44 Magnum 240gr Winchester Big Bore Ballistics Gel Ammo Test
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Let's do a ballistics gel test and review of the 44 Remington Magnum Winchester Big Bore 240 grain JHP fired from a Ruger 96/44 lever action chambered in 44 Remington Magnum with an 18 inch barrel.
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All shots are fired from a distance of 50 yards to encompass the majority of common real world hunting scenarios.
I will be shooting into 10% ballistics gel from www.clearballistics.com that has been calibrated to meet the FBI ballistics testing protocol.
While ballistics gel isn’t an exact proxy for big game, small game, predators or defensive situations, it does provide a repeatable medium through which to test various bullets and ammunitions against each other.
With each type of ammo tested I collect data on bullet penetration depth, bullet weight retention, bullet expansion and muzzle velocity.
For reference, bullet expansion is measured at the widest expanded point using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Caliper.
Bullet weight is measured using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Scale after having removed as much ballistics gel as possible from the expanded bullets.
Bullet velocity is measured using a ProChronoPal chronograph set approximately 7’ from the shooting bench.
I am fully aware that a chronograph measuring bullet velocity from 7’ away from the muzzle is going to register a slower velocity than if velocity were measured directly at the muzzle, but that difference is going to be so small as to be all but irrelevant in regards to comparison of actual measured velocity versus factory stated velocity.
My goal with these ballistics gel tests is to provide hunters like you and I with the most objective information possible to help us make the best choice for our particular hunting situation.
The results of these tests are my own and I cannot guarantee the same or similar performance on your part. The views and opinions expressed in this video are solely my own.
All videos are filmed in a safe and controlled environment on a private range with all applicable safety precautions by a trained professional.
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@dalebenson6859
Ай бұрын
This is misleading Bull shit that these are bear loads, yeah like black bear could be used on but Alaskan Coastal brown bears or Alaskan interior Grizzly someone would be a moron looking for get killed using any handgun or 44 to 45 cal pistol ammo on large & Dangerous bears. One of my clients killed an 8-foot interior Grizzly in 2005 then had with him a 44 mag handgun and Federal lead bullets with the writing in the box was BEAR LOAD, well we want to test that so called 44 mag Bear load on a bear so the client shot the bear carcass 5 times & 50 feet then we dug what was left of the lead bullets from the bear. Not one 44 mag lead bullet made it past the 8 to 10 inches of fat covering the body and some just pancaked on the ribs and others blow up into lead chunks! So, to make sure no one comes back then talk crap to me I can prove my guiding experiences through my AK guide photos I have on my Instagram account @ dwayneb1959 so to some ignorant smart asses don't even try talking BS to me where I've been there and done that! I even can come up with the photo of this interior Grizzly before skinning it with me holding up the bear's head.
We use to buy these 500-1000 bulk back in the day and loaded them all types of levels. They were good bullets for accuracy. Lotsa plinking. We did load these with a moderate load for youth deer hunting in a 44 rifle. Low recoil and very effective harvest under 50 yards for a couple deer. Your results look really good to me for deer, hogs, black bear.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Awesome
@lestergillis8171
Ай бұрын
Are either of those two made in 357?@@masonleather
Before anyone flips their sh1t, the barrel is 18.5” not 18”
@garytrainer1690
Ай бұрын
Lol! Gets tiresome sometimes don't it? 🤣👍👍
I am absolutely thrilled you did this video for the .44 Rem Mag. The higher velocities shows the bullets hold up quite well. I use the Sierra Sportman 240 grain JHP for reloading my .444 Marlin. The Sierra bullet while basically a pistol bullet appears to be tough enough to handle the higher velocities of the trip4. At least Sierra says their bullet is tougher than just a pistol bullet. I've not hunted with the Sierra loads in the .444 with a muzzle velocity of 2200 fps+, but have no doubt it would hold up on deer, hogs and bears. Bigger game such as elk and moose would require a heavier 265 grain bullet. However, the only 265 grain bullet I can find is the Hornady FTX that is loaded in their Leverevolution factory loads. The FTX bullets will not load in standard .444 brass. The ogive is forward towards the tip of the bullet requiring a shorter case so the round can chamber. Plus, I am not a fan of the Hornady FTX bullet. Your own tests showed how the bullet just doesn't hold up. There is too much case separation. Now, if Winchester would make the same load in a longer .444 Marlin case that would be just dandy. I do not care for the Remington .444 FN loading. Plus, at over $65+ for a box of 20, I'll keep reloading for my satisfaction. Thank you.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Glad to be of service! I wish the 444 were more popular
1.4x expansion seemed underwhelming until I remembered that a .429" bullet at 1.4x is still .6" which is 2x expansion of a 30 cal bullet. Thats more than enough expansion. Too much causes bullets to lose penetration.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Absolutely
I just really love that carbine rifle of yours. Ruger should keep more of their older models in production. Great video man, thanks 👍
I've actually chrono'd this stuff and compared it to the regular traditional Winchester White Box 240gr JSP and that stuff you got there hits harder than the regular white box but recoiled softer than the white box in my testing but this is out of a 4.25in S&W Model 69. I don't know how that it could, probably a powder difference but I love it. Average velocity out of my model 69 was 1308 FPS giving you 911 energy foot pounds of energy. In contrast the white box came out at 1244 FPS with 824 energy foot pounds.
If you havent done so already, i feel like no 44 mag carbine test is complete without the hornady loads. Both 225gr leverevolution, and especially the 240gr xtp. It was considered the go-to load before the latest craze from the straight-wall states.
@rynerenzaglia8006
Ай бұрын
From his instagram stories i believe he has it.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Lots coming
That federal hammer down stuff has some serious competition now
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Good to have a variety
Another great video, I really enjoy the way you do your videos, thanks
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
This stuff apeared to do great from a rifle but typically won’t expand in a 4.25” recolver
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Well that sucks
Loving the 44mag rifle tests. Hoping to see some 240grain xtp tests! I know the deer around here don't like em 😂
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Lots more coming 👍🏼 I use the 240gr XTP’s in my muzzleloader, roughly approximating what they’d do out of a 44 Mag rifle, a little weaker actually (it shoots best with 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 so not a full power charge), they run about 1,650 fps, got two deer back in January with them, did great 👍🏼
I have the deerfield so this video is awesome! thanks!
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Glad to be of service!
I'm still using win white box and magtech 240gr soft points for hunting. Its half the price or better and I'm pretty sure it's the product. Thks Mason. BTW my bullets on deer leave two gushing firehoses in deer. The buck I shot last year at a 100yds had gushers out both sides as he ran. Had a 4" hole on the exit side. Incredible performance out of my rem 788. .7MOA.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
I like the 240gr White Box load
Just made some .44 Mag Oregon Trail 310gn hardcast WNFPGC, 17gn Accurate #9, SRH 7.5" WLP Primer 1255 fps. Functioned 👍
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Sweet
Very interesting 🤔
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Indeed
That's a nice lil riffle
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
I like it
Nice gun!
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
💯
I bought two boxes of this stuff in 357 magnum last month for my Ruger GP100 6" stainless & I don't think 357 magnum is adequate for bear protection but I bought them anyway. I was getting higher than advertised velocity for deer hunting I think it would work.
Good rounds
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Absolutely
Those had more penetration than my 444 marlin. 240gr corelokt were stuck under far hide on spike elk at 70yds. Big mushroom with curved wound path. Havn't hit one yet with Hornady's new 265gr load
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Keep in mind penetration in two different mediums isn’t comparable
Thank you for the video. I wonder how these would perform out of a 7.5” revolver?
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Glad to be of service!
I’d really love to see the critical defense loading through a rifle. I’ve been very curious of the velocity difference, and how they perform in gel.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Lots more coming
How do the different loads feed through your ruger mags? I’ve heard 270gr is about the limit for the ruger mags before the bullet starts contacting the feed ramp on the mag causing feeding/loading issues and that they don’t like wad cutters. I also hope if you ever get a chance to compare general accuracy between the top loads in each caliber you’ve been testing. It would be interesting to see how they compare relative to each other.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
270 is the heaviest I’ve tried so far, no issues with anything thus far. I will be doing accuracy videos in the near future 👍🏼
👍😊 depends on the price.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Indeed
Sorry. Gotta say it again. "I'd use them" lol. Good stuff.👍👍
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
💯
I’ll be looking for them. Have you shot xpt and ftx hornady loads out of your Ruger?
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Not yet, lots coming
Any hornady XTP tests coming or the PMC TCSP?
@masonleather
8 күн бұрын
Everything is coming
I would rather have hard cast or solid copper for big bear
Questions ….in barrel length, how much improvement/ decrease would 3/8” or 1/2 make.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Less than the deviation between two individual cartridges, it’s irrelevant for all practical purposes
@tubbyshvfd9110
Ай бұрын
@@masonleather kinda figured that but wanted to ask since some seem to place such emphasis on being “exact “
@garytrainer1690
Ай бұрын
That's for sure. "The experts" 🤣🤣👍
BIG BOREEE
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Indeed
I wonder if they make these for 45 cot and 45-70
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
45 Colt yes
Considering this is basically a handgun load, handloading could give that impressive performance quite a bump.
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
Perhaps
Need to make some leather shooting rest for your gun 😃
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
That would be cool
if there's a picture of a bear on the box...........
@masonleather
Ай бұрын
🐻
@luvtahandload7692
Ай бұрын
Ammo makers have necessarily been dumbing it down for an alarming number of hunters for a long time now. Sad, really. 🙄
Leupold is pronounced “Lew Pold” not Leopold. Please people, it’s not that hard…
@brickhammerSS
7 күн бұрын
Sorry but people around here (southern Ohio) say it the way he does