No real change will occur until we can place an impenetrable wall between those making the laws and money from those that would be affected by those laws. We can't let those with money make the laws.

@ayoubabditedjini1986

3 жыл бұрын

Money is the law you can say upgrade the law and the money which leads to success

@waelfaraj6705

3 жыл бұрын

Money is a form of energy . Change the energy frequency feeling the connection to source energy ...

@waelfaraj6705

3 жыл бұрын

God is in everyone and everything, after the winter comes the spring, The divine is never limited by anyone or anything , All that matter is a wonderful thing ...

@srtghfnbfg

3 жыл бұрын

Especially since right now there's no actual democracy. Elected officials need funding, so they will get it from rich investors (whom have influence through their controlled medias etc) who will then make them enforce the laws they want as it's been for the past 100 years and more. For instance, bacon, eggs and orange juice is not the "traditional American" breakfast. Edward Bernays (the father of propaganda) brainwashed the population only because rich capitalists wanted to sell their products. Also, 100+ years ago the richest used to get taxed 96% of their profits above a certain threshold. Now it's barely 30% (without taking into account all the tax evasion loopholes that they abuse nowadays)

@waelfaraj6705

3 жыл бұрын

@@srtghfnbfg These large capitalists are like the hidden shadow governments or the world elites...

This is an upgrade from the last few episodes. At least it's not a sellout marketing video for social media.

@niccolom

3 жыл бұрын

Well said. Funny thing is, this video is like the opposite of the communist social media yesterday.

@stundogha4947

3 жыл бұрын

@@niccolom That's because TED doesn't make the talks dingus, they're platformists.

While this idea sounds really nice, it cannot work properly in practice unless the citizens are well educated, they are well versed in critical thinking and at the same time the outlets where information/news are coming from need to be unbiased. How do we achieve all of these?

@LouieAblett

3 жыл бұрын

We need you to take charge of the world and fix all the education problems you see, and educate everyone to believe exactly what you believe is correct, then hand us back democratic power whenever you think you’re finished.

@oekalaboekala

3 жыл бұрын

Many people are incredibly worried about how the citizenry will cope with the responsibility, but when you look around, I think you'll find that most of the world's problems are caused by highly capable individuals. Think of the Australian rock shelter blown up last year. Evidence of many thousands of years of aboriginal habitation were lost to an explosion, making room for the extension of a mine. Even if you completely eliminated aboriginals from the decision making progress I have a feeling the vote would still be unanimous in favor of preservation. You don't have to be that well educated to make good choices.

Citizen Assembly, participatary budgeting, online consensus forming

Democracy cannot work without an element of meritocracy (such as the UK Civil Service manned by the qualified experts in any field to guide the population and politicians). The most dangerous failing of democracy in the C21 is that there is now no direct link between the 'popular' and the 'best'.

@keepower

3 жыл бұрын

Blame the social media

1. Public assembly (eg. Canada mental health ) 2. Budget discussion ( eg. Kenya) 3. Online consensus forming (India mygov)

Until we remove the rich and lobbyists from politics, nothing will ever change to better life for the average person.

@ethanthornton8687

3 жыл бұрын

Look at quality of life 150 years ago and tell me it hasn’t improved.

@icmepm84

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ethanthornton8687 Just because you can look back 150 years ago and say life is better now, does not mean that life is as good as it could be. I understand that the rich have their place and they are needed, that is where my paycheck comes from. But, just like how many will scream "Church and state are separate", I believe that rich politicians that are being bought by rich lobbyists should be separated from state.

@jessehardin8500

3 жыл бұрын

Comoletely agree with both your comments

@myspace1876

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethanthornton8687 quality of life in west is a consequence of colonial era. If democracy can bring wonder, then south Asia which has democracy and independence for the last 75 years must have become like west.

@myspace1876

2 жыл бұрын

Democracy is the only system where rich and lobbyist has power over the government. Infact democracy is a system developed and run by big businesses because it gives them more guarantee for their wealth.

The biggest problem with democracy is trust. To trust you must know. To know you must have information. ACCURATE information. Sadly disinformation is the more popular one to media and internet. Try making a netbased newspaper for and by your government with all the ACCURATE information and a quick way to contact IT if you should have questions.

@enieh112

3 жыл бұрын

A sub-problem is time. Most people don't have required time to really understand the problems of everything. If someone were to try the idea mentioned above, keep in mind that it should be informative, simple and NO opinions. Cold hard facts, as it were. If you get opinionated information it is, as i see, a bought vote.

A person is truly optimistic only when they just don't wish the future to be better but try to make it better.

Sharing, Truth and Peace for All.

In America, we can't upgrade Democracy because we don't have Democracy. This would be a dream come true.

@patrickhowe1843

3 жыл бұрын

Anarchy is your dream come true?

@carpeimodiem

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan_Dossou We don't have separation of power. We don't have checks and balances. We have endless war. We have a collapsing empire. A collapsed middle class. And soon we will have trillionaires. All with full bipartisan support. And no support from the American people. That is called Oligarchy. Oligarchy has corrupted every level of government on both sides. What we see is the political theater dominating the headlines. Billions are spent every year to keep the people divided. Divided into camps, focused on opposing sensationalists, driving the "lesser evil" bandwagon. Every level of major government has been corrupted. Just last week South Dakota had their amendment for the legalization of marijuana overturned. The people have spoken... Where are *their* checks and balances?? They have none. *Actual* Democracy is the real separation of power. The *real* checks and balances. Turn off your televisions.

@carpeimodiem

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickhowe1843 Are you joking or just illiterate?

@carpeimodiem

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan_Dossou uhhh... greater detail than that??

@patrickhowe1843

3 жыл бұрын

@@carpeimodiem not joking nor illiterate.

About the get togethers of the 100 people reflecting a people perfectly: Even if said council may consist of a composition equal to the distribution of the groups with those traits in a community/district, thereby making said composition representative of the community as a whole, this does not imply that the outcome of the work this council would provide to the community would be fair. We cannot suppose that majorities, which are almost inevitable, will choose to vote in favour of moral standards instead of those favouring themselves (those often collide). Which in turn would inevitably collude in segregation caused by majorities bettering their lifes henceforth causing impoverishment, as well as therewith coherent hierarchy, thereby diminishing every positive effect caused by such a proposal. In order to be able to make this work, clever regulation, determining how much of the council should be made up of certain groups due to many effects such as raw percentage representation in the community, good will/ Bad will against other groups (especially minorities), predicted suppression of others (determined by group size and other factors), etc., would have to be brought forth. In general though, determining who should have a say seems almost impossible to be fair in such a constellation

Fantastic 🙏🙏🙏👍

Interesting talk

In the 21C, we have the following options: 1.Corporate America, 2.Authoritarian China, 3. Something else. This guy is looking for that something else, so am I.

@WANDERER0070

3 жыл бұрын

China has most sucesful economy,in the world,plenty o work,food low cost living,no homeles junkies, safe cities,and yes people can and do critisize the Goverment see BARRETT chanel or Living in China or Gweilo60 or Reporterfy media travel..the Western anti china propagamda is all BS China style comunism is the way

@fumimitsuzawa8349

3 жыл бұрын

@@WANDERER0070 There are a lot of propaganda on internet from CCP.

I believe that a change can occur but still needs a lot of improvement when it comes in including people in political decision-making. Still the ideas are not bad, but again there are certain gaps that we need to fill : 1- Commission Assembly composed of 100 people it is not a bad idea but again not every time a majority is right, and again every individual in that commission represent himself and not the people, and an idea can be appropriate for one group of people but not for the others. Again i believe that it will form a divergence.

I took the risk dealing with Austin on KZread and finally end up with perfect testimony.

As a Canadian...we already do a lot of this....❤️🙏🇨🇦I feel blessed to live in a country that strives to take care of everyone.....

@fmcg5364

3 жыл бұрын

You are lucky, when I thought Trump was going to win again I started to look up places to emigrate to Canada sounded like a good place, trees, calmer people, but it isn't as easy to emigrate as I thought

A great work!

I think a Bottom-Up approach where a group(of say 10) select one amongst themselves, and then at the next level the same happens, and so on..until we select the numbers required for District/County/State Senate, is much more preferable to above.

From azerbaijan-Hello

awesome talk, world could be a better place if we implement this asap, how to? make majority humans wealthy enough to care.

Bravo. Thank you for confiming that my hope for democracy is not as naive as it feels sometimes xD Really gives me hope to hear the mentioned innovations and solution concepts for everyday direct democracy by the public for the public!!!!!

Speaking of technologies used to help people discuss their opinions... how can we make sure they won't be used to manipulate people instead of letting them freely express their own opinion? I believe recent facts did not help us to trust in the right usage of such technologies... I won't trust a technology designed to make sure 80% of people agree together at the end of the process!!! From my personnal point of view this sounds like the contrary of being free to have any opinion, that may be, at times, different. Democracy is not to make sure people agree, it's to make sure everyone is heard and that every point of view is taken into account in the making of important decisions.

@dorkwell

3 жыл бұрын

In other articles and videos I have seen, the main idea to give the public more education in the particular topics, not to convince them of a certain angle. I can certainly see how this could be taken advantage of, but the sentiment is a good one

Implementing these ideas seems extremely difficult in context of India, which is having a huge population with no proper education. I found this video cause my sociology prof. Shared it in the class, i wonder how many other students actually came to this and understood the thing his explaining.

@Vedangi_

2 жыл бұрын

Hii 😂❤️

Imagine being this early for a ted video

@adityashaw3198

3 жыл бұрын

Turn on the notifications

The suggestion of assemblies by 100 is applying market focus group to deciding -- not creating, on public policy. Likewise, with suggestion #3. Online, public participation is just widening the focus group size. Suggestion #2 is re-inventing the wheel. Or at least in the US, we elect representatives -- what makes the US a republic, who caucus and decide for the general population. A budget is comprised of all things thought the government must spend money on. If anything else is to be added -- only added, never replace, is introduced by lobbiest and elected officials. Conflict arises because there is disagreement on spending some portion of the money on that addition or some specific thing. By example, in the US, leaving aside how there is some dishonesty in what goes into a bill, huge political debates on amounts or whether or not that amount should be spent on X vs Y. In some respects, we see it as extension of the family. Makes little sense for the children's input on family budget because they do not have the experience or education on wise budgeting and how best to spend money. Likewise, some parents. Kids would want dinner money for ice cream and MacDonald's every night but sage parents know that is bad idea and kids need a balance diet.

This is really a good speech.

@kokofan50

3 жыл бұрын

It was terrible. He spent most of his time waffling as the Brits would say.

See the comment section came up with the better solutions than this speaker, which only proves that he is right 😅 ეჰ...

@TheMarveller

3 жыл бұрын

online consensus. heh

Its Awesome

yes! YES! SO YES! I FEEL LIEK THI - I feel like this is a positive ideal and a strong step towards righting the _many_ problems we have now. YES!

India is becoming less and less of a democracy everyday

@anirbandas8307

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@vaibhavgupta20

3 жыл бұрын

+

@husandhaliwal1713

3 жыл бұрын

Indians go to sleep its... 1AM in the morning!!!

Gov't is force. Every law, every dictate is backed up by the threat of force, and when you resist that force, the guys with badges often won't hesitate to end your life.

@remyllebeau77

3 жыл бұрын

If anyone is interest to know more, watch the Jones Plantation video.

How about we upgrade our republic?!

We must change our current political and economical global systems, government should not be here to control us, we should make a plataform where we can all vote for how we use our resources, products, laws and education, voluntary organizations should exist to organize the available resources to ensure a peaceful future for everyone, and they are not doing that, there is unemployment everywhere, global organizations should hire voluntary people to solve the problems that we as a community decide to solve, it should not be one small group of people that choose the future of all humanity, that is false democracy, it should be our decision, social classes are not a choice, we could all have abundance, the difference of this system with communism and socialism is that there wouldn't exist a group of people that controls us, we would be the ones to choose our future through a real democracy system

Indias ruling party need to see this

@Vedangi_

2 жыл бұрын

If only they knew the basic meaning of politics and democracy, unfortunately they must first legally qualify the school broads.

I'm being paid at the legal rate thank Heaven. It's the guy that's paid four times as myself that's breaking the Law!! Moving on, I keep saying to myself one hundred bucks extra would help a lot. And maybe that could turn out to be true.

Scrap it completely,work on true equality and restoration of the world.

“All teaching is is vain without an eager public”- Nicolas Vachel Lindsay ‘ the village improvement parade. I hear a few good ideas - Yes indeed a great mind, I challenge you to Broaden your scope. In my thought Using AI isn’t cheating :)

If people chose authoritarian leadership like Hungary it doesn't mean that democracy is finished. It means that weak leadership is not effective for poor countries with agriculture driven economy. Democracy works if they have support from majority of population

Too many still living in the 19th... We cant go without them.

We can start talking about democracy when there is no one starving on this planet. Until then, democracy is just a word.

@RoKappa

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMarveller So because there are less people starving in "democratic" countries that's make it OK somehow? My point is that democracy should be about people and their basic needs above everything else. Is there democracy when you see a homeless person searching others people's leftovers just to make it another day?

@Vedangi_

2 жыл бұрын

That's true

Huge tangent, but I can't stop seeing a face in his front pocket kerchief.

nothing new here. he just gave a talk with beautiful words about USSR . the end of this we already know.

I can't work, anyone able and willing to help keep my family afloat, please find my other accounts where I've pinned our funds

What you do is Barter. And what do people Barter! Food and services. Not petroleum.

Those ideas in my view are more used to make people feel like they are participating without letting them participate in anything important. I like the ideas and they are ok, but they won't fix democracy. I observe a lot of those ideas in countries like Poland where I live where you've got all the local initiatives and you are giving local communities a sense of participation and decision making power, but that has no impact on the democracy going down in the country. For example you give citizens 1mln $ to decide what they would like to have, but at the same time you are pushing billions on propaganda that is killing democracy. Democracy is working fine on a local level in many places, even if we are talking about big cities or small countries, but the current global issue is democracy not working on big stages like European Union, USA, etc.

@radoskan

3 жыл бұрын

Read Jason Hickel, you'll like it.

# compelled speech - sorry for the typo.

The day you go to a carpenter to treat your heart disease, that day I will come to you asking what shall be the policies of my nation ~ Me a future dictator.

Switzerland has direct democracy

1st

Reminder : PROCLAMATION OF THE FIRST DIRECT DEMOCRACY OF FRANCE, JULY 14, 2019 IN PARIS The people have the natural right to form or abolish any government for the purpose of ensuring their own security and sustainability. On this July 14, 2019, National Day, We, the people of France, once again declare our inalienable sovereignty. With constancy and obstinacy, the people of France, with or without a vest, denounced the corruption of the republic and the illegitimacy of this false representative democracy. Access to information, induced by the advent of modern communication technologies, allowed us to make a lucid observation of the uselessness and even of the harmful character of the political representation set up as a system, almost always concussionnary, subservient to the big world bank and the military-industrial complex which enslave the peoples of the whole world. Everyone has the right to speak for themselves. Collective decision-making through citizen structures freed from the republican yoke can now be achieved. We hereby declare that we have the right to do so in every corner of France, in our districts, our municipalities, our cities and our provinces. In order to restore the destiny and sovereignty of the French people, we hereby proclaim the first direct democracy in France and we invite all the citizens of France who love justice and freedom to meet in constituent assemblies, new institutions which will see the light of day soon in each province of France. Everyone can thus bring their own skills and expertise to the established democratic structure in order to determine together the rules of our mutual ties. We will not go back. National Council of Vests meeting in Paris, July 14, 2019Rappel : PROCLAMATION DE LA PREMIÈRE DÉMOCRATIE DIRECTE DE FRANCE, LE 14 JUILLET 2019 A PARIS Le peuple a le droit naturel de constituer ou de supprimer tout gouvernement aux fins d’assurer sa propre sécurité et sa pérennité. En ce 14 juillet 2019, jour de Fête nationale, Nous, peuple de France, déclarons une nouvelle fois notre souveraineté inaliénable. Avec constance et opiniâtreté, le peuple de France, avec ou sans gilet, a dénoncé la corruption de la république et l’illégitimité de cette fausse démocratie représentative. L’accès à l’information, induit par l'avènement des technologies modernes de communication, nous a permis de faire le constat lucide de l’inutilité et même du caractère néfaste de la représentation politique érigée en système, presque toujours concussionnaire, inféodée à la grande banque mondiale et au complexe militaro-industriel qui asservissent les peuples du monde entier. Chaque personne a le droit de parler au nom d’elle-même. La prise de décision collective par le biais de structures citoyennes libérées du joug républicain peut maintenant être réalisée. Nous déclarons par la présente que nous avons le droit de le faire dans chaque recoin de France, dans nos quartiers, nos communes, nos villes et nos provinces. Afin de rendre aux Français un destin et une souveraineté, nous proclamons par la présente la première démocratie directe de France et nous invitons tous les citoyens de France épris de justice et de liberté à se réunir en assemblées constituantes, institutions nouvelles qui verront le jour prochainement dans chaque province de France. Chacun pourra ainsi apporter à l’édifice démocratique direct mis en place ses compétences et expertises propres afin de déterminer ensemble les règles de nos liens mutuels. Nous ne reviendrons pas en arrière. Conseil National des Gilets réuni à Paris, le 14 juillet 2019

These ideas have been around for decades it won’t happen we have never had a democracy it’s more like a plutocracy with corporate direction

Real content starts from 6:20 Thank me later.

@doyouseetorpedoboats8893

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

O:54 "it was only the men". I wish people would stop telling this lie. It was the gold people, including men and women. The lowest gold woman was still above the highest silver person, man or woman. The lowest silver person can't vote but is still above the highest copper person. Go look at rich women in India. Compare them to poor men. That is the truth, divide people by rich and poor, not men and women, to see the simple truth.

@elinope4745

3 жыл бұрын

The lowest of copper people was still above the highest slave. Women often were the slave masters, along with their eldest son. Women inherited the land of their dead husband and were expected to pass it to their eldest son, who in turn is expected to take care of the entire family with that land. Can't be a gold person without land and a status given to family clans for special activities granted by that same democracy.

You cannot have Democracy, with big populations. So you cannot have it in modern countries. The Athenians that invented it, were probably hundreds of thousands of people. Not millions. In democracy, in order to participate properly in the polis affairs, the politics of the state, you have to be able to be head of the state, no matter your profession, wealth, or social status. This is impossible in modern times. No one would let a garbage collector or a former prostitute, become head of a state, even if they were adequately educated and good in politics, and good to govern. In ancient Athens, you could be voted to head of the state if you could persuade the crowd with your speech, at the Agora. But even there, some inhabitants in Athens, didn't have civilian status and rights. Like the slaves they had from other Greek City States. Democracy, though, is not the best way to govern. It's just the better of what is uvailable so far. We just need to try to excersise it the real way. As it was intended. With real participation of everyone that is a citizen in a country. Not every 4 or 5 years, as the speaker said.

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Is Rex confused offering Canada and its authoritarian laws in cimoelled speech as an example of improving democracy? How does Rex validate citing Brazil, renown for its top to bottom political corruprion that includes bribery, embezzlement, nepotism, cronyism, clientilism et al, as an example of improving democracy. I'm may be mistaken, but is Rex blind to the 21st century's technology trends in communication that have actually hastened the erosion of personal freedoms and democracy in favour of a techno based form of totalitarian rule?

@hootsmin

3 жыл бұрын

Rex will never see the techno-fascist totalitarian utopia coming, he's busy spitballing about democracy (mob rule) while the liberals, world over, are pushing stake-holder capitalism which is thinly disguised fascism since the stakeholders are not we the common plebs, but the artificial persons that are Corporations, NGO's and Charities and they are telling the governments how to legislate.

This is the kind of thought that gives rich, white people in America (Republicans) epilepsy.

Gaddafi advocated for something similar. The Wesr destroyed something they didn't understand because it was ahead pf its time

A dreamer who dreaming: dream on...

Horrible title, but the video itself is not half bad.

This past year the Covid-19 Pandemic and the final trouble Trump with the republicans basically supporting him has shown how broken American Politics is. Britain is not much better. It has been a depressing 2020 and 2021 looks to be not much better.

Hi mate. I'm not worried about people of clout. There exists a reason they have money, okay?? How about the trouble makers who get twice or three times in benefit allowance than myself...? I am getting just $400. Okay? Check your DB for people getting up to $1500 weekly mate. Weekly.

What u need is a bigger police state.. because everybody jst wants to go thr seperate ways given the choice

Nice model ... until you factor in human behaviour.

Upgrade Democracy? Is there any democratic counties left as I'm pretty sure the U.K has never been and America isn't any more.

@gotpaladin9520

3 жыл бұрын

The US was never a democracy.

I'm not an optimist because I think I'm going to die if homelessness before this stuff makes it to my area

@GaasubaMeskhenet

3 жыл бұрын

Land lords should quit their "jobs" Property hoarding isn't a job Rent is extortion Homelessness is violence No one gets a second house until everyone has one

@hootsmin

3 жыл бұрын

@@GaasubaMeskhenet You should start saving for a tent if you dont like landlords. It was not the landlord who took your job and your way of life, it was your government. You going to sit around waiting for a handout (with conditions) from big daddy gov the home-wrecker, or are you going to spring into action and do something about it for yourself? I am thinking the former, but we will see. Anyway good luck with whatever you decide.

@GaasubaMeskhenet

3 жыл бұрын

@@hootsmin my whole family is disabled. So should we just die?

@TheMarveller

3 жыл бұрын

What you think is what will happen to you Try thinking positively. Try _feeling_ positive. Stop complaining about stuff. You may think all is lost, but all is truly lost only when you have given up hope. Trust me, I speak from experience. Hope your situation gets better😊

@GaasubaMeskhenet

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMarveller I've held onto hope for so many years how much more does this country want from me? I'm so tired

Myself and my mum aren't taking responsibility for Ibrahim's acts in any way. He came to our country during the eighties OPEC abracadabra type of stuff. They've infested entire Europe. Why don't you tell the guys about your friend Roland from Lake Balaton.

There can be no true democracy while capitalism exists.

@niccolom

3 жыл бұрын

Because of the "agency problem". Everyone is looking for the most benefit for himself, instead of what's best for the country.

This was a lot of hot air with very few actual details or explanations. Most high school presentations are more informative about the subject they’re talking about.

@franciscollingwood7372

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Some of the suggestions depend how they're implemented and may allow current problems to increase: populism, in particular. Wholly-decentralised budgets are less prone to the croneyism risk of centralised budgeting, though.

@kokofan50

3 жыл бұрын

@@franciscollingwood7372 populism is the opposite of the the problem

@franciscollingwood7372

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, we'll have to agree to disagree there. Being told what we want to hear is a poor way to choose our public servants.

@kokofan50

3 жыл бұрын

@@franciscollingwood7372 as opposed to what? The people in charge only serving their personal interests?

@franciscollingwood7372

3 жыл бұрын

No, telling you one thing - usually an imaginary enemy or "other" to fear - and then telling you they are the ones to save you from it. See UK; also USA 2017-2020.

FIRSTTT

This guy may be smart, but he needs to practise not to murmur. He's sooooo boring even though I'm interested in the topic.

Lol no thanks

I’m sorry. How in any way is the UK ungovernable???? 😂😂

@AdrianTechWizard

3 жыл бұрын

Because the Brexit vote went the 'wrong' way.

@benmyers3544

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianTechWizard I would have voted remain if I was old enough. Looking at the EU’s recent actions I’m really not so sure I would vote remain now

@AdrianTechWizard

3 жыл бұрын

@@benmyers3544 The EU does some great things regarding science but it is extremely undemocratic and was showing no sign if reform. I don't think the majority our political leaders actually believe in democracy, it's more like they're trying to work around it.

@AdrianTechWizard

3 жыл бұрын

*of reform

@EvdogMusic

3 жыл бұрын

It continues to elect majority government from minority vote share, and it's barely managing to hold onto Scotland and Northern Ireland

How about One person, One Vote? If the people in the U S actually had a voice we would be in a better place.

How to make a very interesting subject very boring...

@Won1707

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, this should have been a debate instead of Ted talk.. he would have got answers why his points won't work

Democracy? Ha ha ha. Interesting fiction.

Democracy... Two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner..

This talk was more crap than meaningful content

In America 74 million people watch FOX news only...your ideas seem hopeless here.

This guy has eaten why to much rainbow stew.

@briandubbin7294

3 жыл бұрын

Goof

# 1 Don't be a Democrat. # 2, See #1

@briandubbin7294

3 жыл бұрын

You have no intellectual opinion.

@briandubbin7294

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisfinest1 wrong guy in pic. See first message. 🇨🇦❤️🌍🍀🇺🇲