Good video! Thanks for the kind word and honest opinion on all those bots :)

@MalignSociety

Жыл бұрын

You've made a mean printer.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! There are two types of 3D printer developers: 1) Those who ask "What is possible" 2) Those who ask "What can we get away with" You are definitely in type 1, as are most people passionate about making good printers! There are a lot of companies in type 2.

As a pensioner I'm looking for the cheapest one i wouldn't throw off a balcony

@poepflater

10 ай бұрын

I found an old discontinued Flashforge Finder 1 for about $130, great little printer if limited in abilities. But super nice prints

When you cant work out if he is serious or shitposting on KZread.

Thanks for the video man. Convinced me to begin upgrading my recently bought tronxy into a vzbot. Really neat project.

I bought the K1 with the $200 off coupon from Micro Center. At that price point and with the newest extruder, hot end and a couple of convenience mods (270 deg, door (must print!), side spool holder, and lid riser), it has been producing fast, quality prints and as you said, keeping level. Still looking for a price/value 300x300 bed size core xy to replace my trusty ol' highly modded CR-10.

thanks for the video. I have two enders 3. Im just sick of keeping them going. A few tens of kg of the material printed and I dont want to deal with them anymore. This video help me to choose a next one. Probably P1S or K1max or let see if something new will come before christmas.

The positron was built to fit into a standard 1kg filament box. In my opinion any compromise that has to be made to achieve that is acceptable, because if someone told me a printer could fit in such a small space before I saw it I wouldn’t believe them. The upside downess doesn’t even impact print quality. In fact bridges are supposedly even better. It’s only problems are a lack of a decent kit, the fact it’s Bowden, and no auto Z offset capability which is nearly standard on Vorons.

Lol I wound out in the Clone Trooper area ! The Ender Series :( ZZZZZ Great Tier List it will point me in the right direction, thanks for sharing

You don't like Delta printers? UNSUB! You have lost all the little respect that you had. I certainly hope JJ likes Delta printers. I should have known, when you added syrup to your coffee. Heathen!

@cpasoft

Жыл бұрын

I've put the Delta printers on tier C because potatoes (a Spanish expression than means "because reasons" but more ironical) ... Loool...

What Happens to D Tier Printers: kzread.infoodkKVIZItZA?feature=share

@XHolyPuffX

5 ай бұрын

I'm fucking dead bro 😂

I use a 3D pen like a welder for 3D printed parts, love it for that. Much better than products sold as 'plastic welders', which are basically soldering irons.

Surprisingly don't see the Kingroon KP3S Pro S1 which you used few days back. Balcony? Flawed? Good ? S tier?

My p1s I got a week ago has been a nightmare, I couldn’t get a single good print out of it, it just got clogged, made bubbly, holey messes and after cleaning the plastic of the nozzle, it wouldn’t regulate the heat to the nozzle anymore so now it just won’t print at all. Worst 1500$ I’ve ever spent. My friend says it might work if I add some new thermal paste but I don’t see any reason to believe it’s not going to keep making my life miserable.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

The good thing about it is that it just works 95% of the time. The bad thing is, when it breaks it’s quite a bit trickier to fix, and support can be difficult to find. It’s a more complex machine than the old style bedslingers. Add to that, the bambu lab community tends to dogpile anyone who complains about quality or reliability.

@BeefIngot

11 ай бұрын

Firstly that's not even the price of one. Secondly, there are 2 free spare hotend in the box, why wouldn't your first move be to swap them out in 2 minutes? Lastly, in case these weird descrepencies are real, because I do acknowledge every product has lemons, you must realize that every product has lemons. That being said, if your only issue is you got a clogged nozzle and the fix is already in the box and 2 screws and a connector away , is that really a valid reason to trash a printer when just about every printer ever can jam and this one has a design less likely to jam with the uni body hotend?

@SwervingLemon

5 ай бұрын

​@@BeefIngot949 plus tax and shipping and any add-ons could easily get him into the 1500 price range. The one I just saw had only one spare hotend. Your criticims might be valid, if they weren't marketing this thing as the "it just works" printer for newbies. Their QC/QA isn't great, and their support is a serious weak point. Having said that, the quality and speed of print that I just saw out of one left me stunned. Genuinely shocked.

Lol, why does Nathan always look like he just woke up? j/k man love the channel!

@dangerous8333

Жыл бұрын

Haha, so true. I love that about him actually.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

Day in the life of a KZreadr (this is more accurate than I care to admit) kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqRmkrSYdtubo9I.html

Ordered the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro, like the all metal guide rails. i'm excited to get started printing with it!

WORTH A WATCH TO A QUICK ROUNDUP OF ALL 3D PRINTERS TO DATE 2023

Thanks. What a great job. In not sure what should I get for 500. Should I buy an mk3s+ or an ender 3 se?

@NathanBuildsRobots

11 ай бұрын

SE in my opinion

I NEED AN URGENT ANSWER! I pre-ordered the Ender 3 V3 SE a few days ago. The printer will reach me on September 25-30. Before ordering this printer, I was planning to buy the "Eleego Neptune 4/3 Pro" printer because its price seemed excellent compared to its competitors. The thing that kept me from buying Eleego Neptune 4/3 Pro was that users on the internet had a lot of problems, but for some reason it made more sense to buy now. Do you think I should return the Ender 3 V3 SE I bought?

@NathanBuildsRobots

11 ай бұрын

Ender 3 V3 is a great printer, especially for a first printer. Don’t sweat it!

I recently purchased an Ender 5S1. I was disappointed at first, but after adding a Sonic Pad it is much better. Going for the K1 Max next.

@Staffii1

8 ай бұрын

S1 is better than the K1 Max.

Can you tell me what software are you using (drag and drop) ?

Will there be a review of the Mingda X2? Or is it already is pieces after landing in the street?

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

They offered to send me a 2nd one... So We'll see

I’m looking to buy my first 3D printer. You said you prefer Elegoo Neptune 4 instead of the pro version because is it quieter. 4 is $300 and 4 pro is $400 including tax in Turkey. Would you say the pro isn’t worth it for the extra $100?

@NathanBuildsRobots

11 ай бұрын

Yes, pro version does not offer any real speed increase. It just uses metal wheels that are more proprietary and probably louder

@TBerq

11 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots Thanks. Would I have any problem with the wheel being propreitary? I wasn’t able to find many retailers that sell 3D printer parts and the ones that do are expensive. Maybe I should look into buying cheap parts from China. I was thinking of making a small business out of 3D printing. I’ve been researching a lot and think this is the best machine for me to buy right now. Do you think it’s worth to wait for Creality Ender 3 V3 SE?

Great video! Thinking of getting a P1s. Who needs the AMS? I want to print model airplane parts and woodworking tools. Would I miss it if I didn’t get it? This will be my first printer.

@NathanBuildsRobots

10 ай бұрын

Some people really like the AMS. But if you are just making functional items with no color changes, I think it would be easier to go without it, and pick one up later if you decide you need it

@ThinkHarderPlz

10 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobotsThanks for the response! Would you choose the P1S over the Qidi X+ 3 or the Creality K1? I like that they are bigger but from what I understand the P1S prints higher quality.

It's flying bear after all, right... RIGHT?

I’d love to see your opinion on the new Bambu labs A1 mini coming out soon

What about the Elegoo 3 Pro and the Neptune 4 Pro

Could you do a list where you only consider print quality and speed and not adjust for price.

Your statement that no-one likes delta printers is inaccurate although I think it was made in jest, I love delta printers and I know many other people do, if no one liked delta printers why hasn't FL Sun stopped making them and jumped on the i3 bandwagon?

@NM-wd7kx

Жыл бұрын

Didn't flsun start with an i3 clone? If anything that leans into your point though

+1 on the Ender 2 pro - I had the parts from TH3D so I just swapped out the main board for an EZ-board (yeah I had to make adapter cables), added EZ ABL and flex plate and upgraded the power supply to a Meanwell and a metal extruder. It sits on my desk for protos and also to take with me if I need to make a practical print on demand. I wanted it to be bullet-proof and reliable and it is. The prints are high quality every time.

great video!

How about arranging each level according to MSRP?

I'd love to see a Nathan with an F boi look not someone who looks like they just woke up 😂😂

Just a thought here, your videos had a lot more sensible content just 6 months ago. Now there are tons of videos with not that much real content. Happy to see that channel has grown, but maybe quality is fluctuating a bit...?

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

KZread wants the content train to go Chooo choooooooooooo

Ok I had to step up to defend the position because your rating there was just devistatingly unfair to such amazing enginuity. Its upside down for many reasons. 1. It's designed to be as small as possible, having it upside down means you don't need a cube to support the opposite side from the print head saving space. 2. It let's you still get a view of the first layer through the bed which is awesome. 3. It gets literally the best bridging you've ever seen because gravity is in your side when youre upside down. 4. The moving mass is closer to the bae meaning it's one of the most stable designs possible, short of drilling your printer directly into concrete. 5. Just look at the damn thing!!! Can you believe one college dude designed that? Freaking amazing!

@themechanic6151

9 ай бұрын

what are you talking about my guy?

@BeefIngot

9 ай бұрын

@@themechanic6151 Did you watch the video? The Positron.

@themechanic6151

9 ай бұрын

@@BeefIngot oh I see now, you said position earlier so it confused me. I watched a video on it. That thing is sick

@BeefIngot

9 ай бұрын

@@themechanic6151 You now see why I called this man out on his absolute slander of my poor boy.

How about Lerdge ix? It's the only printer which doesn't need a computer to do any setting on it. That must be worth being on a board

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

I had firmware issues on the first Lerdge product I tested. It would immediately set the hotend to 200C upon powering it on...

The P1P is an excellent printer that is currently $599. At that price point, the quality of the prints without modifications, the availability of modifications both for sale and that can be user created and the apps that give users control without requiring genius or professional levels, the P1P kicks everyone else's butt at that price point. The Prusa MK4 is way too expensive for a bed slinger. BTW I have a a MK4 on order so I can complain about spending too much for a bed slinger.

@astrakartoffel4676

10 ай бұрын

The P1P is amazing, but i see no reason to get the P1P over the P1S because its only 100 bucks more expensive, u got like almost the same enclosure as the X1 even with the carbon filter

Ender 3 S1 Plus? 300x300? 150mm speed and 300C?

No bullshit review, excellent.🎉

Enders are CR-10 clones, not the other way around. CR-10 was the game changing printer from creality, far more than the Ender. The ender was just a cheaper smaller version of the CR-10. I have the original CR-10 and It prints just as high quality as the Bambu X1C we have where I work (just a lot slower). Now the CR-10 models you show are boring, not because of the Ender series, just because they did not really improve on the CR-10 in a large way, and they are bed slingers, and you can say any bed slinger is boring at this point.

@rmfberry261

Жыл бұрын

i was questioning myself i swore the cr10 was out first.

@channelnotfound403

10 ай бұрын

But didn't the Ender 3 start out as a all in one printer? Cause I know the CR-10 didn't start that way, with the huge box sitting at the side. That's probably one of the reason why it gets it own tier and not considered a clone.

@f1hotrod527

10 ай бұрын

@@channelnotfound403 yes the cr-10 does have the separate control box and it is one thing I don’t like about mine. I still think the CR-10 was the printer that put Creality on the map and was more of a pioneer than Ender. The aluminum construction with V wheels was brought my the CR-10.

to be honest ive used the formlabs printer at work and I think of it as the prusa of resin printing since it just works.

What about the boron nitride tier?

Subbed!! Just for the trolls! Lmao

im gonna be totally honest i came here to see where my first and only printer the anycubic kobra 2 now upgraded to anycubic kobra 2 pro ranked and i totally agree with your ranking i am now writing this comment and dipping thanks for putting my printer where it rightfully belongs

In my country , the ender 5 s1 is the same price of ankermake m5 Which one do you recommend?

@BeefIngot

11 ай бұрын

Gotta be honest, I hate both, but would go with the creality. Why? They have more spares and support(from the community) availibe.Anker doesn't look like they are fully devoted to staying in this business. Also look up the eufy security disaster .

@Mrt1516

11 ай бұрын

@@BeefIngot hi, thanks for your reply, i purchased the Elegoo neptune 3 pro, and looks awesome for now

I can't decide between the KE and the K1! Both at a reasonable price. The K1 is a corexy but it means it's more complex to mess around with and I also read it makes more noise..

Epic troll video. 😂

Bought an Ender 3 V3. Great hardware. Software sucks... So hard. PLEASE someone create a klipper or MriscoC config for the E3V3. :)

Gotva ender 3 V2 for 100$ did the Cr touch mod and. Changed the bed springs ,Bowden tube and extruder for 60$ I believe it was a good purchase because I'm a beginner

I got a Kingroon KLP1 two weeks ago and it's one of the worst printers i have owned so far. Corexy and those speeds/specs sound great at the price, but their Klipper configs are horrible and their cura profile is completely useless, they basicly just cranked everything up to max and even after hours and hours i can't get a decent pressure advance result. The built quality and overall parts are great, at least the V2 version with the all metal hotend, but aside from that it is basicly useless unless you completely start over from scratch with klipper and cura.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

That's not the end of the world, if it just needs some slicer and klipper tuning that is completely fixable via an over the air update, or by rolling community improvements back into the design.

@kwedl

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots Sadly i have my doubts about community improvements, there are almost no reviews about it, not even the V1 version which has been out for months and you almost can't find any redidt or forum posts about it. And Kingroon customer service is basicly non existent. I emailed them for multiple weeks now and tried to reach them via their site or social media, but no replies.

@03Cmanu

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots , i've got a klp1 too , two days of use and the part fan died , 3 days and it was the THR board , they send me a new one and there was communication error between the thr and the motherboard.They send me another THR and a new motherboard. Same problem. The heated bed support was twisted, the belts almost impossible to tighten without disassembling. And I'm not the only one. Now after many hours of test it seems to work well , i had to modify the steppers current because i think they set them too high and it causes the communications trouble. I'm also waiting for the printhead of the V2 they promise me. And now i use orca slcier , much better than cura. They released an emergency V2 like for the KP3S pro v2 which also had a lot of problems. So don't buy if you want a reliable printer.

Please help me! which one should i buy: Kobra 2 pro, or Neptun 4 pro

@NathanBuildsRobots

10 ай бұрын

I’d go neptune

@adameq10

10 ай бұрын

Mate, can i plug any USB internet camera via build in USB port to this printer? ;)

@ImSoMagic

9 ай бұрын

Almost any camera yes, take something compatible with Linux

can you recommend some good upgrades for neptune 3 plus?

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

Cht nozzle probably

How about adding the some of the printers from Lulzbot?

Ultimaker: for when you want Ender 3 quality at Prusa XL pricing.

@BeefIngot

11 ай бұрын

Lol, but really though, theyrre for a different audience. That audience wants the air filter and filament station and filament rack and employee training. Too that audience, 500 bucks vs 5000 bucks is no difference.

The Ender3 S1 Pro is Excellent. I have a bunch of them. I run ABS around the clock. 24/7. Zero Problems. Need to manually level about once a month. Then it's just, print, print, print.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes boring printer is a good thing 😃

What about that smaller cheaper Qidi X-smart 3? It's price is very compelling.

What do you think of flashforge adventurer 3

@sierraecho884

8 ай бұрын

It´s a bad printer, really bad review overall. I got the Adventurer 5M instead.

Bought my first printer (Neptune 4) without much knowledge about them and seems I made the right choice

No MakerGear Ultra One?

where is ender 3 neo rank?

I'm just at the stage of choosing my first fdm printer. I've only used resin printers so far. I'm thinking about something not too expensive, but so that I don't regret it right away. Maybe someone can help me choose. In my country, of those that caught my eye, the ender 3 v3 se and neptune 4 are at a similar price. Prusa mini is almost twice as expensive. Can you recommend something else under $500?

@NathanBuildsRobots

11 ай бұрын

Wait 2 weeks ;)

@kostek83

11 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots thers something one the horizon ?

@kostek83

11 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots so its something worth waiting for coming? Im really new to fdm printing so im not up to date with news

@raphofthehills4405

10 ай бұрын

@@kostek83 I think he is refering to the Bambu A1 mini. $300 base, $450 with AMS.

lk5 24:45 I'd add that it's a single z motor drive as well. Way better out there for less money now.

Hello thanks for video, can you help if something change after one year later? I do not own printer in this moment, I'm crafter-man, mostly i would like to print for me and my kids, figures, toys, inserts for Boardgames (here i would like to have possibility print logos in color), boxes, wall organizers, utilities, enhancers etc. What Im thinking about: 1. Bambu lab A1 with AMS (499 EURO) ++++ price + multicolor - missing enclosure/ not build well for DIY enclosure 2. Bambu lab P1S (AMS later but price of AMS itself is huge in comparisons P1S combo) (600 Euro or 850 Euro with AMS +- price + enclosure, cooling, air filters + AMS with closed environment and protections from humidity - price of AMS if is not in combo purchase Price difference between P1P and P1S is to small (40 EURO), to miss inbuild cooling system and air filter already builded 3. Creality K1 MAX AI (634 EURO) ++ price + enclosure +++ volume --- no chance of multicolor (at the moment, later price of CMS? Price of upgrade for CMS? Maybe to much…) 4. Prusa MK4 kit + MMU3 kit (unfortunally price is to high for me at the moment) What I do not like on AMS (CMS as well) is amount of waste. To be honest approach of MMU3 from Prusa is much better, would like have possibility use it on bambu or creality printer... This is for me big deal breaker, and reason why I hesitate. It is not so big to say "ok go for K1 or P1S without AMS" and it is not so small, to say "Ok go for A1 or P1S with AMS" Any recommendation which one buy? And why, considering the points I mentioned? is it worth build enclosure for A1? is it worth build own enclosure for P1P? is it worth AMS or is only "hype"? Is PVA good for supports? is PVA safe for environment (no microplastic fibers getting into ground/water)? I will be glad for any suggestion. Thank you

"When you have a longer tube, you end up with more friction." 🤣💀🤣

@NathanBuildsRobots

5 ай бұрын

It's not absolutely true. But it's mostly true.

Try the latest firmware update on the K1 Max, it has improved the first layer.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

I heard it was bricking some ppl's printers... Or was that a different update?

Is anyone using Two Trees models? I use SP 3 and SP5 and are good out of the box. And amazing with a few mods. The structure is very solid.

Which software did you use for that grid with drag and drop?

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

Link in description (my patreon explains) :3

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

Paywall microtransaction KZreadr Meta

This is not just a Teir list. but a quick round up review of all the 3D printers or a buyers guide if buying a 3d printer in 2023. So i would say its the most update all round very, very quick to the point review of ALL THE 3D printers out. So the video has double value for those new to 3d printers and are overwhelmed. Did i mention his a engineer too :). This prob is the best most update video round up of all 3D printers to date WATCH IT if new or want an update to 3D printers. OR else did i mention his an engineer lol

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

"Trust me, I'm an engineer" It works in every situation

@bliska8434

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots based on your statements in this video, I question your engineering credentials. Engineers can tell the difference between accessories and printers... AMS and Sonic Pad/clone on a printer list, janky printers in S-tier with Vorons. RatRig, Prusa Mk4 and an ender clone as "Average". Having personally used the majority of these printers, your list lacks education.

@MalignSociety

Жыл бұрын

Nathan only missed 6 or 7 times.@@bliska8434

@dexxeve9420

Жыл бұрын

@@bliska8434 SLAP!!

@Rob-vt1mz

8 ай бұрын

I agree 100% it's overwhelming doing research. I'm a first time buyer with a $200-$300 budget for Black Friday 2023 on Amazon, I'm in the market for a 3D printer suitable for my diverse hobbies, including woodworking and fish keeping (4' tank), RC Airplanes, quads. At this price range, I'm trying to balance equipment quality with bed size. Top of entry level price point & bottom of mid range price point is a bit of a pain. Majority at my flying field have enders. (one guy with a 3d printed zero. Very nice) A couple guys with higher end models. While many recommend Ender printers, I'm wary of their common issues and the need for extensive modding. I'm not worried about the skill to mod but more the time for it. I'm willing to invest in a higher-quality printer within my budget and explore firmware options like Klipper and Orca. Nathan's videos have been helpfull in my research. Majority of others I've seen are more like adcopy. Working on getting my list down to the top 3 or 4 now and Q'n up the wishlist for tomorrow.

I will sell the CR10 V3 because I'm tired with the extruder and also it's heavy for me. I will throw from the balcony... I changed the motor and the extruder and still no working well. The motor skips steps and it provocates constantly clogs but, when It works, it's a great machine. I have my two Ender 3 that I will never sell them and yes... I know that they're a boring 3D printers despite that there are already more fast machines but the maintenance cost is the lowest than the K1. The K1 I'm having bad experience with customer services... The machine is OK but, as you say, the extruder was causing the majority of the problem but also has overheat problems on the conector of the camera from the motherboard. When the motherboard gets hot, the camera dies... So I had to install a Yihome camera to know what's happening on the K1 meanwhile is printing. On the last firmware update from the K1, the printer got frozen and remained with the hotend and the bed hot meanwhile I was outside when, for my opinion, was a great fire risk because it there was an error, it should be turn off everything until I come back home. At this moment I'm building a Voron 0.2 and I'm having fun and learning a lot about everything, but I bought it before summer holidays and I builded the half of the printer. On the future I'm thinking to buy a Prusa MK4 to replace the CR10 V3 because the big one is overprice for me and quite heavy. I know that the Prusa has less volume print surface but I use the CR10 V3 a few times. Greetings from Spain.

I would like to see a review of Formon core

Haven't they sent you the Kingroon KLP1 to review?

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

No. They are afraid

@salvatoree.2109

Жыл бұрын

Maybe I still have time to cancel my pre-order then 😂

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

🫴

32:44 the 100, a fork of the rook for speed printing is also worth mentioning (never mind, you did :) )

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

:P

What about a JG Maker Artist D and Artist D Pro?

Printing this out after joining Patreon, absolutely spot on with your choices, Fantastic video which needs regular updates.

I regret purchasing a Prusa MK3S. I agree with your rating. It costs too much. The print quality is ok. The stock cooling isn't very good. Their customer service is fantastic though.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

1 year ago, it’s be an A. Now, it’s more like a B, even with the MK4 upgrade, which is a little underwhelming

@lucase764

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots I probably shouldn't be so hard on the MK3S. There are things I like about it.

@dme2453

Жыл бұрын

My MK3S turns out some amazing prints. I’ve been afraid to upgrade it.

Your next video should on the best machines to be ugraded. What's the cheapest path to a top tier machine?

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

I like the neptune 4 because it is essentially a fully upgraded Ender 3. Better part cooling, higher flow nozzle, klipper, dual z axis, ABL, direct drive extruder, all metal hotend, etc etc etc. So that would be the cheapest option. Additional upgrades could be added if you feel it needs some. Cheapest option for an enclosed printer is probably flying bear ghost 6 on Klipper. I have a hunch that the Ghost 7 may come stock with klipper, which would be awesome.

@BeefIngot

11 ай бұрын

Strong opinion: The answer is no printer. It's never worth your time to buy a crappy printer then upgrade it. You're way better off just buying a better one from the get go. If I had a gun to my head though, I'd say a Vezbot. Easy enough to mod, and clearly an enthusiast printer.

Comprehensive spreadsheet. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

Debating if i should get the qidi tech X-max 3 or the K1 max

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

I am working on a X-Plus-3 review right now. X-Max is probably a solid machine. But in the video I will do a rundown of the X-Plus vs K1-Max, and it should give you a pretty good idea of K1 Max vs X-Plus-Max since the X-Plus and X-Max are so similar.

@JoshBudLight

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots Awesome, I look forward to it!

I love my V-Core 3. Fantastic printer

The Ender 2 Pro is selling for $125.30 right now. It has a 165 x 165 x 180mm build. It has 4 leveling knobs. you have it on the very good printer's level. I'm amazed. If it is almost worth buying for a novelty to put on the shelf, but I have doubts that it should be on the very good printer's level. I would love to see you justify that.

@reasonablebeing5392

9 ай бұрын

See my other comment - this one is not a novelty but the most portable printer I own and great for protos - I have taken it with me to print practical prints real time. And good quality prints. Very good in my book.

Have you reviewed any multi color printers?

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

No, I have an AMS that I need to try out though. And I am trying to get an IDEX in for review

@mamatuja

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots I built a 3 color single nazzle Delta. I wish I could show it or some prints to you.😁

The upside down design makes the positron compact and the belts make it insanely fast

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

I still don’t understand. Was it designed by an Australian or something?

@soapy5343

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots the design means it doesn't need arms on the side, allowing it to fit inside a filament box

@soapy5343

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if you've seen this but the video sums up the design kzread.info/dash/bejne/ipOFrtqNhtffnso.html

The Prusa XL is too expensive and not enclosed by default, so I'd definitely say it is flawed.

@xXKisskerXx

11 ай бұрын

its enclosure.. is a bag. For that price.. at least a basic enclosure where each wall is 2 layers of thin aluminum with a insulating barrier in between would be more in the rage for the cost... I mean.. they are charging enough for it.

Did you forget the Flashforge Adventurer 5M / 5M Pro ? It´s not a great printer since the Firmware is locked, however it´s the cheapest quality Core XY I could buy for 400€. The Bamu Lab P1P cost 650€ and the K1 430€. I also love the nozzle swap, even thou the hotend cost 25€ but I won´t need them regulary anyway, I still use the same Nozzle on my current 3D Printer from 2019.

I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on the X Max 3, especially compared to the bambu offerings. I have read reports of heat beds being warped a fair bit despite the 6mm thickness, some concerns of the hot end fan and the psu for the chamber heating element being undersized. Have you used industrial 3d printers such as stratasys or comparable ultra expensive machines, do they have any appreciable improvements over the hobbyist grade? I appreciate the brutal honesty and unassuming nature of your work, especially as a legitimate degreed engineer.

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

TY, I have used Stratasys machines. They can still have failures, but overall they are optimized for quality and reliability, and ability to print high-grade materials. The cost increase is massive though. You're talking 20x-100x more expensive to run than a hobby machine. Will be checking out the X-Max 3 soon

@alexfeatherstone6676

Жыл бұрын

X-plus 3 had the heat chamber warping issue, the xmax3 is built to a higher quality and larger. It doesn't have the issue that the x-plus 3 has

The ender 2 really do very well

Does it list the Flyingbear Revision 2 with auto leveling and PEI, agg klipper

11:34 - "They're probably gonna make an Elegoo Neptune 4 Max" YES! That's the printer I'm waiting for. A reliable and easy to maintain bed slinger, with steel rails, Klipper and a large print volume.

@MrBaskins2010

Жыл бұрын

damn i was just gonna buy a refurb Sovol SV06 MAX but imma just wait for elegoo's next mixtape lol

@Liberty4Ever

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrBaskins2010 - The curse of technology. Newer and better stuff is coming. If we wait for it, we won't enjoy the current newer and better stuff, and there's always something newer and better. It's inevitable that larger format Klipper bed slingers are coming. Manufacturers almost always release new technology on a 220 mm machine then follow up with a 300 mm machine. Hopefully, this time, they'll max out the larger and slightly more expensive machines with all of the features we want such as WiFi, UBS port instead of micro SD, steel-on-steel motion control instead of acetyl V rollers, etc. I expect this goodness in a couple of months or less.

Prusa mini with a not all metal hotend in current year still missing featured they promised years ago, taking up very similar space to a mk3 while not having much build volume, having notorious ender 3 like ptfe tube lineup issues, a price you could get a neptune 4 for.... I personally think it's absolutely nowhere near s tier. It want even s tier when it came out imo

Using Kobra2 I can say that it should go to C-tier. The metal rails and metal gears is a fail - the printer CAN print fast but you don't want to be in the same room- the whole frame is resonating and it's a pain hearing it running. And you can find a lot of people complaining for the same issues. Yes, it's more durable than rubber V-wheels in the extrusion slots, but it just doesn't work...

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

I’m reviewing it now,m and editing the video, completely agree. This thing is not a standout in any way, just another boarding Ender 3 clone, albeit with some interesting features

Cool!

@NathanBuildsRobots

Жыл бұрын

Mingda

@SPG_ADR13N

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots It should definitely be 1sT Tier! Also excluding the price is the X1C really worse than the P1S? Like is it slightly better?

I'm struggling with Prusa mini - after a while it gets unfixable underextrusion. PTFE tube in the heatbreak needs to be replaced from time to time, but the original one is way to expensive - and it's impossible to get a right size if you cut one yourself. But even if you do replacement with a proper one - still something just constantly blocks the heatbreak and you get underextrusion. Bowden is generally bad - direct extruders are clearly superior. And PrusaLink is just bad. The whole nonsense with putting WiFi credentials on a USB stick and then having to save the API key (and the login form is made in such a way that browser doesn't recognize it as such, and doesn't propose to store the API key as a password) - for having little to no control over printing anyway... bad, just bad.

What about the sunlu printers

What about ELEGOO?

This was perfect! Should do this every quarter and update! Thank you!

@Kipitrl

Жыл бұрын

My list of printers even though I'm a noob to all this. Longer LK4 Pro Longer LK5 Pro Creality ender 3 v2 neo Creality ender 3 s1 plus Anycubic Kobra Neo Anycubic Kobra Max bummed when I saw where this one placed. Looking forward to the new Ender and one day once I figure all this out the P1S. Looking at the Neptune 4 as well 😀

the 2.4 is the big brother to the trident, and i have to disagree with putting the mini+ in with likes of vzbot and trident

@dangerous8333

Жыл бұрын

Big brother in what regard? All I know is that I would much rather build a Trident than a 2.4.

@DezoTuts

Жыл бұрын

@@dangerous8333 in regards to it being voron version 2 and trident being 1. it came after the development of the trident, its so much more popular than the trident. its a more complex build... bigger brother in almost every way. i built a trident for the speed capability i dont feel like the 2.4 has a rigid enough gantry for higher speeds being thats its hanging. most people build whats new and thats why there are so many more 2.4s than tridents

All my printers are ZZZ tier except my Ender 2. LOL I love it!

just subbscribed..cool channel..may i ask you a feedback cause m struggling wich choise is bettere between k1max quidi xmax3 and a p1s with ams....in term of quality that is my first goal...the others ar more usable cause are bigger but the ams is phenomenal to have.....m so confuse... thanks so much for your time and anyone else want to join this comment ;) cheers from italy

Sooo, where is the link to the tier list ??????

@maxharnisch314

Жыл бұрын

Oops, seen it now.

The Neptune 4 and SV07 are ten dollars in difference right now, so for $269 you can get the Sv07 with wifi functionality. There has also been some talk of a possible SV07 Plus with a larger print area coming out sometime this year.

@lun7n

11 ай бұрын

People have a lot of problems with the sv07. Also, both the Neptune 4 and sv07 are heavily flawed having v rollers with such high speed capacity.

@BeefIngot

11 ай бұрын

@@lun7n I just want to take the time to join you in hating vrollers. They're just such an awful motion system. Bad wear and tear, unpredictable and worse than normal precision,the ability to get flat spots by sitting for awhile , gunning up other components with the rubber dust for no positive tradeoff and the list goes on and on. I hate that it became the standard for cheap printers.

You rank the K1 above the P1P? What. Also the P1S is S tier over the P1P when they are nearly the same printer but had an enclosure but 90% of the people only print in pla or maybe petg which both print the same.