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@AAYDOT

Жыл бұрын

Wait sis LOL you can't just skip over it all like that what do you mean one of the models was trying to fight you? I think we're going to need a story tee time for that one! Lol

@shynec257

Жыл бұрын

@@AAYDOT ok cause STORYYYYYY TIMMMMMEEEE

@AAYDOT

Жыл бұрын

@@shynec257 str8 facts like not cmn for the queen. Fk naw lol

@kanyegang2810

Жыл бұрын

School teaches us to charge for our time, and craft so he is not wrong for his prices... People forget we have to pay the bills on our business, and for the business plus at home cost....... I've been getting my hair done in the salons since I was 5 when they use to charge $5-$10 per track, and $500+ for sew-ins for adults, and this was in the 80's... I've been doing hair since I was 13 Been in the shop since 18 and I can tell you it's been a journey.... Tae is worth every penny!!!

@trishonya

Жыл бұрын

Not helmet sis lol!

I saw a tweet that said “The white community has been charging $300+ for color and over $1k for extensions but when poc do it it’s a problem” and someone quoted that tweet saying “Black people need to free themselves from the ‘white people do it so why can’t we?’ mentality” That could not be more true✨

@micarenee9

Жыл бұрын

And white people are also creating a great atmosphere for their customers giving them refreshments washing their hair ect . Y’all wanna charge like the white folks but don’t provide a good experience and atmosphere like white folks

@nataliesasha8216

Жыл бұрын

We also should add in what’s included. Those salons that charge that are also providing the basics like wash and blow dry and then some extra perks that contributes to the price. You want $1k with me doing half the work at home.

@Theprettyfinegurl

Жыл бұрын

The white salon is not just "coloring hair and adding extensions" they are consulting with the client about their natural hair, giving tips for after service care, wash, dry, cut, special hair treatments if needed (dry or brittle hair) the basics of any beauty service is about caring for the clients natural hair/skin/lashes etc provide tips and give treatments accordingly, the "styling" is the easy part, to say your a stylist comes with responsibility not just being money hungry, also customer service plays a major part in ANY part of the service industry it's literally #1 idgaf how good something look/taste etc if the company customer service sucks I'm gone

@Lonerstoner21

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a mentality, it’s a legit question. And it’s so legit that it goes over peoples heads. Why is it an issue when your peers are charging their worth. Because if they’re charging that much that means what they’re using on you is not cheap at all + they care about their craft….For the amount of education because let’s be real, school cost thousands. And after school you’re still educating yourself with further classes that are also costing thousands. As a stylist you have to reinvest in your business with the salon tools, the salon in general revamping it etc.. Why is it an issue? Why does it have to be justification? It is very weird that within our black community we constantly try to shame our peers for charging what they have to charge. But on the flipside you have black women who 100% get it who will come to you, who will book the service, and they’ll tip you+ show love w no issue at all. I hear far more stories of people enjoying their hair services, or whatever type of service, from higher costing providers, then I do people who don’t enjoy it. They always say they’re happy and why they like going to that person.…

@cece5464

Жыл бұрын

@@Lonerstoner21 I even think the white stylist r crazy to! But most white stylist aren’t asking clients to come detangled,washed,and blow dried, ALSO most of them who charge crazy prices are actually licensed and in really nice shops that have extremely high booth rent. Idc what race u r, don’t expect me to do all this work and pay a lot of money as well! My childhood hair stylist even said she thinks it’s crazy the price people r paying when most stylist don’t even care about the health of the hair, she thought it was crazy seeing people charge extra for basic deep conditioning when that should b automatically done if u shampooed.

They definitely have lost their minds. Investing in myself and learning to do my own hair was the best decision I made. I remember when sew ins were only $75 in just 2015-2016. I can’t believe how much the hair prices has gone up when it comes to hairstyles in general. I feel like we’re just paying for their booth rent instead of the actual style 🙄🙄🙄

@canadiankaren2426

Жыл бұрын

Damn I’ve never paid $75 for a weave!

@Still_prettyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@canadiankaren2426 how much you used to pay?

@BlackGirlLovesAnime6

Жыл бұрын

They want to be on a celebrity stylist level. They’ve truly lost their minds

@Blackcatsaregoodluck11

Жыл бұрын

Where do you live cuz I remember sew ins being $125 since late 2000’s

@almondkissed3794

Жыл бұрын

Shit . The lady who does my hair still charges that

I do my own hair I do my own nails I do my own makeup I refuse to spend my money for someone to disappoint me anymore! I learned how to do it all so I don’t have to spend it all

@asiammkay

Жыл бұрын

Yes 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 same here because absolutely not

@Indigazure

Жыл бұрын

Girl me too!

@writerchic777

Жыл бұрын

Same. I spend my extra money on traveling and clothes!

@packnetadaija

Жыл бұрын

Exactly I have been going to the school of KZread to learn how to do my nails and hair 😂😂😂

@Mimi-to6rx

Жыл бұрын

This! I haven’t got my hair done professionally since 2014! I went and got an hairstyle done that I could have done myself and that was the end for me. I refuse to pay all this money for shit I can do myself with half the service! These new hairstylist are on some other shit! Seriously then wash, braid down or anything in that aspect is extra when that’s use to be an requirement back in the days! These women want money they don’t care about no one’s hair

"$400 for five stitch braids. Hair must be washed, dried, and blow dried before arrival. I do not provide hair so you'll need to bring your own." My jaw was on the FLOOR. I'm blessed that I know how to do my own hair because no way!

@angelsweet9611

5 ай бұрын

Girl I watch a bunch of tutorials and do my own hair! Cuz f that! I’ll only go to a salon for special occasions or to get a trim!

@faithblamon7782

5 ай бұрын

Exactly! Shout out to the people who can afford this but I most definitely am not going broke for something I can do on my own@@angelsweet9611

@kakishisfriend1126

5 ай бұрын

If your hair isn't properly blown out bone straight or detangled, your appointment is canceled!! The deposit will NOT be refunded. They all delusional 🥴

@db6881

5 ай бұрын

Could NEVER in London.

$350 for a silk press???!?!?! My hairdresser is a licensed cosmetologist and beautician. She charges $85 for a silk press and works in a salon. I don’t get why people charge so much for hair. I love being able to support her because she’s reasonably priced and even when she raised prices they only went up by like max $20 a style. I couldn’t imagine paying so much on hair when people can go to KZread university.

@moniquejohnson2465

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I taught myself how to crochet my own hair during this Pandemic.

@reyrey5259

Жыл бұрын

I paid like 65

@reyrey5259

Жыл бұрын

I used to go to the Dominicans and paid 20 for wash and sets 30 for perms😂😂

@queenslay2993

Жыл бұрын

Who's your silk press lady

@jasminejazijaz8002

Жыл бұрын

$85 is very reasonable 👍

I worked as a Manager in “white people salon” and in our hair community the customer service is still lacking or non existent. And a lot of stylist where I worked had dual licenses, and they never overbooked, took a lunch break and didn’t take phone calls while working. We had someone come in and clean once a week plus the daily cleaning we all did, we offered drinks and gifted goodie bags to loyal clients. The owner also would keep a customer appreciation party for clients, so she showed love to her clients. The prices weren’t cheap but customers didn’t mind paying because it was an experience and every stylist washed and dried and flat iron each client.

@Bri-nc8yp

Жыл бұрын

That's the difference btw white and black business and the black business owners wonder why their own black people don't support their business.

@BreaLinn

Жыл бұрын

@@Bri-nc8yp 💯💯

@crystallight328

Жыл бұрын

I would go there.

@becky15707

Жыл бұрын

And what always get me is when they do a celebrity or insta model hair ; they start seeing themselves above everyone with a nasty attitude overly priced and you don't deserve my time attitude . I'm really over it you are not trying to charge me over one hair do to solve your life problem .I'm not supporting any business because they are black if they service isn't good

@dinkyboss

Жыл бұрын

That last part. Folks don’t mind paying for quality

I was just telling my home girl this… everyone wants to start a business but suck at customer service which is vital..

@shanonstarr3852

Жыл бұрын

Bad buisness people, skilled ,but suck at business

@otismeotisme7987

Жыл бұрын

and that is the ...TEE , smile.

@LoveAndSnapple

Жыл бұрын

And that pisses me off too. Everyone thinks that if they can get the materials together and slap some things together and put it in a box then they’re a business owner. All so they can call themselves a CEO, entrepreneur, or self-made. Not to mention, everyone is out here doing the same thing, no one is doing anything unique or special or something that they’re truly passionate about. It’s not just about hair and nails either. It’s selling T-shirts, candles, body butter, lip glosses, lashes, etc. I know that people can sell whatever they want to sell and put their own special twist on it but if I see one more person tell me that they’re selling lashes and lipgloss I’m gonna lose it. No one wants to do anything special or do anything that will require some actual education and licensure. Because that would mean that someone would have to know a thing or two about chemicals, skin care, and actual business acumen. It’s because all these social media people always show them the end where they’re packing up all their finally packaged products and sending them out to the mailbox. That part of the business side is exciting and pretty, but they never show the hard part. And even the social media girlies aren’t professionals either. They’re people just like us who want quick money and resell things like bedazzled Starbucks cups and Ali express earrings. Watch ‘small business tiktok’ here on KZread and you’ll see what I mean.

I had a nail tech who worked out of her kitchen. I had no problem driving an hr to her because her work was excellent. Unfortunately I had to stop going because I would show up on time and she would still have a client in her chair and sometimes I would even arrive and end up playing with her child while she got ready for my appointment. I always looked the other way. One day I was 5 minutes late and I messaged her before hand and she cancelled my appointment and kept my deposit. Mind you I tip high on top of prices that she would keep raising every month. Never again!

@MissAprilCakes

Жыл бұрын

That is so disrespectful. What is wrong tht ppl r so wicked smh. Sorry u experienced this

@delovelyday430

Жыл бұрын

yea she is ungrateful and doesn't deserve you as a client.

@henryb6747

Жыл бұрын

@@MissAprilCakes I’m telling you! These new techs know nothing about customer retention. I found someone better though! 😁

@henryb6747

Жыл бұрын

@@delovelyday430 thanks love! and she will never see me again that’s for sure.

@keze1558

Жыл бұрын

How disrespectful of her 😤

Well whoever is paying them for that mess has lost their minds. Yall must remember that these hair stylists have to be able to buy Gucci Chanel and Prada, get 30 inch nails 30 inch lashes and 60 inch weaves, drive a G wagon or a Range Rover, live in a luxury apartment where many of them do hair out of and the rent is literally 2500 a month, get BBLs and breast implants, get their teeth done, get their lips injected, bleach their skin, go on trips 4 x a year and post their lavish lifestyle on their tic tocs and Instagrams where they rudely talk about their refusal to book appointments with no deposit and yall continue to pay them. Me personally...I could afford a stylist but unless you are actually doing my real hair and helping it grow...I don't need you. I will learn how to do my own installs and I been stop wearing quick weaves so there is just no way I would even pay someone 40 dollars for that. Yall better start keeping your money in you account.

@neeciiw7840

Жыл бұрын

Ur comment tells it all 💯

@smileyface985

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. Some are insane. And will charge a late fee but can never get in your head at your appointment time 🙄

@Still_prettyyy

Жыл бұрын

I like you I like your response 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@DrizzyJaeable

Жыл бұрын

Well go off then!!!!!

@becky15707

Жыл бұрын

This is fact

I don’t know about anywhere else but in California, licensed hairstylists are required to wash hair before providing services for sanitary reasons. This whole “ come with your hair washed”, goes against the board.

@OGseoulite

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s mandatory for all stylist everywhere? I’m not sure but as far as I’ve seen every woman says the same thing, myself included

@jilliancymone

Жыл бұрын

@@OGseoulite in texas stylist be saying we gotta come washed and blow dried 🤣 its only a very small group of stylist who will wash and blow dry

@lennaedaley8676

Жыл бұрын

Most states it is mandatory that they have to wash your hair but they want you to pre-wash it because they don't want to do the work. They just want to throw shampoo in to say they washed it

@EBEnteRGizeRBunnY

Жыл бұрын

It’s the same here in Illinois. Lowkey I believe it’s everywhere. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

@tyronesiasmall8418

Жыл бұрын

They're probably not licensed

Here in Houston they are charging $200 for a silk press and $600-$1000 for braids. We have to stop paying and show them we the customers have the last say

@EvonneLindiwe

Жыл бұрын

1000 for braids that’s insane. 🙆🏿‍♀️ for me braids are 50 dollars on the high side. If I lived there I’d just learn to do it myself.

@iloveashleysade

Жыл бұрын

I live in Houston and you can get box braids for $200-300 you just need to know who to book

@lakeabrown5061

Жыл бұрын

I agree! That's outrageous.

@xxxtrddy

Жыл бұрын

@@iloveashleysade my box braids - $140, $160, or $180

@Confettifun

Жыл бұрын

This is why i learned to do my own marley twists! 1000 is ridiculous

i am a nail tech and i am so shocked that a lot of nail techs are now charging for top coat 😭 like thats a part of the service. even cleaning up the cuticles is part of the service and people are charging an extra $15 for it and that’s absurd 😭🥺

@juicediy2495

Жыл бұрын

When I was asked if I wanted a nail tech to clean and cut my cuticles they told me it’s an extra fee and I lost my shitt. Even a nail trim 😅😅. Charging for top coat is sending meeee tho 🤣

@notaytguru8214

Жыл бұрын

And this is why I’m learning to do my own nails, no disrespect but why is a simple tip set over $100?! It was $25 2 years ago!!!!

@jadaphernelia

Жыл бұрын

@@notaytguru8214 well of course it’ll never be $25 again because of cost of good materials and labor. Personally, for me a sets $100 and up usually have french tips, charms, or other special add ins. Length is also a big factor as well. Long nails are in rn so that another cost. I just think it’s absurd to charge for things that are included in a service.

@jadaphernelia

Жыл бұрын

@@juicediy2495 like i just don’t understand why prepping the nail is considered a separate cost 😭 unless you’re doing ridiculously long nails and they use an entire bottle of topcoat then i guess but it’s just wild

@notaytguru8214

Жыл бұрын

@@jadaphernelia I don’t expect it to stay the same. But a $75 difference? I said SIMPLE set. As in no extras.... that’s ridiculous

I agree. I have had to clap back at stylists trying to charge 200-300 for $50 kitchen beautician jobs. If you aren’t licensed, educated, and in a comfortable space…absolutely not. I’m not paying top dollar to your living room and baby cry. Sorry not sorry.

@joyell821

Жыл бұрын

Girl, I picked my friends daughter up from a salon and they were smoking weed out in the open while clients were present.

@smileyface985

Жыл бұрын

I refuse to do homes 😩

@prettypuffprincess

Жыл бұрын

And eating a platter of chicken and fries while you wait under the dryer 👏🏽 I’m with you, I pay top money for everything!

@colleshaurquhart920

Жыл бұрын

you dont like the price dont pay

@Alwaysontime11

Жыл бұрын

Don’t knock the kitchen lol I’m going to pay for quality, the environment just needs to be clean, comfortable and most of all safe. Some of these salons have way too many people coming in and out that don’t even be getting their hair done

These stylists have indefinitely allowed Miss Rona to come and have them lose their entire minds! Half of these ladies aren't even LICENSED to do hair and you want to be charging $200+ for a damn ponytail with no wash and blowout? And don't get me started on these stupid non-refundable deposits!! An absolute disgrace

@alicemiriah

Жыл бұрын

I’d be afraid to charge crazy prices with no license. People may start reporting them 😬

@klassycurves1180

Жыл бұрын

I did a last minute cancellation the lady told me $50 girl $50 where by friend I’m willing to pay but $50 you pushing it

@MelissaMiller95

Жыл бұрын

@@klassycurves1180 🤯straight wickedness

@its.dayday__

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget you have to come with your hair home straight for a ponytail too😂

@otismeotisme7987

Жыл бұрын

not licensed, no wash, you are so right.

I’ve had the same hair stylists since she was in beauty school. She was the only black woman in the school and I stuck with her. A decade later she has her own salon. Just got Fulani braids for $165, i put a deposit of $50. She washed, conditioned, and blow dried my hair. She also provided the hair, all colors from blonde to 1b. I’m glad I have her.

@FromtheeyesofShaun

Жыл бұрын

She's a beautiful "cosmetologist" that understands the importance of her role (God bless her)

Few years ago when I saw Alissa Ashley pay about $1,000 for knotless braids, I knew these stylist lost it and so are the folks paying such prices.

@chanaef.8189

Жыл бұрын

Yes I remember that video too. I was shocked, but I also feel like being in L.A. influences the crazy ass price. Crazy.

I just had this conversation my mom who went to school for cosmetology and she told me customer service is taught. Unfortunately a lot of ladies are on a get rich quick scheme, they care nothing about the craft.

@brandi5200

Жыл бұрын

Facts. It’s the age of entrepreneurship but nobody hones their craft. I include these new musicians in this too

@christinecoffey9865

Жыл бұрын

And a lot of them aren’t licensed and that’s the problem.

@delovelyday430

Жыл бұрын

Your mom is correct

@claudettedoyley9056

Жыл бұрын

Miss Butler you're so correct, I used to read my mom's cosmetology book. It covers a lot of stuff. It can be a lucrative business if you have the heart for it and the love to do people's hair.

@otismeotisme7987

Жыл бұрын

God bless your MOM, we were taught with some sense.

It's also illegal for a stylist to do your hair without washing or drying your hair. It's a part of the service because you need to clean the hair before using tools on multiple client's hair.

@delovelyday430

Жыл бұрын

Exactly I worked at a salon and the owner would try to make me or have me style dirty hair. If it's not being washed and blow dry before styling that's considered dirty hair and it goes against how I was taught and what we were taught in cosmotology school needless to say I quit that shop.

@jhatana

Жыл бұрын

it’s not illegal for braiders !

@alaiyakennard5869

Жыл бұрын

It’s law in California sanitation is what it’s called, yu can’t do dirty hair!

We NEED to talk about how most of these new so called stylists CAN’T DO HAIR PERIOD…can’t cut, style, color etc.. it’s horrible… once had a sew-in and 5min after I left the shop something felt loose chile the braids were coming undone under the tracks….and another time I tried a new stylist showed her a style I wanted she told me she didn’t know how to do that…I could’t believe it mind you my old stylists (an older woman) can do that style in her sleep smh…and both of them had a license

@Mimi-to6rx

Жыл бұрын

THIS THE GOT DAMN ONE! Majority mediocre. Just know how to style and put on wigs. Can’t grow hair, make it healthy, nothing

@DarlingNikki2

Жыл бұрын

How about having everyone come out of the shop looking the same? 😆 Like no matter what style you ask for you, you end up looking just like the last five people who came out the shop lol!

@Toni_313

Жыл бұрын

@@DarlingNikki2 I’ve seen that to 😭

@Introvertsan

Жыл бұрын

I have seen some who can only install and texturize/cream hair thats about it you aren't going to get much it you dont want a lace front or insta baddie hair do

@Serenityblu23

6 ай бұрын

I went to a licensed place, and she decided the style she wanted me to have and book me a appointment without my knowledge. She would call me ever month telling me I needed to come in and was upset when I would say no.

You ate and left no crumbs 🎯 Edit: “just like a nice wiggy helmet” 😩😩😩

Also I forgot to mention when a lady charged $150 for my wash, blow dry and silk press she was 45 minutes late. But there was a $20 fee if I was late. Clown behavior.

@keshacoffee

Жыл бұрын

THIS! All the nail techs and hair stylists stay being late but if we late there’s a big hoopla talking about some fees & cancellation and “you’re not my only client I have others after you”. I remember one girl worked from home I arrived at my appt 4 min before it started and she lived in apartments I couldn’t find her apt this girl was on the phone with me told me she saw me but wouldn’t come get me. Playing w her on the phone went well over her 15 min grace period & she cancelled. When I tell you I wanted to fight her. They be playing with people money & time as well!

@prettyacct

Жыл бұрын

I would have deducted $20 from her fee.

@daishawalker217

Жыл бұрын

@@keshacoffee this happen to me lol I was too mad, I’ve arrived 20 mins before my appointment bc the girl lived on a college campus. I had to find parking which was a task, I found the building but not the dorm room, I had to ask other students to let me in the building. I couldn’t find her dorm, and the stylist knew this, but didn’t offer to meet me outside the building. Due to not finding her dorm she cancelled my appointment because it was past the grace period, but the entire time I was communicating with her over a text. I confronted her and she stated “my other clients had no problem locating the dorm or parking” 🤡

@keshacoffee

Жыл бұрын

@@daishawalker217 that’s that stuff. Smh and they wanna charge deposits and not give it back when they be the problem. yup the girls are very petty! When you find a good nail and hair tech baby STICK WITTEM. This pandemic got everybody thinking they an entrepreneur but lack common sense, common decency, and customer service.

@shanicesm6208

Жыл бұрын

$150 for a silk press!! 🤦🏾‍♀️ 😱 🥺

Bro I have LOCS and these girls are tryna charge me $120 for a retwist with no style or wash. They can kiss my arse. I’m currently in my 3rd trimester and didn’t feel like doing my hair. I was looking for a stylist to do Cuban twists over my locs, mind you that’s easier since my hair is already parted in boxes. Two stylists had the audacity to say $200!! Guess who’s currently doing their own twists before they give birth 👉🏾💁🏾‍♀️👈🏾

@starspeculation

Жыл бұрын

I'd understand if she was _starting_ the twists. But $120 for something that probably won't even take 2 hours?

@alexischavez3238

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations! Praying you have a safe delivery!

@BlackGirlLovesAnime6

Жыл бұрын

Sorry you had to end up doing them yourself. I’m sure that’s uncomfortable af.

@tonyabdeals6219

Жыл бұрын

Blessings to you and your bundle of joy!

@brandi5200

Жыл бұрын

$100 retwists sound crazy to me especially if they don’t wash your hair

I’ve been a licensed esthetician for the past 7 years and I see this happening on the skin care side as well … now when I see these stylists and therapist making up crazy rules and short changing services I instantly report they ass to state board! A LOT of these new age beauty professionals ARE NOT LICENSED and they look at this industry as a quick easy bag and a fast way to entrepreneurship but have acquired none of the skills or education to be a successful business owner! So not only do we need to stop supporting them we need to report them because this mess is unsafe/ unsanitary and it’s ruining an industry for stylist (especially black ones) who have actually done the work to be successful in this business

@LoveAndSnapple

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!! No one wants to do so much as crack open a book or even take a 90 hour class at the minimum in order to learn what it takes to succeed in the industry. Whenever I see someone start their own skin care, make up, or hair brand and is highly successful it tends to be a black woman with a degree in chemistry or some kind of pharmaceuticals. And that’s why they know what works. They know about melting points and bacteria. They know about soluble and non-soluble elements, they know about emulsifying certain products and shelf life, how certain things can turn rancid under certain conditions and what things actually work on skin, especially black skin. I am so sick and tired of seeing people just toss some things in a lipgloss tube and say “Look at me! I’m just like them!” Yeah sure, you’re the upteenth person I’ve seen put a basic gloss inside of an AliExpress plastic tube with a cute label and called it skincare. Honey, I can go to the beauty supply store and get an entire pack of lip glosses, the same we’ve been using since we were children for a cheaper price. But no, no one wants to do the actual work, research, and develop the know-how to make it in the long run.

But when licensed cosmetologists tried to check this we were told to shut up and let them get their hustle on lol 🤷🏾‍♀️ The scary part is I watch so many kitchen beauticians completely disregard the health and integrity of hair, quickest way to lose it. Results may not be immediately noticeable but the state of these scalps in a decade will be an interesting studying. And you wash clothes, you shampoo hair.

They’ve lost theirs and I’ve found mine. Been doing my own hair for years now and to be honest I’ve done my hair better than anyone else who’s played in my hair.

@AC-ur2mz

Жыл бұрын

Same sis

@taquinmcmullen6490

Жыл бұрын

Me too

I will patronize an old school beautician any day than these new IG stylists. Help me help my hair grow and not just style my hair.

@rclark1132

Жыл бұрын

These are the stylists that are broke and getting shi##ed on. People come back later down the line trying to get their hair‘fixed’ after all the trends…..it’s annoying

@jgemini3202

Жыл бұрын

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@SOULarLioness

Жыл бұрын

THAT PART!

@brishaberries0101

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, they don't care about the health of the hair, just the looks of the style or wig.

Silk presses should range from $75-$95 at MOST depending on if a trim was included or not. This is including the wash! I’m so grateful for my hairstylist. She is licensed, professional, consistent and fair.

@otismeotisme7987

Жыл бұрын

YES MAM, i do this at home and have a L, i charge the same as your hairstylist ,

@independentchic8458

Жыл бұрын

How much if a trim is included?

@Breonaleonard

Жыл бұрын

@@independentchic8458 it will all just depend on whether you got a blunt cut, layers etc. Just know that if you are seeking someone out for these services…what I mentioned above are reasonable prices😊

@Breonaleonard

Жыл бұрын

@@independentchic8458 the most I’ve been charged before INCLUDING a trim was $95

I just saved myself $400 by doing my own sew in! I’m so proud of myself 😁😁😁! I only spent $2 for the needle and thread cuz I already have the hair I need. Just had to wash and condition it. Stylists in Atlanta are part of the group who lost their minds. They’ll wanna charge late fees but show up later themselves. Charge extra if they have to wash and condition for you. Then you may spend all day in the salon because clients overlap. Then I might get charged more because she’s installing hair that I didn’t buy from her. It’s just dumb! This first time doing my own sew in took me 6-8 hours total from start to finish - wash and condition my hair, wash and condition my weave, braid my hair, then sew in and style the weave. But it felt great to do it myself and take my time with myself. I just have to be intentional about setting time aside to do it myself, but 8 hours and $2 versus 6 hours and $400 is a damn good investment of my time!

@moniqueloomis9772

Жыл бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Boycott the kitchen beautician. It’s always the girls without formal hair education that want to change beyond their worth and they’re the main ones that care ZERO about the health of the hair. Hair will be slayed, but breaking off when the style is over. My niece went to get some faux locs. She told me the woman was washing her hair and their hair came with the price (it was a very reasonable $180). I said “She HAS to be a licensed beautician” and she definitely was. She came back and was like “She told me not to style it for 7 days.” I responded “When you manipulate the hair soon after it can cause severe breakage.” She said “THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID.” I see the unlicensed ones style braids immediately to get a pic. They’re slowly but surly stopping their own bag with these poor practices, but the people who’ve actually formally studied hair shouldn’t be punished for these people’s doings.

And here I go feeling ashamed making my price list based off what the style is actually supposed to be 75$ for sew ins. $125 to make wigs the install is free and etc I be looking at other ppl pricelist and be thinking I’m shortening myself. But I’m glad this video was made my prices are definitely what they’re supposed to be I’m not gonna overcharge my girls

@moniquejohnson2465

Жыл бұрын

Kudos to you! I'm sure your Clients appreciate you too, especially since the Economy, Gas, and Food prices have gone up.

@user-eu9bi1ql4z

Жыл бұрын

Nah cause where you based??

@tyairasmith4456

Жыл бұрын

Anything over a hundred is to much, even 100 for braids is to much in my opinion

@smileyface985

Жыл бұрын

@@tyairasmith4456 Really? I paid $200 for large knotless braids and that was on the cheap end in Houston.

@chiyumba

Жыл бұрын

Queen 👑

I remember when quick weaves were 50-75 dollars.. glad I completed cosmetology years ago and started doing my own hair

I'm so glad that KZreadrs are discussing this. They have gotten out of control! After going to my hair stylist after 2 and 1/2 years, I went on KZread and learn how to do the same style myself because she has went up too much. She is now currently doing a couple of celebrities, sells courses online, and travels doing events. I'm not paying $300 for a style that used to be $60 to $100. I thought it was ridiculous to pay the $250 I was playing. But she is good and they are very professional. In Atlanta finding a professional stylist is like finding the gold at the end of the rainbow. Because of that, I dealt with the price because I can't deal with the ratchet hair stylist. Now I see that all stylists are charging that amount for what I get. I now do it myself and I get compliments everyday. I force myself to just take them 4 hours and do it. They are completely out of control, and inconsiderate. I will not be going back! If I don't have time to do it, I will throw on a wig for a couple of days until I can make the time. They can kick rocks!✌🏾✌🏾

@alannajm

Жыл бұрын

whet style do you do

@MindinMyBizBeinNosey

Жыл бұрын

@@alannajm I get the invisible, versatile crochet 20 in.

I will not pay a car payment for a hairdo ! Unlicensed Plus these stylist be having bad attitudes like they are celebrities 🙄 glad I’m natural ! I’ll flat iron and bun my hair before I deal with them

@MelissaMiller95

Жыл бұрын

I legit went natural because of these atrocities. The moment I was told I had to pay $220 for a ponytail, I was like "yeah I'm done, #teamnatural" LOL🤣😭

@zazaiowens1407

Жыл бұрын

Ricki you are absolutely right. This is a non-issue for me. I’m not pressed about my hair like that. My money goes to my savings account(s).

@bellabukuru

Жыл бұрын

@@MelissaMiller95 a pony what?!? That’s theft

@mikimousechocolate7449

Жыл бұрын

The attitudes....💯👌🏿 I've felt back from quite a few im over different wicked spirits in my head one ripped my edges completely out braiding my hair in the same pattern and to tight she had problems at home with her husband so alot of that tension was coming through her work in people's head

@hellothere8347

Жыл бұрын

Literally 😂😂😂

When I got fired from my job, I couldn’t afford to do my own nails so I bought everything I needed from Amazon and taught myself. And now U can’t tell me ish, I rock claws when I need to change my nails every 2 weeks. And it’s not hard to learn.

@chiamaka_okafor

Жыл бұрын

I swear! Doing your own nails is the best!💅

@indiashante1560

Жыл бұрын

I've been doing my own nails since 2010. I'll be damned if I get overcharged for anything. Lol

@FromtheeyesofShaun

Жыл бұрын

Could you give me some suggestions on tools I need? I've learned to sengelese twists my hair... Now I just gotta get these nails Poppin. N bye bye salons (I'm sickkkkkkkkkk of them all) 😭😂🤣🤣

I was gonna book with this girl, mind you she’s not even in a shop but her work is amazing! Long story short on her site she said that to book it requires a deposit that does NOT go towards the style! That alone pissed me off

@minachoo-ho1362

6 ай бұрын

Same happened to me. I saw this girl on tiktok and she was in Dallas, like me! Excited, I rushed to book despite the price. I'm not balling, but I really wanted the style. Just like you said, she had a deposit required but it was a holding fee that did not go to the service. Even-though I had the money, time, and anticipation it was the principle. I felt bulled before I even booked the service. Any stylist in demand enough to charge a holding fee wouldn't have any appointments open to book anyway. So glad she did! Because now I do my own faux lock and they are so cute.

It’s literally to the point where I’m just learning to do everything myself because I’m not taking 2-3 days worth of my pay to pay for 2-3 hours worth of work. To each their own

As a stylist who has her license….. I quit because the industry needs a recession. Wether it’s y’all hairlines or it’s our bookings dropping. Something needs to receed. And a lot of the girlies chafing extreme prices don’t have a license 😭 hilarious. Imagine charging crazy prices without any student loans yo your name from going to hair school.

@markeyalee

Жыл бұрын

You quit because the industry needs a recession, that doesn’t make sense why not just charge what you want.

@HaterzGoneHate

Жыл бұрын

I definitely agree, I went to cosmetology school but choose not to get my license because the industry just isn’t the same! Like washing hair is law! Now you have to come ready and dang near with your hair almost done.! 🙄

@otismeotisme7987

Жыл бұрын

its a damn shame, we went through it , to get our license , and these ....... wait til hair fall out, lawsuit coming.

@mikimousechocolate7449

Жыл бұрын

Its the hair line for me 💯

@queenbbeaute2654

Жыл бұрын

Facts most them dnt have they hair license 😭😭

They are definitely charging more for doing less. This is why I'm moving to do my own hair because NOPE. Had a "professional"/ social media popular stylist steal my hair & do low quality work & thought she was going to get away with it. Nah I'm done with them. I'm not paying outrageous prices for low quality work & thievery.

@paulinesow1124

Жыл бұрын

Gurl I started doing my hair last year and I never looked back. Styles that I used to pay $250 for, I now pay $50 to do myself💅

@valeriecatherine528

Жыл бұрын

Ooio

its the deposits for me!! when I see that you require a deposit, its starting to be a NO for me. I paid a $45 deposit last week to get 20 straightback braids ($125 total) and ended up waiting 2 hours for her to still be doing other peoples hair. I had to go through my bank to get my money back bc of course the deposits are non refundable. No communication on her end that she was running behind, but if I was late I would have been charged $15??? these stylists are so unprofessional it makes no sense, I wasnt even greeted or showed which room to go to when I arrived at the shop. I am def doing the mini strike and going only when necessary and not to people who need a deposit

@ceeholland

Жыл бұрын

Just this week I had two no shows in the first two days. Without a deposit I’d have 8 empty hours (one was a longer service) and no opportunity to fill them as I don’t double book or take walk-ins (‘cause, customer service.) The deposit doesn’t compensate that lost income at all, I’d much rather have done the work but it does minimize the likelihood people just cancel last minute or are a no-show because it’s raining/they woke up late/they stayed up late/found an earlier appointment somewhere else/etc. While a lot of rules are arbitrary and ridiculous some are created out of necessity.

@MrsDD23

Жыл бұрын

@@ceeholland meh, then make the deposit refundable. There will be times people cant make it to their appt and the excuse doesn't need to make sense to the stylist for it to be ok. That is the risk in being in the field of providing a service (possibly getting cancelations), but you cant hold people's money hostage just because you will miss out on the opportunity to make what you could have made had they showed up. I get it sucks, but from a consumer perspective it sucks having to deal with those rules that do not provide any benefit to me, but rather make the process much less enjoyable and more stressful. Imagine if Doctors offices handled bookings the way hairstylists do...

@ceeholland

Жыл бұрын

@@MrsDD23 I get that losing money sucks but that’s the risk you take by choosing exclusivity. Taking your chances with walking in and waiting for hours, or possibly not being seen the day you need services is free 🤷🏽‍♀️. FTR my deposit IS 100% refundable with advance notice. Even if it’s same day if I can fill that spot (because people will call last minute to see if anyone canceled) I’ll refund you. People work hard for their 💴 I’m not here to take it for nothing. And if you’re a regular and have an emergency I’m not penalizing you, we’ll reschedule and I just eat that particular loss. I’m here to retain clients not run 🏃🏽‍♀️ them off. I don’t have 90-11 rules, just that one. I actually work hard to combat the negative stereotypes about black businesses especially hair services. I answer my phone 7 days a week, politely and answer all questions. I provide excellent customer service before, during snd after. I have a website and booking site for convenience (NOT StyleSeat or Acuity!) but if someone doesn’t want to do it online I will gladly call you back after working on clients and do it for you. No late fees, and build 15 min into every appt to accommodate because things happen. 30 to 60 min late is rude but if I don’t have anyone after I’ll still take you.

@ceeholland

Жыл бұрын

@@MrsDD23 Also times have changed. Both my dentist and my Vet require deposits. And guess what? I don’t book unless I know for sure I’ll make it. Otherwise I go to the other vet who has you sign a walk in sheet and then wait …. or urgent care … and wait.

@MrsDD23

Жыл бұрын

@@ceeholland my dentist doesnt require a deposit, as it should be. I book when I believe I can come to an appointment but things happen, this is real life and nothing goes perfectly as planned. Non refundable deposit policies do not take that into consideration and to me that is ridiculous, hence why I will not be booking with those people anymore. But more power to those of you who subscribe to those kind of business methods. Have a good day! :)

That’s why I do my own hair via KZread. I’m never late, I don’t charge for extras, I wash, condition, treat and braid down, I detangle my 4c hair and I don’t spend 5 hours waiting for someone to finish talking or eating!

@gracedarealbarb

Жыл бұрын

for real!! at this point its essential that us black girls need to learn how to do our hair whether it is a sleek ponytail or braids

I’m a stylist and I’ll admit it. Some of these prices are ridiculous !

yes girl and the stylists DO NOT want to do your natural hair anymore either. Get a weave they don't even properly braid your hair underneath. No grease on the scalp, no wash, no nothing. I've noticed stylists are focused on doing the ig models hair for promo but the work they put up on social media doesn't even match what your getting in person as a regular client. SMH this is why I do my own hair now

It’s because everyone wants to live a certain lifestyle now and show off. So in order to do this, they raise the price so they can keep up. It’s crazy how social media influence people nowadays. I’m so happy I found a fair hairstylist in NY!

@rucianapollard7098

Жыл бұрын

You are so right!! Some of these "around the way girls" are charging tons of money for their services because they are trying to be like these "influencers". The want to post pics of themselves with a Channel bag or a Louis Vuitton bag. They want that life, but aren't willing to put in the work to get licensed.

@queenbbeaute2654

Жыл бұрын

Facts I will not contribute to there luxury lifestyle they wanna be millionaires off hair these chick need to learn to live in there means they make all this money but claim small business i cant 😆🥴

@Jalisialuxe

Жыл бұрын

@@rucianapollard7098 Lmaoo not “around the way girls” 😂😂😂

@Jalisialuxe

Жыл бұрын

@@queenbbeaute2654 exactly!!!!

I'm a hairstylist of over 20 years, and a salon owner of over 10 years. There are many factors that have contributed to the downfall of the black salon/beauty industry. It is so much deeper than just social media. For decades, black women have been spending astronomical amounts of money and time, in hair salons. Many of us can remember spending hours upon hours in the salon, just to receive a shampoo and style. This is especially true in the era of roller wraps and roller sets, where lots of time was spent under the hair dryer. Going to the hair salon was also a social hour/ outing for some clients. The black hair salon used to be a place where girlfriends gathered, mother's and daughters bonded, and many political and social issues were discussed. The black hair salon was a place where cuvil rights advocates gathered and planned, as well as politicians campaigned. The black hair salon was a "safe space" where we could talk about things that we couldn't talk about other places, and with people who could relate. Hairstylist and barbers work long hours on our feet, donate to many causes, sponsor local initiatives, and are often overworked and under paid or appreciated. I myself, had never worked in a "black" salon, until I became a salon owner. I was trained by top stylist and worked as the first and/or only black stylist in several salons. White hairstylist were charging way more, for doing way less than black stylist, as well as being tipped way more. In my salon, Happy Hair Salon and Boutique, I've tried to implement the good that I have learned from my experience in other salons, while eliminating the bad. We pride ourselves on being timely (all clients are started within 15 minutes of their appointment time), and effective. We service working, professionals whose time is valuable and we treat them as such. We work with assistants to ensure that we can properly serve our clients, while maintaining a clean work space and comfortable environment. We pay our stylist top commissions and charge reasonable booth rates for the renters. We shampoo ALL of our clients and strongly encourage those who want to skip the shampoo, to indeed be professionally shampooed. Now on to the downfall of the black salon and salon industry. Salon suites, and kitchen beauticians are a huge part of the problem. If a stylist is not held accountable by anyone, they can make their own rules, show up when they feel like it, and treat people any kind of way. There is no one to stop them, but the clients. If the clients accept this treatment, why would the stylist do better? In the salon suites situation, no one is getting rich but the landlords. who are most likely white males. They throw 4 walls around you and a door, and convince you that you are a business owner. Half of these people don't even have an LLC. or pay taxes, but psychologically they believe themselves to be business owners (which technically they are). What the landlords are doing, is releasing themselves of any responsibility, other than collecting rent and keeping the lights on. It's like owning a huge salon, but because you put 4 walls around each stylist, you don't have to ensure that proper products are being used, that stylist are there on time, that taxes are being paid, that stations and tools are clean, nor do you have to pay social security and Medicare insurance for the people who work for you. The stylist, can't afford assistants, are having to shop for all of their products, wash their own towels. market themselves, and basically shoulder all of the responsibility. That can be extremely tiring and stressful. Why would someone choose this? Well because they are "business owners ". For many black stylist/barbers, they are first generation "business owners ", and that's a big deal. The problem is, many have no business background or training, and many open these businesses straight out of Cosmetology school, never having good examples of how to run a business. This new age of not shampooing your clients, was brought about specifically by "braiders" who are not licensed to shampoo hair. Braiders have fought in courts and for legislation that would allow them to just braid hair, not shampoo (because that would require schooling). Another reason for the downfall, is the old aged crabs in a barrel situation. Many years ago, during the tine when we were enslaved people, plans and plots were put into place, to keep us divided as a people. It worked! Many of us, are competitive with one another to a fault. We have not learned proper conflict resolution, and with suites en vouge, we don't have to. Everyone can run off to their cubby holes and do as they please. Who suffers? The black consumers. Who profits? The white landlords. Aa far as pricing, I'm a firm believer in allowing supply and demand to determine prices. If you are over booked at one price, you raise your prices. Even if you loose a few clients, you still break even and work smarter not harder. In a salon setting, there should be someone charging less that those clients who don't want to pay the higher prices can go to. In my salon, it's never a problem for a client to see whichever stylist they choose to see on any given day. That's our salon culture. When the pandemic happened and salons were shut down, many stylist had rude awakenings. We found ourselves out of work, and many were without any income (especially those who don't pay taxes or have legitimate businesses). Clients were blowing up our phones and begging us to risk our lives for their vanities. Personally, I found it insulting. However, many stylist obliged and opened up shop at home, for premium rates. Supply and demand dictated the higher prices. Now that salons are back open, products are much more expensive and harder to get (supply chain issues), rents on commercial real estate is astronomical, electricity is costing us more, and we are still dealing with high numbers of cancelations due to covid. If we didn't charge higher prices, we couldn't afford to stay open (inflation). I must also add, that it is not just happening in black salons, it's happening industry wide, including white salons. Let's talk about the Asian nail salons, who doubled their prices for a full set and added gel polish to the mix for at least $15 more, and for what? Has their services gotten better? Have they ever really respected our time, or treated us equally to their white clients? Are we complaining or making videos about that? That has been going on for YEARS and we still patronize their businesses without a second thought. When's the last time they sponsored your childs little league team, or brought girl scout's cookies from your daughters? Would you even ask them to, or expect them to? The reality is big corporations are running beauty schools and graduates are finishing with over 20k in student loan debt. Cosmetology is a profession, some are more professional than others. If you don't like the treatment you're receiving, keep it moving until you find what works for you. Only the clients can turn this around. Demand better, but when you find it. show your appreciation by showing up on time and by tipping for great services.

@mariajones9102

Жыл бұрын

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

@nebulousMinx

Жыл бұрын

Damn, Everything was summarized an full of truth 🎯🎯🎯

@iamthatiam1618

5 ай бұрын

💯 Well said

Not to mention customer service is always ass … like being polite goes a long way I was blessed to have the same woman (family friend) do my braids and she was always reasonable price wise and kind💕

@kenniewilliams437

Жыл бұрын

Yesss I agree as me being a stylist I respect all my clients and they always come back and also tips me every time I love it

@cece5464

Жыл бұрын

My biggest problem r those who complain about hair type. I have went to SO MANY stylist that have complained about my hair being thick, 4c, shoulder length hair. Which really gets me when I already paid extra for my hair type

@claudettedoyley9056

Жыл бұрын

@@cece5464 you have that beautiful thick hair, it is a lot of work.

@cece5464

Жыл бұрын

@@claudettedoyley9056 which I am aware of but that’s their job. Imagine going to the doctor and the doctor complains about ur illness because it takes more of their time and effort. It’s their job to make everyone comfortable, I don’t want to hear the complaining, ESPECIALLY when I already paid extra.

@claudettedoyley9056

Жыл бұрын

@@cece5464 yes you are correct, it makes no sense complaining they know what they're dealing with.

I haven’t had my hair washed and blow dried by a professional since 2010 and I used to love it because i felt my hair was getting the full treatment. But now it’s always “wash and blow dry your own hair, come late, an additional $20” but when my hair dresser was late, she didn’t give me a discount. Now I just slap on those headband wigs and go😂

@desireeadjei9033

Жыл бұрын

Save your money girl. increase your bank account

@dianaa3336

Жыл бұрын

God bless headband wigs 😩🙏🏾

@jaygoldie

Жыл бұрын

Yass sis! My headband wig is amazing lol

@kaymyabr9474

Жыл бұрын

@@jaygoldie where do you recommend getting it?

@dianaa3336

Жыл бұрын

@@kaymyabr9474 I get mine from Julia Hair 😊

I love this conversation on hair, it definitely needs to change. I seen a post where a girl was charging $1700 for some small knot less braids. The mid back length was $900. Smh,I learned to do my hair more than 10 years ago because of a bad experience. I’m going to go back to school for cosmetology, I want to bring back focusing on the HEALTH of the hair and charge prices people can afford. To me it’s bigger than just clout and money, a lot of these stylist don’t even do little girls hair and I want them to love and appreciate their hair weave free.

Hairstylists/nail techs/lash techs- all of a sudden decided that they wanted to get rich fast with their mediocre work and ridiculous prices. They all claim that because they charge more that they're BETTER but people aren't dumb, they know that more expensive doesn't equal better results!

I think it is mostly is the new stylists. I go to an old school stylist and she is knowledgable about hair, her prices are affordable, and she has great customer service. These new girls need to understand having good customer service is what builds a loyal customer base.

@shayladavis7867

Жыл бұрын

I moved to a new town in 2019. It took me 2 years to find a stylist with prices that matched the value. I did not settle. My stylist is not cheap but value definitely matches the price. I leave the shop elated with my hair care!

@dominiquejacksonn

Жыл бұрын

exactly!!💯

@LifeWithAshaAse

Жыл бұрын

Same

I remember when a wash and set was $25. Now its $75+ ( I've seen up to $125) TO WASH MY HAIR! That is absolutely ridiculous. I glad I decided to learn how to do certain things with my hair.

@Whitashley1

Жыл бұрын

Imagine going to the salon one month then decide to get box braids. Next thing you know there’s a new policy that if your appointments are longer than 30days apart given a two week grace period you have to book a welcome back package that is priced at $200🫠🤬

@ms.valdez5633

Жыл бұрын

@@Whitashley1 is this real????

@nonolasciastare

Жыл бұрын

this high price for just washing hair is RIDICULOUS

@dioltlw3144

Жыл бұрын

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@GodiZreal

Жыл бұрын

No that's not ridiculous. The process is way longer than 25 minutes. $75 is reasonable. There's no profit to be made if a stylist is spending an hour or more on someone's head for just $25. A good bottle of shampoo and conditioner is not even $25. Then you have to think of other hair products like heat protection and edge control. You have to think of electricity and water those bills got to get paid too. And if the stylist is really good and gives you a great look and your hair is growing down your back don't you think you should pay her or him what they're worth? I'm just saying $75 or $125 is not unreasonable. Maybe $300 for a silk press is too much but $25 is Stone Age days.

Just a little side note I was taught in hair school back in the early two thousands: you have to wash the hair prior to servicing legally. It’s what determines what’s a salon. Braiding shops do not have to operate under certain guidelines or have a license simply because they do not shampoo hair/ slash use chemical. Another reason is clients aren’t always honest about what’s in their hair. To prevent a negative reaction you must peruse the hair first. For an example breakage from tension after a sew in on weak hair that needed protein treatments. Or applying a metallic dye on bleached hair ect. You’re suppose to study the integrity of the hair. Something you’ll observe after a good wash and blow dry. Hair care has gone out the window along with styling and treating natural hair. I believe you’re right on about stylists charging based upon the superstar life styles.

What MOST people fail to realize is that STYLISTS have lives too... I know me personally, I DO up charge with people who have previously missed appointments and wasted my time by no shows. Sometimes I down charge when I do hair from home, outside of the salon because it's a downgrade on services I'm able to perform but whether I use my salon or my home office salon, my service is still licensed and will always be professional. Professionalism should be your atmosphere, as well as your service. But What's happened is SOOOOO many women are impatient with having their hair done since the into of wigs and closures, but desire PERFECT styles in less time, which in turn has led to the use and overuse of lace front wigs, leading to having no edges leading to more work disguising this problem instead of fixing it. I barely install wigs, but I have been approached many times by women with already "no edges" to have wigs installed, who would rather look cute than contribute to themselves having healthy hair. Silk presses are beautiful when properly done, but I have also seen women who get one press, assess the damage then go right back to wearing wigs adding more damage to having long hair in the middle with little to, no sides at all. So aside from trying to cover all this with hair & makeup, we have laziness(of wanting something low or no maintenance), vanity(cuteness above comfort) and overpaying for wigs. This leaves us natural Stylist who are actually doing WORK to REPAIR hair as underpaid compared to those who are taking out edges worldwide doing 50 wigs+ a day. But the problem is not someone's hair preference, it's the fact that most of them are willing to pay for the wigs but not to have their natural manes maintained. It's a sad time in black community but many of our communities are so closed minded, they get mad at the facts instead of considering this and making changes to not be the stereotype. So as long as this type of mentality exists these Stylist are going to continue doing this because to them "My regulars will pay me my price" and that's whether it's reasonable or not. Because they know many black women are lazy and insecure about their hair and looks and will pay for a miracle... I love being a professional Stylist and having consistent clientele so I barely have to deal with this kind of trauma.. And that's just my 2 cents🤷🏽‍♀️

@lovemefareal3285

Жыл бұрын

@Deva clearly you misunderstood or didn't fully read my comment🤦🏽‍♀️ Another problem the black community has with not getting understanding before making response. If you read correctly, I do NOT support this overcharging, however adding necessary fees are different. But you would also see the facts, when I stated the people that DO PAY and support these attitudes for little or no work ARE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PROBLEM. I've seen women pay $350 to get wigs installed in a hotel room, and the Stylist was unlicensed & overbooked🤦🏽‍♀️ It's the culture that supports this type of behavior that is encouraging to this type of foolishness.. I wouldn't spend $300 on anything besides my rent or my car!!!

This is exactly why I go to my old school African lady around the corner. These instagram stylists don't even have licenses. An Instagram stylist wanted to make me pay $400 for SHOULDER LENGTH knotless braids AND i had to wash and blow dry my own hair. Yeah, I had to take my ass to corner.

@reyrey5259

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOUUU

@Hereforentertainment2

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@iadesigns

Жыл бұрын

I paid $180 for waist length knotless braids in NYC.

@otismeotisme7987

Жыл бұрын

They would not know how to handle a real marcel oven and a real hot comb, and flat iron , not this plug up mess.

@crystalcastillo7575

Жыл бұрын

@@otismeotisme7987 exactly that’s why the OG aunties is where it’s at 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

Shoutout to all the kitchen beauticians. Y'all have me styling when I go back to school.

I understand peoples frustration bc a lot of stylist are out of pocket w the not shampooing and stuff but inflation is real. Most people in the industry aren't doing anything different than the grocery stores, clothing stores, housing, restaurants, construction, etc. Employees expect their jobs to give them raises accordingly...even if it's just bc they been there a year... but people act like a hairdresser is supposed to stay in their lane and do $60 silk press for 40 years. As a barber in the game for nearly 18 years I feel the price of clippers, trimmers, shears, hair product, booth rent, etc going up drastically. I raise my prices every couple of years "just bc". We gotta eat too. Yes there are a lot of people stunting for social media and they are usually not licensed. But to expect a professional to spend an hour extra washing and blow drying some thick long ass natural hair and not charge more than the person who came in ready to go is crazy. Instead of looking at is a an extra charge for the wash it should be looked at as a discount for those who come in w it done. I just think it's crazy that folks expect people in the beauty industry to keep the same prices from 5, 10, 30 years ago but they feel they deserve to be making more from their employers. I think it comes down to the fact that a lot of people don't respect our craft bc it is a natural God given talent that we have full control over. It started off as something you could get done in your kitchen or on your porch but now (professionals) have paid thousands of dollars to go to school and get licensed for it and regularly pay for continued education as trends change. It's not cheap. These kitchen braiders are out they God damn mind lol but professionals deserve the price they ask. If it's a problem yes, youtube university is what you should be attending. Yall say if everyone stop going and paying they'll drop the price and we all know that's a joke. Stylist, braiders, and barbers will always be on high demand especially in the black community. Treat us right and we treat you better.

I agree. I finally got the nerve to cut my hair into a very low taper… she charged me $15 ( I gave her a $20 tip) because she didn’t wash or style my hair. I came back the following 2 weeks to get cleaned up… Well, she said I forget how much I charged you but my prices have went up.. I said ok no problem… she told me this after she cut my hair… still no wash & style… I thought she went up $20 for what she done.. she charged me $35 ($20 tip ) in total $55 for WHAT?! When I saw that on my bank statement I was done… she didn’t give me a design or anything… so I started cutting my own hair….. I found a barber that charge $50 but he does designs of anything you want.. so I get it…but burn me once that’s the last time you get my money…

Me finding out "stylists" are charging $700 for wig install. Let thunder ⛈ fire my nyash the day I give person that kind of money for hair do.

@adabekeethefirst8705

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

This is why I do my own hair. Since high school and now in college.

This stylist I follow on Instagram had a problem with multiple ppl reporting her to the state bored and I commented that “this is why everyone should get their license so ppl can’t do this to u just because they don’t like u” and she snapped at me nd I meant no harm i don’t remember exactly what she said but it was like “oh y’all act like having a license really mean something “ ummmm it does

@moniqueloomis9772

Жыл бұрын

Wow! You were just trying to be supportive and looking out for her best interest and that's how she replied?! 😕 That's sad.

@LoveAndSnapple

Жыл бұрын

That’s the problem with the world these days. And this DIY culture where everyone thinks they can get by without outside help, licensure, and certification and think anything that you can do on your own should be done on your own. The thing that you do on your own you have to have as much passion, drive, and discipline as if you DID go to school for it. In that regard having a license won’t mean anything if your product and skill is just as good as someone with the proper documentation but you just can’t call yourself a professional with subpar skills. I feel like these are the same people who laughed at the people who went to college and are having a hard time trying to find a good paying job and think that they are better off because they never went to college and saved themselves money. Now some people did hone a craft and make a living for themselves but a lot of people just ended up not doing anything and think that they can become a professional with no kind of sacrifice to be on the same level as people who went to school and tried their hand at something. I feel like that last laugh ran out a long time ago and now they’re just making themselves look stupid.

@pumpkinvici1858

Жыл бұрын

@@LoveAndSnappleyour right and I went to hair school and did nothing with it because it’s not much passion in it for me anymore and you learn so much you don’t think about when you’re self taught better technique for basic styles how to work off math and science not sight but I feel like the ones who don’t have the passion to eventually get a license because you can still work while getting certified are just the money hungry ones cause who wouldn’t wanna get better at something they claim to be their life’s passion

Nail salons have definitely lost their mind when it comes to the prices too. They be switching the prices of stuff that I've had done before atp I need to learn how to do them myself.

Solution: The same way these so-called "stylist" had to practice, practice, practice in order to "Perfect" their methods, you too can do the same. With all of these tutorials & videos online TEACHING YOU WHAT TO DO, you ca start to do your own shyt. Over half of these "started doing hair in the bathroom upgraded to the kitchen & ain't NEVER worked in a shop" ass "stylist" ain't even went to school for it🥱. So therefore they ain't no better than anyone else. I have about 15 stylist in my whole family (including my mom who DOES have a license) so I've ALWAYS known how to do hair. As a matter of fact, the only time I would go to one of my family members shop, would be to get a hair cut or shaved off in the back or some. Other than that, I've MASTERED doing my own hair including coloring, weaves and even Jerry curls🤦🏽‍♀️. Point I'm making is just do your own shyt. Because can't nobody take better care of you and your hair than yourself anyway 🤷🏽‍♀️

@notaytguru8214

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I only go to the salon for a trim quarterly. The natural hairstylists are CRAZY too! The charge everything a la carte too

@ladytye826

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@gladiatorinsweats

Жыл бұрын

My only pushback, though, is that people shouldn't *have* to master a whole new skill. not everyone can or is able to, whether due to physical limitations or others. I'm all for advocating DIYing but I think we can also say that it shouldn't have had to come to this.

@drekafine8831

Жыл бұрын

@@gladiatorinsweats You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. And I wish we didn't HAVE to resort to basically "learning a new trade" just because these people are pretty much being greedy & lazy. Because like you said, everyone isn't gonna be able to just do it on their own for more reasons than one. And it's actually utterly ridiculous that some of us should even HAVE to start "DIY" ing our own hair because of this. But for those that are able & willing to do it, I say go for it.

I have locs and I go to my loctian once a month. She washes, deep conditions, gives me a hot oil treatment and retwist/latches my hair. All of this for only $100. Before my locs, I braided and crocheted my own hair. I would go to African hair braiding shops where I would have to wash my hair before going, but I would leave in less than 5 hours with box braids or faux locs for $160. I would NEVER pay more than $175 before a tip. 💁🏾‍♀️

This is why I do my own hair. Pregnant and all. It took me 3 days to do some marley twist 😅 but i got the job done. The last time I paid $300 was for a lace wig bac in 2013.

@muffymariah2889

Жыл бұрын

That’s my go to. I sit my ass down and watch Netflix while i take my time

YOU SAID A MOUTHFUL CHOMA😳 I'M SO HAPPY I DO THE WEAVE THING FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS, I HAVE ALL MY HAIRSTYLIST FROM WHEN I WAS 13 STILL TO THIS DAY AND SHE IS A BEAST, WHEN MY 18 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER STARTED TELLING ME ABOUT THE INSTA STYLIST AND THEIR RULES I BURST INTO LAUGHTER AND TOLD HER I WISH WOULD TRY WITH MYONEY OR HERS🙄🤨 I'M SO HAPPY SHE DOESN'T FALL FOR THE MESS🙌🙌🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️😜😜 KEEP LETTING THEM HAVE IT LITTLE SIS💙💙💙💙 I LOVE YOU FOR IT ALL🙌💞💞💞💞🙏

They have lost their damn minds my darling Chioma. I don’t entertain lazy entitled stylists. It’s not about hair care and the care of the client anymore. Most don’t have a business degree and lack customer service skills. Pretty soon the law is going to have to regulate their service prices if the madness continues. A lot of them are trying to live like a celebrity on their clients dime. Most don’t have liability insurance or an attorney to draft terms of services agreement or defend against litigation. Thank you for this commentary much appreciated. P.S. We are in a recession that is going to be worst than the last so they need to humble themselves. Layoffs are happening and cost of food, housing and gas are high. Losing their clients could become a real possibility.

It’s the lash techs too!!!

@BeautifulGurl27

Жыл бұрын

Very true

@brandi5200

Жыл бұрын

Cuz the prices I be hearing for lashes make me neeeeever want to get them

@BeautifulGurl27

Жыл бұрын

@@brandi5200 yeah I fell back from that they charging like $180-$200 nah I’m good I can do that myself with patience 😂💯

@nora.3598

Жыл бұрын

FR

@user-mo4tu8gr8g

Жыл бұрын

@@BeautifulGurl27 $180 - $200 to glue some dam lashes 💀💀??

I live in Chicago & the girl who always does my makeup here charges $80 for full glam & does an amazing job! Last year I spent my bday in ATL & ended up booking an appt with a MUA there. The full glam + travel fee + tip was $150. My makeup was not good, didn’t match my eye shape, and she showed up late😩😩

@maureen8524

Жыл бұрын

That was pretty cheap

It just amazes me what hair styling has become. Back in the days, no one used gel and mousses for braids. They are doing it now and I believe it is to mask their poor braiding skills. Anyway !

@gladiatorinsweats

Жыл бұрын

I noticed this too!!

@shineegirlfan

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree

@iamkatdali1961

Жыл бұрын

Definitely agree my African braider got that GRIP she don’t put that mouse or nothing on my boxbraids and they last months I think girls can’t grip that well and are trying to cover that

@chunbee9749

Жыл бұрын

OOO YES GIRL YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD !

@4knewt505

5 ай бұрын

I've been braiding for 28 years and when I saw the mousse and gel in videos I was confused!. I never! On a side note, I use it now because my daughter is a competitive swimmer and it keeps down the frizz but my grip game has never lost.

5:06 Yall see that "hair wash" for $150!!!!!? The nerveeeeee. I kid you not I got braids that lasted for 2 months for like $140. What these stylist smoking?

@dianaprince9311

Жыл бұрын

You can do it at home for free.

@iamkatdali1961

Жыл бұрын

Legit trippin and 300? For a relaxer? Literally how , silk press 350? Ridiculous

Girl! You hit the nail on the head. My price is my price is bullshit. Charging your worth means charging a price that is consistent with your quality and the value you provide. What kind of value are you providing that suffices a $300 quick weave?!? And wash and braid down nor hair is included? Folks don’t know there’s a method to creating your prices: you factor in the time you spend, the products you use, the level of expertise, and your market location. Putting on a stocking cap, gluing hair on a cap, and styling the hair takes about an hour and 15 minutes at the most. That service does not match a $300 value. If you live in a major city know that it’s 100’s of people who do the same thing you do! Let’s not get into these novel long rules. I get anxious trying to book an appointment. Also-these bogus ass deposits and poor customer service are ridiculous. You charge a client for being late or you charge and cancel their appointment after a certain amount of time but if you’re (the stylist) late you don’t adjust the service for wasting the client’s time?!?! It’s unethical.

Honestly, I’m natural and thinking about just cutting my hair all off really short and wear it in a cute short style 🤷🏽‍♀️ even not getting my nails done anymore I do my own lashes so I’m good there, because we going into hard times and we really need to be saving and prepping it’s about to get real out here people…

Listen I’m a licensed hairstylist and I completely agree, that’s why my goal is to teach how to do your own hair on my channel. It’s so sad what’s happening in the industry, I love this industry so much and growing up with a hairstylist mom I’m used to full service salons and that’s exactly how I run my business. They are truly just trying to keep up with a lifestyle. A lot of them aren’t even licensed and the ones who are are just trying to keep up with the times and not don’t actually care about their client.

I tried to do my own braids to save money. I struggled for 6 hours and only made 8 braids. I quit and decided to just call the lady who does my mom's hair. Got 30 jumbo box braids for $65 (I gave her $80 because she had a hard time gripping the hair i bought, and I think she undercharges herself). She does hair at her house, and has the blue liquid to disinfect combs and stuff, so I feel kind of safe with that at least. I wash and condition my hair the night before the appointment, not because she asks, but i just want to save time so she doesn't have to be doing my hair for 12 hours, if i can help it.

@Indigazure

Жыл бұрын

Installing braids takes a lot of practice and trial and error. I spend at least 8 hours installing them but for me it's very cathartic and It gives me control of what I want my hair to look like. I get compliments all the time on my hair. Keep at it, it's definitely worth the time and money saved.

They be over charging for everything and can’t do hair right !! When going to Book an appointment the tone they is straight unprofessional under booking confirmation .. I’m not paying $250 for knotless braids that don’t last .

I learned how to do my own hair since I was 12. Getting your hair done is a treat. 500 or 700 for braids etc! No thank you.

I am a licensed hairstylist who works on diverse clients. I am the only black Extensionist in the suites I work in. I charge what my counterparts (who are white stylist) charge. White women clients pay it and it takes less time. My black clients pay the same and it takes considerably longer…. It’s a Tough Conversation.

Girl I thought I was the only person who get turned off when hair stylist write smart comments on their story! That’s a big hell naw. Very unprofessional and it’s too many of em if you are seeing them too!

I remember going to a Natural Hairdresser back in 2017 where I live and I suffer from slight alopecia, in which she also specialized in, so that’s another reason I went to her. Now, I understand her consult charge ($15) because dealing with alopecia is difficult, although mine wasn’t nearly as bad as most I’ve seen. BUT, what I wanted her to do was wash, deep condition, trim my ends, and braid my hair straight back because I was going to wear a wig for vacation. She was going to charge me $200 just for that!! I gave her a look like, what??? 👀 Then she said that she has YT clients that come in and get the SAME service, including her greasing their scalp with her home made hair grease (that they pay extra for). I politely declined and did my own hair for my trip. I’ve decided to keep doing my hair at home since then, except for a few times where I had braids.

@classygoetty1008

Жыл бұрын

Honestly that’s a good price. Especially since it’s braids it will last you

@BreaLinn

Жыл бұрын

@@classygoetty1008 Not for 5-6 big French braids that was getting covered by a wig.

@delovelyday430

Жыл бұрын

@@BreaLinn exactly

@xbabybriox

Жыл бұрын

@@classygoetty1008 How is that a good price?? You can get a full head of box braids which takes several HOURS and labor to complete for less than $200 and all she's doing is is washing then doing 4-6 quick braids to place under a wig. Not even stylish cornrows you could wear by their self. It wouldn't take you even 2 hours to do what she was asking so $200 is INSANE.

I wouldn’t say all hairstylist. I’m a Hairstylist in Orlando Fl & I have actually had to include a “prep” service to my books because I’ve had lots of ladies need a wash, treatment, blow dry, trim AND braid down for some of these stylists here. I’m licensed & honestly the state board says that you can not even touch a clients hair for styling without properly analyzing the scalp and cleaning the scalp & hair. It’s a lot of the “popular stylist” the ones with all the followers & views. The ones who haven’t taken ANY classes for continuing education to even charge those prices. You charge for worth when you’ve paid for schooling, for continuing classes & extra knowledge not because you went to KZread UNIVERSITY.

@Mayc28

Жыл бұрын

What's your IG?

Two words: KZread university. With some of these braids prices I could literally fly to Africa and get my hair done labor and hair included. Learning to do your own hair is a worthwhile investment. Keep your money in your bag ladies. You earned it.✌️

I mean price of living is ridiculous. If people don’t wanna pay those prices, just do it yourself. I don’t wear weave anymore like that because the prices on the west coast is like $300 and up. I don’t like dealing with my natural hair. I’m more of a wake up and not deal with my hair kind of girl. I usually wear a hand band wig or box braids 🤷🏾‍♀️

Its actually so sad that going to get your hair done is now considered a luxury.

Well this is why a lot of us black women are learning how to do their own hair....there's nothing wrong with charging for great services but in reality some of us just can't afford 2&3 hundred dollars in hair do"s....in all it's just sad

I was on the sew in wave before the Rona. We had a weave bar and they charged 50 dollars for basic sew in with leave out and 2 packs of your own hair. You did have to come washed and you had a fee of 20 dollars if you wanted 3 bundles sewed in. I usually walked out paying about 85-90 dollars including tip depending on if they did what I asked or just what they felt like doing. I was the girl with 400 dollar hair so I was not trying to spend no whole bunch of money for the install! And my installs lasted 2-3 months and I could reuse my bundles several times. This new stuff is crazy. I saw a post where even the braiders are charging a “clean part” fee just to give good box braids🥴I now go to the Dominicans every month for a blow out for 65 dollars. And they wash, blow dry and deep condition my hair. It’s very healthy and longer than it’s ever been

they don’t be licensed cosmetologist that’s the funny part

I take my cosmetology test in 2 weeks after that i will have my license 🥳❤️ But it’s important for NON licensed hairstylist as in never went to cosmetology school, need to know you go to school for a reason because you need to learn SANITATION, DISEASES, PROCEDURES. They probably not cleaning their supplies, not checking peoples scalps to see if they should even continue the service on a person because black people do have scalp diseases & can have lice (see it happen in school). Because anything can happen and you are liable to be sued without a license and they will make it so you can never get it! Thats why always go to a LICENSED professional. As a future licensed stylist even i think the prices are crazy!! People doing hair and dont even have the passion for it. As we learned in school its about providing a relaxing pampering experience for the client because getting your hair done is a treat and a break from work, being a mom etc. not slappin styles in womens head like they in a fast food drive thru. Everyone just want fast money its not how it works!

I’m here to speak for the stylist like my self that have ALWAYS worked sooo hard and has ALWAYS offered full service!!! I’m also a cosmetology instructor that works very hard to build more quality stylist. Unfortunately, our industry has been filled with some ppl who lack structure and education. 💔I just hate that the love and need for us has turned into hate because of social media etc 🥺

I am definitely and old school stylist in a new era. I am licensed cosmetologist in my state an I have been told my prices are to low by other stylists. I went to their page and their prices was double the price. I was floored because she was not licensed.

@markeyalee

Жыл бұрын

I deal with the same thing, l tell people I don’t feel the need to price gouge people. The people who can afford my lower pricing appreciate it and the ones who feel like they should be high too better 🤷🏾‍♀️

Ive been waiting on a vid about these hairstylists😮‍💨😮‍💨

A lot of women don’t realize that these stylists don’t wash hair because they aren’t licensed, and they really don’t know how to properly do hair.

Love the way you wrapped it up at the end. You are so right. Run a business that is ethical and reasonable.

I haven’t been to a hairstylist in over 15 years. I do my own hair and any hairstyle I cannot achieve I enjoy looking at it on someone else and call if a day. People make me tired!

Those prices are outrageous! They want to ďo less for more. It's true It's all about what the market can handle. If consumers are willing to pay, they will charge. If consumer's are not willing to pay, hairstylists will be forced to bring down those prices to bring in customers.

I remember when I used to get a silk press for a hood $70 and now it’s $90+ and I don’t even think the technique or longevity has really gotten all that better for most of them.

Chioma you hit the nail on the head with this video!!! 👏🏽

$300 for a quickweave should be illegal idc

Exactly 💯 Periodt !!! Rip-off Hairstylists & Weave,Braiders charging outrageous prices everywhere!!! They don't care,if we can't pay our bills or experience financial hardships,just to get your hair done right! & A lot of time,they install only,but Don't wash first,want you to do it before arriving prior to your salon appointment. They don't cut & style hair after install always,unless it's included in price otherwise;they charge extra !!! Enough already,we either let our hair go to avoid going to the salon,then have to pay these crazy prices to get our hair looking presentable! So annoying 🙄!!! Glad you're discussing this problem here on your forum, bravo 👏👏#QueenChioma!

@angelaburress8586

Жыл бұрын

Either you can pay or not🙄🙄🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️💁🏽‍♀️💁🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️!!!! Have a hair fund if you know you need to get your hair done🤷🏽‍♀️!!! Look see ins and getting your hair braided has always cost $200 & ⬆️ and you just didn’t know that you were getting changed $30 for your hair to be washed but you were the whole time 🤔🤔😄😄😂😂😂🤣🤣🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️!!!! Folks be wanting the most for nothing all the time!!!!

Well said Chioma! I’m tired of these suite stylist. Majority aren’t even licensed or professionally trained. I finally found an amazing shop within 30 minutes of my home with seasoned stylist and a clean beautiful salon with great service. I’m so grateful!

Finally I been building my beauty parlor around this topic to do everything we’re supposed to at a fair an reasonable price