In my short 60+ years of hunting reloading and collecting rifles and having taken more then my share of games is that the coppers are great if you use them properly on the right game for that bullet! Speed of the bullet is very important and if it drops below the proper speed it won’t open up but the opposite can be said about the non bonded lead bullets going to fast and will fly completely apart if going to fast on impact and won’t penetrate! Thanks for the great stories and great info for us newbies 🤔😳😂

I took a .378 Weatherby Mag to Canada Moose hunting back in 2005, and I remember that I had 2 different boxes of cartridges, but I can't remember if they were both manufactured by Weatherby. It was a very accurate rifle with both 325gr and 275gr bullets. It had a 26" barrel and weighed 15 (hundred) lbs. Lol After the first 2 days of carrying that rifle, I switched over to my Ruger 77 in 30-'06 with 180gr Nosler Partition.

Sounds like he has Alaska confused with Southern Africa.

Thanks for mentioning my comment about the recommendation for the 22lr/22wmr rifle.

Great clear explanation of crazy Harry’s side ways question

As far as the gentleman hunting in West Virginia, I agree with Ron in that virtually anything will do for hunting at 100 yds. or less (I personally wouldn't go lower than .243 though). Ron mentioned a lot of different rounds to consider, but my suggestion is to get whatever is affordable and that is readily available in your area. If it were me and all my hunting was within 100 yds. or less, I'd get either a .30-30 or a .243. Both will get the job done perfectly, both rounds are widely available, and are inexpensive compared to most. However, if there are black bears in your hunting areas, I'd go with .30-30 for the extra power. It is perfectly suited for both deer and bears. But if you also want something that can also shoot smaller game like coyote (with the right bullets), then .243 might be a better choice. Deer and bears: .30-30. Deer and coyote: .243. Ultimately, I'd just get something with not much recoil, and that has ammo that is cheap and available to you. However, with all that said, you said you use Marlins in .30-30, so my ultimate suggestion would be to just stick with what you have! Within 100 yds. (or even nearly double that), .30-30 is an excellent, highly effective and incredibly time tested round for deer and even black bears if need be. In my mind, there's no need to re-invent the wheel when you're already shooting an excellent round for hunting at those distances. Plus, by doing so you'd save yourself hundreds of dollars by not having to buy a new rifle and ammo for it that won't do anything more than what you already have. Just stick with that good ol' .30-30 and be happy with it. There's a reason why it's been around for nearly 130 years! It's because it just works!

Happy to hear the 7.7 Japanese mentioned. Close to 300 Savage and 308. Though .311 and .312 diamter bullets limits what you can do with it in terms of modernizing it.

Ron, as I've said before, great facts and content. I live and hunt in Southern Indiana, using AR-15 in 350 Legend with 180 gr. Loads. All 9 deer taken have been one shot kills, even a 234 lb. Buck at 128 yrd. Love your u-tube cast. Steven 7.

@Vikingocazar

8 ай бұрын

Nice work on that gronker!! 🦌

Great one this time as usual. I really appreciate your take on Barnes Bullets. What I’ve found is by hand loading the Sierra Game Kings shoot to the same point of impact. I do usually seat the bullets 0.050” off the lands. I had an older gentleman tell me “the cheapest yet most critical part of any hunt is the bullet, make it the best you buy”. He told me further to shoot Barnes. I haven’t looked back since. I have used lighter weight, faster, flatter shooting Barnes.

I think part of the reasoning for needing a guide in Alaska and some other states is to make sure the proper animals are being taken(age and gender may be requirements). A qualified guide is going to be able to determine this.

All copper bullets don’t have any problem with penetration. It’s proper bullet expansion that MOST can have a problem with IF impact is under 2000 fps. So simply run the numbers and determine at what distance your bullet falls below 2000 fps.

24:09 139 LRX would be a good compromise. That's what I was going to load for my ex when she wanted to get a 7mm-08 for elk hunting

Having shot at many ground squirrels and magpies through the gap in fruit bins, so sideways, your synopsis is correct!

Many of us hand load in South Africa. Factory ammo is just too expensive and scarce.

Another great show, thank you🤠

I never got a chance to hunt in Alaska, but my niece from Oklahoma did and her guide allowed her to hunt and take Black and brown bear with a 30-06! Both with one shot kills.

Great understanding of physics, sir. Thanks for the lesson!

always good Info Ron TY

Ammunition Demystified by Jeff Siewert, just received it in the mail.

Thank you for another enjoyable podcast video. Have a good evening sir.

32:45 agree

In Northwest Washington, most of my hunting is brush. 100 yards & under. My 35 Remington will punch dimes at 100 with minimal recoil from a 200 gr Remington core-lokt.

Well done Sir

A lot of people are confused when they see that copper and copper alloy monolithic bullets tend to be light for caliber. The reason is that copper is only 80% as dense as lead (or looking at it the other way around, lead is 25% denser than copper). This means that a 120 grain Barnes copper bullet is comparable in length, and size to a 140-150gr lead core bullet. The lighter TTSX also requires the same twist rate as the heavier lead-core bullet. A 150gr TTSX might be too long for a 7mm-08. It is is roughly as big as a 185 grain lead-core bullet, and might not stabilize. The heaviest 7mm-08 loaded ammunition that Barnes sells is 140 grain, which is useful to know since they want their ammo to work in factory rifles. If the 150 does not shoot well, you might want to look for some 140's. A bonded bullet would be another good option. I wish you good luck with the hunt!

I’m curious are these live or prerecorded and premiered on KZread?

@RonSpomerOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

Recorded and premiered on YT. The chat room during premier is live. Come join us!

love these vids, ty

Rifle n Handloader Magazines

I shoot the 220gr ELD-X out of my 1:10 twist 30-06 barrel. It's a sharp tipped bullet with a ballistic tip no stability issues here.

Parker-hale used 7-1/2" twist as apposed to the more common 8" twist, in the 270cal. That is why the shoot tighter patterns.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

They did? That's a surprise to me. The standard for 270 Win. with every rifle maker I've checked has always been 1:10 twist.

In Africa where a wounded buffalo could actually kill you there are minimum caliber requirements. Here in the US, where a wounded animal only results in the suffering of that creature and the potential loss of the hunters' meat, we invent various sayings to justify the use of smaller calibers. "Shot placement is key." "No deer will be able to tell the difference." But of course every year there are thousands of deer that get wounded and lost because they actually could tell the difference. Use a cartridge that you can have confidence in and learn to shoot it well. Don't sit there hoping that your light bullet in a small cartridge will be able to kill that elk when the time comes.

Are there any 350 legend lever guns that is tube fed

@Alfs_Armory

8 ай бұрын

That’s 360 Buckhammer

@jfess1911

8 ай бұрын

No, largely because most of the 350 legend bullets are pointed. Like Alfs-Armory said, that is why the 360 Buckhammer was developed.

@carpenterarms8006

8 ай бұрын

@@jfess1911 thanks for the info.

Hi Ron! What is your experience with the speer grand slam bullet? I use 160gr GS in my 7x57 and 250gr in my 35 whelen. I shot one moose bull at 30meters last year with the 7x57 it went straight thru both lungs and the bull ran maybe 100 meters before is died. For the money i think its a great bullet! Adam/sweden

@RonSpomerOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

Used 180-gr Grand Slams in a 300 Win Mag in SA to take nyala, mnt reedbuck, impala, blesbuck, and kudu. All one-shot kills. Not a high B.C. design, but terminal performance seemed pretty good!

What kind of flannel jacket is that? Nice color!

@RonSpomerOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

It's a heavy flannel Orvis branded shirt I found at Costco for cheap. I agree, it's a nice color with unusual intensity. Wish I'd bought two.

The 7.5-55 is good for deer it will shoot a 150 GR 2800 FPS.

@jfess1911

8 ай бұрын

@@FranzAntonMesmer It's fair to say that the 284 Win was inspired by the 7.5x55, but the body was changed to exactly half an inch diameter, the shoulder moved foreword, its angle changed, the neck shortened and the base rebated. It was an attempt to get 270 performance from the newly developed (at the time) model 100 semi-auto and model 88 lever-action rifles. Unfortunately, the max chamber pressure was limited to 56,000psi so its bolt thrust would not exceed that of the 308. This, unfortunately has resulted in SAAMI approved cartridges based on the 284 case to also be limited to 56Kpsi for technical reasons. In strong, bolt-action rifles, 284 and 6.5-284 rifles are commonly hand-loaded to 65,000psi or more while the factory ammo is limited to 56,000psi.

@jfess1911

8 ай бұрын

@@FranzAntonMesmer "... and rebated the rim to .30 Remington diameter" Which is also the rim diameter of the 6.8 SPC. The 6.8 SPC guys got excited to have a source of bolt guns that were just a barrel away from their cartridge. So far, no 400 legends in the shops and, the last I looked, none on the manufacturer's websites.

There must be something to the 280ai because many of the top long range target shooters seem to use it and claim the can get there beat accuracy

@jfess1911

8 ай бұрын

They use custom chambers, though. The SAAMI 280AI uses the same taper-only throat design as the 1950's 280. This was done to allow a simple "clean up' of the old chamber body to the new one. Virtually all competition shooters use the "match style" chambers that have become more popular over the years. They have a section of tight "freebore" to align the bullet before it hits the tapered throat. FWIW, some competition shooters have switched to the 7mm PRC-Wheeler (7PRCW), which is a 6.5 PRC necked up to 7mm. It has performance similar to the 280AI but tends to be a little more accurate. Something about the short-fat case aids more consistent burning of the propellant. Eric Cortina is a big fan of it.

I thought I wanted to hunt AK moose until I saw how big they were .

What about a 1 in 3 twist? I want a 8.6 blackout like 3006

@RonSpomerOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

1:3 twist is what certain bullet lengths and low velocities require to stabilize. Nothing magical or mysterious about it, although there is evidence that the spin rate seems to add to terminal effect.

@jfess1911

8 ай бұрын

You would probably be limited to what bullets could survive such high spin.

Ron and Billy need to quit speculating and read once in a while. Sierra’s website states that their 30 cal., 220 grain Matchking, which is NOT a round nosed bullet, requires a barrel twist rate of 1×10” or faster. What weight pointed bullet do they want to shoot that the 30-06 won’t stabilize?

@roddecker1900

8 ай бұрын

Match bullets heavier 230 > longer.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this info, Scott. The thing about stability with heavy for caliber (and by extension long for caliber) bullets is that it isn't a constant across all rifles/barrels. Stability isn't an absolute. Some barrels will stabilize some 220-gr. designs just fine while others will struggle or fail. Bullet balance has much to do with this, too. Shooters just need to be aware of this if they work with longer and longer bullets in any given rifle. Some factory 30-06 barrels are 1:12 twist, too. Berger states its 230-gr. Hybrid Match bullets require 1:10 twist in 30-06, too.

@scottstruif3939

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@RonSpomerOutdoors That’s right, Ron, and a 1:12 30-06 may stabilize a Berger 230 grain at hunting ranges, even though Berger recommends 1:10. The 230 is equivalent to a 177 gr 7mm and a 142 gr 6.5mm. The earlier commenter mentions match bullets >230, and Sierra indeed makes a 240 gr Matchking, which they recommend spinning 1:8. Does that mean you’d advise against purchasing a brand new 1:10 30-06 rifle because it’s incapable of shooting modern high BC bullets? This whole BC-twist thing is belabored by people who haven’t loaded any and shot them. I’m sure you’ve got a 1:10 30-06 in your safe. Why don’t you load up some 240 gr Matchkings and make a video shooting them? If they keyhole, then we can all cry that our favorite guns are obsolete.

@jfess1911

8 ай бұрын

@@scottstruif3939 No need to get rude. The 1:10 twist of the 30-06 is a carryover from the 30-03 rifle that shot a 220 grain bullet. The decision to keep that twist when the initial 30-06 load was changed to 150 grains was purely based on economics. A 1:12 twist would have produced better accuracy, but Springfield armory had already invested in barrel-making tooling for 1:10 and wanted to change as little as possible for the newer rifle.

@scottstruif3939

8 ай бұрын

@@jfess1911 Ron welcomes ideas for videos. He needs to adduce some empirical evidence once in a while. He’s an experienced hunter who knows his stuff. People trying to learn rely on his expert advice.