I bought two of the adapters for my dbl barrel 12 gauge. Ordered them on Tuesday, arrived Saturday. Read the instructions, put them in, went to the woods. Long story short, for 60 bucks, I got another gun, they work so well. Using pyrodex ffg , 85 and 80 grains of Shot 7.5 shot and BB’s. Patterns we good. A lot of shot on target. To clean, pop out the adapters and wash with soap and water, dry, oil. Break down the shotgun, wash barrel with soap and water, I also use a brass bore brush, dry oil, reassemble. I Love these things.😁

Pretty cool man. This weekend, we took out your 5in rifled .22 12g and the 20g adapters. They work great! Both of those fit into the survivor forearm perfectly on the single 12g pardoner for storage.

Can Buckshot be used with this adapter?

I would like to see how the shell groups would compared to this?

Do you make an adapter in .327 federal mag for the .410 ideally a 16 inch one?.

Couldnt you use these in 410 revolvers

Can that adapter work with an old savage bolt-action 410?

Do you have to clean your gun in any special way like the old revolvers with soap and water?

Thank you guys for the adaptor, it works great in my h&r survivor 410. I love your adaptors and buy them when I can.

@xjeepmanx

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear..I'm goin to use it on mine too...then carry a 22 adapter and I gots a poor mans m6 scout

hello, please do the 20ga to 209, and the 12ga to 409. could you use the 12ga to 209 in a full choke shotgun? I have an nef full choke that I love and hope that I can use it in there. also could you use #1 shot in a full choke? thank you again love the product

Ray, got a question for you. With the 12 ga. black powder adapter in an NEF cyl. bore, how would you load a .69 round ball or a Lee .68 slug? Thanks

can you do a single shot slug

Shut up and take my money 💵 😂 I’ll be seeing your website soon.

Can you use it in a 410 bolt action

can a full choke be used on the shotgun for turkey hunting with this adapter

@gunadaptersLLC

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, You can use a full choke. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

What choke is 410 ?

No 209 primers left anywhere. Maybe months?

Are there any powders you recommend beside pyrodex rs because I can not find it.

@gunadaptersLLC

9 жыл бұрын

You can use any brand RS - FFG Equivalent Powder. DO NOT use Smokeless Powder.

what caliber round ball is best for .410 cylinder bore?

@gunadaptersLLC

8 жыл бұрын

+James teffertiller We recommend only using shot in these adapters.

Can you use buckshot sized balls with the adapter?

@gunadaptersLLC

7 жыл бұрын

We only recommend using shot in these adapters.

Is there any reason you only recommend using shot in your adapters? I'm just curious, cause I'm no expert and I don't want to risk injury if that's a thing.

@BigD-jc6rj

4 жыл бұрын

There is a step where the cartridge is inserted into the chamber. A ball can catch on that and become an obstruction.

@AldoSchmedack

Жыл бұрын

pressure

Very cool idea. I notice you only use 50 grains of powder, where many muzzle loaders use 100 or 150 on the high side. Have you used 100 grains, and if so, any trouble from chamber pressure using black powder in a .410?

@stevecurry5649

6 жыл бұрын

YFUATIW

@buckeye8069

5 жыл бұрын

What about round ball for 12ga 20ga and 410. With these adapters

@AldoSchmedack

Жыл бұрын

@@stevecurry5649 LMNOP

Why can't you shoot slugs from the gun?

Would one of these work in a judge?

@robertlombardo8437

5 жыл бұрын

Considering that a Circuit Judge fits 410 shot as well as .45 Long Colts, I don't see why not. That's actually an interesting proposition!

Are you unable to load the firearm with no primer?

@tylerstrahan8884

4 жыл бұрын

No you're not able to. Powder would fall out the end of the hole in the adapter

Anymore than the recommended 50 grains amount of Black powder and you risk injury and it does not improve accuracy at all.

@jeffreyelliott622

3 жыл бұрын

What about for the 12 gauge single shot shotgun using the 85 grains powder measurer from short lane is that too much because ZRUS was using that without any mistakes !!

cool

Sorry for break action Shotguns or derringers. Derringers use only 30 grains black powder and shot only.

@stargod3064

3 жыл бұрын

Hello, are there any inserts for a muzzle loading Derringer? 31.cal? For a 22lr? Thanks

So you've invented an empty shotgun shell? Cool.

You can do the same thing with a high brass shotgun shell for free

@BigD-jc6rj

4 жыл бұрын

True. You can also load a 410 shotgun shell with black powder. You have to play with the loading, but it ends up being equal parts by volume of shot and black powder, with just enough room for the wadding in between. Just ensure full compression of the powder and you will be fine. I did it all the time when shooting 12 gauge in cowboy action. It’s a little different with 410, but I ended up loading 4.3cc of PYRODEX RS black powder substitute (using a plastic Lee 4.3cc dipper), followed by a 1/8” nitro wad (about 2 cents apiece), a 1/2 inch fiber wad (about a nickel apiece in packs of 500 from MidwayUSA), 1oz of no. 7 birdshot, and an overshot card (cut using a cheap 3/4” paper punch on empty cereal boxes). The whole stack was exactly enough to fill the shotgun shell, which I would then crimp just as I would any other shotgun shell. The last step was to mark the primer on the back with a black magic marker, to distinguish it from my smokeless shells. After the match, I would clean the barrel and breach using a 10/90 ballistol/water mixture, and it was actually easier to clean than smokeless (but do it as soon as you get home from the range. Burnt black powder is hell on a barrel). If you want to be REALLY cheap, you can collect spent shells at the range (people usually just throw them away) and use the same 3/4” punch to cut the wadding out of corrugated cardboard boxes. Just stack up enough of them in the shell to where the 1oz of shot ends at the top of the shell, and use an overshot card as before (not necessary for buckshot, but birdshot is small and can fall through any gaps in the crimp, common with AA shotgun shells.

Why not reload a shell with black powder or smokeless ?????? trap shooters do it all the time?

Normally the touch hole is very small, small enough to prevent black powder 2FF or 3FF from getting into it. I am assuming the adapter's touch hole is almost pin size if that's the case the proper and safe way to load muzzle loading rifles is the primer go in last after the powder, patch and shots.

Sounds cool, but loading a muzzleloader with a primer installed in the gun is a bit NO-NO when it comes to safety. And I can see how it is impossible to load and then open the breech to add the primer when the breech plug (adaptor) is not screwed and just sitting into the breech. I would love an affordable small game muzzleloader shotgun, but this is iffy IMO.

@ireject1203

2 жыл бұрын

Use a spent primer when packing powder and take out the spent one when your ready to load a good one

@AldoSchmedack

Жыл бұрын

It's damn dangerous but a spent is doable!

I can't believe this guy actually primed the gun before loading the charge.

@xjeepmanx

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too..what if????

@dirtrida274

3 жыл бұрын

You have never loaded black powder huh? If there is no primer the powder just falls through the hole.

@stargod3064

3 жыл бұрын

So this adapter it only works for rifles? What about revolvers?

@buckfizzard291

Жыл бұрын

How would you have done it hank?

Why in the he'll would you put the primer in first !! But it's your lufe

@beardoggin8963

4 жыл бұрын

Jake Grubb yeah that blew my mind as well. But I guess you don’t can’t to open it up after you put the powder in because that would be a mess

Fill the primer in the Gun before filling the black soil like that, it's dangerous While the ammunition is being shaken, there will be trembling causing the fuel to work. The local hunters are dead. Many people who do this.

209 adapter works fine, but what I’ve seen was unsafe. The procedure is load first and then the primer. Primer should never be install in your gun while you load it. Thought I share with you. Be safe shooters.

oops I me 12 ga to 209 lol

never load a muzzle loaded musket in with a primer. cap in place . if that pin is proud 7& Or you ram heavy you edit the primer, bad idea . 410 to musket shot is best .single dall

It is too dangerous to put the primer first. Be careful.

@gunadaptersLLC

9 жыл бұрын

New design has an extractor avoidance slot milled in it allowing one to load the prime last without affecting the load.