Lesson #1: There is no such thing as a cheap airplane.

@garymccann2960

Жыл бұрын

Not really, owned a swift and converted to a super swift i spent about the same as friends did for their bass boats. But I did the annuals, repairs etc and has certified mechanic sign me off.

@codyzumr4040

Жыл бұрын

Lesson #2: Cheapest part about getting a plane is buying it

@Perich29

Жыл бұрын

You can buy a Piper Tomahawk for the same price of a brand new Toyota Camry.

@donadams8345

Жыл бұрын

@@Perich29 You might be able to buy it for that but you can't fly it for the same price of maintenance as a Camry. If a Camry breaks down on the road you can coast over to the side and call for a tow, not so with an aircraft. I have researched the cost of ownership in the past and concluded that for my income it wasn't feasible. If you have a very high income, go for it.

@Spinattitude

Жыл бұрын

Video should say "cheaper" airplanes. There is no "cheap" airplane outside of a museum ticket.

Almost 30 years ago I bought a Cessna 172 XPII, with 210hp and six cylinders. Great climber, easy to fly. Paid under $60k. Comparable A/C on the used market today are priced above $150K.

You own a "cheap" a/c for the pure pleasure of going whenever you want. I have owned a 1957 Piper Tti-Pacer for almost 50 years. I'm never happier than when I am just cruising around the neighborhood. It cost me $7500.

I bought a piper cherokee 235 in 1973 for $24,000 and I would highly recommend it. This PA-28-235 was full IFR with King radios and xponder as well as other add on instruments. Autopilot was updated to three position and connected to the Nav Com system with the switch gear to fly to the next place and switch to the next VOR. The ADF was old but I enjoyed listening to radio stations while flying. This air rat has a great load ability and many time I would fly by myself and had plenty of power, fuels with tip tanks gave me seven hours of flying time. Usually my bladder breaks came long before I needed fuel. I added a high performance kit including new wheel pants and panels giving me about 15 knots more speed. Great airplane and very powerful even in the mountains. Safe and cheap to fly, with lycoming engine . Oil changes and filter every 25 hours flying time . Always hangared.

@johnypitman2368

5 ай бұрын

In 1973 24k was quite a lot of money enough to purchase a modern home. Now in the 50 years since then you have spent quite a lot more than that on maintenance fuel and 50 years hanger fees. Now take that 24k and but blue chip stocks and add the expenses you would incur in further stocks and you would have a fortune. Any sane person i know that has a small airplane will tell you if you honestly track the expenses you would quit flying. People who fly know that flying is very expensive but it is worth it

@jayesh5131

5 ай бұрын

​@@johnypitman2368 He is a millionaire maybe!

I owned a Piper PA-28R - 200 Hp Arrow II, for 30 years and 4.200 hrs. Love it all those years. Heavy lifter, nice speed, low maintenance, nice interior space and soooooo good in everything !! I miss it a lot. Buy it at 29 years old and sold it at 60 yo. Super family plane and a nice big cargo door. . . Sorry it is not in your video. Strongly recommend it !!

Bought a Luscombe from my instructor. Squirly to fly. Instructor said if you can fly a Luscombe, you can fly anything. Boy, was he right.

What you didn't mention was an aircraft ownership study that the AOPA recently did. In said study, they claimed that if one wasn't flying at least 75? hours a year, one should look into the other options. Renter, partial ownership, club, etc. I am a FBO rental pilot myself. I was in a club years ago, and found it too clique for me. I thought about a partnership, but I have seen far too many go south. And since my work schedule is crazy at times, and my low hours a year, it's best for me to stay an FBO rental.

@garymccann2960

Жыл бұрын

If I have a airplane waiting for me I will fly more. Sometimes just to watch a sunset at 10,000 feet. FBO rental is a hassel and just not the se as your personal airplane. My sunglasses is wsiting for me hanging on the throttle.

@gulfstream7235

Жыл бұрын

Although I hated my previous boss he did come out with some pearls of wisdom, one of which went as so..." If it fucks, flies or floats you're better off renting ".

@TheWilliamHoganExperience

Жыл бұрын

@@gulfstream7235 I'd take that advice 1 step further and say "if it fucks, flies of floats, you're better of simulating" 😅 Renting ANY of that shit is EXPENSIVE. Unless you do so in the third world, which comes with it's own set of risks. The most dangerous to your life, limb, property and sanity of course are things that fuck. Things that fuck can be simulated for free these days what with the internet and cheap Chineese Amazon hand lotion and all. Same goes for flying. Just wash your hands after you simulate fucking. Greasy mice and keyboards make flight simulators difficult. Guess how I know. As far as floating, well, boats are very expensive toys, but they are very cheap housing too. As long as you don't rent or purchase fucky-things with the proceeds after you stop dirt dwelling, living on a boat just might pay for a real thing that flies. Ironically, owning things that float and fly tends to attract real things that fuck. Crazy real things like nurses and strippers. Nurses and strippers will sink your thing that floats and crash your thing that flies if you allow them anywhere near them. So I stay away from nurses and strippers now.

@davidstjames_

Жыл бұрын

@@TheWilliamHoganExperience Well said. You have quite a poetic way with the English language Sir!

@TheWilliamHoganExperience

Жыл бұрын

@@davidstjames_ ;-)

I got my IFR training from an old guy who retired from a career at the Rand Corporation (Santa Monica), a think tank. He told me he would never teach in a Tomahawk again after years earlier doing primary flight training in one and showing his student how to spin recover. Spin one way, recover, great. Spin the other way, recovery technique, hmmm... Plane won't come out of the spin. Do it again. Then again. This is not good. Finally he had the inspiration to move both seats full forward and to both lean forward as far as possible. Yes! Plane recovers. But the instructor was shaken, and never taught in a Tomahawk again. As an aside, he said to me, "Go rent one and practice stalls, then do stalls while looking behind. You'll see the T-tail shaking significantly back and forth. Not comforting." My instructor has since passed on, but he was an excellent and cautious pilot, and I think he gave me lots of wonderful advice.

@douglasrodrigues8361

Жыл бұрын

A similar situation here. About 50 years ago I was having fun in a T-34: loops, rolls, and a spin. It didn't seem like it wanted to come out of the spin. It went flat and was spinning like a top. It took about 4 turns with spin recovery control input until the nose so slowly started pitching down. Scared the hell out of me. When that placard states: Nothing allowed in baggage compartment for aerobatic flight, you better believe it ! Another time I did a spin in a Switzer 2-32 sailplane. That was a slow recovery too but not as slow as in that T-34.

@paulmoore2833

14 күн бұрын

@@douglasrodrigues8361 4:40

I am in a syndicate with 14 ..sounds a lot but most don't fly very often and the costs divided by 14 makes aircraft ownership fairly affordable without the financial stress.

I’m based out of Austin, Texas where hangars are $600+ if you are lucky enough to get one. The cost of the airplane might be ok, but the hangar makes it prohibitively expensive, so a club was a great solution for me.

As a pilot myself…. 80% of these prices are wrong. A Beechcraft bonanza… yea you can get one for 100k…. With no paint, wings detached and landing gear shot and no aviaonics. A bonanza nowadays cost well over $300,000

@slploudmouth

Жыл бұрын

Yep sadly argh, damn good plane but the prices are bonkers even for ones that are 70-80 models.

The real question isn’t : can you afford to buy it? The real question is: can you afford to hangar, insure, maintain and fuel it?!?

Have over 40 years flying experience and flying is not cheap by anybody's standards. When I retired had to sell my Comanche. Just couldn't keep up with the rising costs.

@fjohnson9749

6 ай бұрын

Yep sold our ‘65 Comanche 260 this year. Getting too old to work on it and dont have the money to use it enough to warrant the cost. Was a fantastic bird though and low maintenance. Retiring as well.

$60,000 to $80,000 dollars are still very expensive for Cub type of planes . I flew feel times the AA-5 Grumman Cheetah and I was very satisfied; it’s a fast plane . My always favorites are the low wing Piper family, from Warriors to Arrows !

If it's a ''cheap airplane' there is something wrong with it (Although must define cheap). Fuel, set aside for xx number of dollars per hour for Overhaul. Hangar, Insurance, Annual's, AD's... routine replacement parts of an older airplane. I've had a J3 for 10+ years. Easily have spent more than I paid for it just to keep up with all of above.

This Video has a still photo of a Rockwell 112A, and you don't even talk about it !!!. Sick because it is without doubt Probably the best-looking plane ever made, with super seating room, two DOORS and respectable performance if you have the three-blade prop. very strong well made plane, built by the largest commercial plane builder to even make a small private plane, Rockwell international.

@androtekman6131

Жыл бұрын

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After flying the DA 20 for a couple years as an instructor I will say this. It is not the most comfortable plane to fly due to its fixed carbon bucket seat. It is very underpowered and little to no payload available. However it is “cheap” enough to have as a weekend toy.

@kokurothegreat70

Жыл бұрын

after flying the da-20 for all of my instrument training and commercial time building, they threw me in a cherokee and it felt like a gift from God.

Flying and airplane ownership is as cheap now as it was over 40 years ago when I started. It took all of my money then and still does, but it is well worth it!

You need to shop elsewhere beside the "Controller". Your noted prices are mostly super high. I look daily on Barnstormers and other advertisers, your prices are nuts!

On average. A cheap airplane costs 350-500$ an hr to operate once you account for fuel, atc fees and airport fees and wear and tear. Also. The v tail bonanza is a fantastic looking airplane but its also the plane that killed Buddy Holly the day the music died.

The Cessna 175 is one of my dream planes, I want to get one after I get my lisence

@shawnat19

Жыл бұрын

It’s a great airplane

Early Ercoupe were fabric wings until Forney bought the company and went with aluminum wing covering. (F-1). Also there were rudders on all Ercoupe, just a lack of control pedals on the earlier versions. Per Wiki - " A two-control system linked the rudder and aileron systems, which controlled yaw and roll, with the steerable nose wheel. A completely new category of pilot's license was created by the CAA for Ercoupe pilots who had never used a rudder pedal."

Define affordable. Most people struggle to afford flight training and enough money to rent/fly often enough to stay proficient. Taildraggers: consider cost of insurance and training

@Austin.D

Жыл бұрын

Ikr my dad used to be a GA pilot before I was born as he took my mom up on dates but unfortunately he hasn't flown since it's just so expensive. flying is a rich man's hobby unless you're trying to make a career out of it like my cousin is

@boostedbadboyzx12r31

Жыл бұрын

They did, what's affordable to me, probably isn't to you. There is a good chance I spend my money wiser than you as well if you are complaining about affordable in a expensive passtime. If you're not making your money make money for you, then this will likely always be a issue you will have. A aircraft costing as much as a vehicle, isn't unobtainable to most, to be honest. But if money is the problem, look into renting and leasing in airclubs, it's generally the easiest and cheapest way in.

This video exceeded my budget about 3 minutes in...😏

Ultralights are great if you live in a relatively low wind area and you like watching the scenery, and they really are about as cheap as you can get into powered flight. Got to fool around with one at my in-law's ranch in southern AZ, definitely what those critters are made for. Plus realistically if you can drive a car with a stick or ride a motorcycle, ie you are capable of operating a vehicle that requires you to do more than 1 thing at a time, you can probably fly an ultralight. Should also mention in the video that LSA/Sport Pilot requirements make those types a little more economical from personal/logistical perspectives unless you want to carry more than 1 passenger or fly at night...

Sorry, Dwayne, you need to do a little more homework on the Ercoupe (pronounced "urcoup") not aircoupay. Around 2000 still exist and parts can be bought as new old stock on the internet. The canopy does not slide back but instead, the plane houses side pockets for the side glass to slip down into which allows the pilot and passenger to flight in the open air. The plane is so docile that a placard is required stating that the Ercoupe is typically incapable of spinning. Not a fast airplane but certainly a lot of fun for typical local flying, although some pilots are known to fly from coast to coast in them. Barnstormers is a good place to find coupes and they seem to cost around mid $20,000 even though it seems that prices lately have been rising.

No coverage of the Rockwell Commander on the thumbnail? I was disappointed, that's my clsic plane of choice, and there is so little out there on them! Really neat, unique planes.

@michaelwhitley2081

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your comments wholeheartedly, but they’re not that common so information about them is of interest to fewer people. You might consider becoming the source of more information about them? They’re really great aircraft. Now, about the trauma hawk…🥴

The DA20 was also powered by a very unreliable Rotax. The pic at 26:42 is from a long gone flight school from Winnipeg Manitoba called Flying Colors. At any given time, half of their fleet was unavailable due to engine problems and lack of parts.

13:41 thats my favorite cheap plane. Its like a flying regular cab pickup truck, a flying daycab.

Preaching to the choir here, but flying is by no means cheap no matter the plane. However, still not sure how the Globe Swift didn't make the cut yet an SR20 did.

You missed the Piper Saratoga when you got into the G36 and 206 - in addition to some of the other comments.

30k plus is not affordable to the average person. Also, the cost to maintain and fuel costs are above the average person's reach.

Car drivers: "It needs a navigation system, seat heaters, bluetooth radio, stearing wheel heater, 4wheel drive....." Pilots: "PLAAAAAAANE!" 😁😍

It's not the price of the plane, it's the upkeep. You can get a decent 172 for about 40 grand (less than a price of a brand new truck) but flying it for 100 hrs/year can easily cost about 10 grand or more if there are some surprises during annual.

@toadman506

Жыл бұрын

This, In reality unless you have a butt-ton of disposable Income, you have to pretty much "Rent" it to yourself, and put an amount you've calculated into a specific Account, for each hour you fly. This way you always have an Emergency Cushion if something DOES happen. The other thing, if you're a Certified Owner, is get into an arrangement with an AP/IA that once you've shown your competence, will allow you to do work yourself, and be willing to sign off, and for Annuals, allow you to do all the Prep work on your own, this way you're not paying the AP/IA for all of the scut work of removing Panels, Access Covers, and Inspection ports.

@wanderingdoc5075

Жыл бұрын

I'm not intending on becoming a pilot, but the pricees you are quoting sound incredibly reasonable.

@toadman506

Жыл бұрын

@@wanderingdoc5075 Yeah, expect to pay somewhere around 10,000 (US) for your Private Pilot license. So, you get your PPL..and want to buy yourself something to tool around in. Yes you can find LOTS of aircraft under $50,000. Problem is, What kind of aircraft are you looking at, what's the total time, what's the time Since Overhaul? What avionics are in it?, Have all the AD's been addressed?, How often has it flown? So, you filter through all the Dross and find your Nugget, and buy it. You're a brand new PP, with around 80 Hours (Being Generous)....guess what your Insurance is going to cost. As an example a Friend of mine, with thousands of hours, Flew fighters in both USAFR and USNR, Flies for an Airline. He wanted to build an RV-8 (Single engine, high-performance 2 seater). He was told that until he had over 100 hours in that aircraft, he'd be looking at almost $1k per month in premiums. So, yeah Homebuilts are a bit higher right now, but I'd be very surprised if you aren't paying less than $650/Month, for something like a 172. Oh, yeah another factor.. Are you tying down? or renting a Hangar/Space? WHERE are you located? Tiedown in a place that has harsh winters or lots of Hail drive your premiums up too, Please, understand I'm really NOT trying to talk you out of General Aviation, But there's a LOT involved, and I've seen people come across what LOOKS like an incredible deal, that turns into a Black Hole of money.

@wanderingdoc5075

Жыл бұрын

@@toadman506 my brain runs a million miles a minute. I can assimilate information quite fast, high IQ I guess but my vision isn't that good and I have massive ADD. I am a medical doctor and I don't want to be the next stereotypical Dr who crashes. I very much prefer large commercial planes, I feel safer in them. I'm curious about aviation but I do not think I would make a good pilot.

@JWells-mz1jr

Жыл бұрын

@@wanderingdoc5075 Hey, doc, don't work on me with your terrible lack of co fidence...

160 knots is the 172's never exceed speed, that doesn't mean you can fly at that speed.

Loved the video - Seems the Grumman Tiger or the Mooney M20 are the most interesting.. But the ads here - my o my. Has anyone in the history of youtube ever bought something from these irritating ads??

Nice video saw some negative comments, but the overall video was fun to watch been flying for 38+ years and flown 12 of the airplanes shown the prices may vary and upkeep on anything complex is expensive with over 5500 in private planes owning one is not always the best option when you can rent especially if you just going to be an occasional flyer, flew my C150 everywhere then got a 172 at a good price and just sold it last year due to vision issues will miss it greatly. All depends how far you want to make you hobby go I have friends who play hockey and spend more money in their hobby than I ever did on my planes, just saying .

@jeffreyryan7671

10 ай бұрын

Wow, a paragraph out of ONE sentence. Most writers would need 2.

I guess I will stick with paragliding. Actually affordable and fits in a backpack.

@EmilyTienne

Жыл бұрын

Doubles as a tent.

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

And probably safer

@903lew

Жыл бұрын

Last wing set me back 3000 USD brand new, spend the rest of travel, beer and navettes to the start. Love the idea of flying a plane but the price is quite staggering for a paraglider pilot.

Buying an airplane is easy. Keeping it maintained is another story.

@evanwindom

Ай бұрын

Ding! We have a winner of the "Understatement of the Day Award". I'd venture to say that even new owners who think they did their homework will be surprised at what it actually costs to own, store, insure, feed, and maintain an airplane. Annual inspections can be non-events, or they can make your eyes water.

Renting and or leasing are two options you may want to explore. Personal ownership isn't the only way to get yourself into aviation.

You missed the Rockwell Commander from the thumbnail!!!

@jeffh7039

Жыл бұрын

Yep! WTF!? That's some oddly specific clickbait! haha!

@gb9926

Жыл бұрын

Yep, they missed the sexiest aircraft you can buy for 75-125k! A Rockwell Commander 112 or 114 ✈️

Buying the plane is just the tip of the iceberg. You need a hangar, insurance, lots of maintenance, revisions, constant upgrades to follow the ever evolving regulations. It's just a deep money pit. Planes are like boats and helicopters. They make you extremely happy on two particular days : when you become their owner ... And when you find a buyer to get rid of it ;-)

@goldendemise3165

Жыл бұрын

Older planes are relatively cheap to maintain compared to other aircraft

@ToshisanMotonaka

Жыл бұрын

I really want to get my PPL reading this is a bit discouraging 😭🤣

@gordo1163

Жыл бұрын

@@ToshisanMotonaka You have to just rent planes or hop in someone else's every chance you get. There is no other choice.

@frankwirth8507

Жыл бұрын

An airplane is a spot on the airport that you shovel money.

@Sombre____

Жыл бұрын

Just the fuel consumption is out of most people's wallet.

Best price I'm finding on a grumman tiger is 110k... where are you finding a good flyable tiger at 45k?

The Ercoupe was available with fabric covered wings thus some were not all metal. Some models also had rudders. I have flown both and think they are great aircraft.

@mobile-to6rz

Жыл бұрын

all had Rudders, just not the control pedal. There are pedal kits for earlier models. I recently looked at one that was converted back to no pedals. The Yoke controls the rudder with the ailerons.

@tonypence0602

Жыл бұрын

@@mobile-to6rz interesting...I did not realize this. Great info. Thanks.

Well done! Thanks!

Love the David Hayter impression

One year later and all of these prices are $10,000 to $30,000 too low.

Did he say that the Cessna 172 could do 160K at high power? Yeah, only in a dive straight down !🤣

@quantomic1106

Жыл бұрын

Lol Yup. It's Vne is 160 At that point, the plane will probably fall apart.

@douglasrodrigues8361

Жыл бұрын

@@quantomic1106 I've occasionally referred to the Cessna 172 as "The Cessna 172 Aero Sluggard." Even with a Lyc.0-360A1d with a constant prop in my old 175 (same basic airframe) a Mooney with the same exact engine and C/S prop will indicate 31mph faster cruise speed at 8,000 feet. It baffles me how much the latest 172's sell for.

@cruiserflyer

8 ай бұрын

I LOL'd hard at that one. This makes me think this video isn't what it seems on the surface, like it was put together by AI because nobody that generally knowledgeable about GA would say that about the most famous plane out there. Everybody knows that plane tops out at about 120knts. The newer ones can do better but not much.

Well done, this was super entertaining even though I don’t plan on buying another airplane.

ive been trying to buy a g1000 172 for the last 6 months and havent seen one go for under $500k

The tecnam p2010 is an excellent plane. I’ve trained in it for when I got my instrument rating and it’s a great aircraft.

All lovely aircrafts. I saw a few I'd love to pirchase. But....

The Tomahawk is easy and fun to fly.

“Cheap” is a relative thing - someone on an average UK salary, with the usual outgoings, would not consider any aircraft as cheap.

Thanks!

HOW IS $650,000 CHEAP!?!?!?

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Muhahaha! Inflation I suppose

Thank you.

have you checked prices online? a tiger is way more than 45000

Could you please do a more deep dive in depth video about the Vulcanair P68 please.

Great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I used to love the cirrus that I had It was like a limo and yet it was a small unit

@Aviator27J

Жыл бұрын

I bet it was great flying it! Unfortunately, it costs a ton to buy one (not counting other costs). They look super fun though.

The Piper Traumahawk. I don’t think I’ve seen any that didn’t have wrinkled skin at the wing roots. The Beechcraft Musketeers, on the other hand, they’re near bulletproof. I used to be a member of the Beechcraft Musketeers’ Association, MidAtlantic Region. Great fly-ins! Darn I miss flying.

@willgraham784

Жыл бұрын

What’s a Beechcraft tomahawk? Piper, ?

@garyowen9044

Жыл бұрын

@@willgraham784 fixed it. Sorry, I had Beechcraft on the brain.

@willgraham784

Жыл бұрын

@@garyowen9044 you’re good lmao😂😂just messing around

@tristandawson6417

Жыл бұрын

I flew a Sundowner (sub model of the Musketeer) for a while during my IR. Solid plane, nothing fancy, but a very solid and pretty roomy trainer.

@doch.8039

Жыл бұрын

I flew a Tomahawk for my PPL training. Loved it to bits, never had a problem with it.

You could have about 15 corvettes and 7000 horsepower in your garage for the price of one new Cirrus

- 30 Cheap Airplanes - SR22T mkay

1 million dollars i might have that in my piggy bank in my dreams. Seeing some of these descriptions makes me realize that even if i could learn how to fly and could pass a physical, i couldn't afford the plane, it's maintenance or the fuel to go anywhere. Guess this limits me to book learning about flying in the event that i was ever in one of these planes and the pilot passed out maybe i could figure out how to land the plane. Some of these planes look great but a great number of them don't fit in my wallet.

I just subscribed to your channel.

Almost all the info about the 172 Skyhawk was wrong. Makes me wonder if the other planes were as incorrect.

Why is there an interior shot of a Piper Cub (or Supercub) at 24:04 in the section of this video describing the Mooney M20?!?!

Ercoupe, ignore the last E. The chaparral is not a 160 knot plane. Ever.

If you're looking to buy a plane, and you're a little older - you need to discount range. I have a Cherokee that will go 5 plus hours or >550 miles. Unfortunately, I can only go about 3 hours...

Airplanes have more than doubled in price in past 5 years! Hangar is impossible to get most airports! Fuel is 6-8$ a gallon! Maintenance is difficult to obtain as there is a mechanic shortage!

2:26 I flew that one. OO-IWA; Brussels Aviation Schools’ plane. I have 2 flights with that plane. 😁

How is a $400,000 Tecnam single or the $650,000 Tecnam twin considered a cheap new plane? 90% of the list of new aircraft are anything but cheap.

My 150 cost me 18,000 but it’s range well, I have landed on two highways so far

These prices he suggests are …not realistic. The cost of a good airplane even a year ago was much higher.

Great plane spotters video. Many thanks

There are also planes like Jodel and Robin planes you can find mostly in France. Very good planes, Robin DR400 is the more common plane for learning in France (and that's why you can have it in the basic version of MSFS)

The G Tiger is for me😂

Excellent and nostalgic video. However, you missed three excellent cheap and efficient aircraft that are still very much available and popular: First of all, the Piper Pacer and Tri-Pacer, especially the Tri-Pacer. cheap, safe, as well as easily available and maintain, b) The Piper PA-23 Apache, the first Piper Twin, c) the Cessna 310 and last but not least, the Cessna Skymaster and Piper Comanche.

@garymccann2960

Жыл бұрын

My Swift was very affordable. But I did my own maintenance kep my panel very basic. My friends spent more on their bass boats.

@douglasrodrigues8361

Жыл бұрын

Our Aero club Tri-Pacer back in 1964 had a 8 gallon aux. gas tank under the pilot's seat. There was a notch on the throttle shaft which when aligned with the friction knob became your economy cruise power setting. Kind of an obsolete airplane now but if I could find an affordable one, I'd buy it.

@douglasrodrigues8361

Жыл бұрын

@@garymccann2960 Same here. I did all the work on my old Cessna175. A buddy signed off everything I did (STOL kit; flap gap seals; new plexiglass) or I couldn't afford to fly the plane. I even did a Lycoming engine conversion with CS prop, cowl modification and an oil cooler plenum, and had the FAA issue me a one time STC for doing my own conversion. Interesting that one doesn't have to have a mechanic certificate if the FAA approves the work? I was told, "you're not a licensed mechanic but you do good work. However, now that we've issued you an STC, only a licensed mechanic can work on your plane. I know you'll still work on your plane but don't let us catch you.😊 That was 40 years ago. I would have installed a tail dragger kit had I not ran out of money.

@jayesh5131

5 ай бұрын

​@@douglasrodrigues8361 Wow Do you still fly?

Not a single Polished product? They are making some the most interesting planes out there. Ie Virus new $170k and with lr tanks has a 1500 MI range and cruises at 160mph

You comment on the entry cost but the cost of intial repairs, routine maintenance, annual inspections, and overhauls after that intial cost means the average person cant afford thier own plane.

@slploudmouth

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the average annual inspection so long nothing needs AD recalls or fixing is around $4,000- 9,000. Avg piston plane total ownership is between $17,000-55,000yr. Anything above that is usually turbine.

High grade arrow comander!!

I live in moldova Whats the link for the cessna?

To find a reliable airplane that is IFR capable and has descent avionics ads-B compatible etc. with good interior, and below 1300 hrs is around the $160,000 + mark. Anything below $100,000 will be super slow, limited in weight and balance, and outdated in avionics, or timed out on engine. ( unless you find a miracle gem) I am hoping too.. To just fart around under a 100nm range or if its slower than molasses 100kts or slower tas it better be below $50k mark. The plane values have gone bonkers lately.

How come you didn't show aTwin CamAm?

If your a multimillionaire, the airplane will now make you just a millionaire

I find the general public don't like tandem seat light aircraft. From a pilots point of view it can be difficult. I had a passenger who wanted to over fly a volcanio, at 9800ft., At the best of times tandem seat aircraft are not suitable to fly passenger's around in. To much work load. Thing's can go wrong, with mechanical turbulence.Many times wind at 30-kts makes it hard work.

Do you know how much it sucks to be able to want to do something and can't afford it. Dad's cancer cleaned me. Out unfortunately I will never be able to take him for a ride. He lost his battle

Saw very little on the "Coupe" critique. First, there is no accent mark anywhere near the E, thus you were pronouncing it wrong. Spoken as coop. Second, like one person wrote, there are a number of iterations, with both fabric and metalized wings. Third, there are quite a number WITH rudder peddles. However because Fred designed this plane to fly without them, most have found that the versions with rudder peddles fly MUCH WORSE than the "2-control." And here is my real pet peeve! With a history of owning as many as 7 of them at a time for several years, AND being trained by one of the last Real "coupe instructors that was also an FAA examiner, YES YOU CAN SLIP AN AIRCOUPE!!! However, you had better be ready for a drop faster than a rock when it is done right!!! I have around 300 hours in my Coupes, and would be happy to show ANYBODY how to slip, crab, or properly land a coupe in up to a 30KTS / 90 degree crosswind component! And finally, there was an aftermarket wing made for these that was commonly called a "sparless wing." I owned that one with my father and flew it for over a year. I even still have the plans and dies for the fabrication of them. And, there are still a couple places that sell the "fixer-uppers" for under $6K. Just sayin...

I'm looking to fly a minimum of 3hrs a week to my office and back. Maybe more for a weekend flight. Any idea on what would be cheap, efficient, and easy to maintain? I'm not worried about weight as it will only be me and my 40lb dog. I'd like to be able to fly at night but I don't think having an IFR would be a big deal as I'd only be interested in flying on clear days anyways.

@JWells-mz1jr

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You don't need an IFR rating in order to fly legally at night...

@rocketman9828

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@@JWells-mz1jr Yes I found that out.

@ahoneyman

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A Cessna 172 would be a good choice. Parts are everywhere, every mechanic has worked on one, and used ones can be found all over. You're flying about 150-200 hours a year so a good one with updated avionics and a recent overhaul is gonna be $80-100k and $10k in maintenance/storage costs yearly.

Why are there no Bellanca airframes talked about? The Bellanca cruisemaster is better then most of the airframes talked about. The Bellanca Viking is incredible and not even mentioned.

LOL, I have my PPL. Cant afford any of those, flying is now a rich man’s hobby.

@jamesosborn6358

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With the current fuel prices even driving is a rich man's hobby

You missed out in discussing the Piper Cherokee variations

No Van's Aircraft models?

You went for my $30,000 aircraft to 1 million. I thought this was planes average people could afford.

@davidhook1980

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It depends on what he considers the average person and income. You can also look into join/ ownership/club ownership or leasing a plane. Lots of options if you don't have cash or the discipline to save for what you want.

@soaruk3697

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@@davidhook1980 Well the average income in the USA is in the $60-65,000 range - so if you don't eat for a year and live in a tent you might be able to afford some of these planes. I'd call a cheap plane sub $30,000....

@davidhook1980

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@@soaruk3697 even at 60 or 70k per year it's cheaper to rent or if you want to buy then live in a hostel or RV so you can save up.

@soaruk3697

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@@davidhook1980 All depends on how many hours you are flying, where you are flying from and what you are flying.........not necessarily cheaper to rent......

@davidhook1980

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@@soaruk3697 true. Cost goes down the more you fly so the richer you are the better off you will be. I wish I had a wallet like Travolta and could have my own fleet. Now that would be a dream come true!

Are you also Dark Skies or Sandboxx? I'm confused.

Question for you Aviators who also own Boats! Does this apply to airplanes as well: I'm told the two happiest days of a boat owner's life are the day they buy it and the day they sell it?

watching this and looking at my taste... i found out that i still need more money! lol

Well to own a plane is a thing the other thing is to pay insurance the hangar the same thing is with a car too you don’t pay for that you pay the other cost too

Grumman Tiger for $45,000. Good luck.