32. Chemical and Biological Effects of Radiation, Smelling Nuclear Bullshit

MIT 22.01 Introduction to Nuclear Engineering and Ionizing Radiation, Fall 2016
Instructor: Michael Short
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Radiation damage to organisms is explained, starting from single electron excitations all the way to DNA/cellular damage, cell division effects, organ and organism-level damage, and radiation-induced mutations. Radiolysis of water is linked between damage to cells and damage to reactor materials. The students then embark on debunking internet articles and poorly-conceived, published scientific studies about whether cell phones cause cancer (they don't!) by identifying incorrect physics, misinterpreted data, conflicting abstracts/conclusions, biased studies, and insufficient sample sizes/statistics. One particular internet blogger is lambasted for his apparently willful manipulation of the truth to push an erroneous message.
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  • @mitocw
    @mitocw3 жыл бұрын

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  • @npxmnpxm
    @npxmnpxm2 жыл бұрын

    Does Prof. Short have his own social media channel? Regular postings to expose junk science would be pure gold.

  • @Born2Losenot2win

    @Born2Losenot2win

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t find any, but that would be gold content ngl

  • @davidblack9071

    @davidblack9071

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would pay money to see his Buster Bluth impressions.

  • @earthquake69

    @earthquake69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidblack9071 God I love that show

  • @changedahanddlessss

    @changedahanddlessss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah seriously… lost credibility in first 2min

  • @clownhands

    @clownhands

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidblack9071 bruh I’ve watched a few of his lecture videos with this nagging feeling…why does this guy seem so familiar. Can’t be unseen 😂

  • @roxybot9840
    @roxybot98404 жыл бұрын

    This professor has great methods in group mentoring for the class, I am so glad I get to view this course.

  • @BottleOfCoke

    @BottleOfCoke

    3 жыл бұрын

    "To me, the most exciring moments in science don't end with the words: "I told you so", vut start with the words: "That's interesting.""

  • @papafrank1301

    @papafrank1301

    2 жыл бұрын

    he waits for someone to answer even if theres big gaps of silence instead of just answering it himself. i like that.

  • @Paraselene_Tao
    @Paraselene_Tao2 жыл бұрын

    I really feel this last bit of the lecture. I have a coworker who is very much a neo-environmentalist. My coworker has even stated that she would leave our workplace if we installed PV cells on the roof because of what she calls "dirty electricity". Last year I gave her a short lecture on how radio and microwave EMR can not ionize human bodies. I quickly described to her the EMR spectrum with its relative energies and wavelengths, and I explained the bond disassociation energies for common chemical compounds. I drew the EMR Spectrum, gave her a few important formulas, drew chemical compounds, and brought up images on google. I finished by telling her that radio and microwave EMR don't reach high enough energy to break bonds in her DNA or other important, biological compounds. I'm glad you taught me a little about radiolysis. I didn't know that was the main way that ionizing radiation causes damage to health. Maybe I'll bring that up in my next conversation with her about cell phones "killing people". I already told her that the human body keeps a buffer solution ready to combat free-radicals. She's in her 50's and she's basically a Luddite. I don't expect to ever change her mind about cell phones, PV cells, the moon landing and so on. I work in a small business right now and she's probably my favorite coworker.

  • @JP-fn5xt

    @JP-fn5xt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gun parts maybe ?

  • @Paraselene_Tao

    @Paraselene_Tao

    2 жыл бұрын

    What about gun parts? You mean what's the small business I'm in? You're right, we do manufacture mechanical parts: high pressure control valves and regulators. I'll add that a few assemblies are electromechanical, but over 95% of what we build is purely mechanical. Of course, our CNC machines and other tools are electrical. She works in an office area away from the machines.

  • @TheBods666
    @TheBods666 Жыл бұрын

    I am a RADAR technician. I work with RF in a variety of contexts every day. I had an ex-colleague (ie he worked in a different department in the same organisation) try to tell me that 5G is government-weaponised RF.

  • @a_diamond

    @a_diamond

    Жыл бұрын

    ... you'd think he would be able to literally just ask you guys about it and set his mind at ease...????

  • @user-gp6kt4yl8f

    @user-gp6kt4yl8f

    26 күн бұрын

    I had a colleague who new that guy and said he just misunderstood and panicked. Shall we continue the competition of trustworthy sources?

  • @Morgauseable

    @Morgauseable

    9 күн бұрын

    Might be able to top this. MIGHT. Sort of. Molecular biologist by trade, but this happened while conducting sleep research. I had a then-colleague present me with a weird necklace he made of wire and what I think were fake pearls, which he paired with a DVD that had a picture of a wizard on the cover and claimed it would teach me the secrets of the universe. He also told me that carbon dioxide from natural and mechanical sources was different. I attempted to point out the identical molecular structures in question, but he wasn’t having it.

  • @TheBods666

    @TheBods666

    9 күн бұрын

    @@Morgauseable there is a video of Neil Degrasse Tyson discussing the how we know the post industrial atmospheric CO2 increase is from to man made sources due to a slight atomic mass difference between natural and artificial sources. I don’t know enough chemistry or physics to be able you debate him or question that assertion too much.

  • @NuncNuncNuncNunc
    @NuncNuncNuncNunc2 жыл бұрын

    @50:20 Number of reported cancers also goes up with increased screening. The actual rate in the population hasn't changed, they just become known.

  • @Taithmhionna63
    @Taithmhionna634 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loved this! As a physicist with no background in biology it's exactly what I needed. Great topic to connect the 3 sciences.

  • @citricdemon

    @citricdemon

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm also a Physicist, and I've run a triathlon. Also I'm vegan.

  • @happyhome41
    @happyhome412 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely LOVE the INTEGRITY of the speaker - so refreshing in this world of the approach of equating volume to credibility.

  • @JimAllen-Persona

    @JimAllen-Persona

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well put.

  • @miloraddjuric9588
    @miloraddjuric95882 жыл бұрын

    I have no school knowledge of this, but I find it really interesting. Somehow it feels like I understand it. Great instructor also.

  • @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058
    @jakkuwolfinsomnia80582 жыл бұрын

    As a Biochemist with a relatively basic physics background, this is very interesting to know. It complies with what I would expect but the actual damage to the many equilibria happening at once really indicates a far greater complexity than described here. Useful to understand which types of particles have the greater damaging impact

  • @fukenbiker

    @fukenbiker

    2 жыл бұрын

    The destruction was nuclear compared to conventional demolitions. The Ground Zero workers cancer is consistent with radiation poisoning, is it not? There just wasn't enough benzene there. And this asbestos reason is lacking.

  • @Calyrekt

    @Calyrekt

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you’d spare your time, can I ask what it is you do as a biochemist? It’s of particular interest to me because that is my current major and want to know what others have done with it.

  • @TheJames2488
    @TheJames2488 Жыл бұрын

    Have been watching this course for a few days now, love this professor!

  • @zoozolplexOne
    @zoozolplexOne2 жыл бұрын

    i am delighted to watch this course. what a good presentation !!!

  • @scowell
    @scowell2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for numbering these.

  • @Sadsoft
    @Sadsoft2 жыл бұрын

    When did Buster Bluth start teaching

  • @kcgunesq
    @kcgunesq2 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't pass the prerequisite for this class' prerequisite, so I understood very little of this. That said, the professor is a great lecturer.

  • @svict4
    @svict42 жыл бұрын

    "You, a giant sack of water" hits hard

  • @JustMe00257
    @JustMe002572 жыл бұрын

    What's quite amazing is that the answers given by the students to the questions asked are typically correct. Bright people.

  • @pizzafrenzyman

    @pizzafrenzyman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Especially when Sarah ended that long awkward silence.

  • @jimkennedy4509
    @jimkennedy45092 жыл бұрын

    Love the title! And the lecture is great also.

  • @BronxGrrlX
    @BronxGrrlX6 ай бұрын

    I'm part of the cryonics community and i have posed this question of how much radiation-induced damage could accumulate over time at several meetings over the past several years. You must consider that DNA repair had been shut down and damaged DNA will definitely accumulate. So i can assure that this is on the table as a question, and that it will be considered. The easiest solution will be to place sheilding around the storage capsules. Certain pharmaceuticals enhance dna repair systems and those should also be used.

  • @citricdemon

    @citricdemon

    2 ай бұрын

    Won't shield you from damage coming from inside. Although admittedly, still useful.

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison84782 жыл бұрын

    No doubt about it, frequent cell phone use can be a serious threat to your health. Just not because of the radiation.

  • @Anonymousduck161
    @Anonymousduck1612 жыл бұрын

    This professor is incredibly based. He’s extremely competent and a fabulous speaker but he calls bullshit where he sees it.

  • @danv8718

    @danv8718

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. He clearly has a gift for teaching. What a privilege being able to "attend" his lectures, even if it's just online.

  • @basedgodstrugglin

    @basedgodstrugglin

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s… not based.

  • @Systematiclol
    @Systematiclol2 жыл бұрын

    Please dont stop posti g your vids i want to watch them alll and learn

  • @dancooper8551
    @dancooper85512 жыл бұрын

    Excellent lecture!!

  • @danmiller2177
    @danmiller2177 Жыл бұрын

    Good information.... Thanks....👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver2 жыл бұрын

    Michael Short is most welcome to guest star on the Frivolous Gravitas podcast any time

  • @vladpetric7493
    @vladpetric74932 жыл бұрын

    Almost all the charts in spurious correlations have fewer than 15 data points. Many would be much weaker if more data points were available/considered.

  • @a_diamond
    @a_diamond Жыл бұрын

    1:15 That little smile at "my favorite are all of them* xD

  • @nazmulhaque4481
    @nazmulhaque44814 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @geordie2501
    @geordie25012 жыл бұрын

    This is way above my pay grade!

  • @SafetyLucas
    @SafetyLucas2 жыл бұрын

    2:58 "We've been approximating humans as water" lol

  • @pizzafrenzyman

    @pizzafrenzyman

    2 жыл бұрын

    a "bag" of water

  • @redactedbananas
    @redactedbananas2 жыл бұрын

    Question for the professor: What would be the increased risk of cancer if somebody pretended a banana was a phone all the time as a joke?

  • @xandersafrunek2151
    @xandersafrunek21513 жыл бұрын

    I am now curious about studies of individuals/groups which live near cell phone towers.

  • @Just.A.T-Rex

    @Just.A.T-Rex

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why it’s the same type of energy. Don’t hurt you unless you get be beamed with a direct super high source and get cooked. You would be dead by now.

  • @xandersafrunek2151

    @xandersafrunek2151

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Just.A.T-Rex All I know is that it is not ionizing. So no damage directly from ionization.

  • @xandersafrunek2151

    @xandersafrunek2151

    2 жыл бұрын

    @8Truth Seeking Yeah. It's like this: all I said was that I am curious. That is what makes me a better scientist.

  • @xandersafrunek2151

    @xandersafrunek2151

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Captain Chaos I never said cancer.

  • @shrawins
    @shrawins2 жыл бұрын

    Bro what is this dude's name ? I love him

  • @mitocw

    @mitocw

    2 жыл бұрын

    The instructor is Prof. Michael Short. See ocw.mit.edu/22-01F16 for more information and materials. Best wishes on your studies!

  • @tacticoolrick5562
    @tacticoolrick55622 жыл бұрын

    A man after my own heart. This man has a nose for Internet bullshit.

  • @okuno54
    @okuno542 жыл бұрын

    Oh no no, he fell into the trap! The obvious causation between arcade revenue and comp sci doctorates (kids get inspired to become programmers) doesn't explain those data, because that effect should have a ~20 year delay!

  • @Adrian-yf1zg

    @Adrian-yf1zg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wtf

  • @ColonelAckerson117

    @ColonelAckerson117

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is either a joke or you didnt get they point when he joked about it.

  • @Shotblur

    @Shotblur

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, kids aren't the only people influenced by arcade machines.

  • @JimAllen-Persona

    @JimAllen-Persona

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean other than fighting a land war in Asia? (Princess Bride)

  • @Pinkielover
    @Pinkielover2 жыл бұрын

    love the title

  • @a_diamond
    @a_diamond Жыл бұрын

    Cryogenics: We seem to assume that people of the future will keep making progress, and that the frozen people would be treated with all due deference and care. That might be true, but we have no guarantees of that.. It's not that they expect the process to be without issues, they are trusting the future to have answers and solutions that we don't.

  • @a_diamond
    @a_diamond Жыл бұрын

    Free radical: "No!! I am radically FREE!!"

  • @JK-zx3go
    @JK-zx3go2 жыл бұрын

    I wish I was starting my University education again and doing that course.

  • @citricdemon

    @citricdemon

    2 ай бұрын

    Me too, man.

  • @JJJRRRJJJ
    @JJJRRRJJJ2 жыл бұрын

    42:22 The professor did a poor job debunking #4. In this case, I wouldn’t say that the author’s summary of the study’s findings was necessarily dishonest. Based on the abstract, the meta-analysis _did_ appear to find a “harmful effect” from cell phone use, and it seems like it was competently performed. It’s pretty lazy to just skip ahead to the “limitations” section and cherry-pick one sentence, pretending it nullifies the findings. You could play this game with ANY study, no matter the quality. All competent research examines potential shortcomings of the work, and notes areas which require further exploration. This doesn’t mean you throw away the study’s findings.

  • @NormReitzel
    @NormReitzel2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Also emissions from coal post-burn.

  • @TonySopeano46
    @TonySopeano462 жыл бұрын

    I hope he talks about those pesky bloodsuckers around Agroprom.

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison84782 жыл бұрын

    58:00 potentially good point about China and rare earths and wind turbines, but I notice a distinct lack of numbers, I wonder if anyone has studied this in detail. IAC that does not amount to an inherent risk in wind energy, and it can be expected to decrease over time.

  • @citricdemon

    @citricdemon

    2 ай бұрын

    feels like it's blaming the wrong thing, kind of.

  • @virginiahansen320
    @virginiahansen3202 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic lecture! The only issue I had was when he said some forms of "hate speech" were illegal. In Matal vs Tam, a 2017 supreme court decision, all 9 justices affirmed that there is no "hate speech" exception to the first amendment. It's all protected speech. That was a unanimous ruling.

  • @citricdemon

    @citricdemon

    2 ай бұрын

    Interesting. Any rulings so far re: the nocturnal activities of your mother?

  • @citricdemon

    @citricdemon

    2 ай бұрын

    Your mother constitutes a serious radiological hazard because her greatly increased stopping power (attributed to mass)

  • @Doppel_Adler
    @Doppel_Adler2 жыл бұрын

    38:00 emotional faster than logical part of the brain

  • @JP-fn5xt
    @JP-fn5xt2 жыл бұрын

    Geez, Wish I was smart.

  • @benartee9493
    @benartee94932 жыл бұрын

    Interesting aspect on wind turbines at the end. Yes indeed - need to look at it wholesomely. But the sam3 applies to nuclear power in a social context, ie is it realistic to keep it safe. Corruption is a significant issue here.

  • @-szega

    @-szega

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is really unfortunate that the green movement degraded into mostly just virtue signalling. It is a VERY important cause that has no one pushing it forward for real. Just BS like banning plastic straws.

  • @NoConsequenc3

    @NoConsequenc3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@-szega it's not that the green movement only wants to ban plastic straws, it's that the only change the status quo will ALLOW is the banning of plastic straws. Plenty of people want real change, but that doesn't come with job security for those involved.

  • @Oopsiedaisy861
    @Oopsiedaisy8619 ай бұрын

    Buster Bluth?

  • @mysticdeath1848
    @mysticdeath18482 жыл бұрын

    hypixel, i have ansewrs if not already here fusion cant be explained in scoence needs to be done

  • @mysticdeath1848

    @mysticdeath1848

    2 жыл бұрын

    linkage in the grid is a linkage in the grid

  • @mysticdeath1848

    @mysticdeath1848

    2 жыл бұрын

    each account each comment yu leave creates a trace

  • @dominico4231
    @dominico42314 ай бұрын

    I mean, you forgot the coosh, and you could have just said boosh!

  • @elkhankhamzin9346
    @elkhankhamzin93462 жыл бұрын

    TRIM!!!

  • @victorkonon
    @victorkonon3 жыл бұрын

    1 dislike there from someone who stepped into nuclear bullshit

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard3 жыл бұрын

    We should selectively breed things with low g values to space harden them

  • @isbestlizard

    @isbestlizard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or prepare our seed banks for resowing in the nuclear wasteland we're left with. People gonna need their radiation hardened low radioisotope uptake food sources heck

  • @isbestlizard

    @isbestlizard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Space chicken yes

  • @isbestlizard

    @isbestlizard

    3 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't feel morally right being able to patent a bioengineered radiation resistent organism that people would rely on for food, it would need to be an open source space chicken

  • @isbestlizard

    @isbestlizard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine mars as a corporate dysopia with fucking Monsanto suing you if you give an egg away fuck that

  • @damanyocum149
    @damanyocum149 Жыл бұрын

    calling it bullshit at MIT must be rare lol

  • @mikejudge942
    @mikejudge9422 жыл бұрын

    Algorithm

  • @igormarinkovic2392
    @igormarinkovic23922 жыл бұрын

    Microwaves can induce ionization in some settings: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXem1s1moNy2YKw.html

  • @-szega

    @-szega

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's worth pointing out here that you don't need ionization at all to damage tissue with radiation - heat is totally sufficient. RF EM is not usually absorbed much by the body but if you form the right resonance cavities you can get a lot of absorption going. This is why you can e.g. burn your thighs in an MRI if they're just touching, even though normally the 100 MHz or so used for excitation wouldn't be absorbed by your flesh.

  • @vallivergano239
    @vallivergano2392 жыл бұрын

    "Covid"

  • @truthbetold4747
    @truthbetold47472 жыл бұрын

    Great professor and very interesting material…would love to hear his opinion on climate change

  • @tormentedterror

    @tormentedterror

    2 жыл бұрын

    What are your thoughts ?

  • @truthbetold4747

    @truthbetold4747

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tormentedterror I think that honestly there is climate change and there has been climate change over millions of years…the question is how much is man responsible for it, and how much financial resources do we invest and alterations to the existing infrastructure do we make to try to offset it. While there is little doubt that pollution has some effect, especially in certain high density areas such as large cities, I think to the professors point about data and having enough of it to make a case for mankind’s contributions to be significant enough, I think that we need to be very judicious and cautious in our interpretations. We need to continue following the scientific method and allow for open debate. What concerns me greatly is that so many people want to do the opposite and stop debate and that immediately tells me that these people have a preconceived vision that they want supported at all costs and/or have some sort of financial enhancement tied to the implementation of these climate policies, and are not willing to seek out the truth. If one is open to having a change in opinion based on good data then then we as a people will reach the promised land.

  • @mattropolis99

    @mattropolis99

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s as ridiculous as asking a biologist why metal fatigue caused a bridge collapse, or asking a movie star about any politics or science topics. they’re not any more qualified to answer than you.

  • @truthbetold4747

    @truthbetold4747

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattropolis99 give me a break does that mean that you shouldn’t read, study, and learn about a particular topic to try to better understand it? Doesn’t mean that I have to do it for a living. That’s what the arrogant elites want is to dumb down the population so that you listen to what they say and question nothing. Sounds like you are living in the Middle Ages when nobody would question anything or they would be labeled as heretics. It doesn’t take rocket science to look at data collection and climate models to know that there are serious questions about the accuracy of the climate change claims. All this means is that there should be continued debate as there should be in all scientific inquiry. Anyone that tells you otherwise should raise serious concerns about the accuracy of their claims.

  • @Paraselene_Tao

    @Paraselene_Tao

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll give my two cents about anthropogenic climate change. Yes, I think humans have caused a recent upward trend in world temperature and greater weather severity. Without looking it up, I believe we're adding 30 giga-tons of CO2 each year to the atmosphere. We also add a large amount of CO2 equivalents like methane and nitrous oxide too. We have lots of data to show this: ppm of CO2 has increased from roughly 250 to about 400 in the last 200 years. The rate of increase to CO2 and global average temperature is totally unprecedented. Also, this is some of the highest concentration of atmospheric CO2 the world has ever seen. I don't recall much data about the oceans, but they are changed by humanity too. Many models show how greenhouse gasses work to warm the planet (in case you needed help believing this). I hope I've quickly explained how much man is responsible for this current & extreme form of climate change. If you're looking for more info, I recommend textbooks or online lectures: sorry I don't have specific ones to recommend, but there must be a lot of material out there. "... how much financial resources do we invest and alterations to the existing infrastructure do we make to try to offset it." It's a nice question, but this has such a long answer that I want to point you to a book that I've read. Maybe you don't like Bill Gates-he's not a mythical hero for sure-but his book is a valuable way to answer your economics question. "How to Avoid Climate Disaster" by Bill Gates (I'm sure he had good help writing it) is a great book to start with. This book is free right now from audible (if you create a new account), and if you don't mind it's only about 7 hours to listen. You can speed up the audio to make it go by a little faster.

  • @joenuts8623
    @joenuts86233 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a scientist I feel very uncomfortable

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison84782 жыл бұрын

    It tends to be really hard to bring criminal charges over spreading misinformation, but in the right circumstances civil action may be a real option.

  • @MichaelReed609

    @MichaelReed609

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wtf are going on about?

  • @ronaldgarrison8478

    @ronaldgarrison8478

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MichaelReed609 Do you have something actually to discuss, or are you just trolling? Did you actually watch the video? Dr Short was saying how spreading disinformation is a criminal act. I was replying to that. Does it make sense now?

  • @EliotMcLellan
    @EliotMcLellan4 жыл бұрын

    SOLAR COULD BE THE WORST....

  • @danthemango
    @danthemango3 жыл бұрын

    36:25 "You will be called on to provide expert advice, and say whether things are real or not, explain why, and do it in an empathetic way so as not to make people feel stupid." That's where you lost me, buddy

  • @so8907

    @so8907

    2 жыл бұрын

    What don't you understand, he is saying that many of their jobs will be to consult / advice people, and its important to deliver advice that people understand and relate to.

  • @kungfreddie
    @kungfreddie2 жыл бұрын

    "We live in a free country and have freedom of speech... unless it's hate speech" Said right after complaining about ppl not understanding science. Maybe he should shut up about law until he understands it. USA don't have hate speech laws.

  • @benc5152

    @benc5152

    2 жыл бұрын

    agree and thought something similar. "hate speech" is a sneaky way to censor opposing political views. It's cleverly worded to make it sound like something it's not, just like the "patriot act". will add that "hate speech" is not the same thing as verbal harassment or disorderly conduct. besides that, thought it was a pretty good video.

  • @dvergar1

    @dvergar1

    2 жыл бұрын

    While you are technically correct, it seems clear that was not what he meant. Obviously the First Amendment is a protection from government restrictions on most speech, there are exceptions. And he goes on to say that just because someone is speaking, you don't have to listen. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

  • @kungfreddie

    @kungfreddie

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dvergar1 not what he meant? That was exactly what he meant. And I never said there wasn't any restrictions, I said there is no such thing as "hate speech" as something that would infringe on your free speech. I could say all purple ppl are lazy and should be executed! Or all who believe in the flying spaghetti monster should be stoned to death! Whatever group u chose to hate its fine! Not so in many EU countries or CA. And u are lucky to have it! U can't stop hate with laws, only by assimilation and integration. And sometimes "hate speech" can be a sign of affection. Scandinavian countries tell horrible jokes about eachother, it's a bonding thing from our shared history. If you enter hate speech into law then such things are no longer possible bcoz the law doesn't care about your intentions.. or atleast that is how hate speech laws in UK n CA have been drafted. You never give more power to the government, u only take it away from them. Unless u have wet dreams about Grey concrete tower apartment buildings that's falling apart, only one car model available and it takes10 yr to get it, standing in line 5 hrs to get basic goods.. and if u happen to piss someone off that's in the political elite u will b sent to "re-education" (by starvation and beatings), if ur lucky! That's the end game of giving more power to politicians. And it always start with something small.. something benign that u must be a bigot, racist, nazi, etc if u say no.

  • @kungfreddie

    @kungfreddie

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@-szega hate speech is a relatively well defined term in law since its a legal term in most western countries except the US. So why don't u name one thing that's hate speech in the usa that's illegal under some "hate speech" law....,? And yea ur right.. why o why would I ever use a commentsection to comment about something that bothers me? That's like insanity!!!! Like writing letters to the editor when town newspapers where a thing... totally unheard of.. if someone did it I'm sure they would b arrested for hatespeech. If you want to masturbate in a circle about how great u all are then move to tumbler, THIS IS UTUBE!