Kudos to Chase for knowing how much to talk when Buffalo be talkin ;)

Side charger looks interesting ! Thanks Buffalo ! ✝️

@chrissewell1608

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. I want one of those, but was hoping they would have an optional BCG with a nickel boron coating. I think its just a black phosphate coating?

Thanks Buffalo. Bought the 16” from BCA just need to assemble the lower now. Thanks again

Good video men. Helped me out a lot, thanks!

Thanks gents....enjoyed the afterglow paint shooting as much as anything.

I've got a couple BCA uppers. The 18" .450 and 20" AR-10 upper in .243 Winchester. Love them both. I've yet to have any issues with either. I have close to 400 rounds through my .243, and about 300 out of my .450. Very accurate and reliable to this point, be it on the range or in the field. For some high value goodness check them out.

Congrats on 70k subs, you should have so many more with this content, looked like a whole lotta fun👍🇦🇺

Some great results for a big heavy bullet. I pick up a 16 inch heavy barrel in 300blk and its a take driver

I wanted the BCA side charging .458 Socom or .50 Cal. But that .450 Bushmaster looks like its a hard hitting, beast too! I like your simple and easy testing methods! That's all, most of us need.

Thanks Buffalo for this video. You helped me make up my mind. It’s going to be Bear Creek with 18” barrel.

That .450 Bushy packs a punch on both ends. :D

Checking velocities was a necessity, but I knew it wouldn’t be long before y’all were blowin stuff up😁 Seriously thinking about skipping the 300BO or 7.62x39 and just going straight from 5.56 to .450 Bush and the side charger looks really sweet!!!

Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

Its an additional 200+ foot pounds of energy from that 100 fps boost.

Thank you guys!!!

Great videos. Watched parts 1-3 from when you first took that upper out of the box. Been collecting parts to build an AR 450 and debating on what upper/barrel to get. Going to see if that one is still available and if not see what is closest to it on BCA's site.

That is what ya some serious fire power. Nice one Buffalo....

Less difference than I thought it would be. Good info thanks guys!

100 fps. in just the last two inches of barrel, didn't expect that much difference. That 100 fps. with that big bullet amounts to a pretty good amount of thump down range. I guess those heavy rounds need all the push they can get. Good info, thanks for the video.

This is going to be real good, well that was interesting 100 feet a second that’s actually a lot, I wander want a 20 inch barrel would do

@davidsauced6374

3 жыл бұрын

I own a 20in. I would've to know my avg fps and flb energy im getting

@jmart0189

3 жыл бұрын

I chrono'd both Hornady and Winchester (both 250gr listed @2200fps) out of my 20" upper during a couple trips to the range. The Hornady Custom was 2331fps at 80°F, and dropped to 2302fps at 55°. The Winchester Deer Season XP was 2322 and 2290fps at those same temperatures, respectively. Both loads were tested during a single trip for each separate temperature, which came from a weather app, not an instrument reading.

Great information. Thank you

My 18” is a fantastic shooter. Did have a low gas issue to start though. Fixed and fantastic now

Thanks for the comparison ...

Thanks for the video.

I wouldn't have thought it wouldn't have been that much either. Nice vid👍

Great channel..if iam researching something for purchase i definitely look here

Great video

Thank you!

That was awesome thank you

Two nice guns there boys. Buffalo is always on the edge. 16 and 18 inch barrels you wouldnt think would make over 100 feet difference in speed. Live n learn boys. Thanks guys

Fun video and great chrono data. I'll take any data I can get. It may not match my results , but it will always calculate into real world use.

Congrats on the new rifle for deer season Chase! Buffalo, I just noticed you have over 70k subs and wanted to congratulate you on that also!! I kinda want a side charging 450 BM for deer & hog huntin...🤔😜Thanks brother, Stay safe & God bless👍🙏🇺🇸✌

Remarkably consistent ammo, round to round. A little more difference between the lengths than I was expecting. Be interesting to repeat the test in a years time to see if the difference holds over time.

Good velocity on a big round!

Well done Buffalo

I'll have to try that the next time I need to repaint my targets and backstop

Can the side charger be used on left side? I love my BCA upper. Thinking about another.

Great video, should have toss in a accuracy test too at different distances , just to see if 2” would make any difference

Close enough for me Buffalo!

I was asked why I wanted a 20” over a 16 “ when I got into 450s , to get the most out of it was my answer. Then I got a 16” bolt for the hell of it and wouldn’t part with either ! 😎

I found with my .308 AR-10s with barrels from 16 to 24 inches that there was about 100 fps difference per 4 inches of length.

I love my Bear Creek Arsenal! It appears their firearms doubled in price since last year too. Good thing I got mine for less than $900!

@ManetInAEternum

3 жыл бұрын

I picked mine up roughly a few months after Buffalo got his and I paid with shipping around 300ish give or take $20 off the top of my head. I absolutely love my beast. My go to for home defense.

@xion1021

2 жыл бұрын

I built one for the 2021 hunting season here in Michigan. Only cost about 750 with a cheap scope. No issues with bear Creek. Feeds and fires great

@223savvage

Жыл бұрын

Just put together a BCA upper and PSA lower, it was only about $470 and has been FLAWLESS with the few shots i have put through it ( about 80 ).

Thought for sure it would have been less than 50 fps... Surprising!

Good shooting fun amongst friends....Good stuff....

How does the Lancer 20rd mag do with a tromix lead handle 450 bushmaster

I’ve got the 16” side charging upper… seems to have trouble cycling… what buffer setups are you using?????

I wish that a 20 inch barrel of the 450 Bushmaster was included in this video.

The .450 is a great cartridge within the limits of the AR platform for short to medium range hunting for deer/bear/hogs etc. I would rate it far above the .350 Legend, which is nothing more than a slightly juiced up 113 year old .351 WSL. (the .351 will certainly kill the same game, the bullets won't bounce off!) Within that range of game and typical distance, the difference of 100 fps +/- will make no difference any hog/deer/bear could report. Anyone trying to make much of it would be splitting some very fine hairs. The barrel length and overall handling of the gun would be the deciding factors for me. Choose which one meets your hunting needs best. That said, all variables aside, the optimum barrel length for the .450 is obviously greater than 18". Don't imagine that a 24" barrel will give 300 fps more than a 18" barrel...but it WILL ruin the rifle for carrying in heavy brush. And that IS what the rifle excels at. When I bought "first" centerfire rifles for my sons, I went with the Ruger Model 77 International with 18.5" barrel. Beautiful rifles and very easy handling and accurate. One of them is a .243, the other a .250 Savage (and NO, I do not favor the son I gave the better .250 Savage rifle to!) It just happened the gun shop had two in stock, one in each caliber. The 18.5" barrels do not produce anywhere near the "factory" velocity ballistics for those two cartridges, but for nearly 40 years now, both those rifles have killed a lot of deer/hogs and none of the deer and hogs noticed the difference. And yes, both those cartridges with good quality 100 gr. bullets are deer killing machines! Just a shout out to BCA...they make great products. I have three of their uppers and they all perform very well at the range!

As a general rule, in my understanding, with rifles there is approximately 50 fps difference per barrel inch.

@MrJtin69

Жыл бұрын

Depending the caliber but yes good start is 50 fps minimum upwards of 100 fps

Hey Chase...BLUE Loctite that side charging handle in before long if you haven’t yet done it👍😊👍😊 BCA has always been 100% if set up properly!

@nataliedeyton6829

4 жыл бұрын

Bisley Blackhawk YES !!!!! Mine fell off yesterday 😡

@chrissewell1608

4 жыл бұрын

You might try a flat crush washer, or o-ring, if you don't want to lock-tite it?

The Midway Stoner brand is I believe made by BCA, my Midway USA 6.5 Grendel upper looks just like the BCA.

Can you all do an accuracy test on both barrels. Thanks

Were they both 1/24 twist?

My question is why were you using only 3 round mags? Is it a weight issue?

I wonder what kind of minute of hog accuracy there is between the 2 rifles. The 16 inch looks like the length I like best.

The CVA scout has a 25 inch barrel. Wonder what those velocities would be?

If you and your pal can get together in winter with no wind and fresh snow on ground, shoot a few rounds for one these rifles and "read" the snow for amount of unburned propellant. Repeat on fresh snow for other rifle. The 18" may not be as efficient. This is highly dependent upon the powder and chamber pressure.

What magazine are you using for this ? I'm having feed issues with mine

450 Bushmaster hmmmm. A friend of mine just got a Savage Haymaker WOW I did not think something so large would be so darn accurate. I think I would want the 18in barrel.

Hey buffalo did you sneak in a paul harrell reference in there lol?

What was the difference between the two with the Noise level....

I have the 18 BCA .450 also..... well made but they are hefty

Those last few shots were downright nasty ...in a good way. Man, those targets EXPLODED all over the range! Did you hand him a grass rake for clean up after that? :)

"He's DEAD, Jim!" (Star Trek humor.) Thank's for this useful test!......................elsullo

Those are some thumpers

Been wondering what the barrel differences would have on velocity. Amazing what an extra 2in can do;)

@gregphillips1998

4 жыл бұрын

That’s what my wife said. 😭

@chrissewell1608

4 жыл бұрын

You just left that open, for a world of jokes, heading your way! 🤣

@jhutch1470

Жыл бұрын

@@gregphillips1998 At least that's what she told me.

Just for giggles swap muzzle devices and see if there is a difference.

Sweet shooting I've been considering getting a CMMG 6.5 grendel, do you have any time with that particular caliber ?

@jerrynewman1380

4 жыл бұрын

It has a good twist rate which stabilizes the bullet well..all 6.5 rifles shoot very well and accurate...got my first 6.5 at 18 years old and I'm 67 now...shot many rounds with them at super long ranges.....I have also shot the 6.5 carcano which had plastic explosive for the propellent which is water proof and highly explosive... 6.5 is a Italian round that was designed to scare the enemy with it's muzzel flash...it is a fine round and also was used to kill president John Kennedy...

@jerrynewman1380

4 жыл бұрын

Info on the 6.5 below your comment

@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez

4 жыл бұрын

@@jerrynewman1380 very interesting I'm only 22 so I had no idea 6.5 had so much history.

@jerrynewman1380

4 жыл бұрын

@@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerezyes sir it has much history...it is a military round from way back in time.. it has stood the test of time and held it's own in computition and in the field and world of Hunting...it's a keeper for sure...any 6.5 is a highly accurate round...it will shoot with any modern day round in accuracy....their are many variations of the 6.5 and they all perform very well...I grew up on 6.5 and they are top of the line guns... If you get one do your self a favor and keep it...

@jerrynewman1380

4 жыл бұрын

@Russell Weber III yeah I've heard that before but you know that's what Americans have been told and mabey it's not the real truth...I was ten years old in 1963 but I remember the day he died in in Dallas Texas..I went to that place where he was shot at 35 years old and it was really a small place....I'm not really up on who killed him but if you know then please tell me so I can know the truth...I don't want to believe all my life that it was Oswald if it wasn't...the 6.5 carcano rifle became famous in America from that day that it happened and my daddy bought one for 20 dollars from k Mart and started shooting it when I was about 18 years old...

Did you tell your buddy to try super hard to look like a bad ass, or is he doing that on his own?

@regsparkes6507

4 жыл бұрын

I figured he was 'scared' of the camera. LOL

@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez

4 жыл бұрын

Like a deer in the headlights lol some people just aren't cut out for show biz

@johnraymond5817

3 жыл бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅😅

4:18 is this a ice can you splattering ???

Sorry, I was just wiping some drool off of my tablet from those rifles! .450 never really gets any recognition, which is beyond me. It’s a seriously B.A caliber, so everybody else’s loss!! Great video brother 👍🏽

@stanpotter7764

4 жыл бұрын

No recognition? Hmm, my youtube feed is full of 450 BM videos. If you ever watch WhoteeWho, he's a big fan and has multiple videos on it.

@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG

4 жыл бұрын

Let me correct that statement. No gun channels that *I* watch give the .450 any attention. Looks I'll have to check out his channel. Thanks for the heads up! 😁

@stanpotter7764

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG Yeah he does a lot of shooting comparisons where he'll shoot the same thing with several different calibers. I believe he had compared the 450 BM with the 350 Legend for instance. Yeah, check it out. 👍 Oh, btw it's actually Who_Tee_Who. Also Kentucky Ballistics is a great channel and he's featured the 450 a few times.

That must be a big round if only 3 fit in the mag, unless those are 3 round mags for hunting purposes

Those rounds do have quite bit of thump to them

It appears from this test that the ladies MIGHT be correct, length matters. 😉

@bryanrocker5033

4 жыл бұрын

Length matters in many places in life, however, its not how much junk you got but how well you use it when it comes to them ladies, just sayin

@YTsux24-7

4 жыл бұрын

Girth, it's all about girth! 😏👍

@metalmountainman3836

4 жыл бұрын

@@YTsux24-7 Indeed 😉

@johnraymond5817

3 жыл бұрын

These guys got lots of belt length 😅😅

Your Buddy what is his ar name

I don’t know the formula so how does that compute in energy?

@greybeard277

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know the formula either, but I found this: www.shooterscalculator.com/bullet-kinetic-energy.php

@stanpotter7764

4 жыл бұрын

2514 ft/lbs vs 2771 ft/lbs. To figure, just square the velocity in fps, take that number times the weight in grains, and divide all that by 450240. Or use an online calculator. :)

I'd like to have a 14.5 inch barrel pinned and weld to make 16 inch. Would be great for home defense

👍👍

I was out yesterday chronographing my 10.5" barrel, same Hornady ammo as you, and was hitting 2000 fps consistently.

@Caveman125

Жыл бұрын

That’s still pretty good 👍🏽

Yea, sadly 😳

My .450 has a 20 inch and have wandered what the extra couple inches would do. It’s freaking deviating on a whitetail deer 😳

@chrissewell1608

4 жыл бұрын

Is it to much for deer hunting? Do you do more damage, to good meat, than necessary?

@jerrynewman1380

4 жыл бұрын

That is not a deer round...it is designed for heavyweight hogs.bear,and larger elk,moose,or tactical use...but not deer...it's a bear stopper ..hog stopper or dangerous game protection....was never introduced for deer...no .45 caliber is meant for deer unless it's black powder... Don't do like I did...don't get into over kill..it ain't worth it...

@chrissewell1608

4 жыл бұрын

@@jerrynewman1380 Got ya! It'll drop a Velociraptor 🐊, and a giant boar 🐗! But just a tad too much for harvesting food! I wonder what it would do to a turkey? 🦃💥

And i have a 25 inch cva scout

Use the Hornady black and get so e more fps

Do you think 450 has to much recoil for a 12 year old kid?

Sorry, had to put you on "Pause" while I got my after dinner coffee. You may continue now........😂👍🏻👍🏻. 🇺🇸😎

The difference isn’t too important when you hit where your aim. I doubt the deer, pig or bear is going to be any deader when shot with either of those rifles.

Chase needs to move his bipod up to the very front of the free float tube for best stability..... anything less is a waste.

More important than a small amount of f.p.s.. is the twist in the barrel.... I've seen heavy caliber round exceeding 2400 f.p.s.that was accurate no more than 50 yards..it the twist rate that counts.. not the velocity...heavy lead needs the right twist....45:70 is accurate as can be at 1300 feet per second because of the rife barrel twist.....trust me

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Surprised by that difference. Both good hunters for is Southeasterners.

They are thumpers

Love BCA, that possibly would bother a hunter. But the 100 yards and under plinker I think it would not matter. But that's just me :-))_

@BadKarma.-

3 жыл бұрын

For the distance you should be shooting at deer with 450bm (300yd and under) the fps difference doesn't matter a whole lot besides a few inches of drop that a scope takes care of. So even us hunters dig the 16in

100 fps between the 2 barrels sounds a lot, but it's actually only 5.5 ft/lbs of muzzle energy difference

I’m a little bit of a gun nut but AR platforms annoy me. The originals, pure, simple, clean. The original original, beautiful and powerful. Colt, Brownell copy of originals, and maybe Beowulf, otherwise same same. Sorry kids.

Get rid of the stupid flash hider and lose like 2" of the barrel length.. that's what I did and just put a thread protector on.

I just took one for the team and watched a joe Biden presidential ad on your video. I hope that proves I appreciate your content. But now my eyes hurt, and I feel kinda dirty.

@jimyeats

4 жыл бұрын

Did you feel the soft caress of his lips touching the back of your neck?

@jeffkopher3468

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you survived...

@EC-mc7vg

4 жыл бұрын

I saw the ad starting so I saved myself the trouble, decided to just fondled and sniffed myself, now I feel dirty, but in a good way, lol.

Great video

great test, great info, thanks guys