Admech players are currently not allowed around the medicine cabinet. We are not alright but we are still trying to take enough copium without ODing.

@Tortle-Man

4 ай бұрын

I swear the rules writer of this book probably has a serious humiliation fetish.

@SuperDuperHappyTime

4 ай бұрын

They ran out of seethium months ago

@crinsim7536

4 ай бұрын

as an admech fan, all they can do at this point is be gay and do crime

@arcadia9589

4 ай бұрын

Please, my stilt boy is dying and needs to lose 15 or more points, please sir

@Matt24002

4 ай бұрын

​@crinsim7536 as someone who also owns Black Templars I approve of this comment.

Berilio is efficient and professional as well as incredibly sexy.

@SuperDuperHappyTime

4 ай бұрын

Pretty sure his secret isn’t horse stimulants, but that he’s straight-edged.

@welderbear6757

4 ай бұрын

I wish him many Colombian snowblowers

@wolf-xf6hf

4 ай бұрын

This is berilio’s alt account isnt it

@Lleldorellin

4 ай бұрын

@@wolf-xf6hfNo, he is just that sexy

@royart4781

Ай бұрын

True....

GW took your joke about the dataslate being dropped Tuesday as a real challenge.

Thank goodness they spotted that a Manticore is exactly equivalent to a Leman Russ Battle Tank...

@christopherwithey2122

4 ай бұрын

I mean GW hates Guard so much, so so much...

@jo_ken

4 ай бұрын

Yeah everyone knows how much the Guard was exploiting having those Manticores and putting up numbers at tournaments. (Sarcasm) I am appreciative of the order changes since it’ll let Scions, Gaunt’s Ghosts, and Transports do a lot more work.

@LollipopKnight2

4 ай бұрын

Honestly, I'm fine with damage-focused generalist arty getting nerfed into the dirt (Basilisks and mortar teams are still fine), until GW figures out how to make play with it actually interactive (my own suggestion would be to significantly discount them, but then give them a one-turn delay when firing indirectly, like the Deathstrike, to represent needing coordinates called in). What irritates me a bit is the fact that GW tried to make Guard so artillery-focused in the first place. Rules built around Remaining Stationary just need to die; it's punishing you for actually playing the game.

@Dram1984

4 ай бұрын

All those manticore heavy lists winning all the tournaments. Pour one out.

@zhershey65

4 ай бұрын

Most indirect vehicles in any army got hit

Stealth change that didnt get talked about: If all the units in your army have Agents of the Imperium keyword, you don't have to pick a detachment. This means you can have a full army of agents (I don't know why you would, but you CAN)

@Tortle-Man

4 ай бұрын

lol it’s broken right now still. It technically doesn’t work.

@johnj.spurgin7037

4 ай бұрын

Imagine if Agents of the Imperium could get unique detachments.

@silenc3068

4 ай бұрын

You could do that before, it just sucked, still does

@jeffrobagman2834

4 ай бұрын

Phear my army of 80 cloned Gregor Eisenhorns!

@patrickmiller4229

4 ай бұрын

Where is the rule for that located?

Brad's pronunciation of Brigand @47:30 broke me... Now I need to hear him say "the psychic pterodactyl has a case of psoriasis" with the Ps to commit to the bit.

@BentJacket

4 ай бұрын

Trust an american to find a new way to misprounce english words XD

@The_Duval

3 ай бұрын

Chiválric during the knights as well

@LuckyForkBobInvictusManeo

2 ай бұрын

@@BentJacket say aluminum Bruvh

16:40 Foreshadowring is a literary device whereby an author drops hints or symbolic representations of plot developments to come later in the story.

@SuperDuperHappyTime

4 ай бұрын

Foreshadowing is meant to inflate suspense, not stamp it out. Foreshadowing hints at what will happen in the future, but a spoiler tells the reader explicitly what happens.

I was literally drinking my morning coffee and saw that " brought to you by caffeine abuse" lol

@dragonshobbyhoard1697

4 ай бұрын

Same lol, I just thought, “oh perfect timing”

@AzkuulaKtaktu

4 ай бұрын

Mmmmm

"Necrons won't get changed this close to their Codex release. You don't get changes when you just got a codex" Me: Cries in Tyranid dataslate changes coming out before the Codex even shipped

@darkChozo8

4 ай бұрын

That wasn't really a points update as much as it was their real codex points. Necrons and Admech also got a points update right after their codices came out, they just didn't line up with the regular balance pass like with nids and marines. Not that that justifies some of those Nid points. God knows what they were doing with the tfex.

So as a guard player it was nice to have a grand total of 3.5 months of feels good since 3rd eddition....

As a Guard player, I feel emotionally validated by this podcast episode!

@cameronbreeze4029

4 ай бұрын

Yeah after all the hate our model line took in recent episodes it's nice to know they don't hate us, just our overpriced plastic XD

@8ballentertainment.885

4 ай бұрын

I have been feeling super meh about my gas mask lads for awhile, like once codexes started to drop I was just loosing constantly, in a way where it felt like I just couldn’t do anything about it. Learning we are one of the lowest winrate armies was a strange mix of relief in the ‘oh, it’s not me and bad list building’, but also a ‘oh, I guess it really is bad and the hopium turned out to be copium. Guess I’ll go back to building up my marines

Rip berilio We will miss you Now get back to work

me as a WE player: in shambles! also they FORGOT US on the winrate table! WHAT!?

@LadyCorvia

4 ай бұрын

also no more fleshhounds for WE either :(

@Wanten-the-stormtrooper

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, they did WE dirty from day 1. Honestly. the way they are currently they should've just kept them in with CSM until their entire range was ready instead of this current half-assed abomination.

@xemnufromthemagicplanet1678

4 ай бұрын

Rip moe. You were the best

Blood Angel you have a faction ability! *Cries in Chaos Knights*

@un7ucky

4 ай бұрын

chaos knights should be a reskin of the other knights... maybe with sidegrades for lore

@Atiredproblem

4 ай бұрын

I hate that I agree with this. It’s been great using an army rule…. Twice? I’ve had months of games with my C.Knights and I genuinely cannot count higher than 2 successful battleshocks caused, let alone by round 3+ when it really matters.

Great work Berilio🎉

For anyone not aware, I *HIGHLY* recommended looking into the berserker glaive + master of executions combo world eaters had, and why it got nerfed. Absolutely hilarious level of damage output. Like, one shot Magnus in one round of combat levels of silliness

@joshramirez2049

4 ай бұрын

Yeah people don’t seem to understand how stupid it was

@CMTechnica

4 ай бұрын

One shot Castellan knights, too

@tuurderom2017

4 ай бұрын

So like guilliman, but I guess a lot cheaper

@xemnufromthemagicplanet1678

4 ай бұрын

@@CMTechnica torn between "that's stupid, no model that cheap should be doing that" and "angry man with a chainsaw on a stick looking at a knight and saying 'nah, I'd win' is fucking hilarious and should have been allowed for that reason alone"

@Forestxavier20

4 ай бұрын

@@xemnufromthemagicplanet1678 As a Thousand Sons and World Eaters player, my thought process is "Damn, Thousand Sons require massive setup to do that, though that is flavorful as it requires planning" and "Haha, angry unga bunga go brr, that's really fun and flavorful."

Slight correction on the DG change: The change means you can't throw multiple free Grenades in the SAME turn. The wombo combo was 3 BPs jump out of Rhinos and throw 3 free Nades at the scariest thing in the enemy army, then pay for a fourth if necessary. It was always once per game, per character, but all 3 could blow it on the same turn. You still get the same number of free Grenades, just limited to 1 free per turn.

RIP Berilio. Your sacrifice will be remembered.

As an IG player… I am in pain. The voice of command change is… nice. Like now Gaunt’s Ghosts and Tempestus scions function as proper units. And putting an officer in a transport is no longer just hurting yourself. But yeah. 45% winrate. No new detachment. So we’re stuck with our artillery focused detachment. And… they nerfed our best artillery by a huge amount.

@CatharsisChaser

4 ай бұрын

As a fellow guard player it definitely is a bummer we didn’t get some minor adjustments but almost every top faction got nerfed pretty hard so that’s a buff in my book imho The army has probably one of the highest skill caps and can do much better than 45% shows when you play a good list well Also that new order system fundamentally opens up new ways to play

@Hello-bp8dx

4 ай бұрын

@@CatharsisChaserI get the sentiment, but really what it does is make certain datasheets (scions, GG, etc) function like they were supposed to have from the start. It’s less of a buff and more fixing an accidental nerf.

@CatharsisChaser

4 ай бұрын

@@Hello-bp8dx I mean the entirety of 10th was a nerf to the complexity of how the army worked, at least orders (on arguably overcosted squishy support characters) have a function outside of the Solar blob now

@Hello-bp8dx

4 ай бұрын

@@CatharsisChaser fair

@Bearvalid

4 ай бұрын

I wanted a new detachment for a vehicle list or an infantry list or anything other than artillery, maybe a character heavy thing? Hm?

Me: Unlike you plebs, I get my news from a reliable source! My "reliable" source: Alright I've been in meetings all day, I just crushed a monster at 8 o'clock at night on a Tuesday, probably gonna die of a heart attack by the weekend.

Yncarne went from once per phase to once per your own turn. It's actually a huge, huge nerf, when you consider that the Yncarne is both far more expensive, lower damage output, and lower durability than C'tans, which are being taken in a detachment that also teleports them around.

@Unknown-qj9sm

4 ай бұрын

I’m not saying it’s not justified, but I’ll miss that ability so much. You could charge something big like Angron, fight, then depending on the order your opponent attacks, and if they kill one of your units, just jump out of combat without getting attacked back. I never was able to pull it off in 10th because it feels mean and involves 2 brain cells from an opponent to avoid, but it’s a really funny idea in theory.

@AllThingsCubey

4 ай бұрын

@@Unknown-qj9sm You can still do that. So long as the Yncarne hasn't already teleported in your turn, you can charge a big, tough unit, attack it, and then teleport the Yncarne away, provided you killed another unit in melee after, and your opponent didn't have the 2CP to interrupt. It's absolutely possible. The difference is you can't teleport once, charge, then teleport again.

@Unknown-qj9sm

4 ай бұрын

@@AllThingsCubey I guess so yeah, I was thinking about getting it away in an opponents turn but yeah it would be easier on my turn

I'm sure someone else said this but in the spirit of the editing of this episode im not bothering to check: The Genestealer price drop in GSC is so they match the points of them in Tyranids, where they were a somewhat played unit before but needed a little extra push.

As a Guard player it was nice to listen to the podcast and hear people talk the factions problems and also not shitting on artillery and indirect just because "it can give the other player a bad play experience"

As a Custodes and Imperial Guard collector, I am filled with both immense joy and mighty scorn at this one depending on which faction.

I just got into Drukhari three weeks ago. After seeing the dataslate and new detachment I built over 50 models in record time. For Commorragh!

@spnked9516

4 ай бұрын

Welcome, brother. Pull up a chair in the cuck shed with the rest of us and be regaled by stories of the good old days, of a time where GW actually remembered we were a faction and more than 1/3s of our roster was usable.

@bonkstrum9555

4 ай бұрын

Just rember to paint the little guys fellow elf fan

As a colorblind person I'm super happy that they made the points changes with my fucked up eyes in mind. Or it was on accident, still feels good.

I can understand where they're coming from for the World Eaters changes. Our army was basically "solved", where everyone was taking a slight variant of the exact same list

@xemnufromthemagicplanet1678

4 ай бұрын

It would have been nice if berserkers got a bit of a buff, but I'm excited to see how things shake out now

@woagwoag

4 ай бұрын

and also... a MOE could oneshot primarchs.

@user-cm9fb5sx2z

4 ай бұрын

And this is still be the case, but there are less units in army and MoE(who will still be in every list with glaive) deals less damage.Thats all the difference. I would understand internal balance if we had some cuts on unused stuff, but LoS was already a fairly playable and strong model, terrain-dependent, true, but good. But all of other models are still shit, hellbrute, maulerfiend, defiler and so on. So list would not change untill we get codex and new models, but now it is just weaker.

16:20 For guard it also lets orders happen after deepstrike or coming in from reserves.

I love the recurring "their win rate was up at..." "Yup"

I’m an IG player. The orders on drop or disembark is kind of a big deal for certain units. The Taurox just doubled in power, as did the Scion Command Squad. Reserves in general, too, probably. Even the Valkyrie is like 20% better. Still sucks, but not as hard.

CSM definitely took a shot, but we were playing with 200 extra points of value as it was, and we've got a deep index. The only change I actually hate is restricting marks for transports in the detachment designed around mixing marks while *also* nerfing the strategems that mixing marks took advantage of. Now every list being come up with is 80% Mark of Slaanesh.

@kabriii

4 ай бұрын

Yeah maybe they shouldn’t went that hard with the point increases(like +15 instead of +20), but the transport rule is absolutely stupid. Also possessed will be much more used from now I think

@Immortal-ironic-fist

4 ай бұрын

As much as I miss undivided units in nurgle transports... I think this change is better in the long run. The change im upset with is how they changed the demon allies to kill every non-nurgling option

@joshramirez2049

4 ай бұрын

@@kabriiiyeah I’ve been telling people that possessed are borderline broken but people don’t believe me for some reason… they kill basically anything in one activation and are fast, tough, and can tie multiple units without much difficulty. I’m surprised possessed didn’t get a small nerf as they’re the same as they were on release and were too strong then… people just forgot about them.

@Xynth25

4 ай бұрын

@@Immortal-ironic-fist I hate the change because the detachment is very obviously Chaos Undivided, pick the best mark for the unit. So you'd slap Undivided Chosen with a Lord, Slaanesh Legionaires with a Master of Executions, and put them in a Nurgle transport, great. Now everything is Slaanesh to maximize movement and the ability to go into transports. Nurgle is dead except on tanks b/c the nerf doubles the amount of board it can be shot from (area of circles scales exponentially), Khorne has always sucked, Tzeentch is super niche, and you're gonna spend Undivided on very specific units. It's Slaanesh all the way down, now.

@Xynth25

4 ай бұрын

@@joshramirez2049 Possessed are great in a world without indirect. Nightspinners were everywhere and killed your ability to Advance for extra movement, that's why they weren't taken. Even post-nerf Eldar will probably still take 2. But they're a good option with the MoP.

I'm so glad Brad saw the riptide's datasheet, because I've been crying about it since the start of the edition.

@steliosvagianos8445

4 ай бұрын

in 9th, I had 2.8k points. Now? 1.7, and the Riptide being so weak is just so infuriatingly sad. It's a night-sized machine that *cannot even wound a transport*@@ironclad6471

@timroham

4 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, the way Brad reacted to seeing the Riptide datasheet was pretty much exactly how I reacted to the index as a whole at launch. Like, why was this written by someone who clearly hates Tau? 😂

So i think the change to demon allies will be healthier in the long run for the reasons you listed... but in the short term its frustrsting since it kills the variety of demon allies. Cknights and CSM used to sometimes take changling, blue scribes, syleeske, blood crushers flesh hounds, seekers... now its JUST nurglings

I am pretty badly colourblind. I had a hard time telling the green from the grey in the munitorum field manual. Thankfully there are up and down arrows but I honestly wouldn’t have been able to tell otherwise.

I think Purestrains went down just because their Nids counterpart went down too. Plus I recall hearing that nobody ran em.

My Ig friend’s actually generally excited, it cannot be understated how much the order thing hampered the faction. Like it made him reluctant to use strategic reserves, transports, and deep strike.

@Reaver102

4 ай бұрын

Its still pretty hampered, but at least its doable now.

That default paintjob for the purestrain genestealers makes them look like imitation crab legs.

Commenting at the manticore nerf...they also nerfed guards revival strat. Technically. Cannot use strats on destroyed units that were battleshocked. Hope that guardsmen squad didn't fail its test!

I think I listened to Brad's impression of the 'whiny younger brother' 10 times. Holy shit it's hilarious. (42:20) And Berilio, please blink twice if Brad and Eric are somehow blackmailing you.

GW "Hmm Chaos players are taking a lot of Deamon or Brigand allies, we better nerf the hell out of that! Callidus Assassins and cheap agent squads? Just fine darling." Also feels like they put more effort into nerfing World Eaters when they have a 52% win rate than Eldar when they had 70%+

@stevecatpatrick8056

4 ай бұрын

I mean to be fair they aren't there on faction the way demons are. As a demons and CSM player I'm actually glad that's changed because demon points shouldn't be determined by their ability to ally but by the army itself. It allows for demons to be buffed which is great. Whereas if you nerf the assassins then they're actually useless

Hello to the Poorhammer Podcast crew, I have recently bought an Adeptus Custodes combat patrol as well as an additional 3 pack of allurus custodians. Soon I will buy Trajonn Valoris and round out my army. With this recent buff I was wondering what the meta is for each of the armies, and what to look out for based on a typical army build. If you guys could make a video based on current army's and their typical builds, what those builds are weak to, strong against, essentially laying out what the metas are, i would truly appreciate it. Naturally you guys have your own ideas, but an idea for the future nonetheless. I've been watching for months now and I can say, without a doubt, it is you two who got me started, you guys got me into this hobby. I'm truly grateful and I don't spite you for the high price tags at all. The video about budget armies (like -$500 army @msrp) or this video reviewing all the armies new stuff has been an amazing help. I truly love and appreciate your guy's respective work. Again, food for thought. Armies, their typical builds and maybe some goofy ones, how they are balanced, what they are good against and bad against etc. I would love to see your guys take on it. I know elite armies strength is the buff units, obviously, and their weakness is they don't have numbers, so they can't be everywhere at once and have to worry about losses. But.. other than that? I'm pretty much hopeless for everything else. I don't understand the point breakdown, the modeled equivalents, or general army building, and while there is the Warhammer app, which is a good guiding hand, it doesn't tell you if the build you make is good or bad.

In 12 weeks, AdMech will get "buffed" with more point drops, making the supposedly elite shooting faction of the Imperium into even more of an expensive horde army that wins by an unfun slog of attrition. GW will eventually get the points per dollar at or below 1 for every kit except maybe Cawl, declare victory, and fix nothing in 11th edition.

@Bluecho4

4 ай бұрын

It's freaking depressing how accurate this assessment is. GW has just decided that AdMech, with its expensive models, is a horde army. It will _remain_ a horde army for the foreseeable future. And then GW will be confused why sales for AdMech drop.

@scolack123

4 ай бұрын

Just +1 to a 3+ on nearly all data sheets would be such a simple buff

The Tyranid changes were pretty great. I like how the nerfs were fairly restrained, and how I can bully my friends with the Tyrannofex again. But Damn, they know Necrons are going to dominate until the decide to nerf the Ctan. I don’t think it’s too early to see that the Ctan are broken. Anyone with basic game knowlage could tell you that.

@johnj.spurgin7037

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I wanted C'tan to go up and necrons are my fav faction. I would have liked warriors to be 8 ppm though, they're pointless with their collective nerfs compared to immortals. No changes also means they aren't fixing the bad detachments, like the problems with obeisance.

@mitchellarndt5534

4 ай бұрын

I agree the tyranids are overall great I feel like we need something that's able to better handle stronger and more elite infantry because as it stands nothing can really stand against other factions terminator equivalent without me loosing a entire unit or two or focusing like all my shooting

@Darkja

4 ай бұрын

They still should have dropped points on stuff like Swarmlord, Hive Tyrant, Psychophage, and so on. But at least Tyrannofex and Screamer-Killer are playable.

21:10 the change was actually to make it so that no matter how many Putrifiers you had, you could only activate the ability ONCE per round. It was always a single use ability per game per model, but now you can't have a clown car of putrifiers pop out and super nuke a target in a single round. Otherwise, great stuff!

It was me, i was looking at the voidraven bomber rules to see how i feel about the current bomber type rules compared to 9th and gwubs took that personally.

WE was AFAIK at like 52% WR (Auspex even mentionned them at 51% last month), so I dont't understand how they got hit on characters, elites and rules. I understand if they take one or maybe 2 of these changes, but nerfing everything? Especially +20 on both characters.

@steeltywars1

4 ай бұрын

It would've been reasonable for all the units to go up half the points they received. It just sucks that it's half our army that got hit when we have generally bad internal balance due to no units that synergize. Most of it stems from a Turn 1 Alpha Strike that is hard to counter if WE goes first.

@RB-xc9wg

4 ай бұрын

@@steeltywars1the one i understand least is the demon prince rule nerf? like i dont know if anyone even used him

@steeltywars1

4 ай бұрын

@@RB-xc9wg Apparently it was because of a very niche Jackal spam list that was being used by top players. It gave the 70 point unit a 4+ invul, that's kind of ridiculous when you had people running average 4 squads of those guys.

Good: almost no changes to my Tau! Bad: WHY THE HELL ARE CRISIS SUITS EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE NOW?!

@Cross_Malaki

4 ай бұрын

Because GW wants to Squat us, same as the last six editions.

@keyanklupacs6333

4 ай бұрын

You literally just got new kroot announced@@Cross_Malaki

@archer9480

4 ай бұрын

Because Crisis Suits are pretty much the best unit in Tau right now. They can just drop in and delete one thing of your choice.

@DJROCKSTAZ

4 ай бұрын

@@archer9480 Yes, they are good, but my problem is there was NO need to hike the price up that much. I guess I was just blown away by how expensive they are now.

@archer9480

4 ай бұрын

@@DJROCKSTAZ I guess I looked at the new price and just thought "eh, I'll still run them the same as I did before"

As a guard player from the end of 8th when I started Warhammer to now hearing "let's see what they got for points changes hopefully it's something good" I just laughed. I'm hoping the no new detachment but just as low as drukari means we have a codex coming soon.

@cameronbreeze4029

4 ай бұрын

As someone who also started playing in 8th, those were the days. Boards big enough for our ranges to makes sense, deployment zones where you could fit more than 70% of your list. Artillery that you were allowed to bring to a game without upsetting people (apart from the whole mortar team thing). Sub factions!? You remember when guard was one of several different distinct cultures and not just a blob of men? Man we had no idea how good we were eating.

@HamSlammich

4 ай бұрын

@@cameronbreeze4029 I'm ngl I liked 9th and 10th so much more, it makes alot more of the guard kit useful while making armies viable with less cheese lists, attaching characters to units will always be my favorite feature of 10th

@cameronbreeze4029

4 ай бұрын

@@HamSlammich That is good, also how it used to work for a long time.

Great episode guys, really helping me understand 40K again after being AWOL. Also RIP your endocrine systems.

You guys missed the change to strands of fate that I'd bigger than losing half the dice you can only use its once per phase

Totally agree on the Riptide. It’s nice that it’s actually cheap enough to consider playing but it really feels like it should be a strong centerpiece type unit that’s costed appropriately, right now they’re making the flagship cool huge battlesuit feel like a bit of a chump lol

Thankfully the Grey Knights index was updated! But what they did in the dataslate was still ham fisted.

I'm a spotify guy, but I got time to bump your youtube numbers this week, gl and thanks for the hard work

This entire edition has been "too soon to fix admech"

@andian9898

4 ай бұрын

I'm so sick of "it's too early" "the codex was just released" bruh we have known admech has been in the trash since the beginning of 10th, no changes this dataslate is unacceptable for me. How long do I have to watch $1000s of dollars collect dust. Literally no other army has this problem.

@gallusdomesticuskfptechpriest

4 ай бұрын

I genuinely think the person in charge of admech rules isn't smart enough to know how to do arithmetic with multiple-digit numbers

WOOOOOWW a poorhammer video that comes out within a month of the event!

Thank you for the overtime editor

Berillio's name shall be remembered in the halls of glory

All Hail Berilio, the best worker in the Poorhammer basement. He did good work, couldnt even tell this was a rush job

As a Dark Angel player, we are all just generally confused at the moment.

@johnj.spurgin7037

4 ай бұрын

You are joining admech. You genuinely have my condolences.

The new Drukhari detachment looks so god damned fun to play. Managing resources will be a knife's edge, but boy howdy, we'll get to move fast and kick ass if played right!

I just wanted Bondsman back... 😢

Loved the breakdown! Thanks for getting it out so early guys :)

me an innocent whitescars bystander catching random drive-by shots #feelsbad

31:00 "And we kept Realspace Raid...it still exists. If you really love pain, and what to get that side of Drukhari, you could still play Realspace Raiders." Christian von Carmian, on his video about the update, brought up the point that Realspace Raiders is good if you run a Coven-heavy list. With all the pain engines and Grotesques. Because it has the Stratagem that makes ANY Coven unit more durable. The new Transport-focused Detachment doesn't have that Strat, or any synergy for Covens except for Wracks hanging out in vehicles. So if that side of the army - if you bring tons of Talos and Chronos, etc - you're not getting as much out of Boat Spam Detachment.

Voidraider Bomber was a shooting platform used in Aeldary.

You can still overwatch on a units set up despite the change, as the overwatch strat specifically allows for units to be shot at when 'set up.'

@funkycrunk

4 ай бұрын

Yeah incredibly sloppy wording on poorhammers side. I have already had to field questions about whether or not you can over watch things being set up from reserves anymore with people citing this video.

@FriendlyKillbot

4 ай бұрын

@@funkycrunk Same.

I’m disappointed C’tan weren’t nerfed. They are so broken right now. Super happy they finally fixed Dev Wounds for Custodes

Don’t knights and agents of the imperium have the problem of demons by being able to be splashed in imperium lists. Maybe if we start splashing them into more lists thanks to the nerfs they will realize what to fix about them and make them more useful in their own army.

@Bluecho4

4 ай бұрын

The difference is that Chaos players splash Daemons to get hyper-cheap Secondaries fodder. Imperium players run Knights because they need heavy ordinance, and they run Agents of the Imperium because they have a particular problem they want to solve. (They were taking that one Arbites squad for cheap fodder, but that got nerfed out). At least with Knights, you're generally also paying a premium, due to how many points even baby knights cost to field. It's not an insignificant splash.

I watched a different Index review and there were several Drukhari players who were arguing that the Realspace Raid is better than the new detachment. They are out there

@william3958

4 ай бұрын

Rsr is 100% better

Guess my career with the guard will benefit from a passage from Heinlein that stuck with me throughout my time in the Infantry too, "Soldier, shut up and soldier."

As a player who's main army is guard and who plays in a local tournament scene, I do wish we got some buffs, but while are win rate is lower, we actually have some good match ups against alot of the top tier armys right now. Not quiet with Alder or CsM, but now that they got some targeted nerfs we play better into them. That Being said...why nerf the maticore? I haven't played with mine since last edition... in my experience it gets out classed by the utility of the Basilisk and the cheap cost of Heavy Weapons Mortars

@CatharsisChaser

4 ай бұрын

The manticore was a direct counter to some of the most prevalent 3 wound deathballs running around and generally just a good damage dealer to everything else (as long as you roll blast well lol) And agreed on that first point, by comparison to the top armies we got buffed The army is much better than the 45% when you play a good list well, sucks that we didn’t get some minor adjustments to make people pet units better but the core units are pretty solid rn Also new order change is pretty big as well

Its always nice to predict your own pain in the need to double episode.

24:15 I like how Brad basically retook his line in case Berilio wanted to include the nicer version, and no chance.

Thanks Barelio! Your sacrifice is appreciated.

Thank you very much for this episode Brad, Eric, and Berilio

BA - Termies with Chainfists are now the most efficient can opener if you can deliver them close enough.

I used a stompa the other day, and I was pleasantly surprised when it took away most of my opponent's stormsurge's wounds in one shooting phase. And then it exploded turn 3 and that was awesome!

Love this type of content please do every data slate

At 12:38 congrats Berelio on that fantastic art selection for Sisters. Literally just a zoomed in shot of boob-armor, because what else is there to say about Sisters? The most iconic aspect of their faction.

Thank you Berilio! Honestly I couldn't tell the difference quality wise, same great work as usual!

You guyes work in tech. You should know that "by March" means March 31, 23:59:99.

@keyanklupacs6333

4 ай бұрын

I mean ford larps as a tech company but that doesn't make it a tech company.

As an orks, Tsons, and Chaos knights player, this was a truly insightful and needed update and podcast episode

Thanks B. Well done getting this out

Thanks Berilio for your hard work!

i started to paint my custodes at the start of the edition, with all the hype, then with the nerf, i slowed , now with this launch is near to end the paints, well maybe is good time to finnish.

As an imperial knights player, I like the points cuts, but it won’t help us enough. We got enough points to fit in one more little knight. The re-roll buff is nice, but we would all prefer to get bondsman back.

Chaos Knights points drops mean nothing, they are still overcosted and you wont run them over dogs, so yeah, this points drops are only for them to give themselves pats on the back "we are helping", but nothing changed. Points should go waaaaay down to big knights to be usable, only one i see having play now is the Despoiler, and thats only because its the one that can simply ignore melee completely and blast with x2 gatlings and also doesnt have an aura that matters. Abominant is still trash. Some people might start experimenting with them, but i assure you competitive lists will stay clear from them still. HOWEVER, if they instead made better Army Rules for the faction, and this army rules helped big knights with extra stuff over dogs, with decent balance both dogs wounldnt need to go up, and big knights wouldnt need to keep going down to be good... but that requires both work and interest, so it wont happen. Imperial Knights points drops also mean very little, lists that run 3-4 might be able to ally 1 agents to hold objectives or score points, lists with 2-7 might ally a small ally for objectives or allow you to get the callidus without degrading one of your big knights, on lists with 1-10 it does nothing. They seriously need bondsman back and enough poins drops so a list with 3-4 can get to 3-5 and on lists with 3-7 being able to ally a second small unit or trading both allies for another armiger giving them 2-8. That plus bondsman could or should be enough.

For deathguard it was always once per battle. But people were taking 3 biologos putrifyers and doing 4 grenade strats in one turn.

As a Custodes player, I am happy that we are finally playable on a more competitive level. I would have liked for the characters to be a bit cheaper and nobody will be running the bikes even now but I'll take the Guard and Warden points, now I can take a bit more chaff for objectives and survive a bit more dev wounds spam. As for the comments from the players who run dev wound heavy armies, please understand that you were never meant to dunk on us that hard. We caught a stray bullet for the Eldar nerf to dev wounds and we've been suffering from it until now. We will most likely be around 48-49% win rate. Don't trust the 47 GW had, we were closer to 45.

You guys have a lot more faith in GW than me. With how much salt the Dark Angels gave off because they don’t have 12 detachments when many armies still have 1 I could see them adding special snowflake marine detachments to pacify the crybabies before I see them giving us another Daemon or GSC detachment.

You should see the discourse going on in 'Drukhari land' about the new detachment. :)P Peel back the curtain and enter our lairs, and you'll see a mini civil war raging in Commoragh. So many people pointing out how Skysplinter doesn't give enough pain tokens and command points to let you use all the shiny new strats and toys. Them saying "Realspace Raid might still be the best detachment, we only needed Archons joining Incubi to fix it, it's all we needed, you should stick with Realspace Raid, it's mathmatically the better option, don't fall for the new detachment's tempting lies!" Meanwhile the other side is basically saying "I don't care, the new rules be sweet, I'm sick of Realspace Raid, we'll figure it out as we go along, new toys are shiny, F*** it we ballin', Drukhari are back babyyyy! Yolo! Yeet!" Must say it's very entertaining to watch 😁 naturally I'll be backing both sides like any good Archon, sipping my wine and smiling. All in good fun :)

@rekadd

4 ай бұрын

i was running 6 units of wracks in realspace raid to get enough tokens but now i can get tokens from killing enemy units and i now dont need to empower 4 units to make sure i kill 2 i am strongly on the never running realspace raid again bandwagon

@In_Purple_Clad

4 ай бұрын

6 Wrack Units! Hot dang, I'm impressed. Loving the dedication 😊. Seriously that's actually a great list idea for the new detachment. You must be loving the new 'stick 10 wracks in a boat, yeet and roll mortals' strat

Praise be to our mighty editor.

Berilio with a quicksilver turn around

Pray for Berillio, may his invoices always be approved on time.

Berilio truely is a master wizard. Episode sounds just as good as any other. Clearly Brad and Eric need to pay Berilio more!!!

Thank you Berilio! Great work as always

Very happy with the knights drops giving men's whole 2 more armigers and a vindicate.

I’m actually really excited for the Kroot box T’au codex. I know it’s gimmicky, but all of the models are new and I’ve been wanting to get into the kroot.

@efffvss

4 ай бұрын

Likewise. Kroot were always the most interesting thing about Tau imo. If I'm feeling madly optimistic I'd love the Kroot Detachment to come with a Knight-esque rule that lets you soup Kroot into other factions, because they're mercs. It'd be great to add some avian PMCs to my Votann...

On the topic of dataslates needing better notation: for the Aeldari army rule they noted the first sentence change, but removed from the document the once per phase change, which makes it unclear whether or not that has been reverted or not...

One thing I still find weird about necrons is the command barge not having the overlord keyword. Other than that small thing I was expecting nothing else to be changed

@johnj.spurgin7037

4 ай бұрын

Obeisance is going to be functionally dead until they fix keywords, yeah.