.357 mag vs .44 mag - Drywall Test

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  • @joearokis8265
    @joearokis8265 Жыл бұрын

    I bet if the .44 mag had the extra 2 inches of barrel that the .357 had, it would have gone through more sheets than it did. I always try to keep barrel length the same when comparing two rounds.

  • @philippewhitty3049

    @philippewhitty3049

    Жыл бұрын

    Speed and diameter...

  • @joejose2022

    @joejose2022

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philippewhitty3049 what do you mean by that?

  • @philippewhitty3049

    @philippewhitty3049

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joejose2022 The smaller diameter and the speed, that important for penetration.

  • @joejose2022

    @joejose2022

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philippewhitty3049 the original commenter was saying that you lose velocity with shorter barrels. The difference between a 2 in barrel and a 4 in barrel would be significant. If the 44 mag was a 4 in barrel it would have a greater velocity and better penetration.

  • @brutebiz82

    @brutebiz82

    Жыл бұрын

    Paul Harrell has disproved the barrel length notion several times with many makes of revolvers.

  • @aaronfire2989
    @aaronfire29893 ай бұрын

    Test inconclusive. Unequal barrel lengths.

  • @mike1967sam
    @mike1967sam9 күн бұрын

    This is insane. I thought maybe 7 or 8 for the .357 and about 10 for the .44...This is a great video especially for people out there who want a concealed carry permit and think - "No, I need something with real stopping a 357 isn't enough, I need a 44.". It's true that the 44 does do more damage but the 357 will go through practically anything the 44 will. Amazing video. Mike.

  • @keenobservations3050
    @keenobservations30502 жыл бұрын

    Space in between each sheet changes the final number. With blowout of the back of the drywall would allow more sheets or less sheets of penetration. The tightly packed sheets cause the rounds to compact the drywall. Need to space the dry wall by 4 inches to get a good reading on what really happens.

  • @billellington9754
    @billellington97542 жыл бұрын

    Anybody who doesn't like 357 and 44 magnum just ain't American

  • @casonbedford3683

    @casonbedford3683

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @nmelkhunter1

    @nmelkhunter1

    2 жыл бұрын

    ‘Murica!

  • @xx_insert_cool_username_he6876

    @xx_insert_cool_username_he6876

    2 жыл бұрын

    And 45 acp

  • @MattWaller04

    @MattWaller04

    2 жыл бұрын

    Accurate.

  • @MattWaller04

    @MattWaller04

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xx_insert_cool_username_he6876 lol 2 world wars!

  • @Shooter-rj6rb
    @Shooter-rj6rb2 жыл бұрын

    Drywall is notorious for inhibiting expansion in most hollow point rounds. No hydrostatic pressure to expand the projectile against the hard drywall around it.

  • @phild9813

    @phild9813

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah definitely. The larger holes going through the drywall were from the bullets tumbling. Great video.

  • @loochan325

    @loochan325

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hydrostatic shock expand some wet ass when the bulett is supersonic, not the bulett. For bulett expansion you need a more cavernous holowpoint, higher diameter holow and soft lead not hardcast, or corbone with a hard ball placed in a similar conic shape cavernous soft bulett, or EFMJ that have radial striated FMJ over a front soft elastomer part placed over a back weight.

  • @tommypackwood1013

    @tommypackwood1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Remember, solid nose bullets penetrate much farther than hollow point

  • @Sman7290

    @Sman7290

    2 жыл бұрын

    It also instantly plugs the hollow cavity, eliminating expansion, and basically turning it into a ball round.

  • @beyproctor7673
    @beyproctor7673 Жыл бұрын

    Good video idea! I once toured a business that fitted bullet proof panels into cars! Awesome stuff. Your family is lucky to have you testing the technology. Oh yeah, I think the lack of expansion made for a better test. Those unexpanded hollow points penetrated much more than if they had mushroomed. Better test the next idea using fmj just to be sure.

  • @Redhawk_44
    @Redhawk_44 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this video, I have both of these guns. Keep up the great work!

  • @chrisharmon8858
    @chrisharmon88582 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I'm watching the count on sesame street. "1 sheet of drywall...hmm, hmm, hmm. 2 sheets of drywall ...hmm, hmm, hmm"

  • @jamesgoodwin1155

    @jamesgoodwin1155

    2 жыл бұрын

    Guess he made this video before building materials shot through the roof.

  • @kendodd8734

    @kendodd8734

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great post pmsl

  • @kensan8204

    @kensan8204

    Ай бұрын

    😂

  • @GrantOakes
    @GrantOakes2 жыл бұрын

    Barrel length makes a major difference too as it captures more energy from the cartridge to propel the round. If the .44 Mag had a longer barrel to match the .357 it would have probably gone through 2 more sheets of drywall.

  • @biknjak

    @biknjak

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what I was thinking 🤔

  • @johnjaffe6107

    @johnjaffe6107

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was gonna say the same before I even watched the video.

  • @pursuithemi5.7awd81

    @pursuithemi5.7awd81

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnjaffe6107 I'm glad I read your comment 😊 genius thank you

  • @heavydutyreviews1303

    @heavydutyreviews1303

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep!

  • @cryptidnomad3850

    @cryptidnomad3850

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep,,big dif between my snubby and my 6",,,

  • @willnewberry8369
    @willnewberry83692 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised, never thought they'd go that far . Good job , thank you.

  • @crankybuzzard6867
    @crankybuzzard6867 Жыл бұрын

    Thats crazy..... Nice job. Really enjoyed it!

  • @johnknouse8846
    @johnknouse88462 жыл бұрын

    That’s a beautiful Ruger 44 mag snubbie! I would have guessed about 12-15 sheets at most. Surprising results! Wondering if the hollow points got packed with drywall, which stopped the expansion.

  • @InlinePaul

    @InlinePaul

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, round nose full metal jacket would probably go deeper.

  • @sherryneglia4804

    @sherryneglia4804

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely I'd say

  • @halfcirclehranch6877
    @halfcirclehranch68772 жыл бұрын

    Interesting story from a police officer. A woman was trying to scare her husband (who liked to beat the hell out of her), so she shot the wall next to him with a .357 Magnum. The bullet passed through two interior walls, punched its way out through the outside brick wall, flew into the neighbor's yard, between the neighbor's legs, and punched a hole through his lawnmower's engine. He didn't know what happened. Just all the sudden his lawn mower stopped. He looked and there was a stream of oil coming out of the engine. He didn't have any idea what happened until the police showed up at his neighbor's house and traced the bullet path to his lawn mower.

  • @itsjustjoe3790

    @itsjustjoe3790

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shoulda bought a Deere.

  • @Rick-hx1ne

    @Rick-hx1ne

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yike it should be more careful it too much power would go thru I wouldn't want to use too much power the best way is used wiser to shoot with with 9mm pistol I don't want to be trouble hurting someone to be sued . 9mm it should be alright. 9mm would go to 10 walls maybe I m guessing.

  • @garyevans3421

    @garyevans3421

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nine looks small in comparison to these revolver rounds, but it has pretty good penetration. Your guess as to how many sheets sounds pretty good, so shooting from inside a normal house rather than from one end to the other would probably come out and threaten others!

  • @stephenkluz9733

    @stephenkluz9733

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unlikely it would have gone through the brick and still have enough energy to damage that lawn mower.

  • @thekochdieselskils5506

    @thekochdieselskils5506

    2 жыл бұрын

    The officers I’ve seen in action couldn’t find their own ass with both hands, I’m calling BS on that.

  • @KantoCacho
    @KantoCacho2 жыл бұрын

    Damn re-upload an old video from 3 years ago and it got more views good for you. Nice video very informative as I'm looking to buy a revolver but haven't decided on caliber

  • @WHOTEEWHO

    @WHOTEEWHO

    2 жыл бұрын

    YT is whack

  • @Ghoststar2009
    @Ghoststar2009 Жыл бұрын

    Great video; I would suggest using 2x6 framing with cement board over blue-board and fill the hollow with gravel and sand - 5.5 inches of gravel and sand may seem heavy, but it's not that heavy and I am pretty sure such a wall with a total of 8.5 depth and a hollow filled with 5.5 inches of sand and something like bluestone gravel will stop the magnums and likely even rifle rounds. Maybe you could make a small version and test it. Good luck. David

  • @stoveboltlvr3798

    @stoveboltlvr3798

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe a sheet of 1/8" steel added for good measure. You're right though, that gravel fill would go a long, long way.

  • @mykehunt2430

    @mykehunt2430

    3 ай бұрын

    I was talking to a home inspector and he said he got into the wall of his 1920s farmhouse here in Michigan in the cavities were full of sand. I told him at least his house was bulletproof.

  • @stroys7061
    @stroys70612 жыл бұрын

    I have a Ruger 44 mag with 7 1/2 inch barrel. I stacked 12 inches of fully dried treated lumber left over from a deck build. It included two 4x4’s and four 5/4 inch decking lumber. All of it was several years old and very hard. I used Garret 310 grain hard cast bullets from about 10 feet. I fired two bullets. Both were stopped at 9 inches penetration and did not deform much. I bought the garrets to take on a backpacking trip into grizzle bear country (Bob Marshall, Montana). One member of our party carried a 475 Linebaugh and I carried the 44 mag. Everyone else carried bear spray as did I. I wanted to be sure my rounds would penetrate and crush bone. I’m satisfied with the power. It is not fun to shoot that heavy load but put 44 special in it and there is very little recoil.

  • @chrisinhotwater9896
    @chrisinhotwater98962 жыл бұрын

    Note to self dont use drywall as cover...

  • @ralphcrosby9622
    @ralphcrosby96222 жыл бұрын

    Good simple study of power. Reminds me of the old Box O Truth testing. Good Job!

  • @Recon6
    @Recon62 жыл бұрын

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!...QUESTION ...WHICH ONE SHOULD I USE TO DROP A BEAR. I AM GOING TO CALIFORNA MOUNTAIN WITH FRIEND OF MINE. I WANT MY OWN PROTECTION OR SHOULD I BUY WEAPON WTH MAGAZINE.

  • @samthai818
    @samthai8182 жыл бұрын

    I was only expecting 4 or 6 sheets of penetration. The 44 mag is a few inches shorter. I think the 44 gains 25 to 50 fps per inch of additional length which translates to 12 to 25 ft/lbs energy per inch. Which may add an additional 1 to two more sheets of penetration. In any regards, this was an interesting test. Thank you.

  • @johngiannini697
    @johngiannini6972 жыл бұрын

    The barrels should be the same such as 4" or 6" instead of 4" verses 2 1/2".

  • @1803cannon

    @1803cannon

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Losing a lot of pressure with the short barrel.

  • @nickyd.4695

    @nickyd.4695

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're on the money!!!

  • @thatguy-art6229

    @thatguy-art6229

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why is that even important. The simple tech data from the mfg should answer your question - if you think it is important. Otherwise you are just playing with.....

  • @johngiannini697

    @johngiannini697

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thatguy-art6229 Well here is the difference the shorter barrel expels the slug quicker and in so doing a lot of unburnt power and pressure with it. The longer barrel give the slug more speed because of the longer barrel. The simple tech data needs be examined for what barrel length the information was obtained from.

  • @joewoodchuck3824

    @joewoodchuck3824

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure he'd be willing to do the test with equal length barrels if you give him whatever meets your technical standards.

  • @henryhallmann4282
    @henryhallmann42822 жыл бұрын

    In the “good old days” we used rolls of newspapers to stuff inside the walls where insulation would be placed. A .38 makes an excellent home protection gun as the bullet has less of a chance of wall penetration as do larger calibers and when a .38 enters the body it tends to bounce off the ribs inside the body , causing a lot of damage.

  • @grindfreakmike5754

    @grindfreakmike5754

    Жыл бұрын

    Like a m16 round does.

  • @henryhallmann4282

    @henryhallmann4282

    Жыл бұрын

    @peter - you dumb

  • @jasonmedcalf2707

    @jasonmedcalf2707

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grindfreakmike5754 Neither bullets "bounce" The 223 round shatters and those pieces create multiple wound channels.

  • @justusbryant7366

    @justusbryant7366

    3 ай бұрын

    Ummmm 38 sucks 😂

  • @INUAGAIN

    @INUAGAIN

    Күн бұрын

    isn't a .357 Mag bullet smaller than a .38? Doesn't it always penetrate better than a .38 with the same grains of powder?

  • @larryeaton4263
    @larryeaton42632 жыл бұрын

    I have 2 issues with this test. 1. Barrel length is important for a test like this, and was obviously different and was not mentioned. 2. I'm betting in the real world, where the drywall layers are separated by large gaps, results would be different. H In Georgia where I live, not sure it's still the law, but when handguns were first legalized for whitetail deer, there was a requirement of minimum 500 ft lbs muzzle energy. At the time, I read up on it since I had no experience with handguns. There were only 2 common loads that could achieve that, the 44mag and the 357mag. Barrel length was a factor. So legally you had to have something like 8 or 10 inch barrel with the 357 and I like the flexibility of being able to use it with 38 for home defense. So, I lost interest, since that is not much more convenient than a rifle, and for me, didn't make sense since I'm pretty good with a rifle and not so much with a handgun.

  • @robertgitzen8227
    @robertgitzen82272 жыл бұрын

    Both turned into an FMJ, common dry wall issue. Good vid!

  • @wulfmaer8919
    @wulfmaer89192 жыл бұрын

    So, I skipped to the end and probably missed useful details on the ammo, but here are my concerns: For a valid test you need the same length barrel on both pistols, and then as close as you can get to the same projectile weight on the ammo. I also think solid ammo would be preferential to hollow points for max penetration and more uniform performance comparison. But it was still interesting to see. Thanks for the video!

  • @stevenhuckaby2902

    @stevenhuckaby2902

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 44 was at a disadvantage dye to excesive wrist recoil due to the small snub nose barrel , try it again using the 7 3/4 inch barrel , like mine , Huge difference !

  • @gregpalermo3861

    @gregpalermo3861

    2 жыл бұрын

    They're comparing apples to oranges. If every thing were exactly the same then what exactly would you be comparing?

  • @roelvinckens5553

    @roelvinckens5553

    2 жыл бұрын

    The .44 was aimed at a lower angle as well... Still nice results!

  • @ralphu.7568

    @ralphu.7568

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Use the same length barrel.

  • @ORCs-R-Idiots

    @ORCs-R-Idiots

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gregpalermo3861 Everything else except the caliber or bullet should be the same. Even the angle of penetration should be the same. The 44 was at a disadvantage regarding the barrel lenght and the downward angle. We know that longer barrel means farther distance and downward angle is like passing a thicker board.

  • @abnoco
    @abnoco2 жыл бұрын

    My guess was 16 layers. I have no experience with either gun or caliber but I figured drywall doesn’t put up much resistance. It would be good to see if spacing with 2x4s changes anything, or fiberglass insulation.

  • @keenobservations3050

    @keenobservations3050

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ditto said something similar. I’ve seen watermelons stop a .357. And I’ve seen ten explode from the same test.

  • @wesleykunz3602
    @wesleykunz3602 Жыл бұрын

    I have done similar test. The 44 with the same length barrel, will do a significant amount more damage. I used both in a 8 inch barrel. In my belief, you might not had quite enough drywall to stop the 44Mag. The velocity would have been a lot higher. Thanks for listening and for your video.

  • @billystink4611
    @billystink46112 жыл бұрын

    Epic, look forward to seeing more tests :)

  • @kartofflespotato2350
    @kartofflespotato23502 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to this, always like real world demonstrations, cuz nobody has stacks of pumpkins in their homes but drywall is everywhere.

  • @johnsimpson4715
    @johnsimpson4715 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the interesting video. I'd like to see more tests including shotgun 00Buckshot. I'd also like to get the specs on the drywall, e.g. type, thickness, etc. I also wonder if air space between the layers of drywall would significantly change the results.

  • @kenhill5713
    @kenhill571311 ай бұрын

    Enjoyed watching your video. Thanks.

  • @randalbigirvirvin1153
    @randalbigirvirvin11532 жыл бұрын

    I'm completely amazed at how many layers were penatrated

  • @thepapergoomba9390

    @thepapergoomba9390

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what your mom said to me last night

  • @tomprice3513

    @tomprice3513

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Paper Goomba ur real cool what are u 12

  • @thepapergoomba9390

    @thepapergoomba9390

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tomprice3513 Yes 12/10 in looks according to ur mom

  • @eliferguson3422

    @eliferguson3422

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thepapergoomba9390 ain't going to lie, that was a good comeback.

  • @wehrewulf

    @wehrewulf

    2 жыл бұрын

    penetrated

  • @billdye3530
    @billdye35302 жыл бұрын

    I've been carrying same ammo in Taurus 627 but time for a change unless using it in bear territory. I thought maybe 10 to 12 sheets. Surprising video on over penetration. Thanks

  • @planker
    @planker Жыл бұрын

    Good presentation, for me the.357 is the best shooting cal. however the Mag part might get me sued if I had to use it in defense. That's why I recommend the 45ACP for all carry needs. It won't go through boards like butter but splits melons just fine.

  • @daqt6079
    @daqt6079 Жыл бұрын

    I guessed 12 sheets for the 44 mag. For the 357 I wasn’t sure if it would be a few sheets more or a few less. But wow, both are impressive! After seeing this I’m thinking a 500 S&W mag would probably go through all of them. Great test and thank you for doing it!

  • @vincesmith764

    @vincesmith764

    5 ай бұрын

    and don,t foreget the broken/damaged wrist cartlidge in shooting hand.

  • @BeingRealSavage

    @BeingRealSavage

    4 ай бұрын

    @@vincesmith764 what called short barrel revolver ? 44 magnums or

  • @leecowell8165

    @leecowell8165

    3 ай бұрын

    @@vincesmith764 yeah hear you there. If one is firing a 50 tell you what that better have a long barrel and you'd want some weight on that thing as well.

  • @vincesmith764

    @vincesmith764

    3 ай бұрын

    @@leecowell8165 understood. i,m getting maturerer .every year. same goes with my .357,s. :)

  • @sweetdrahthaar7951
    @sweetdrahthaar79512 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had 357‘s for decades and have only fired a 44 magnum a few times decades ago. Have no desire to own a 44 but I’ll watch any comparison between the two. Thanks for the video sir👍🏻

  • @bradhaines3142

    @bradhaines3142

    2 жыл бұрын

    i want a 44 magnum lever action rifle, bout as small as id go for that big of a boom

  • @sweetdrahthaar7951

    @sweetdrahthaar7951

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradhaines3142 Lever actions and revolvers are my favorites. And if I had to choose I’d probably go single action on the revolver. How’s that for being old-fashioned😂 I’ve kept some of those around for decades now all in 357/38. People are really liking the Henry’s. We’ll see what Ruger does with Marlin. If they can get anywhere near the JB stamped Marlin products, those will be hard to beat.

  • @bradhaines3142

    @bradhaines3142

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sweetdrahthaar7951 i want to get a CC license and a pistol with all the fixings (good holster and such for it, pile of ammo, etc) but soon as i get all that, im getting a henry. they look so nice, the design is so classic. and in large pistol caliber are reasonably punchy in both directions

  • @sweetdrahthaar7951

    @sweetdrahthaar7951

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradhaines3142 You can’t go wrong with a Henry.. they are doing a real nice job on their products and quality control as far as I know is real good. Here’s a quick Henry story: I bought one of their 22s secondhand. Can’t remember the model number but it’s an octagon barrel. This has been quite a while ago and upgrade wood kits were available back then so I called them up and said I’d like to dress mine up a little with some figured word. They said we don’t do that anymore but we’ve got lots of wood sets. I said well pick one of the better ones you’ve got and I’ll buy it. They said we’ll send you the best we have no charge. And they did. They said if it’s not better than what you’ve got just go ahead and keep it. It wasn’t really better than what was on the rifle but I’ve got an extra set of furniture now. That’s a pretty impressive company in my opinion👍🏻

  • @Casey773
    @Casey7732 жыл бұрын

    Adam, don't you think the 44magnum would have made about 4 more sheets if it had an 8 inch barrel?

  • @BlaccSuave

    @BlaccSuave

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course it wldve I like snub nose heavy caliber pistols tho the intent 4 em is 2 get up close and personal

  • @cowboycarpenter8713

    @cowboycarpenter8713

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BlaccSuave Rather use a 5 inch and put the barrel in their navel. and I wouldn't waste 40% of the powder charge.

  • @markbotta8567

    @markbotta8567

    2 жыл бұрын

    Had the barrels been of equal length, the 44 would have definitely penetrated a few more boards.

  • @ronhunt9396

    @ronhunt9396

    2 жыл бұрын

    My 44mag Ruger has a 7in barrel. I bought it in the mid 80s. Last year I put a Leopold scope on it. Love it

  • @cowboycarpenter8713

    @cowboycarpenter8713

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe, but then again if the bullet was traveling faster it may have flattened the bullet more causing a larger hole and less penetration'

  • @billjoat
    @billjoat Жыл бұрын

    Pretty amazing. After seeing you shoot both, I'm glad I have the .357 myself since the .44 almost broke your wrist!!

  • @jeffwilson4693
    @jeffwilson4693 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting. Thanks for testing and sharing.

  • @possumpopper89
    @possumpopper892 жыл бұрын

    I’ve shot auto pistols thru drywall before and they penetrated 14-15 layers. I spaced my drywall layers about an inch apart. A 5.56 rifle penetrated about 9 layers with fragments past the 3rd layer.

  • @raymondproulx1095
    @raymondproulx10952 жыл бұрын

    If barrel lengths were the same, I feel the 44 Mag would have made it through a few more layers. Great video.

  • @paradiswest4395

    @paradiswest4395

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was the first thing I noticed was the barrel lengths are not the same

  • @sirshootsalott

    @sirshootsalott

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea hate when people try to do videos like this but they don’t use the same ammo in all the different calibers or different barrel lengths and expect it to be a accurate test it’s one thing to title it shooting drywall but idk

  • @RU2AIM

    @RU2AIM

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sirshootsalott I once did a comparison between a Cadillac and an oil fryer to see which one made the best Tie-dye T-shirts using spoiled sour cream on one and used transmission fluid on the other.

  • @sirshootsalott

    @sirshootsalott

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RU2AIM sounds lit

  • @RU2AIM

    @RU2AIM

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'll have to admit I believe I was. 😉

  • @TheCommissarIsDead
    @TheCommissarIsDead2 жыл бұрын

    That ruger tho🤙 also this guy gives me big bro vibes subbed

  • @brianklamer3328
    @brianklamer3328 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed seeing the recoil comparison between the two calibers when you held the revolvers with one hand.

  • @LoreFoundry

    @LoreFoundry

    Жыл бұрын

    That 44 really looked like it broke the wrist in slow motion.

  • @811stever
    @811stever2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty cool test... I guessed 18, and was thinking too bad the barrels weren't the same length but it looks like it didn't make a big difference. Another test would be a drywall-Stud-drywall stack up.

  • @hilohaw
    @hilohaw2 жыл бұрын

    I've seen some safe rooms designed to have layers of 3/4" plywood and layers of sheet metal, in addition to drywall. Seeing this experiment makes me think that might be a good idea.

  • @markw999

    @markw999

    2 жыл бұрын

    The sheet metal helps a lot. Did this experiment years ago. I think the result was 5 layers of 1/2 inch with sheet metal between each (.357). Looonnng time ago though.

  • @PeterErikson-rd5tj
    @PeterErikson-rd5tj Жыл бұрын

    Will. the 357. break bones in Brown bear Skull ? ( Most times I think NO. ). Is it safe to use a 357 for Bear Defence? Plus how many Foot Pounds of Force for 357. and. 44 mag.

  • @terragrappler1
    @terragrappler1 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video man!

  • @virginia7125
    @virginia71252 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how far a 41 magnum would have penetrated? Or even a 357 maximum? The 44 may have went deeper if it had the same barrel length as the 357.

  • @Marktk72
    @Marktk722 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't surprise me. When you fire into something that plugs a JHP, it' becomes a FMJ. Thanks!

  • @johnchen9930
    @johnchen9930 Жыл бұрын

    Drywall is made of gypsum powder, very loose and soft. If you put one layer of ceramic tile of the same thickness as the second and fourth layer, I guess both guns will stop at the 5th layer drywall.

  • @diolagoudis9580
    @diolagoudis958011 ай бұрын

    Very interesting!!! BTW Beautiful pistols both!

  • @6nosis
    @6nosis2 жыл бұрын

    If that 44 had a longer barrel it might’ve gone through another 5?

  • @eatmagnumrevolver3048
    @eatmagnumrevolver30482 жыл бұрын

    As someone who has Handloaded both the .357 and .44 REM Magnum for over thirty-five years here are a few points to consider. I Handload for over thirty Rifle and Pistol calibers. First you notice the excessive drywall penetration (More on this later) As far as JHP expansion, drywall is a very poor medium Proper HP and JHP bullet design expansion requires “hydraulic impact” on the HP and JHP to institute and complete full expansion. These bullet types are designed to enter human and/or animal targets where the bullets will impact soft blood infused organs and tissues providing expansion and energy release to reach the desired effect on the body and nervous system. Back to the drywall….the JHP bullets became “plugged” with drywall material and became non-performing JHP bullets. A word about calibers for home protection As you can see, if you live with homes close by Magnum Handgun calibers are a poor choice (Unless you hate your neighbors) because of over-penetration, on wood and stucco homes even the low pressure 230gr. 45 A.C.P. Ball or JHP can easily pass into and through your neighbor’s home next door. A more responsible choice for the home guard is the 9MM or .38 Special and you are less likely to kill your neighbors’ dog or children. If all you have are.357 and .44 Magnum revolvers seriously consider loading .38 Special and .44 Special loading's in them for home defense…much safer for everyone in the Hood’ (Remember, you WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DISCHARGES, in defense of home or not)

  • @bobburnitt5389

    @bobburnitt5389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or use a shotgun. Cheap alternative for Safe Room....... SAND BAGS!!! The abrasion is murder on projectiles. Of course sand bags will take up a lot of ROOM, but they WORK and are CHEAP.

  • @tekannon7803
    @tekannon78032 жыл бұрын

    Great vocast. What material could be a could material to accompany for example, one layer of drywall?

  • @bonnivilleblackcherry9745
    @bonnivilleblackcherry9745 Жыл бұрын

    im curious on the results if the barrels were the same length with the same rifling and if there were 3.5 ich spacing between ech panel of drywall same as a wall would have.

  • @yellowboxster06
    @yellowboxster062 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. I'm left with the impression there's only a minimal difference between the two rounds...at least in that medium. So between the two revolvers, from a practical sense, I'd pick the 8-round version of Ruger .357 Mag and leave the .44 Mag to those protecting themselves against bears.

  • @adventureswithrick8032

    @adventureswithrick8032

    2 жыл бұрын

    Barrel length makes a huge difference in velocity!

  • @robertstojcevski1098
    @robertstojcevski10982 жыл бұрын

    Both of those calibres are nothing to sneeze at, love the look of that ruger 👍👍oh you can sure see the difference in the recoil in the slomo

  • @bobd1513
    @bobd15132 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing this!

  • @WHOTEEWHO

    @WHOTEEWHO

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Bob

  • @arditehrani1186
    @arditehrani11862 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro for your video. (1) What happens if you use the same barrel length? (2) what happens if you use no hollow point ammo?

  • @honkie247
    @honkie2472 жыл бұрын

    The drywall, like clothing, plugged the hollow cavity in the bullets. A more fair test would have been pistols with equal barrel length. The 357 has a two inch longer barrel. Also, the 357 round was a light bullet (150 grains) and the 44 mag was a heavy bullet (240 grains). A more equal test would be to use a 185 grain bullet in the 44 and use equal length barrels. Too many variables to call a true winner.

  • @everettyost8639

    @everettyost8639

    Жыл бұрын

    Standard bullet weights are 158 and 240.

  • @timclaus8313

    @timclaus8313

    Жыл бұрын

    @@everettyost8639 Certainly drywall will clog the cavity if it doesn't start to expand immediately.

  • @blueridgeboy7721
    @blueridgeboy77212 жыл бұрын

    You should look into testing the 327 federal mag vs 357 magnum. That would be interesting.

  • @raywhitehead730

    @raywhitehead730

    2 жыл бұрын

    Been done, many times...look it up...

  • @douglasbeland8914

    @douglasbeland8914

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see the 44 vs. the 357 maximum. With the same length barrels

  • @davidkeith1499
    @davidkeith1499 Жыл бұрын

    Good video, WhoTee. Actually, excellent!

  • @MemphisMike901
    @MemphisMike9012 жыл бұрын

    For a bedside version, what size barrel you suggest? I am considering a 6” of either of these. Great vid

  • @robertharris2018
    @robertharris20182 жыл бұрын

    Now I'm wondering how many they would go through if there was an inch of space between each piece of drywall or even a half inch.

  • @pursuithemi5.7awd81

    @pursuithemi5.7awd81

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some explanation can't be figured out

  • @Sman7290

    @Sman7290

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you'd drop 2 sheets.

  • @patrickcarmichael235
    @patrickcarmichael2352 жыл бұрын

    A proper test would use same barrel lengths in the revolvers, same precise fixed rest, same weapon maker, same ammo manufacturer. Peace-good video

  • @gregwillis7767
    @gregwillis7767 Жыл бұрын

    I too, guessed at 7 layers, because using hollow points rather than wadcutters would allow the wallboard to "clog" the hollow, reducing inertia. However, I thought the 4 inch vs 2&1/2 inch BBL, and the smaller diameter (less resistance?) Would all the .357 to travel farther. But I was guessing also.

  • @derekgreene2304
    @derekgreene23042 жыл бұрын

    Good video sir,cheap,interesting. Didn't think they go through that many

  • @gtwolfe100
    @gtwolfe1002 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a more real-world test of this type with a firearm. My focus is on pellet rifles and there is at least one good video where the test was done with sheets of drywall attached to 2x4 stud sections and then line up approximating actual walls of a house. It would be expected for the drywall stacked in this video to stop the rounds much faster than actual walls of a house where each 5/8" thick sheet is separated so that there is no progressive increase in resistance as material compresses in front of the round. The .22 caliber PCP air rifle punched thru something on the order of 8 sheets of drywall so I expect that if these were set up like actual framed wall sections the penetration would be at least 50% greater than in this test.

  • @Vorpal_Wit
    @Vorpal_Wit2 жыл бұрын

    Both of these rounds have significant velocity changes with barrel lenght increases. Its one of the things that makes them such great all-round survival rounds. Test them out of a lever action carbine and watch the difference it makes.

  • @davidhandyman7571

    @davidhandyman7571

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same. I am thinking he might need a few more sheets of drywall.

  • @CestPasFaux-kt9zq
    @CestPasFaux-kt9zq8 ай бұрын

    thanks Harry !!

  • @MichaelAsh-sd7hw
    @MichaelAsh-sd7hw Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your video's. They help me understand firearms much better. I was raised with "long guns" but did not know "diddly" about pistols.

  • @WHOTEEWHO

    @WHOTEEWHO

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you watching

  • @bobroberson9286
    @bobroberson92862 жыл бұрын

    GREAT test here with unbelievable results, would love to see the same test using Buffalo Bore ammo !

  • @rascal0175
    @rascal01752 жыл бұрын

    Blast the Clay Men. They got it coming. You know, Flash Gordon had issues with the Clay Men so you’re not the first.

  • @drunkencracker8517

    @drunkencracker8517

    2 жыл бұрын

    Flash!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh savior of the universe

  • @rascal0175

    @rascal0175

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drunkencracker8517 That’s our boy, circa 1930 something or other.

  • @drewgrows7765
    @drewgrows77652 жыл бұрын

    I am going to start on my 20 sheet drywall Safe Room right away. I assume I will not need to put any fiberglass insulation in between?

  • @sonomafred
    @sonomafred Жыл бұрын

    Is that 1/2" or 5/8" type X (fire-rated) drywall?

  • @penroddavis8098
    @penroddavis80982 жыл бұрын

    Try putting an air gap between layers like going through a wall. I'll bet it is a lot different.

  • @aaronm.3581

    @aaronm.3581

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious of this as well. I suspect it would travel through more sheets. You?

  • @Cartier_specialist
    @Cartier_specialist2 жыл бұрын

    I think you'd be better off using plate steel to line your safe room. I knew your 6 or 7 sheet guess was going to be way low.

  • @bradhaines3142

    @bradhaines3142

    2 жыл бұрын

    dont forget to paint to prevent rust

  • @kusumardikus2274
    @kusumardikus227411 ай бұрын

    Thankyou my friend.

  • @garycuster5031
    @garycuster5031 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with Joe...barrel length on the 44 kept velocity down and penetration.

  • @PaulWolfe1
    @PaulWolfe12 жыл бұрын

    Revealing one layer at a time was stupidly fascinating, loved the suspense.

  • @reddenitup

    @reddenitup

    2 жыл бұрын

    No…just Stupid ..and boring…suspense?? 😂

  • @mbjasondify

    @mbjasondify

    Жыл бұрын

    How to make a 2 minute last 4 hours.

  • @davidd6854
    @davidd68542 жыл бұрын

    Very impressed with the .357. I figured around 10 sheets for both

  • @pauldolan1265
    @pauldolan12652 жыл бұрын

    best fair comparison ive seen literally side by side

  • @rogerthat.112
    @rogerthat.1122 жыл бұрын

    Nice guns and video my guy.. stay safe.

  • @waynebowman2315
    @waynebowman23152 жыл бұрын

    Love the big dog 44s , very surprised with both bullets performance though

  • @rascal0175
    @rascal01752 жыл бұрын

    Consider comparisons with fire resistant and water resistant drywall. You may find considerable differences in penetration.

  • @jt76801

    @jt76801

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing. That looks like half inch drywall which is pretty standard for interior walls. I wonder how 5/8 fire rock would handle some rounds.

  • @rascal0175

    @rascal0175

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jt76801 Me too. I redid my interior walls on a log house. There’s a big difference in drywall types. Since I don’t know the right terms I’ll just say the formulas for the materials are a lot different. I don’t think any of it will stop magnum revolver rounds in any practical way, but reshooting this video would be a good start in getting a baseline.

  • @ninline2000
    @ninline20002 жыл бұрын

    I actually guessed 20 sheets for the .357 and 24 for the .44 magnum. Not really surprising that the rounds didn't expand, the drywall is too soft to cause the rounds to mushroom. Considering how a .22 can punch through drywall you have to know these high power rounds can really penetrate.

  • @hanc37

    @hanc37

    Жыл бұрын

    It proves that magnums are not good for home defense unless you live alone and don't have any neighbors nearby.

  • @dannybosun5158
    @dannybosun51583 ай бұрын

    Very nice video. Well done with out all the technical, gun store, know it all, mumbo jumbo.

  • @WHOTEEWHO

    @WHOTEEWHO

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @liverpool6380
    @liverpool63802 жыл бұрын

    20 sheet of drywall probably cost more than the bulletproof 😂

  • @bobburnitt5389

    @bobburnitt5389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes and one must think of the LOAD on the flloor and walls.

  • @s9plus20
    @s9plus202 жыл бұрын

    Nice guns! Very interesting results, I didn't expect that outcome. I too expected around 7 or 8 deep. It would be really interesting to see the exact same test with a 9mm, 380 and 22 from pistols, perhaps 45 and 40 too. Lots of people carry 9mm and 380, I would especially like to see those results.

  • @theantiveganchannel3596

    @theantiveganchannel3596

    2 жыл бұрын

    meh a cellphone lithium battery can stop a bullet completely 9mm

  • @davem4169
    @davem4169Ай бұрын

    Fantastic "REAL WORLD" test Whooti, as others pointed out, the lack of expansion was due to non hydrostatic pressure, pass it through some water in a gallon jug and then through drywall and you would have stopped at 4 or 5 and good expansion

  • @billbright1755
    @billbright17552 жыл бұрын

    Gypsum board, or drywall, they use that stuff in cement to control cure rate in concrete. Early bullet proof jackets, before Kevlar, were lined with it but results were disappointing. Jacket had to be so thick wearer couldn’t move.

  • @smartass6071
    @smartass60712 жыл бұрын

    The dry wall was back to back. It would have gone through many more if the dry wall was spaced out like a normal wall with 4'' studs. Provided you didn't hit a stud. At 17 layers it could potentially go through 8 or more rooms if it didn't hit a stud.

  • @chrischalkley8571

    @chrischalkley8571

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was going to post that if walls had spacing the bullet would have lost momentum between walls

  • @jamesharvey446
    @jamesharvey4462 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is an expert. The test should have been with barrel lengths of equal length. Velocity is directly related to barrel length. I am surprised that the hollow point did not expend more. A solid would have penetrated further. Same as the guy below.

  • @douglasroseveare7295

    @douglasroseveare7295

    2 жыл бұрын

    Since they are different caliber and bullet weight it really doesn't matter what the muzzle velocity is because the energy would never be the same without a severely down loaded 44 round and a heavily uploaded 357. At the same time there is still a ton of powder that is burning after a 44 bullet leaves a barrel twice that length or even a 357 for that matter. The only way to get it exactly the same muzzle velocity even with the same length barrel would be to move the line for one gun or the other so that the velocity is the same on impact. In which case the energy of the 44 would be way more. Because, as I am sure you know, bullet weight and velocity are the 2 factors in determining energy. I was surprised how little the difference in penetrating power was with a point blank shot though. Obviously the 44 would still be hitting harder even with the shorter barrel so the diameter of the bullet creates more drag in the drywall. In a defensive situation I wont be taking long to decide my 357 will take care of business.

  • @jamesharvey446

    @jamesharvey446

    2 жыл бұрын

    I shot high-power pistol Silhouette for several years. Started with a 6" Python, I hit 31, and 18 fell. The 44 was better but nothing like the 7mmBR. What I was trying to state was that it was a poor comparison and generally unequal. In my opinion, the 44 can do everything the 357 can at about double the results.

  • @douglasroseveare7295

    @douglasroseveare7295

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesharvey446 Right I understand what you were saying. The cartridges are not even in the same category really, regardless of barrel length. which only helps to a certain extent anyway. It would have to be a lot longer for all the powder to fully burn for either of these magnums and by then generally speaking with a magnum the bullet is long gone at 1400+feet per second out a 3 1/2" or a 6" barrel. This is a decent comparison as far as point blank penetration though. Not sure if there was ever any doubt which one has more energy because it is still a 240 grain bullet travelling roughly the same speed as a 150 grain bullet in this test even though the barrels are different. That is what I think the test is about rather than making sure the guns are the exact same dimensions. It isn't a level playing field to start with so why make sure the barrels are the same length?

  • @francemirbarradeoliveira5298
    @francemirbarradeoliveira52982 жыл бұрын

    wonderful weapon red hawk is...this is it!!!!

  • @romanhardware
    @romanhardware Жыл бұрын

    Out of all the American made revolvers, which one is the best for CCW and home defense?

  • @dudley5658
    @dudley56582 жыл бұрын

    Everyone said I was crazy for putting 24 layers of dry wall throughout my house. Who cares if the bed no longer fits.

  • @jorgemelchorgreco1813

    @jorgemelchorgreco1813

    2 жыл бұрын

    For safety I think is better to use bricks. May be with 24 layers you can stop a revolver bullet but not an assault rifle one.

  • @davelowets

    @davelowets

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jorgemelchorgreco1813 Can't understand sarcasm?? 🤷🏻

  • @shoppe99
    @shoppe992 жыл бұрын

    I believe a better test would be to have allowed 2 inches between each sheet of wallboard, you might find out that the bullets would go through more sheets. With the sheets pressed up against each other think it would take more energy to push the backside paper into the next sheet of wallboard. Obviously walls are not built with the wallboard stacked one next to the orher. I'd like to see another test with two by four studs with wallboard on each side.

  • @yankeetraveler1118

    @yankeetraveler1118

    11 ай бұрын

    I concur. The space between would allow for greatly different energy trasfer as the drywall would be allowed to flex as well as not pushing the paper into the next sheet. Probably would not need a full two inches either. Just a 1x1 would do the trick.

  • @statedlymetro7610
    @statedlymetro76107 ай бұрын

    Would an FMJ go through more? Honest question. I feal like a hollow point would start to function before penetrating.

  • @WHOTEEWHO

    @WHOTEEWHO

    7 ай бұрын

    Probably

  • @brucejordan9073
    @brucejordan9073 Жыл бұрын

    Is this a good comparison . Short barrel , long barrel. 't don't about small arms , but I do know about Tank barrels . The longer the barrel , the more the muzzle velocity , the more penetrating power. Would have inches more in barrel length of the two revolvers made a difference in the test results

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