Got really good luck on that buy, was looking forward for a repair but in all honesty it's still a good video. I love seeing consoles I never seen or heard about. Keep it up.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. We'll repair one on the channel soon I hope.

@drachengott95

2 жыл бұрын

It's nice to be surprised and have both working as is. It would have been fantastic if you got the cardboard outer sleeves with the other games. The jewel case was in a paper box like the nes, snes, etc with the artwork. Keith Courage in Alpha Zones came with the system and was only in a jewel case.

My aunt worked for NEC of America back in the early 90’s. I remember one summer when she brought over 3 TG16’s new in boxes and a bagful of games for me and my cousins. We played the CRAP out of these. Splatterhouse blew my mind. Neutopia was also a hit. I still remember the soundtrack. We had the TurboTap and had an AWESOME time playing MotoRoader with my cousins. Still one of my all time favorite games. Great job on the video. Brings back great memories.

Holy shit, when did they become so expensive? I bought a mint condition boxed turbo grafx 16 three years ago, for £115.

@Porygonal64

Жыл бұрын

2020 helped severely drive up video game prices

@pdxfunk

Жыл бұрын

It's what I call "vintage hysteria". Kicked in like 5 years ago. Same with stereo equipment and music instruments.

Perhaps I'm just particularly unlucky, but for me, "untested" on Ebay usually means... "It's f***ed. I spilled coffee on it, it stopped working, so I opened it up, stripped a bunch of screws because I didn't have the right screwdriver, and snapped some of the plastic standoffs. Then I proceeded to poke around the motherboard with a $15 soldering iron from Target, melting components, lifting traces, and leaving big globs of solder in random spots. To my surprise, this failed to coax the console back into life, so now I present it here for you to buy."

@MrCumstein

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. That's exactly why I expect these to be entertaining videos when I buy them untested but I dunno I've had some pretty good luck with my "for parts" finds. I think the majority of resellers are honest folks trying to make a living on eBay but there will always be people that will misrepresent something to make a bit of money.

That sticky circle you peeled off the inner tray is supposed to be there, it helps hold the game card in place

I personally have found that the majority of the “Broken” items I buy on eBay are actually functional and if not it’s generally something really simple. I bought a bunch of Sega genesis consoles that the seller said didn’t power on. A few minutes into testing I realized that all of them simply had damaged LEDs and everything else worked fine. You just never know though. I have had working SegaCDs that became major projects. Was hoping to see you do some repairs on this one as it’s one of the few consoles I don’t have. Great video as always! #gamegear

@Tolbat

2 жыл бұрын

Bought a sega saturn for 60 bucks. Allegedly wouldn't read disks. Its worked flawlessly for two years now.

@techtomek5062

2 жыл бұрын

Yes also had hardware that was sold as non-functional GPU, think some people hardly bother and just want to sell quickly. Next to trash can once i found a PS2 Slim, cleaned runs perfectly. OK new hardware, but funny, 3 year old 24" monitor, thought ok capacitor problem. No user error, the monitor was manually set to DVI and has shown no picture with HDMI , runs like new xD

@musicvideoenhancer

2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a Mega CD model 1 in junk condition, it starts but freezes on the first frame of the bios screen. I bought a kit of capacitor caps for it, I hope that's the problem. If didn't work, I'll buy an eprom with bios and see if it's the eprom that it's mal functioning.

@ToxcynArcade

2 жыл бұрын

@@musicvideoenhancer its something with the battery. I lifted a pad replacing my Battery. Same exact issue. Starts and instantly froze on bios. It is repairable but I gave up after so much soldering.

This is a pretty nice score! I've been holding back on getting a TG16, but videos like this always bring out the itch again.

This guy is my brother from another timeline. His cleanliness and desire to refurbish everything is after my own heart. So satisfying.

Wow...does this ever take me back. I used to work at toys r us way back when these first came out. I worked in the "security booth" where you'd go to pick up game cartridges and consoles and stuff like that. I also had the "job" of demonstrating the systems to customers. This meant I had the key to the case and I would open it up, pop in whatever game they wanted to try out and then we'd play a little 2 on 2. Suffice it to say this was part of my job I REALLY liked. I vividly recall "Keith Courage" and how everyone was just blown away with it.

Thanks for showing how you clean the stuff. Feels good...

I love your organization skills and your shelves. What a comfortable space!!!!

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I definitely enjoy my workbench area!

Excellent pickup. Love how clean your consoles and accessories look after you test them or repair them.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kind sir.

@wallyf7020

2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD my pleasure. After seeing your video, you inspired me to but a turbo also and attempt to repair it

Those are quite the find(s)! This Saturday just got better. Love the vids and patiently await the next one

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much. Cheers!

As someone who collects video games, It's satisfying seeing the meticulous detail that you put into refurbishing whether it's something like capacitor replacement or even case replacement. Keep up the good work making quality content #gamegear

would I pay 350$ for all of that.. HELL YEAH I WOULD. The controllers, adapters etc alone go for small fortune. Also I've always wanted a turbo16 in my collection but given how poorly they sold in the west, ever increasing prices for games and most "if not all" needing repairs.. well let's just say it's never going to happen now lmao. That aside I'm looking forward to seeing you tear one down & fix one.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Thats the nice thing about emulation, makes all these obscure treasures accessible to all retro fans, but I agree it's out of reach for most folks. If I wasn't getting them "for parts" I'd probably never pick one up.

@CecilTheDarkKnight234

2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD Mmm that makes sense and yeah I fully support emulation when there is no other viable option. Still I would at least like to get my hands on a working PCE. This way I will finally be able finish off my classic 8/16bit console collection.

Oh man I forgot how much I loved this gaming console as a child. Wish I would have caught this video 10 months ago. Instant sub from me!

Glad to see this was an easier workload than the Game Gear marathon! It was still cool to watch and learn.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Lol yeah, I should keep that in mind. The effort/reward on that series was quite low (granted getting a video out of it was still worthwhile).

Thank you for your amazing videos, they are very soothing and therapeutic. And, you have learned me more about soldering than the basics at school. 👍

@BorderlineOCD

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the Super Thanks and glad you're finding the content useful!

@vinegarfly

Жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD Always great 👍

this channel is awesome man! I was entertained with the gamble of things. Just some feedback. Thanks for taking the time to make videos.

Informative video as always. As a long time owner/fan of the TG-16 devices, I would certainly check the following: 1. The RF input is a known failure point. The port can break away from the board causing a fuzzy/lost video signal. As you noted, you did test/see that the RF inputs work which is good. 2. Many Turbo systems (and others from this era) have capacitors which have failed (or will soon fail). This can cause issues with lost video, lost sound, or both. Might be worth seeing a capacitor replacement video if you're up for it - maybe with one of the known defective units you are planning to buy. 3. While significantly more expensive, might be interested in a Turbo Express (their handheld unit) which is kind of a technical marvel but does suffer from the same points of failure. Finally - I recently took a gamble on 'defective' Atari Lynx unit that was sold as having no power. I received the unit which had some corrosion in the battery compartment and once I cleaned it up (and put a game in the unit), it operated perfectly. I'm not sure the seller realized that the Lynx (like the Jaguar) will not power up without a game inserted in it.

Im so happy for you bro. I was the 1 kid that had TG16. I was 12 and I left it at a friends house over night and he moved to another state the next day , without telling me .....

6:39 Lol, the Post Office will get their money on the back end for that package. They’ll charge eBay who will charge that dudes account in a few months. 😂

I absolutely love your channel! Keep on going! 👍

I'm still happy for you that those consoles were ok even though there was no repair done. Keep up the nice work on your videos. A++ #gamegear

Bought my turbo graphic 16 with two controllers, AV cable, power supply and controller splitter and the person on eBay said it was tested and working, but as soon as it arrived I tested it out and had no power. I couldn’t even believe it. 200$ man… like really dude. lucky for him I like fixing game consoles or else I would be absolutely livid.

Congrats on the working systems. I would highly suggest recapping these because they are notorious for having leaking caps.

It took me forever to find a TG16 without those weird gashes in them ..I finally found a mint one 2 years ago after about 10 years of looking

This was a really common system back in the day. There was a big Turbo section at Toys R Us and these things were sold just about everywhere. At the time, the system & games were a bit cheaper than Sega Genesis. Due to this, a lot of my friends' parents had decided "this is the system for my kid!" The Turbo Duo on the other hand, was a pricier system. I recall I was the only one of my friends who had that model. Kind of wish I still had the Duo today.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Nice that you had the Duo. I'd love to get my hands on one at some point.

Great video! Those systems and games look almost new now. One thing you should be aware of is the flexible plastic sleeves for the HuCard games will break down over time and cause damage to the HuCard and manual. I recommend using baseball card or Tyvek sleeves.

@marcellachine5718

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Just like some of the rubber on my 2002 Samsung cellphone getting all gummy over time. Literally like the texture of a wet gummy bear.

Never heard of this system before, but always nice to see old systems restored and rescued from the trash. #gamegear

I miss my old TG16. I lost it in a move about 7 years ago. It was still in the original box, Styrofoam AND plastic bag it came in. I loved that thing as a kid, and just gravitated away from it due to not many places selling the card games back in the day that and the PlayStation came out. I had the turbo tap, three controllers and the arcade joystick (whatever it was called). I only remember having like four games though. Legendary Axe, Keith Courage, TV Sports Hockey and Splatterhouse. I was surprised on how efficiently they made the case around the board. I was disappointed that I didn't get to see more of the board though. Ill have to check your shop for refurb stuff I guess and hope to get lucky.

1:52 I think the reason it's a 5 controller multitap instead of the usual 4 is because of some of the sports games like basketball or hockey games will field 5 players at a time, so a 5 player multitap would allow you and your friends to play as the entire team for those particular sports games. Local multiplayer was much more popular for sports games back in the 1990s up to the mid 2000s, so that seems like the most likely reason for the multitap being like that. 7:58 The back cover I think is used to protect the rear parts of the console from dust buildup, as well as giving the exterior a more rectangular shape when you're not using the console.

@BorderlineOCD

Жыл бұрын

I hadn't thought about 5 player sport games. That kind of makes sense. Very interesting.

25 years later.... still kicking myself for my turbografx and games going missing or being sold or whatever happened to them. Think they got lost in a move. So many good memories with that console.

This is the good karma to offset the bad from those Game Gears, 2 good pickups!

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Ha thats true. Thank you.

Just found your channel today after my blue yeti mic's USB broke. Love to see someone picking up old tech to repair it (or in this case... NOT fix it 😂)

love me some TG16. That and the neo geo were the only two 'other' consoles that really were solid.

I used to own this and the portable one. In europe, on its left side they had a big din-style conector out of the box and included the rca leads

I won't lie, I am a bit disappointed to not see a repair video. However, I am glad that you got two good consoles. I never knew much about these consoles either, and around that time I was all about the SNES and Genesis, so not sure it would have mattered if I knew about them. I look forward to you finding some non-working ones. :)

Happy for you that the systems are ok, sometimes sellers know that they are f up so they sell as untested, the prices of old systems are crazy, some years ago those systems could be found on trash, today they cost a fortune! I bought a mint boxed pal turbografx for 50 euros some years ago 😊

KZreadr Retro Repairs got 2 of em not working before. Turns out one of them had a large crack on the main board. He never did attempt to repair it, but I'd love to have watched it being done. Considering how expensive these are, a cracked board is still worth fixing it.

Your very knowledgeable and fun to watch 🤓

When I started watching this guys video I thought man this guy is such a nerd. After I finish watching this guys video I realize this guy is a total nerd so I subscribed.

Thanks for pointing out those odd 'burn' like marks on the system, ive always wondered why the TurboGrafx-16 always has those odd scratches in them. Like ALOT of the hardware with the Turbo does that.

Yay another Borderline OCD video perfect :-). Your soldering is *chefs kiss* Edit- LOL no soldering in this video, but I love you are one of console restorers that very clearly loves video games.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Lol thanks. Indeed it's a labor of love my friend.

I've had this happen a few times where I order something to repair for a project and find out nothing is wrong. Usually ends up being something to clean in the end.

Some new guys in town. Fun ride. :)

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

I have finally arrived. You're welcome.

the TG16 is a fun system, there's a good number of really fun games. They do tend to have leaky caps (especially the duo's with the cd drive built in) and boards can get eaten up ... repaired a number of them over the years

Finally some Turbografx-16 love!

Your excitement is palpable.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

So I have been told.

There is a fairly simple mod you can do to play PC Engine games as well. Two HU-Card pins are flipped on the PC engine versus the TG-16. Way back in the day I put in a toggle switch on my tg-16 to be able to play both systems games. I highly recommend Kai’s 1943 PC engine game!

Man that brings back memories lol had one with alpha zones as a kid but after a couple years lost it in a flood with most of my other consoles

Congrats on the good luck also kinda sad that there was no "fixing" haha But at the same time good on you !

I started to buy stuff from eBay in the last couple of years (I'm a Brazilian living in Japan), and one thing that I thought it's funny, is that itens from the USA, would value a little more if people actually cleaned the itens before taking pictures and selling it. I bought an Atari Jaguar in working condition, but it's just all dusty. My Snes Killer Instinct, all dusty too, the "repair" was only to clean the cartridge. In Brazil and Japan, it's common sense that you clean it before selling, to look in better shape and you can ask for a little more money.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised the Japanese are very clean and anal with their online listings. The few things I bought from Japan were some of the best packaged items I received as well.

I've sold a few things on ebay as "not tested" or "not working". For me, it's easier just to unload the thing for whatever I can get vs pay to diagnose and fix. I just get rid of the thing. Win-Win for seller and buyer.

I've never even seen a turbografx in real life! I don't know much about the system or the games on that system, so I was really curious to see more. Great both were working, but at the same time, too bad that they were 😅 I would never be able to fix something myself, but your videos are super entertaining, thanks 😊

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

That kinda how I got my PC Engine Briefcase Unit, which the CD rom2 had a copy of Side Arms Special in it. The whole unit was in excellent condition and it worked, minus the CD rom2; which only needed a new gear. Very common issue with those and cheap and easy fix.

Great buys.

Great tactic! Thanks for sharing your secret recipe! 😃

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Ha, have at it and I hope you score some good deals.

the more stuff i have been playing from turbographx the more underrated it starts to feel neutopia 1 and 2 have been my latest favorites

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Hudson made a lot of great games! I'm not surprised there are hidden gems in this system's catalogue.

Great video & great finds!

I love when items are listed for parts simply because the item is not tested. I’ve bought so many psp for 15$ or less and all it needed was a new battery. Some the batteries are fine but the charging port needed repair and works good as new. As long as I can get my money back if it is broken selling for parts. I look forward to buying cheap gaming stuff at flea markets just to fix. Most of the time it’s working.

And here I was thinking that an Atari Jaguar had taken a swipe at the TG-16 haha.

Great video. This time luck was on your side... well, that's fair after the master system repair with the broken traces and the 2 game gears screen issues 😂

Nice one, congratulations on getting a TurboGrafx-16. I've been interested in these awhile, as we didn't see much about them in Australia. I have some of the PC Engine variants, I would like to use them more, but buying RPG's for them is expensive. I would love to get D&D:Order of the Griffin for example, but fear I'm too late on that one. But definitely a library of interest.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Is your PC Engine modded to accept TG-16 HuCards?

@snowman5020

2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD No, so I think I'll just settle for emulation for now.

3:15 Just a headsup, music hear such as guitar/bass pedals etc etc are usually all centre negative and 9v, although 18v is a thing too just much less common. If you're ever stuck for a power supply for a centre negative console, they make a great alternative

a handy thing for hu cards is they fit inside of anti-nfc credit card sleeves you can get from ebay, they help stop them rattling around in there :D

You should look into some of the mods you can do to those two. I know there is some preventive maintenance can be be performed as well. Caps etc.

Lime green for that component adaptor was a choice.

Man TG16 are crazy expensive. I’m glad I went with a PC-Engine instead. I’ve had my luck with untested consoles too. Bought 5 ps1 from buyee for us35 and besides some rust on the rca connectors everything was working. Even the disc drives.

I have bought 2 non working Turbos that have worked. 1 has some issue where it won't display video (audio was there) on RF but otherwise fine. The other worked perfect.

Always a satisfying watch, your humour makes me smile too👍🏻 #gamegear

Loving the repair videos. I never even knew power supply's could be centre negative. I will have to go back and check my old consoles that "never" worked. #gamegear

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Now you know, and hopefully it helps you with a faulty system in future. BTW I think you might have meant to post this comment on another video so maybe you wanna take a second look 😉

First time I heard about TurboGrafx-16 was from the Wii Virtual Console. Not sure if it was a bigger hit outside of North America but I had never heard of it much less seen one.

Great video thanks😄

Couple years back I spotted an ebay listing, buy it now £4 for an Avia watch that said the listing was full of water, required a new battery and didn't work... So I sprung for it thinking it would be a prime resto project and what arrived was a grubby and tarnished but otherwise unblemished condition solid gold Avia watch from 1947 and with two twirls of the winder sprang into life too O.o It keeps better time than a brand new Seiko and I know the gold value alone must be worth more than the £4 I paid. The gods of ebay can be kind and I always know that if I need something the gods of ebay provideth :P

What a cool console never knew it existed

Your in for a treat if you get it working great fun

Lucky duck on those consoles...good buy

after the ordeal you had with the Game gears you needed a win and that was definitely a win for you.

great video as always!

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

i think it will be hard to find one that has been tested and listed as non functional just because the seller knows it would likely be worth even less than just listing it as untested. you definitely got a pretty decent deal. sold my spare with 3 games a couple months ago for $300. even stuff like that multi tap or extra controllers are expensive. $50 for a multi tap or $25 for a aftermarket controller ads up quick. i bought my spare off someone just for the multi tap, extra controller and some games i did't have. luckily broke even and got to keep the extra's

I've bought a few non working nec consoles from eBay. I've successfully repaired them all. Currently working on a pcengine duo since turbo duo's are stupid money. I have gotten it up and running, just waiting on a few parts to region mod it.

consider a capacitor replacement on both consoles, they have the SMD caps that leak...

@captain3186

2 жыл бұрын

TG16 Consoles Do Not have SMD's

@tsxownz

2 жыл бұрын

@@captain3186 true, the smd is in later tg and turbo duo consoles, but there are few other issues like muffled audio, jailbars, etc. never the less is a good thing on a 30 year or so console.

yeah USPS is doing some rule changes more fines etc if not fitting weight size etc an prob some higher rates.

Post office will usually catch people that severely understate the weight and charge their ebay account for the difference. post office distribution centers have scales built into the sorting conveyor that weigh the box and scan the label to compare the weight

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Oh interesting, is that really the case? It was pretty blatant in this case, and I was irked that it might have risked the package not getting delivered...

Sidearms is a classic. My favorite part of the vid! Lol

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually a really fun game I enjoyed it for a good while during this project.

Normally "untested" on ebay means "beyond economical repair but youre not getting a refund and sending it back"

I was actually watching this one on eBay. 😀

1st gen are typically very reliable IMO, much like their PC engine counterparts. The first point of failure typically (as with anything) are the caps in the audio path. IIRC there may be a few tantalum caps in the power side that fail. The joypad ports are fairly robust and I've not came across one with cracked solder joints. The Turbo Duo on the other hand... Sheesh. Every one, a pandora's box.

What are you using the 3G/3GS for?

Also a thought I have about buying the "Untested [Electronics] for Parts" and getting working ones. Is that there is always the chance that somebody will decide that they can get working unites for cheap.

Love refurbishing old consoles 👌👌👌

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying the content.

Every Sega CD Model 2 that I've bought described "non functional" had just needed the pico fuse replaced. One even shipped with the wrong power adapter that blew the fuse to begin with. While the unit is open, you can replace the sram with an fram and the battery will no longer be needed to keep the saves. Of course this result is not guaranteed, your mileage may vary.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Is there a good guide you followed for the FRAM mod? Sounds interesting, first I hear of it.

@my2k2zx2

2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD FM16W08-SG is a direct replacement. Ok to remove the battery after it's in.

Usually when you see a TurboGrafx sold for parts and not working it's because the RF port is bad. A common issue with this machine and most people didn't have any other way to connect it to their television

Another interesting system that I know basically nothing of. All I know is the name and I'm pretty sure I have seen those cartridges on KZread before.

Great video 👍👍👍

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍

I sell on ebay and sometimes when you buy a lot of stuff the price of buying parts for everything to see if it is working outweighs the profit of just selling it "For parts as-is" and you don't have to worry about returns that way.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

It makes sense from a reseller's perspective and I continue to have good experiences on eBay with such listings.

Funny; the Turbografx I bought several years back also didn't work over RF according to the seller, and I bought it as a gamble. When I finally could test it over composite with an EverDrive, it worked flawlessly. Kind of curious if that's a common issue with these systems.

@honestguy7764

Жыл бұрын

You can no longer tune an older console over rf connection as most modern do no longer support analog rf signals

@AceTrainerX3

Жыл бұрын

@@honestguy7764 I actually did test it once over RF on one of my CRTs. And, just like the seller described, it didn't do anything. Once I got the Spark Plug, I was able to test and confirm that the system works just fine over Composite (and, more recently, I've tested it over RGB). The old modulator was just dead I presume.

Interesting. I was always aware of it but never owned one back in the day though we DID rent one and a few games, I liked it but was in no position to buy and nobody else I knew had one. Today I have TWO with composite modded into them, no add-on necessary. I enjoy them with my TG-16 Everdrive which also let's me enjoy PCengine titles on it as well.

@BorderlineOCD

2 жыл бұрын

Nice setup, low fuss and you can play all your favorite games on original hardware. Composite video is plenty to satisfy my retro gaming needs, although with all the RGB mods and upscaler options for retro consoles these days I realize that's not a popular opinion. To each his own. Nice to hear from folks that actually just enjoy the system and its games. Cheers.

Hey I got a challenge for you, about an original NEC Turbo Duo I got since 1990s for repair and S-Video modification... probably region free HuCard too.