?

@Scifi4life

Ай бұрын

That's sound. He wanted to talk about visual.

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

Atmos doesn’t have anything to do with 4K or 1080p. Sound is totally separate from video, and it’s not a benefit of 4K because it’s also available on a ton of 1080p content.

It depend what tv brand u have

Dolby vision, dtm, fald (tv)

I’m slowly replacing all my DVDs to Blu Ray. If the movie is really good, I’ll upgrade to 4K. However not all 4K upgrades are great. The Arrow Weird Science has an awful transfer. The Arrow Blu ray was actually better.

Internet speed is one aspect for streaming but the bigger issue is most people stream using wireless and the quality of their wireless access solution/config lets them down.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

The way HDR is marketed right now is so frustrating. It's technically possible to produce a HDR display with a resolution that is less than 4k but they are using it as an additional selling point. Even watching videos on KZread with HDR you'll notice they will still display down to 144p with HDR.

Isn’t HDR for black and white, and wide color gamut for color?

@cheekster777

Ай бұрын

HDR includes wide colour gamut and can be applied to colour and also black & white.

@alexdas2000

Ай бұрын

@@cheekster777 I just found this, “Wide color gamut, or WCG, is often lumped in with HDR. While they're often found together, they're not intrinsically linked. Where HDR is an increase in the dynamic range of the picture (with brighter highlights in particular), WCG is an increase in color: "Redder" reds, "greener" greens, "bluer" blues and more. Both provide more of an impact on-screen than the resolution increase from high-def to 4K, but in different ways.”

@timramich

Ай бұрын

10 bits is the wider gamut. HDR is about brighter things. Figure 255:255:255 is white. HDR can go above 255 to add luminance. And it can do it on all 3 color channels. Only downside is that you lose fidelity in the color gamut, and you're back to dealing with banding issues. They should have made 12 bits mandatory for HDR. Most films really should be sticking with SDR to get a better color instead of going with HDR for the marketing nonsense. Tell me why something like It's a Wonderful Life needs to be in HDR.

The only time audio factors into the difference between 4K and 1080p is discs from Disney and Sony. Disney and Sony reserve Dolby Atmos for 4K discs only. Why I don't know...

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

Just business decisions. It still has nothing to do with the format.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Background is in focus instead of face.

I heard that Jurassic Park wasn't a "real" 4K release. What do they mean? Thanks!

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im not sure 4K's will ever go cheap enough like used DVDs & Blu-ray can be found for now. It seems 4K will be the last physical media made for home viewing with the ever increasing subscriptions to Netflix, Prime, Disney etc for that reason alone its worth holding onto as many of the popular 4K'S.

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Good video, but the thumbnail implied there would be examples.

on a 42” or smaller screen, not much

Why do we say 1080p for hd which is the vertical pixels but when referung to UHD we use the horizontal pixels..... shouldn't we compare the vertical pixels....? So 4k is only twice the amount?? Correct me if im wrong. Im confused 😂

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!

Have you watched any videos from QUANTUM TV or other enthusiasts who don't like HDR all that much?

IS VHS 4K?

HDR is the real difference. But overall regular blu rays are still good enough for 2024 viewing

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

Hdr 4k is crap and garbage Sdr 1080p is better

Most of you folks haven't seen a 4k Disc on a projector screen. Any sizes of 120" and up bring such an amazing upgrade in picture quality...it's just "wow". If you use a projector you really MUST use 4k

@JeffRauseo

Ай бұрын

I agree 100%. Anything over 85” demands 4K. That’s why it’s so sad that a lot of theaters still only have 2K projectors.

@stephendumortier

28 күн бұрын

​@@JeffRauseowrong. Seating distance is key. Even on a 85" screen a dvd can look as sharp as a 4k depending on your seating distance...

If we are being honest, there’s very little difference with 4k sharpness and blu ray…as for one Marvel movies are rendered down to 2k due to the special effects and screened on larege cinema screens…what you are buying is colour grading on 4k discs, colours have been enhanced to look more vibrant but (most of the time) are not how the original film look upon its release

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv !

@MrScottpc100

Ай бұрын

Yes you need to have a 4K TV or projector if playing 4K discs

@Warning-34079

Ай бұрын

@@MrScottpc100 no 1080p tv or 1080p projector on 1080p blu-ray discs is better then 4k tv and 4k projector dude.

@MrScottpc100

Ай бұрын

I never said it wasn’t better, Im just saying you’re being sold a marketing Con job