It looks so good and that's just the hi build primer with a roller brush. Let it cure good then spray you sanding coat, sand then prime if you need to. Repeat and prepare for final paint. When doing something yourself for the first time, no matter how much you research, you do the best with what info you got, the material specifications and your weather conditions, check, double check and just do it. It's the only way to get that hands on feel and then make whatever adjustments you need and you will get it done right. Can't wait to see the final coat then it's time to turn it over for more work... Lol Well Done, good luck and hope you get good weather to get her done

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure there are many paths to get to the end. I’m a couple steps ahead of the video, so there are some things that are already done. I followed up the high build with a guide coat (powder). Sanded back with 120 longboard, and have just a few places that will take a little more fairing compound. After that, I will put more high build, guide coat again and sand back (RO this time) with 180. I’m hoping that leaves very few issues to go to finish primer, and top coat. Time will tell. Appreciate it.

I always circle the marks on the mixing cup with a sharpie. It's SUPER easy to get lost and miss which of the 9 million marks is the target. Option 2 is to measure each component into its own cup and then combine them. It looks great! It's important to remember that there are LOTS more coats of paint to come, and also that while we all want the work to be perfect, once you flip the boat, no one is ever going to look at the bottom. If you can't see it from 3' away, it's perfect. So it's good to do your learning there. Painting the topside is more visible, but also there aren't any huge expanses of hull to view. The topside is all much smaller, much easier to work panels.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Well, as you can hear through the video I was even talking all different kind of numbers. 12 oz, 8 oz, 5 oz, etc... None of it made sense and I was searching for understanding I guess. It made no sense to me then. Once, I decided to use the cups at 1:1:20%, it gave me a benchmark. It also helped that basically one full cup did half the boat, so I was able to move forward. I also circle or underline marks if it's less than a full cup, I don't know why I didn't this time. I am using the bottom as the learning curve. It won't be perfect and that will show soon. The pad is all out of wack, but no-one will ever see it, and it will still function. I'm okay with that. But, I want the sides to be as good as I can get them. I won't spare any effort on them. I won't spare effort on the bottom, but I do have that realistic view about it. Good things are coming for sure. Thanks for following along.

Man the 2nd coat of primer really shows how well you faired the hull. Looking great!!! Those pin holes, I chased the hell out of them. It was never ending. I gave up and just painted top side paint. All of the small pin holes got filled in. and it was on to the next step.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it shows that it's really fair yet, but I've seen things you haven't seen. That guide coat. Now that stuff was humbling. You will see. But, it also tells the truth and that can't be said of 20 different shades of fairing compound. We made big steps with the high build.

@FishingWithHoang

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigeaux20 I guess what I meant was the lines. You have curved curves instead of straight lined curves. If you get my drift.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there is a lot of curved curves. That's been the cause of sore arms and lack of sleep for a while. I miss my woodworking days where everything was plumb, level, and square. I know how to do that.

Looks incredible Oscar. Great work and thanks for sharing your build with us!

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

It's getting there. I just hope I'm helping someone along the way. Don't do what I did on yours. Keep your fairing thin, and keep after it. It's a struggle but it's fulfilling as well. Thanks dude.

Coming along great man. Get yourself a harbor freight hplv gun and spray it, a lot quicker and gives a way more even finish. I just did this all two months ago. I rolled my first two coats and spent too much time sanding all the rolling imperfections. Ended up spraying three more coats with a 3 gal air compressor and a harbor freight gun, the finish came out 1000 times better. Best of luck, excited to see the completed project

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it, but I have a HVLP gun that I have used, and quite honestly, the rolling part and how the product laid down has been the smoothest part of this whole finish. I screwed myself with my fairing fiasco. The AlexSeal products I bought are designed to be rolled and make an impressive finish. As you know the work is all in the prep work. Honestly I wish I would have put a skim coat of fairing, sanded back, then 3 coats of high build. Sand that back, guide coat, then fair and hi build from there. I’m pretty happy with the high build, but it’s hard to know how much all the work I went through made the high build so productive.

I got faith in you. Looks like you got good coverage and the paint laid down really well for you it will make the next round of sanding that much better. Good job my friend it’s going to come out very nice.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

The primer did go down pretty well, and with the guide coat, it sanded back as easy as sanding with a longboard can be I guess. It’s starting to trend up for sure. Appreciate it.

One other thing is, I love the fact that you are manually doing all the work rather than using powered tools. I did use an orbital sander but I couldn't control it as good as sanding by hand. So I went back to the longboard. Same thing for leveling out high areas with a hand planer. People kept telling me to use an electric planer to make the job easier. This was when i was leveling the sheer line before adding the deck. But they dont think about how easy it is to take off too much. So you end up having to do repairs.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

The hand sanding is a blessing and a curse. I am somewhat proficient with hand tools so it’s not an ability issue, the crux for me is controlling how much trouble I can get myself into along the way. Believe it or not, I got myself into trouble even with the longboard and hand sanding. I will probably cover that later, but I have some waves on the bottom where I focused too much time on what my eye was seeing as opposed to what the board was telling me. At least thats what I think led me astray. It’s not horrible, but it’s what led to the keel pad being wonky. As I have said all along, there is also some satisfaction in the fact that I have done it all by hand, at least this time. If I had it to do over again, I would definitely get an air file, or electric file sander. The time savings is just so extreme. Just going to keep plugging away and get it done as best I can. Thanks fanny pack guy!

@FishingWithHoang

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigeaux20 if you have a aluminum straight edge, you can use that as a guide to find the low areas where you see or feel the wavey surface. The aluminum straight edge laid flat on the surface can conform to the shape of the hull or use the side of the straight edge to check how flat your running surface is. Thats how I found a dip right at the corner of the running pad on my hull. I had to add layers of glass until it sat flush with the straight edge. Not perfect but close enough. Fairing compound flattened it out. I never talked about it but I think my running pad is slightly bowed which is causing porpoising on plane. The trim tabs is what helps but it's pretty much a permanent bandaid to keep the bow down. Fanny Pack Over and Out!

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I think your porpoising is probably more due to weight balance. Too much astern. But, as every major boatbuilder I have talked to told me, it’s a whole lot easier to keep the bow down, than it is to try and get it to come up. These small boats are so sensitive to weight distribution. That’s why they adjustable tabs are so valuable. I don’t know that my wave is something i am going to tackle or just accept at this point. It’s so minor, I think, but I see it. Once I flip it over if anyone else ever sees it, I have bigger problems.

@FishingWithHoang

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigeaux20 With my buddy up front on the bow 230 lbs+, we still get porpoising even with the outboard tucked in. The trim tabs help out a lot! I am already used to trimming the boat depending on weight but it's a bit annoying I have to do it every outing. I enjoy being out none the less though haha.. You're at the point where perfection comes into play. Then you ask yourself how far do you need to take it. Do I keep primering and sanding. or do I just go head and paint. Your hull is faired out really nice at this point with some small imperfections that another layer of thin fairing compound will fix. My opinion, I would pay attention mostly on the side of the hull where everyone sees it. The bottom of the hull, just make sure the running pad is flat and you're good to go! Wonderful wonderful Job! I wish you lived a bit closer so I can bring my fanny pack over to watch you sand...

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I’m learning all I can working on the bottom to hopefully make the sides as best I can. The issues I face now are small like you say as opposed to big imperfections I have been dealing with up till now. That’s progress and I know it. Going to be an interesting path forward, but I think I’m on the right path. The guy paying the bills is on my side so I think we are in a good place. Thanks dude, and there’s nothing wrong with a matching fanny pack and backpack. If you are 60.

Looking great matey

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it. Thanks for checking it out.

You are a good dude for including your struggles. We all have them but not everyone is honest enough to show themselves having them!

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I think self deprecating humor is the best. I wanted to be honest no matter what. I could have easily done a video of the last batch I mixed after I had it figured out and was comfortable, but everyone does that. I don't want to come across like I have it all figured out, because I don't. That's my message with this build. Start where you are, and figure it out whatever that looks like. It's okay to struggle. Persistence wins. Appreciate it.

By the way, congratulations on a major step forward!

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I'm just glad it's moving forward. Too much time away from it, and too much effort not feeling like I was making any headway. Deciding to lay down that high build was a good decision. It's leaped things ahead. You will see them to come. Appreciate it.

I've watched all your post from start till now & I've got to say you have done an amazing job building this awesome flats boat. You have made it look like anyone with a bit of skill could build this (that's credit to you for posting an honest take on this build & I'm sure its not easy & I'm picking the hardest part also is keeping keeping on till the end) 💯😎

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Well I like to think I have above average building skills, but there have been parts where I have felt completely incapable. The processing of glassing, fairing, and making it smooth is something that has been a steep learning curve, but I think I have learned a lot if I were to do it again. I think that’s a bit of an expectation doing something you have never done. But, all that being said, my standard is to do the best of my ability. If there are others who can do it much better than me, and there are lots of them, I just don;t want to look back and think I didn’t put in the effort. I’m okay not having the intricate skills, but I won’t take a shortcut if I can help it. Keeping at it was part of the calculus because life happens and this isn’t my profession. I’d love to earn enough from KZread to do it full time, and I bet that would help, but my expectations are realistic. I started with a goal finish date, but now I’m resolved with a standard to finish to, not matter how long it takes. I appreciate you following along, and I appreciate your comments. The feedback is a big motive to keep pushing.

@NewZealandAnglers

Жыл бұрын

@Bigeaux20 yeah I do get that, & will be watching till the end.

Geez, man. I remember the circle with a pencil and fair phase of my build. I enjoyed every part of my build.... except for the fairing part.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

It will be a part I remember the most. I knew this would be a journey and there was a lot I didn’t know, but this has been the most humbling side of the build. And the most work. But it’s a process that builds on itself in that having gone through this, I will be better equipped to do this phase the rest of the way. I think once it’s starts floating and fishing I will forget about all this, but I’m not sure.

@Picasofly

Жыл бұрын

@Bigeaux20 yeah. This was the first video of yours I watched. I watched a few more last night up to your primer. She's looking real good.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it. There are some things that aren't perfect, but I have to evaluate the route to perfection and weigh that to the expected impact on functionality. This is the battle of not letting perfection be the enemy of really good. Time will tell which route was proper.

Been waiting for this moment. Try using digital scales instead and weighing the paint. Also Idd buy a paint whisk. I personally would have sprayed the boat. Looks awesome can’t wait till too see the end result of your hard work.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it. The reality is, the cups do all the work. I made it hard when it’s very simple. It was just me being nervous working with high priced product I guess. Looking back I can’t imagine what I was thinking. The products are made to be rolled, and they have a rolling additive that will do the top coat I am really excited to see work. Spray finish and all rolling, no tipping. Spraying is good for folks with good guns and who do it a lot. I don’t have the compressor, dryer, gun, or quite honestly the environment. I’m going to ride this horse and finally feel like I made huge strides to making a hell of a finish. I’m back on it now, so hopefully I can get it on the trailer pretty soon.

@cockneypatriot9042

Жыл бұрын

Bro I nearly had too call the coast guard last Saturday. Went out in rib fishing with friend and my outboard quit a good couple of miles out heading right out into the North Sea. Really thought I was gonna be using the radio but luckily I had tools on and stripped carb down and managed too clear out the jets. It now runs better than ever. Must admit my bum was nearly flapping. That North Sea is a bastard at the best of times. 4m soft bottom rib ain’t the ideal vessel for that sea. My bigger boat Idd only venture out there on good weather and I’m monitoring the weather and radio constantly.

@cockneypatriot9042

Жыл бұрын

The fishing went right out the window that day. All we could think about is getting back too land.

@cockneypatriot9042

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigeaux20 You should try tapping up total boat they might send you a decent amount of supplies. They help out a lot of KZreadrs for a promotion

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

@@cockneypatriot9042 yeah I’m worried about them not being excited I’m using AlexSeal paint products. But I’m going to start hitting folks up when I get a little bigger.

I hate painting!!! I'm fixing up a canoe and have been procrastinating the paint for some time now!! I Might try it now!!

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I am certainly not a big fan of painting of all the stuff that has to be done, but as anyone who is good at painting says, the painting part is easy. It’s the prep work that is challenging. Just another piece of the puzzle. If you are regretting it, jump in and get it behind you so you can regret something after that. If it was easy everyone would do it. Thanks for checking it out.

You should have gotten a paint mixing paddle for your drill when you went out for the paint strainers

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

That would have been helpful, but remember I didn’t open the can until after I went out for the strainers. You can bet I have a couple ready to go for the remainder of the build. It was an improvisation in the moment. Redneck 101 at it’s best all the way down to calling it a “drill motor”. If that’s the only “You should have” you found I am feeling pretty good.

@FishingWithHoang

Жыл бұрын

He spent all his money on the paint...

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t even have any money left over for a matching fanny pack…..

@FishingWithHoang

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigeaux20 You can always borrow mine.

Nice. I knew when you got it primed it would look a whole lot better. How long is your boat?

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It also revealed a lot of work to go, but it’s great progress from where I was lost in the woods. This boat is 18’6” I believe. If not just 18’. Specs are on saltboatworks.com. Once again, appreciate it. Keep me straight.

starting to look really damn good man, did the orange peeling go away after the paint dried?

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it. No the orange peeling just dried. However as I have been sanding it smooths out really easy. This shouldn't be the case with the finish primer or the top coat. They are much thinner and will lay down I'm lead to believe. It almost looks like a real boat. She's coming around.

You need to paint them sand

@Bigeaux20

7 ай бұрын

I’m not sure what process you are referring to, but every boat building instruction, like the Gougan Brothers, which is like the gospel in dealing with epoxy, recommends the same process I followed. Glass, fair, high build, and get the surface as perfect as possible before applying barrier primer and topcoat. What aspect are you referencing painting before sanding?

Quick couple of questions. Could you have done away with using the green filler at all? Is there another method?

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

There are a multitude of ways to finish the glass. If I had to do it again, I would have put a thin layer of fairing compound on the green glass resin. Then I would have put down probably 3 coats of high build, then guide coat and fair. After that, I would come back with more high build, guide coat, finish primer, top coat. But, that’s just my opinion having dealt with it up to this point. I did indeed waste time, money, and lots of effort. But, that’s part of the journey for me.

@FishingWithHoang

Жыл бұрын

There are fillers in a powder form for mixing your own. Some of us spent a bit more money on the green fairing compound for the great reviews and ease of sanding.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I have a whole bucket of those powders. Trying to figure out one variable at a time since you won’t help.

@FishingWithHoang

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigeaux20 Hey, I am still working on finishing my boat too..

@NewZealandAnglers

Жыл бұрын

@Bigeaux20 Thanks for that, by the sounds of it ,it is still a big job regardless. 👍

I am working on frs-14, May I know where you bought the Alex seal primer? Thanks!

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry it took a bit to respond. You can go to their website and find your closest dealer. Maybe also check out Boatworks Today and he does some shipping, but as you can imagine there is a cost associated with that as well.

So you gonna call this boat the Bondo bucket ha ha ha hopefully I’m laughing with you. It looks super sweet man. Don’t forget there’s products out there like gator glide. That’ll cover a lot of those little divots and pits. I should also point out if it’s perfect people won’t believe that it’s homemade.

@Bigeaux20

Жыл бұрын

This boat has been called all sort of names so far, but fortunately none have stuck. Bondo bucket would maybe be the nicest of late. I think I have the product line and plan to get the finish I can be happy with sorted now. Big leaps here lately, so hopefully before too long we will see some finish coat curing on this heap. Appreciate you following along. I know you have been subscribed for a bit.