2:10 "A minute of horse at five meters" ROFLMFAO 🤣🤣🤣

"A cat sneeze loading" is probably my favorite turn of phrase I've heard this week!

Loud noice and no recoil? Perfect for making neighbors mad 😂

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

Like a very loud abnoxious cork pop gun

I remember seeing plastic skirted .38 projectiles in the 90s that were powered by a pistol primer.

Are we about to see a surge of parlour pistols in .58?

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

.58 is for kids and cadets. These are 0.69"

@g6otu

14 күн бұрын

@@thebotrchap whats that about 14 bore? I thought. 577 boxer was large.

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

@@g6otu Pretty much, 12 bore if being generous

@g6otu

14 күн бұрын

@@thebotrchap imagine that in a pepperbox!

@WhatIfBrigade

12 күн бұрын

@@thebotrchap I'm pretty sure if there will ever be a modern resurgence of popularity, .69 will be the caliber! 🤣

Hot work in the Swiss jungle judging by the range filming.

In regards to digging out bits of a stuck plastic bullet discussed early on in the vid: PLA really softens up in Ethyl Acetate (often sold as MEK/Methyl Ethyl Ketone Substitute). If you want to full dissolve it, Chloroform works fairly well, and Dicloromethane is king (but also highly dangerous, anything here should be used in a well ventilated area anyways). If I were you I'd see if ABS is an option, harder to print, but better impact resistance and that than PLA and it easily dissolves in acetone. I personally would also like to see PETG rounds attempted since it has much better impact resistance than PLA and I think feels better to handle. It'll dissolve with toluene (found in most paint thinners).

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

Thanks for the info. Seeing how unscathed they are I might see how hard I can drive them before failure. As I mentioned, I have nothing to do with the product or it's development, I just bought a handful online.

@PendragonDaGreat

14 күн бұрын

@@thebotrchap Fair, if you ever get your own 3D printer (highly reccomend, I love mine) something like this looks like a really fast print, as well as easy to model in CAD.

@webtoedman

14 күн бұрын

I used to work with the aforementioned solvents. I am now several metres of bowel, one kidney and half a bladder short. Proceed with caution.

@onpsxmember

14 күн бұрын

@@webtoedman How did it come to this? All cancer over long term exposure?

@webtoedman

13 күн бұрын

@@onpsxmember Safety standards were not as rigorous forty years ago. Occasional exposure probably won't hurt, but I wouldn't recommend daily use, that's for sure.

I remember a guy on k years ago was developing and test firing their 577 snider with 3d printed cases. It was a neat project and they seemed successful

A minute of horse. I’m going to use that one now…

What a cool idea

Great to see you again chappie, always love your presentstions!

I am simultaneously fascinated and appalled.

I am surprised the pistol and the musketoon actually had rifling instead of being smooth bores. Interesting experiment.

Chappie with the anxiety on the first trigger pull haha like when i shoot my frst reloaded cartridges. Its scary because you never know hehe

Chap, I don't know if you have ever tuned a bow, but shooting through paper might help. Just set your target (a BIG one) at say 10 meters, then hang a page of news paper at 4, 6, & 8 Meters and shoot through them. from the holes you might be able to learn all sorts of neat things. Is it stable (Round holes), Tumbling (key holes) running out of energy (the holes drop) Over powered (the holes rise) all for the price of a Sunday paper

That is a very long ram rod there for a pistol...

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

I'm lazy, one ramrod fits all 😅

@MichaelJohnson-tw7dq

13 күн бұрын

That’s what she said

Reminds me of the few places ive seen where people made hot glue bullets and would just fire them with primers only.

I love yhe Parlour pistol/rifle concept. Ive tried a whole pile of calibers in different materials. My favorite is and old Spanish 1924 .32-20 revolver loaded with a wood slug cartridge. So much fun.

Our range has a linatex curtain in front of steel back stop. Sometimes a slow lead ball comes back. Those would be even more fun

Ooh now that's interesting. Seems like a crazy concept but kinda makes sense, and if you already have a printer then pretty cheap

Slightly different scenario (smoothbore and separation from the powder by a nitro card and a fibre wad) but I have had good success with 3D printed tail wads for Lee Key Slugs in PLA in my S1 shotgun and have had no issue with the PLA fouling the barrel. Full power loads too.

Ye Olde Riot Control

@tomhenry897

13 күн бұрын

Didn’t Napoleon use grapshot for riot control

I am sort of surprised the PLA survived that. (and yes i would have used red or another bright colour that will not be common in the area you are going to look for it) PLA is not among the higher melting temps of filaments, neither is it among the more impact resistant filaments to my knowledge. What i mean is that for printing with PLA the nozzle temp you use in a 3D printer is between 180 and 220 °C. (i used 205°C the last time i printed PLA iirc) The PCTG i use for most things i print, has a nozzle temp of around 260°C and ABS is even higher and supposdly has the highest impact resistance. Sure the projectiles are only exposed to the high temperature for a short amount of time, but still, a way higher temperature, and the barrel also might get warm enough to deform the material i thought.

@Tesserae

13 күн бұрын

I agree that they should have been made with ABS rather than PLA for durability. I wish the closeups of the projectiles had better exposure.

Plastic doesnt absorb heat as fast as metals, so when exposed to a blast from powder they usually dont melt at all. The only thing i would be careful of is putting PLA into an already hot barrel. PLA can begin melting at about 50 celsius, i would recommend PETG at a minimum but preferrably ABS, ASA, HIPS or Nylon. These common plastics have anywhere between 50-120% higher glass transition temperature.

Cool, I actually printed a couple of bullets a while back for a 308 but never got around to trying them. I figured a primer only and a blanket as a back stop could work. And eye protection, plastic is bouncy.

A lot of folks use 3d printing to create the positive for making silicone molds. I bet you could do the same and cast some epoxy or similar Minie Balls that'd be more structurally sound than PLA. Or use castable elastic and make Ye Olde Rubber Bullets! Making a higher temperature mold by the same means with plaster of paris could be a cheap way to prototype cast lead bullet designs without cutting a cherry and drilling mold blocks on a lathe. Edit: Looks like Alumilite Mold Putty is heat-resistant enough to cast lead in (people use it for fishing weights). I think I found a new way to prototype black powder bullets.

Definitely key-holing, from the pistol... don't think it'll replace air guns for in-door practice! 😅

These have so low that accuracy will always be an issue. This is further compounded by the hollow construction. Simply printing them as solid slugs would probably have worked better. If they could be made accurate out to 10 or 15 meters I could see the value as a low cost practice round. Less powder used, less fouling that needs cleaning and reusability all speak to the frugal owner who just want to practice proficiency.

Mr Chap, a question please: given the projectiles are not proving for you that useful, how about experimenting with paper patching them and using a 25-30 grain charge? If they beak up, at least the paper would minimise bore smear. Fun video, thank you, Gus

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

Too fat to paper patch unfortunately, they are a friction fit already.

@gussie88bunny

14 күн бұрын

@thebotrchap super fast reply, thanks Chap! Bummer ..... have you fatter bored 58's that might manage that?

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

@@gussie88bunny These are 18mm/0.69" big boys.

You need to get these made in green pet that way you can have green menie

How to tell that someone is using black powder? Look at their overly muscular forearms.

@chairzombie8378

14 күн бұрын

"why yes I do have a colt walker, how'd you guess"

TPU skirt base instead of a full PLA print would most likely improve accuracy because it will behave more like rubber under pressure

another factor of use could well be in spaces that you want to limit lead exposure, particularly if you were doing blackpowder with kids. That said, if I had the space and funds, I'd love to use that design to make a "paintball" for use in reenactment and similar styles of shooting, since you could figure out some velocities and ranges for massed fire. Could be interesting!

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

Pretty sure you could redesign it with a cavity in the nose for a marking gel and a few radial holes so that the gel gets squirted out on impact, assuming it doesn't tumble of course.

Could you repeat the experiment with home cast aluminium? They would be cheaper and would probably grip the rifling.

when I woke up this morning I thought this was a warhammer model making video in my notifications lol

@thebotrchap

13 күн бұрын

Don’t tempt me, it’s been years but tempted to get Hero Quest for the kids as an excuse to paint some minis again 😇

Nobody tell Ordo Hereticus, they ruin all the fun

Interesting chappie good job.

I'm wary of plastic in BP guns. I once loaded some 12b cartridges with BP and used plaswads. The rounds fired OK but when I looked down the barrels, they looked filthy and choked. I pushed a well patched cleaning rod through and a 28 inch long crinkly black plastic barrel liner flopped out the front. They came out cleanly and just needed an oily wipe to get the inside shiny again. I assume hot burning powder and low melting point plastic don't mix.

@matteoorlandi856

14 күн бұрын

consider also the the BP burns way slower with all the residues, even of it's not nearly as hot as the smokeless, the transfer of heat is bigger. if you load 12 gauges with BP use a more traditional wad...

@SlavicCelery

13 күн бұрын

​@@matteoorlandi856BP burns faster than most smokeless, leading to a faster peak pressure that's much lower than smokeless. BP is actually an explosive, smokeless powder is not.

C'mon... It was only a matter of time before we got here

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

Humanity has gone too far too fast I tell you. This is just one of the horrors we have unleashed 😅

Look at a fluflu arrow a lot of "furry" stuff at the back, is it possible to have a lot thinner driving bands that are interrupted in a random way?

Have you done a video on the Pedersolli system?

@thebotrchap

12 күн бұрын

Nope, I don’t yet have one of their pistols

Could this be used for dueling?

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

Probably yes

@allangibson8494

14 күн бұрын

Probably lethal at short range…

@matteoorlandi856

14 күн бұрын

nope. even if it loses energy quickly you have a good ammount of jaules at the muzzle. if you are close enough you can crack bones, "remove" eyes and... you can figure it i guess.

@novusrex2639

14 күн бұрын

@@matteoorlandi856 but if you were wearing enough padding and proper metal face shields (and maybe a lowered powder charge) would that be enough to cause bruising and not be fatal?

@jamesbromstead4949

13 күн бұрын

There were dueling clubs in France where wax bullets were used with fencing masks and padded clothing. So... maybe.

How many of these things do you have to make before injection moulding becomes cheaper?

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

I'm not making anything. I just bought a handful.

@KarltheKrazyone

14 күн бұрын

would depend on a few things, but since home gamer injection molding is not common, a few thousand at least.

@marcusborderlands6177

14 күн бұрын

honestly, probably tens of thousands.

@tomhenry897

13 күн бұрын

Thousands Molds Arn’t cheap

Were you guys also send the limited edition VRMM '24 patch with a typo on it?

@thebotrchap

14 күн бұрын

Not ordered anything yet to be able to receive one.

when I googled for nipple adapter I got weird results

Have you discovered a new alternative to Airsoft?

Murd'e... 😳

3d printed! That will give the ATF and there government will keep you safe believers something new to soil themselves over. And they are scary tactical black.

next stop: printed pritchett .550 balls with printed plugs it's not gonna work but whatever, since we are allready wasting swiss powder let's waste some more?