I worked at Marlin in the Gallery proof testing and targeting for 4 to 5 years.I will take the 444 over the 45/70 all day long. The 45/70 had more muzzle rise. The .444 kicked harder but it was much easier to control and repeat.

@BennyBestt

2 жыл бұрын

.444 is a great calibre. A feral pigs nightmare

@janisjake5350

Жыл бұрын

Just get both

I was going to buy a 45-70 but I already had a .45 calibre in the 577/450. Farmer friend was selling his 1981 .444 Marlin (JM stamped) so I bought it and have been using Hornady 265gr pills in it. I absolutely love it. Great rifle and has flattened everything Ive shot with it.

@jimc710

3 жыл бұрын

JM stamp was me!

@chuckydubree1925

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations great gun to have had one years ago had some unexpected bill had to sell but I loved that gun 444 is a great round

@BigFred1925

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir 265 Hornady is an excellent round. I have a 444 stainless with gray laminated wood. Lots of deer in the freezer thanks to it.

This actually really answered all my questions in about 20 seconds, thanks

that 45-70 looks so good. wow!

The marlin looks amazing.

The 444 shoots harder and faster than the 45-70. The 444 can shoot up to 400 grain ammo, i like it better than a 45-70 riffle.

Two great rounds. I have both, load for both, and consider both very versatile performers.

why the loud annoying soundtrack? is this an action movie?

So nice rifle sounds thanx for share.

According to a video from Paul Harrell a while back, the 444 Marlin did not perform well when it first came out in the 1960's because the factory loaded ammo used the same bullets as the 44 Magnum, bullets that were designed to expand at revolver velocities but not at the much higher velocities that the 444 Marlin produced.

@Rumpole1000

4 жыл бұрын

Yep thats true. Today though manufactures such as Hornady and Speer are making purpose built pills for it. They are much better.

@bcpioneer59

Жыл бұрын

The gun always performed well, the BULLET choice was not top notch, but that was also 60 years ago, things change

.444 Marlin 👍👍👍

You can tell by recoil that is a pud-loaded .45-70. 300 gr at 1800 FPS isn’t anything lol.

@muffinxcancer

3 жыл бұрын

Haha true I load 325 at 2000 in my Henry.

@exothermal.sprocket

2 жыл бұрын

Leverguns50 ran a 45/90 loaded with 225 gr copper bullet at just over 3,000 fps. 4,500 ft-lb muzzle energy works pretty good.

The first gun I ever shot was a .444 marlin

Have a marlin 444 lever had for years got cva scout in same caliber for this years whitetail gun season

I question the load in the 45-70 that recoil resembled a dud

Actually they or wrong about the heaviest loads for a 45-70 garrett has .540gr and acme has .576gr.Also I bought them long before this video came out.

A 444 is impressive on whitetails. Any angle through the front half of a deer is drt.

@donaldfischer7873

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah, I bought a H&R Handi rifle in 444Marlin when Ohio went straight wall rifle cartridge, been knocking whitetails Down with it every season since, if I had to track the deer it was only 'cause it died outta eyesight, my rifle shoots the best grouping with Hornandy Superformance 265gr, what do you hunt with?

@JamesJones-cx5pk

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldfischer7873 Only Superformance for me as well. Mississippi also went to single shot straight walls for primitive season about 10 or 12 years ago. We have a 3 1/2 month deer season including bow/ primitive and rifle. It's about to be expanded to 4 months 😂

45-70 GOVT 👍👍👍👍

Bye the way try shooting/targeting 100 to 150 of each 4 days a week plus 30/30's 35rems 22 mags ohh and 10 gauge bolt action goose guns! Now wonder my shoulder still hurts. LOL

@chuckydubree1925

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but that's what we do keep shooting brother

Forgot the 405 Winchester

makes me wonder if i shoulder take my 45-70 out this year, or my other 45-70, or my 444 marlin, or my other 444 marlin...nah ill take out my marlin 375

I like 444

Wellllllll that was a waste of time! I thought it was going to be a comparison.🤔

For usual hunting range 45-70 is much better, the 11,63 diameter don't even need expension to knock down. With a first bad shot on running game you'll have the time to aim again. You also have much more choices to reload the 45-70 and with modern rifle, can be push to better balistics than 444 regards on the SAMMI (SAMII ?) limits. As a french i use CIP limits. Whatever, this is 50/50, you can't get wrong with both. It's up to you depending on the feelings.

Ok

You have to MUTE the fucking noise.

I've shot both back to back, and own a .444 Marlin, and I'd take the .45-70 any day. It kicks less, has a million more options on decent bullets and components are easier to find. The .444 up until '98 had a stupid slow 1:38 twist rate and is super finicky for accuracy. Also, there are only a handful of usable .44 jacketed bullets available. They are all meant for pistol velocities and simply blow to pieces at most rifle velocities. The .444 could have been great, but it wasn't.

You literally edited out the recoil

Deer hunting with this?? Do you want to gut and cook the deer at the same time?

Used to have a .444. Wasn’t impressed. 240 grain pistol bullets were stupid fired out of that gun. They were not strong enough for pigs. It only worked decently with 300 grain bullets, but it didn’t like my hand cast 300 grain WFN-had to use expensive Barnes bullets. With the cast bullets, it Acted like a sequentially fired scatter gun (micro-groove rifling perhaps?). It was much easier to hit a target at 150 yards with my .44 revolver than it was to hit with my .444 using the cast bullets. That’s sad. BTW, the revolver shot the hand cast 300 grainers better than it shot the expensive Barnes. Kept the revolver. Sold the .444.

@m2gjam139

4 жыл бұрын

Richard Kew. Sorry it didn't work out for you. I purchased my Marlin 444 lever and in 1991. I reload so I have 225gr. thru 300gr. Mostly 240 & 265gr. Anything I've shot with it dropped within 100 yards. Deer and Russian boar. It's still going strong. I just put a scope on it after years. I served thirty years in the United States Army almost twenty in the Ranger Regiment.I retired in 2010. I don't hunt anymore because of injuries sustained while in to don't like the blood sport anymore. But I'm pro hunting. I don't understand the argument that it is a pistol cartridge. They have pistols that shoot .50 caliber rounds. Or the LaMatt relover a shotgun with a 44 caliber revolver. The 444 is a pistol cartridge on steroids.

@m2gjam139

4 жыл бұрын

Also it's side by side with a 45/70. Higher muzzle velocity and 2400 fps. It's my only lever rifle. It's a keeper wouldn't change a thing or buy a 45/70 to similar.

@Rumpole1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@m2gjam139 Same here mate. I love my .444 Marlin. Its become my favourite rifle.

@omegaman6770

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely LOVE my Triple 4 ! I’ve had it since 1986 and although I have various other deer rifles I always make sure my 444 hits the woods each season ! I’ve dropped everything I’ve hit with it like the Hammer of Thor and thats just using the 240 gr. REM factory loads !

@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad you didn’t know enough about shooting cast from the 444, all 6 of our 444,s with MicroGroove rifling shoot incredible when the proper sized bullets are used. 280gr up to 350gr, extremely good accuracy!

Could do without the stupid music

how about dropping home invaders or looters?