"wow we did a great job on the orks codex, better nerf the custodes again to be safe"

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

*laughs in CSM*

@fmalch1209

Ай бұрын

This is what happens to a fighting force when you include diversity hires

@GertusMaximus747

29 күн бұрын

Found the incel

@mpepp9

28 күн бұрын

@@GertusMaximus747Grow up kiddo

“Admech fans, we hear you. That’s why we’re buffing Orks.”

@XenoTechnian

Ай бұрын

This isn't a balance update

@megazaku1139

Ай бұрын

@@XenoTechnianyou’re right, but it may aswell be one of

@h-grid3137

Ай бұрын

​@@XenoTechnian Yeah but its rule change that fixes some of mistakes in codex. Like the once in Admech codex.

@brigaderxxx

Ай бұрын

Bruh 💀

@irgilligan

Ай бұрын

@@megazaku1139 Um...so you're complaining that typo fixes are a bad balance update...while it's not a balance update...

DA BIG BOSS GOT IZ DROIVERZ LOICENZE NOW LADZ

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

WAAAAGH!

@stripeybag6977

Ай бұрын

E'z been learnin for da Speed Freekz game.

@thethrongler3070

Ай бұрын

WAAAAGH!

@loganchase4371

Ай бұрын

@@stripeybag6977 WE'Z SO PROUD OF EM AIN'T WE LADS

@MarketResearchReading114

29 күн бұрын

HONK IF UZ GREENIST!!!

For all the Custodes players out there: Horus Heresy is lovely this time of year

@tomekk.1889

Ай бұрын

I've already invested so much into 40k tho

@RturokDaw

Ай бұрын

Havent played custodes in 30k yet. But lgs says custodes are a boogeyman faction. A novice 30k custode player could stomp a good player with a good sm list.

@hannahgeraghty4201

Ай бұрын

​@@RturokDaw no, they wouldn't. I've played quite a bit of custodes in 30k, there's one list that they can built that's oppressive as shit but overall the army is actually quite underpowered. Whoever told you that either sucks at the game or is still salty about how strong Custodes were in 1.0

@Szt1998

Ай бұрын

​@@tomekk.1889Custodes use the same models.

@WilhelmScreamer

Ай бұрын

​@@RturokDawthat was more an issue with the first edition. They are much more a normal army in the current one

Hopium for the Dataslate it is then. Valerian being able to DeepStrike is nice however, still mind blowing that he couldn’t beforehand.

@TheSpartanWin

Ай бұрын

Tell the Ad Mech to save some for us

@timhorsburgh2193

Ай бұрын

@@TheSpartanWin And the Dark Angels

I’m convinced that whoever is responsible for writing 10th just hates the Imperium.

@jacksonashworth150

Ай бұрын

For real, sisters lost a lot of their flavor, Marines don't feel like Marines and are even more bland than usual unless you're a Dark Angels player or a Black Templars player. The admec and custodes codex are literal war crimes against their player bases. Guard has had it the best overall this edition but I have a sinking feeling in my gut that when they're codex comes out they're going to be unbelievably OP but It's going to break the internal balance of the data sheets and The Meta Army for them is going to be super expensive while everything else is practically going to be unplayable.... Just a feeling though.

@tbone11x

Ай бұрын

We're not allowed to enjoy things that they see as wrong think.

@LordCrate-du8zm

Ай бұрын

I’m fearful for my bois the Knights. I already lost the Fists to bad writing, I won’t lose my big stompy robots too!

@malekiththeeternityking5433

Ай бұрын

They see us Imperium players as Goosestepping SS members what do you expect?

@LordCrate-du8zm

Ай бұрын

@tbone11x if you saying “wrongthink” was supposed to be a reference to 1984 because “muh GW is dystopian megacorp”, I’m sorry to say that “wrongthink” isn’t a word in Newspeak. The term you’re looking for is “crimethink”, which only applies to illegal thoughts.

Because of the way they structured the Custodes Codex if they return the protection against Devastating wounds it will only be in that one detachment that requires Sisters of Silence to be near. Also I expect it will remain on 5+. That won’t budge Custodes playability in any significant way.

@BurnByMoonlight

Ай бұрын

Or they can just make it part of Martial Katas so it’s detachment independent.

As a Custodes Stan. I love that the most impactful ruling in this FAQ regarding Custodes is a nerf.

The old shoulder the mantle stratagem allowed you to deep strike a unit of custodes and make a 5 inch charge with them. This was one of the only fun things in the codex.

The entire aspect of "FNP for mortal wounds" needs to be completely fixed for the entire game. 10th Edition was released with MANY units having FNP for MWs back when both strats, abilities, AND DEVASTATING wounds would all deal MWs. It was clearly a balance that FNP for MWs was intended to balance devastating wounds. Now it's gone and because of it, there are TONS of units who have a completely useless FNP for MWs. Sure, Tank Shock and Grenades are great, as well as units that Charge and cause MWs, but Dev Wounds are still the #1 cause of deaths to many of those models. The Lion is 300 points and still unplayable. IF they simply fix his Aura to be a FNP for MWs and Dev Wounds, then he'd be in EVERY list immediately again. All armies need this fixed by a balance dataslate update. Not just Custodes. The fact that I have been breaching this after the Dev Wounds change and ONLY Custodes got it was a slap in the face to every single army that needed its protection.

I'm seeing a lot of Hopium from Custodes players that GW will improve rules when they see how bad it is; which makes me feel these people haven't seen what GW did to the AdMech or Dark Angels. "Your points will get cheaper, you'll buy more minis and you'll be happy about it!" - So sayeth James.

@timmccrthy

Ай бұрын

I can’t get over how much I love Warhammer and hate the idiots that make it. The only thing that comes close for me is the Red Sox.

@prestonpowell9222

Ай бұрын

They did toss drukari and grey knights a bone, it's not impossible just highly unlikely

Glad to see ghaz palling around with some meganobz in the battlewagon, might be how I run him though I do enjoy the huge unit footslogging

The auric Champions detachment would be totally fine if the detachment buffed character UNITS instead of models.

Requiem for custodes

“Man orks are looking great! Let’s nerf custodes.”

Nah, I think the reason for Ghaz's previous capacity was purely because that's what he had in 9th. I think they were a little leery of changing it even though he's no longer intended to really work as a solo model. In 9th, he was 18 because that was the highest even number that let you have him with Makari.

This was discussed many times, but it used to say "Ghazghkull Thraka takes 18 spaces" which is also the name of the unit including Makari, where it now says "the Ghazghkull Thraka model". To me this change confirms that the intended meaning was clearly to have him ride with two bodyguards - now even three.

Whoever wrote the Custodes codex should be fired. Its like that codex was written for a completely different game, and also like they completely forgot about everything we learned about Custodes rules this edition (mostly referring to dev wounds)

@Duncecap64

Ай бұрын

It likely was because think about it like this we are seeing already from a leak paperwork for the gray nights so when we see their Codex come out that gives us an idea of the lead time before they come out. Given this codex was likely written before 10th edition was even out Just given the time frame or at the start of the addition when they were incredibly overpowered yeah it's likely it was written for when devastating wounds were mortal wounds, well also the codex itself likely nerfing it while they were at that state of the game which yeah that gives you an idea of how bad the lead time is.

@capt.cheesecake6875

Ай бұрын

Whoever wrote... I mean yeah, completely clueless... But who the hell was in charge of approving and saying "Yes, this is a good Codex, send it to print", also off with their head

@spoonsrattling

Ай бұрын

Such is the monkeys paw of the early codex. Yeah you get one of the early codex, but it's one of the early codexes

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

Because it was written 6th months back, right after they topped unnerfed eldar at the top tournament tables. Mind, that only explains a bit of the changes. Most of the codex is just abysmally designed to boot. An SoS detachment is a great idea... or would be if they had more than 2 sprues! Also, Ka'tahs should be the shield host rule, not factionwide when all the SoS don't benefit. It's just tragic. I do homebrew crunch for fun and I could do better alone just based on going over the detachments we've seen before and maybe some imput from people more familiar with custodes lore. The sheer fail of that codex ffs...

@hansyolo8277

Ай бұрын

@@johnj.spurgin7037 Considering the FAQ/errata for the codex is out, the whole point of "it was written 6 months ago" no longer matters in any way, too. The production delay was a decent point to the baffling rules. The FAQ/errata was literally their chance to fix the codex with the things we've learned this edition, and they chose not to. Pain. Agony, even. Man I just want my bananas to be decent :(

Imagine some mad lad on the game design team bringing back grot tanks and making them hard counter custodes.

I’m happy for the Orks players-Ghaz getting adjusted looks like it’ll open a fun option. My Shelfstodes will continue to gather dust.

Auric Champions has an interaction that wasn't intended but was the only thing that made it worth running. Can't be having that...

Auric Champions could really be the detatchment that let's Custodes be what the lore says they are. Get rid of stratagems that force us to use the leader mechanic and bring back "Unleash the Lions" or "The Emperors Heroes" from 9th. Let me drop 6 allarus in the middle of the field and they all spread out over the board since they're supposed to be "armies in their own right"

Why even own a codex anymore when things get changed so quickly

@Zakading

Ай бұрын

That's exactly why you shouldn't

@knoxminis1211

Ай бұрын

This is the first time that I have really just said, no thanks. I have 8K points of Custodes and will not be buying that tome of garbage that will inevitably be changed this summer. I also really like the the cards that GW produces, but not having the Forgeworld options in there for Custodes is lazy/stupid. So, I won't be buying those either.

@NornQueenKya

Ай бұрын

@knoxminis1211 I haven't bought codexes in a while to be honest. At least in 8th you got a bunch of lore and art. 9th they just kinda cut a whole lot of it. Then of course with say custodes and a few others there's only a few units so the codex is super thin... AND $50+

@UntestedGaming

Ай бұрын

This is actually the first edition where it matters since you get to unlock the rules on the app and those do get updated when there's an errata

@Zakading

Ай бұрын

@@UntestedGaming That's assuming people willingly use the app. It's honestly really lackluster for such an expensive service.

Thank you as always for the awesome and speedy content

Ah yes, buff the already unstoppable orc army and nerf the weak ass stodes

Man, that Custodes interaction they patched out seemed like it could actually be a fun niche strategy. Is it even an issue in an edition where other army rules have 6" or even 3" deep strike?

@istvanhorvath3306

Ай бұрын

those are strict no charge ones.

@OrangeJulivs

Ай бұрын

@@istvanhorvath3306 The Warp Rift detachment rule conditionally allows normal 6" deep strikes. I wouldn't have a problem with this ability conditionally allowing something similar, but c'est la vie.

They just need to remove Devastating Wounds on the models that cause the problem and return it back to normal.

@WilhelmScreamer

Ай бұрын

Or tweak how dev wounds work such that attacks dont splash but non attack sourves are multiple individual wounds that do splash over Same net result with fewer rules needing changes

11:51 if we're being honest, with how bad the detachment is i kinda like these workaround things. Its not like the didn't have some sort of foavor to be argued for: a commander with a teleport homer keeping the incoming squad informed of what theyll need to do the moment they get there, a pegendary commander uniting the custodes under his command into a grand unified force.

Part of me was hoping to get Beast Snagga on the Gargantuan Squiggoth

You know, I like that Auspex ends his videos saying "I post new videos just about every day" as if he posts one video each day when he often posts multiple videos in a single day.

Luckily my local game store started up a kill team event recently. So I’m more than happy to put the custodes on the back burner and play ad mech in kill team until they get fixed in a few months

The gretchins carry the orks army on their backs lol

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

Orks are pretty CP hungry. CSM too, but orks have an easier time getting CP.

@themilo1567

Ай бұрын

As it should be.

@brownmims2311

Ай бұрын

Lore accurate!

How does the "Shoulder the mantle" stratagem work with advancing. Does the deep striking unit count as advanced if the character advanced? Does it count as "remained stationary" if the character did?

I wonder which way they're going to jump with Venomcrawlers when they get round to the CSM codex clarifications. At the moment, in the printed Codex the Venomcrawler only gains additional attacks if it kills something in melee, whereas in the digital rules in the app it gets them for kills in melee or shooting like it did in the Index. Since digital rules are usually the more up-to-date it'll be interesting to see whether they roll them back to match the Codex.

Admech still waiting for buffs, when was our codex released again?

The custodes codex really buffed my imperial guard collection

Does this mean the gargantuan squiggoth transport changes as well when it comes to ghazghkull?

Coulde be that GW is writing crappy Custodes Rules to "fix it" later by turning them into another horde army

So no clarification on bigger shells for bigger gitz? Community seems split on whether the extra 1 damage when you push has to apply to vehicles or monsters (per the first part of the rule) or if you can push it for +1D on any unit. Feels like it’s the former but would hate to find out I’m underutilizing it!

I am so concerned for whenever my Death Guard Codex comes out. I was about to start a Custodes army (still have plans to) but then they got nerfed into the fucking mud and now I think I will wait a little bit before I do anything of the like.

@guyperson7487

Ай бұрын

Death guard isn’t imperium, you’re fine

@drunkenastarte5243

Ай бұрын

@@guyperson7487 I mean, they literally forgot to give DG actual faction rules to begin with, and only got shamed into it after weeks of sub 35% win rates... iirc, at one point, DG even dipped very briefly to a week of 28 or 29% win rates. The army may "function" at a so-called "competitive" level, but it doesn't play or feel like a Death Guard army should. There's no toughness or resilience in the supposedly 'most super-resilient of resilient Marines', large parts of the army are still unplayable and not taking War Dogs/Nurglings is basically just shooting yourself in the foot. I want my infantry horde of hard-as-nails walking pus tanks back! Instead, if I don't hide everything in Rhinos, my Marines just get melted by even basic arms nowadays 😞

@WilhelmScreamer

Ай бұрын

@@drunkenastarte5243 deathguard had the mechanical identity overhauled to a debuff army because it turns out that mass damage mitigation causes cascading problems. DG are still demonstrably more durable than their loyalist counterparts when you cpmpare like to like. But this edition has been very conservative on damage reducing effects.

@guyperson7487

Ай бұрын

@@drunkenastarte5243 I know it was meant to be a joke. Gw just hates certain factions for whatever reason

@timunderbakke8756

Ай бұрын

@@guyperson7487although in the past imperium did fine rules wise. I do think it’s a little funny how that’s worked out in 10th but I don’t think the codex space marines is even all that bad. The main issue is just everyone builds around marines because they’re popular. I do wish they’d errata the 1st company to “your termies/veteran units always get reroll wound on oath” as a way to use them.

I'm not disputing that every codex needs work to give them decent rules and flavour again, but I wouldn't more some core rules changes to aircraft. Please? 👉👈

there goes my decision to pocket custodes....

@alecatnight1540

Ай бұрын

Kill team! :)

I can´t seem to find it on the website. Triggering.

@passchen-fail3704

29 күн бұрын

Same, man, same.

Should've let Ghaz ride with five meganobz, three still isn't going to see him being taken.

@proicec7718

Ай бұрын

Yeah right 😂 he’s an absolute beast with even 2 meganobz

@passchen-fail3704

29 күн бұрын

Ghaz was great with just five and footslogging, he’d be great with three in a battle wagon. Do you even play orks? I played them a week and a half sgo

Hopefully this is a good sign for the leagues of votann and the iron master problem. Can't put him in the land fortress with 3 thunderkin

Meanwhile I just bought a deathwatch combat patrol & found out about the rumors of the entire army being dissolved -_- might just build them as salamanders or ultramarines

@alexmoran3187

Ай бұрын

The rumors says they would join imperial agents, which means more minis you could use as battleline / not allied forces

@gbln_38

Ай бұрын

@@alexmoran3187 that would be awesome. I just feel like it's up in the air right now, so I've been apprehensive when it comes to building the miniatures

Oh about freaking time! Ghaz will ride again!

Ork players have been a bastion of positivity in the community, it finally feels like we got some love from GW for being da bestist. Oye ladz we'z greenist soz wez best!

So new codexes already dated?

This changes so much

we made an army weak? oh sorry, we will drop the points a lot. what? you need to buy more models....huh thats strange

Waggghhhh!!! Let’s go WH w/ Orkz so epic!!!

I always thought Ghaz and Makari were supposed to count as a single model.

cool love them

oh wow 1 meganob more in the battlewagon, what a change....

Having only recently accepted their first diversity hire into their ranks, the custodians are astonished by just how rapidly things have been worsening for them ever since.

Guess whoever wrote the rules for GW before and hated Chaos Space Marines has moved on and been replaced by someone who hates Custodes.

Might as well play Grey knights

It amazes me how many people don’t seem to understand that “Errata” is “misprints in a text” and FAQ is “clarification of what is written”. Neither of them are or would appropriately have anything to do with balance or deliberate changes.

Ghaz still can't leave a transport - his base is bigger than 3" so you can't legally disembark him. He can't be wholly within 3" of the transport.

@RexTheAlbinoGecko

Ай бұрын

There are rules that specifically cover it, he has to be within 1" of the transport when he disembarks. Core rules

I don’t understand how the Shoulder the Mantle stratagem was allowing either of the problems in the first place. It targets the character, why would the unit he’s joining move to him. He should be moving to the unit he’s joining meaning normal deep strike charge range. And why would it allow you to double up units that’s clearly not how the game works. Who could conceivably interpret it either of those ways they’re clearly just wrong. If someone had tried either of those I’d have called cheating.

@Sandathunder

Ай бұрын

At last some sense in this sea of tears

Ghaz is 3 times a meganob in wounds, so he should only take 3 times the space. for me, he included makari in 18 anyways. but now we finaly have a solution. late, unsatisfying, but nice anyway.

GW shooting custodi players in the foot just to hit Superman, where it hurts. 😢

Why’s Ghaz the only model to have stipulations on taking damn near a whole transport to hold him. Get rid of it he’s T6

i'm still sore from the Tau nerf

bruh deathwatch left to rot again

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

I'd bet cash deathwatch are getting wrapped into imp agents. They're practically an arm of the ordo xenos. By that standard though... gray knights are ordo malleus

I wonder if they haven't changed the dev wounds thing cause they plan on reversing the rule that dev wounds aren't mortal wounds anymore. It does feel like the big issue with devastating wounds before was eldar but now they aren't busted like before its probably ok to bring back the original rule

@loganparry2676

Ай бұрын

They definitely aren't going to make that change because of all of the Dev Wounds they keep adding to the game. Making them Mortal Wounds allows for people to FNP a lot of stuff.

Damm Orks get a big buffs and meanwhile Custodes get Valerian changes who isn't even good :^)

Skipped to custodes. See we're still noit fixed. Okie dokie.

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Oh thank god they nerfed/removed out short charge out of deepstrike, we were definitely waaaaay too strong with that.

Just call it command points please

So the only cool thing auric champions could do they took away...

I don't think Custodes are so terrible: into a 2000 points list you can fit in 3x 5 men wardens with each one a Blade champion plus 3x 5 men regular custodian guard, 1 Shield Captain and a small squad of sister of silence to stay on the home objective. It's a lot of custodes for a ultra élite army and each squad can withstand a large quantity of fire. Obviously It's a 4++ save army, sometimes you can roll really hot and sometimes not, but in melee custodes do their job pretty well for what i saw

@zacharymendoza4945

Ай бұрын

At a casual level they are fine, just don't try to play them competitively or against anyone with a brain and you'll be fine!

@steveguinto2704

Ай бұрын

I’ve tried a list with exactly that. Still got destroyed by shooters /w dev wounds. Infantry movement is very slow.. even with the once per battle advance and charge the blade champion provides

@alessiogiuffrida6172

Ай бұрын

@@steveguinto2704 i hope then GW will give just a FnP 5+ only against dev wounds and mortal wounds in general, not against all. They would be overpowered with those point costs

Wait... They didn't fix the "Grots Vehicle" issue for Dread Mob?? There's literally NOT A SINGLE UNIT with that keyword😭

@eligibledark0036

22 күн бұрын

Grot tanks bby

@tomashogberg8514

21 күн бұрын

@@eligibledark0036 Nope, not even them lol. They have Grots, and they have Vehicle. Not "Grots vehicle". And even if they did, they're not in the codex where this rule is so it doesn't make any sense at all.

This is what happen when you generate codex rules by chat GP...

Custodes players: Finds a way to make Custodes a little bit fun and interesting. Games Workshop: ...and I took that personally. The fact that TT were able to make Custodes fun and feel like Custodes without even trying goes to show how little GW cares about the health of the game.

I wish Ghaz was just a little bit beefier based on his model size 😂

Shame they didn’t adjust the custodes mortal wound shenanigans but what can you do, just gotta stay golden

I feel like GW has targeted me this edition

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

3D print in revenge. They only care about cash in the end.

❤🔥

WAAAAAAAAAHG

Oh cool so they basically did nothing for custodes. Love it.

Orks buffed?? Lol omfg they are unstoppable already ... WTF.

That’s what you call a golden L

I was going to purchase Custodes as my first army after getting an Allarus squad as a gift. But now I think I’ll pass. I don’t need to be depressed while playing terrible rules on my favorite army.

@alecatnight1540

Ай бұрын

Horus heresy?

@StorytellerCharm

Ай бұрын

@@alecatnight1540 I’m guess. But I feel like committing to being a consumer like this just rewards GW for being lazy

I am so glad I saved the detachment and points cost pre-codex for custodes. GW can get fucked.

As overtuned as 10ed is, I'm amazed how GW just lets some factions stary in terrible shape like custodes and admech for so long. I don't care if some of the top 10% warhammer players in the world can win with those factions; they aren't fun to play and feel like you're either swinging and/or wearing pillows.

The problem with Custodes though is that they have very strong datasheets, and as such it's way too easy to make them OP: if they still had the index detachment, with 4+fnp against mortals and devs, then you would only ever take that detachment as it covers your army's biggest weakness. To make the others even remotely viable, they'd have to provide some really powerful buffs to make it worth ditching the fnp, but then if you're playing against one of the many, many armies without good access to mortals, then you've essentially lost nothing while making the banana boys even more tedious to play against.

@honnorgaurd

Ай бұрын

i really get sick and tired of hearing this argument. theres a reason why they have strong datasheets. they are EXTREMELY FEW in number. my entire 1000 point army will have less models than some players will in just one unit. They NEED to be that strong our theyd just get swatted off the board. like, seriously you pay alot for that data sheet. my basic custode guard cost more than your most expensive tanks. im not saying they shouldnt be balanced, but with armies like this, balancing needs to be done in SMALL corrections, not with a damn sledge hammer like they seem to like to do. even before this update, they werent unbeatable, if you played smart and built a proper army with proper tools for the job, you could win just fine ive seen plenty enough games of it happening. and custodes only were that strong if you came in prepared with all your buffs and played right. even then, they never were absolute top. you still have armies like the necrons and yet some reason aside from a simple points nerf, theyve done NOTHING to them. i think alot of people like to complain about custodes because they are an army that people have to actually THINK and cant just yolo against. every army has PLENTY of tools to take down tanky infantry like custodes, this is like complaining about terminators being OP yet no one does. custodes are just basically an army of terminators as they are just as expensive if not MORE expensive. just like anything though, if you know what youre fighting against, and how to deal with them, they arent that bad.

This post did not go the way i had wished.

I dobt understand how gazghul can ride in a pile of s-crap but cawl cant even hop in a taxi -.-

@passchen-fail3704

29 күн бұрын

Because a battle wagon is bigger than that cyberpunk wannabe army landing craft the AdMech use and Cawl is about as big as Ghaz and bigger than the hover taxi.

Wait so Custodes basically got nothing... Lovely.

Cant wait for all the Custodes to cry about them not having changes while telling admech that they "should let their codex cook"

Ah. An opportunity to fix the custodes, lets make sure they Auric champions is definitely not a good detachment. Some potential for deep strike shenanigans? Nope, cant let them do that. Joining multiple units together for somethjng could actually be cool? No way, if twe do that then people might actually want to use that detachment! I wonder if there is any other nerfs they can drop on the Custodes, their hatred for the faction is real.

I think GW is making Imperium units bad on purpose. Very Xenos and Chaos heavy edition. Iron Warriors just got -1 to wound army wide. Emperor's Children are getting a codex. Etc.

Luckily they nerfed custodes they were so rampart

The argument and ruling that ghaz couldnt fit in the battlewagon even though it was the only vehicle that didnt say "NO GHAZ ALLOOOWD" has been the most braindead things I have seen

I’m a newbie so I don’t know the full history, but are custodes really that weak? They have great saves, lots of wounds and also awesome abilities. I struggle to do damage against them and without devastating wounds on a couple of characters I don’t think I’d do significant damage against my buddy. (Granted I’m playing as dark angels). Is there something I’m missing?

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

Dev wounds are a readily present silver-bullet that sweeps through all their saves. They've always been plenty lethal, it's the fact that they are more melee than range, aren't amazingly fast save bikes which are pricey, and all those supposed durability buffs surprisingly don't amount to much based on their PPM.

@buttmunchmcnugget328

Ай бұрын

I think, and it seriously is just a guess based off of what i hear Custodes players grumble about, the army has an issue being too elite. When you end up fielding half as many(or possibly less) Units then your opponent, sometimes it dosent matter how strong they are if they get swarmed and doubled or tripled with OC that could take them two turns to eat through. I think its their ability to score points that maybe puts them in a rough spot. *and it dosent seem like the codex resolved that issue is peoples big issue, id guess.

@joshsmith1179

Ай бұрын

Devastating wounds bypass all their saves so essentially, RAW, Devastating wounds are mortals. They used to have a save against mortals then GW took it away. As much as I feel sorry for Admech and DW players, Custodes have had the worst roller coaster ride this edition.

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

@@joshsmith1179 well yes, obviously. A Rollercoaster has ups and downs. Admech and DW have been a flat line... at the bottom.

@aliywafiy

Ай бұрын

Easy way to kill custodes. Grenades and tank shock

Look obviously anyone that had anything to do with the custodes codex should be fired and literally a walk of shame. Possibly throwing tomatoes at them for how bad this was lol. As for it being 6 months before so they wouldn't have known nonsense. First thing, then why the changes to the axes? Like they didn't know this prior? You have got to be an idiot not to see how bad they were. Just look at the rules and read the codex and you can see how terrible the WHOLE, codex is , even layout. The only good thing in this book is the cover. And they didn't know about the mortals/devastating changes, great...the LITERALLY could have done that in this errata....and they didn't. They should publicly fire the people in charge of this codex and issue an apology, that's how bad this book is in general. The stories, the layout, the rules, like everything is terrible in this book. And people from this company said, yes this is solid!!. Like wtf, goes to show you they DON'T PLAY TEST SHITE!!!!.

GW's rules make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I look forward to the future day that someone on the inside will tell us why this is the way it is.