That is something else!! Amazing!

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, feels like you're on the bike doesn't it?

Is awesome seeing the bike move around, such a cool camera! :-)

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

It's better on a tablet where you can just tip and angle it like a steering wheel. I think if we all contribute our knowledge into the collective pool we're in for some amazing film!

Love the technology you’ve introduced in this video. Felt like I was riding your bike tilting my iPad around, brilliant!

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

I only discovered that by accident, blundering my way through the technology! The next step is a VR helmet ...

Very clever isn't it - the technology is brilliant - I really like the more realistic impression of speed and the ability to show your view on lifesavers or looking into road junctions - your ridings got a nice flow to it now as you're getting used to the bike and starting to relax with it to let it do it's job - if you can adapt that tank mount to fit properly, I'd keep it - I think it gives the most realistic "riders eye" view and being a slightly wider angle view it works well - good stuff

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dale, yes its clever isnt it? I'm still looking for a solution for the fuel tank mount. I'll also see how it looks on the RaM mount on the bars, as even a little more distance between rider and camera will be useful.

Really cool!

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Gives an interesting perspective doesn't it?

What a cool bit of technology.... enjoyed the ride along too... but the ability to move the view was great. Stay well, Neil. Steve

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, fun isnt it? Still playing with the settings and camera position.

Love the 360

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Makes an interesting perspective doesn't it?

Wow, this is truly something awesome...

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

It is impressive isnt it?

Wow, how cool is that :)

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, more to come!

That’s very clever 👌🏻

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

And should look better once I've mastered the positioning and rendering!

hi Neil like the new camera especially the way the horizon stays flat and the bike moves as you lean into the corners. i found myself watching mainly in forward facing position as when i panned the view around it showed mainly your arms and body. to get the best view i think you need to re position the camera. which i'm sure you have thought of keep the videos coming they are great to watch

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger, agreed. The challenge is to somehow create a gap between me and the camera. I'm going to try a handlebar mount to see how that looks. Some folks stick them on poles that extend outside the bike.

Amazing 360 footage 👍🏼

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Impressive isnt it? Not sure about my riding though :-0

@schwartz4074

4 жыл бұрын

Back2TheBike You ride perfectly fine sir, one must be sensible and prudent on 2 wheels. Plus the roads are wet this time of the year. Your position on the road are really good too. Ride safe, not fast sir.🙏🏼

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

@@schwartz4074 You're very kind. I reckon there's always room for improvement though. Even when you to talk to Police bikers they tell you they are still learning!

@schwartz4074

4 жыл бұрын

Back2TheBike That’s true sir, there’s always room for improvement... that’s why road and safe knowledge are much more important than bike skills. ☺️

Wow, that is clever stuff... nice.

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

I even impressed myself!

Great stuff, love to be able to look around (and I am pretty sure it can be converted to VR) - I think the video suffers from high compression settings a bit. I am pretty sure it can be set much higher for very clear picture, but the upload size will increase.

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

I should be able to upload in 5600 but for some reason the GoPro software limits the conversion to 4K. Bear in mind this is spread over the internal face if the 360 'globe's too. It is already in VR, so if you own a headset you can pan around.

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Did some research last night and I think it's my graphics card that limits rendering to 4K, looks like I need to upgrade.

I watched this on my pc and my tablet and your vids have always been very clear but this one seems a bit fuzzy whether it's my equipment or your camera settings i do not know but 360 cameras are very clever tech, hope to see more vids soon from you but hope the clarity is as good as it used to be. And i like the new bike very much.

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

It should look at least as sharp as normal John. Check your resolution on KZread as it often defaults to something like 480, should be 1440s

@johnwilson4210

4 жыл бұрын

@@Back2TheBike Thankyou for your advice, I'm not much of a techie, but it was set at 480 now changed and all is now ok, keep the vids coming, I have thoroughly enjoyed your journey of Back2TheBike. All the best for the future, regards John.

Yes I think the new camera does add something different. The technology is quite amazing however the picture did seem a bit grainy and not very sharp although that may be my ageing Mac ! Seemed a good smooth and effortless ride. Now - when is the 360 video with your IAM bib off, the Monster turned to sport mode and the speedo all fuzzy !

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Theres some compromise as it takes a 4K picture and paints it on the inside face our your 360 globe. Youll probably improve the image by tweaking the quality settings on youtube

Hi Neil love the tech.its cool. Just wonderin is it lack of big faring or is the ride more sporty. Keep warm

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Gerald, not so much 'sporty' as perfectly balanced, very easy to handle. Bear in mind it weighs 2x my bodyweight, the RT was 3x and it really makes a difference.

Thanks for the upload Neil. I think you've helped finalise my decision that the 360 cameras are not for me. I'm lazy and want to be shown what you want me to look at by your editing. Also the sample footage on-line looks great in bright sunny California or Australia but in murky old UK the picture quality suffers badly ... even watching the 4k feed. The stabilised footage in Hero mode you originally posted was much better, but even then not as good a plain vanilla camera. I look forward to seeing more examples, while I continue to ponder my next camera choice. I will just mention again you using of a high gear in slow corners. Yes, it's a torquey motor, but one day the revs will drop just that fraction to far, and the engine will cough/rattle and stall. Not good with bars turned and slightly leaned over. Just be mindful of this. Keep safe.

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, thanks for the input on cornering. I'm still working on my acceleration sense and gears, I reckon itll take me while to bed in properly and always appreciate your wisdom. Remember on the Max that you can opt to reframe the film in 16:9, whereby in front of the computer at home you can pan and zoom to choose what view you want to show. I'll be using a mix of all three modes - std Hero, reframe and pure 360. The image will improve I hope when gopro issue their windows software, also as they update the firmware on the camera itself. I notice btw theres a new Insta360 just out which might tempt you ...

@mikeroberts

4 жыл бұрын

@@Back2TheBike Just read in the video description that you used the exporter to MP4. That will have removed a huge amount of resolution and may explain the grainy footage. If you can use the app on a phone or tablet you may be able to export full resolution to MP4. I'm sure it also looks better on your PC, as KZread does crush everything trying to balance storage/bitrate/network traffic with quality. It's bad that it seems quite common now for hardware to be released when the supporting software/drivers are not fit for purpose. It must constitute false advertising, saying a camera can do 5.6k 360 ... when clearly it can't on all platforms they claim it supports.

That's really great. I like that I can adjust the angle of the camera to suit my preference. In my case I like to see just a bit of the dash and handlebars - enough to give a reference point but leaving most of the picture for the view ahead. I can imagine other viewers prefer a different perspective - perhaps something closer to riders eye-level or a view which does not show the bars/screen at all. As I say, it's great. Was the audio more subdued than usual on this video?

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Audio was an afterthought really Richard. I'll improve it next time around. I've just twigged you can just tilt and twist your phone or tablet to get the different views, much more intuitive than pressing and dragging. Now I need a a VR headset ...

I'm a recent subscriber to your channel and find it very refreshing that your not trying to promote products as others do who have clearly a vested interest to say the least sooooo when I saw your latest upload re the GoPro Max (a camera I have been wondering wether to get) I was hoping it would sway me one way or the other BUT I'm sorry to say I'm back to square one. I have the GoPro Hero 8 and I'm delighted with the vid quality from what I would call the norm today of 1080P right thro to 4K, although I tend to shoot in 2700> The problem I have with the Max is the quality which some of your footage highlights, it blocks a lot in places even on a Mac Book Pro and the setting in KZread set to the highest. I may just get another Hero 8 for added scenes and wait till the Max 3 ;-)

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late response, just seen your comment. I keep battling with the Max and try to understand the fuzzy edges. Two theories: 1. the level of vibration from my tank mount which is significant. Can the auto stabilisation cope? 2. I shoot in low sharpness, but am still playing with how to adjust this when I edit. I suspect the Max's sensors (with its 360 capability) mean that you don't get the crispness you see on a std Hero, or for that matter my mobile phone, which is much sharper.

Hi Neil, The 360 looks ok on a iPad where you can move things around but does not work at all on a fixed screen TV. Any thoughts on this. Cheers

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Doug. On the iPad try increasing the resolution and you'll see a difference. At first I thought it wouldn't work on tv but it is fine on my 4k tv. On my Samsung set I simply use the remotes arrow keys to pan.

Techno Techno!! lol Could you fit a RAM mount claw fitting to the steering damper body? then a short RAM extension back towards you maybe...(Ram Mount RAP-B-400U Tough-Claw Small Clamp Base with 1" Diameter Rubber Ball) I use this clamp all the time as it securely fits to pretty much anything. Good footage Neil :)

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

I considered that HH, but then the damper moves with the steering which I think would continually move the image and distract. The challenge is to create a fixed mount somewhere on the bike's centre line, with more space between me and the camera but that can see the instruments. Im goingnto try it out on the satnav RAM mount though. I dont like the idea of sticking on a pole like a medieval knight as I've seen some do, looks daft, insecure and dangerous. Thoughts?

@HepcatHarley

4 жыл бұрын

@@Back2TheBike Yes I don't like the look of the long poles either. I still say your best option is an adaptor on the fuel cap surround for a suitable ram mount. The mount ball joints will give way on impact but then a man of your talents shouldn't be crashing anyway ;)

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

@@HepcatHarley Problem is trying to find one to fit the Ducati. Might have to get the Meccano out ...

@HepcatHarley

4 жыл бұрын

@@Back2TheBike a simple ring machined out of aluminium and drilled to match the cap surround with countersunk holes would do it. Then using the ram mount for cap surrounds fixed to that (if there's a mis-match with the holes as you said) As long as the diameter is the same job done. Just an idea and it's probably better than Meccano, in my experience.

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

@@HepcatHarley good idea but i dont have the tech for that job😭

Wow, such witchcraft from a religious man❗️seriously though Neil that was amazing, reckon all vloggers going to have to get on board with the whole 360 thing 👍🏻

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed Clive. The next revolution is underway.

Love the ability to play around with views while watching but the picture quality isn’t that great. Is that a setting adjustment or is it at its highest frame rate etc?

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Check you're watching at the highest setting as often YT defaults to something lower. You should be able to get 4K, but remember that's spread over a 360 field of view so wont be as sharp as 4K standard mode. Frame rate is limited to 30fps. I still think it looks sharper than the Max Hero mode 1080p/60fps.

mmm...just purchased drift ghost x, this seems much better viewing, had few issues with getting right posistion for camera and losing sound which i think was to do with intercom

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

You'll find a bit of experimentation is necessary Andy. It took me a while to bed everything in with the Drifts I use. I think the X is a great unit.

How come you didn't use Hero mode for this? :-)

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

I bought the Max to experiment with 360. It's easy to capture on the camera, but hard complex to edit and render. My phone can't handle the processing so I have to use a variety of software and techniques to produce. My films from now on will be a mix of standard 1080p, reframed 360 and VR360.

Looks like I'm the only one who that cam got my motion sickness going then 😂

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

For the fully inclusive effect you need to sit on the washing machine whilst aiming a leaf blower up your trouser leg and wear 3D goggles 😎

Doesn’t work on TV version of KZread Neil

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Some TV's! Works fine on my Samsung and I use the arrow keys to pan around. Try it on a phone then tilt and roll.

@SouthWest-jj8yu

4 жыл бұрын

Back2TheBike tried it Neil but couldn’t really see the point

Loved the new camera Neil although I did miss your dulcet tones……

@Back2TheBike

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! A lot of people like it better with the sound off !