I have moved to putting sleeping bag, pillow and sleeping pad inside the tent and then stuffing that bundle into the drybag. If it's raining, everything is already in the tent. Eliminates a bunch of separate bags.

@kee7678

2 ай бұрын

might have to try that.

@wobblysauce

Ай бұрын

Same, as you are rolling it up poles go in the middle and are protected.

@kee7678

Ай бұрын

@@wobblysauce worried at all about...vibration rubbing and making holes/tears in tent or anything?

@wobblysauce

Ай бұрын

@@kee7678 never been an issue for me, that is how tent came and found it better then some others having the poles and pegs as extra bags, never need to look for them as they are always with the tent.

Yes, option three, with a dry bag for sleeping gear - sleeping bag/quilt, mattress, pillow and blow-up doll and a separate dry bag for the wet gear - tent, chair, table, etc. When arriving at camp, pitch tent, chair and table, then make your bed inside the tent. This will keep your sleeping gear dry, even in rain, and you are organized to set up camp quickly. Always pack the bags with the stuff you will need last, first. That is, first your sleeping bag, then your mattress and pillow. In the tent bag, your rain fly goes in first, then your tent, then your groundsheet. Panniers are for tools, clothing, galley and other miscellaneous stuff.

I've always reserved my saddlebags for my clothing, food items, tool kit, etc. and put my tent, sleeping bag, pad, etc. in dry bags on the rear rack and seat. I like to keep the sleeping bag in it's own separate bag on the rear seat to act as a back rest or lumbar support on those longer asphalt rides, but having it there can prevent you from being able to slide back when riding off-road.

I like the dry bag method, tent and sleeping pad go inside as well. If I need to camp away from the bike, it’s nice to have all the camping gear in one bag. If I’m hoteling it for the night, it’s nice to have all the camping gear in one bag that I don’t have to open.

@blakeberlin6295

2 ай бұрын

Tents can and do get wet. I put my sleeping quilt, pad, and pillow in a dry bag. The bag gets packed and unpacked inside my tent and therefore is ALWAYS dry.

Good video. I use the dry bag method. My dry bag is a little bigger so I can also stuff some misc gear in too. It also makes a great back rest since it sits on the seat in front of my top box

Awesome, Ben. Def' waterproof dry bag 👍👍

I use the dry bag method, but I put my tent and sleeping pad in it as well. Then have plenty of room in my panniers for heavy items. Great video and thanks for sharing.

I was a bit skeptical in what I could learn about packing a sleeping bag but you did it. My critical thinking skills are lacking, because I never thought of just putting the bag in the pannier to take up empty space. Makes so much sense...thanks!

@MotoCampNerd

2 ай бұрын

That's what we're here for! You aren't lacking in critical thinking, we are around this stuff all day and still learn new stuff every day.

@wobblysauce

2 ай бұрын

You don't know what you don't know.

Stuffing our bags in a waterproof bag works best. Stuff sacks are awesome but they create a large incompressible shape that’s hard to pack around. Both our bags and BA tent will stuff in that double ended waterproof bag. Works amazingly well.

Great tip on stuffing the bag in your pannier, moto camping for 30 years and hadn't seen that before.

I used option 2 but the downside is your sleeping bag is last to pack after the tent. When it's a wet morning I struggle to keep the bag dry while I pack up the tent and everything. I'll try #3 next time!

Thank you Ben. Did I hear you correct, "Bespoke Bag", great phrase. Loved the fabulous content, keep it coming!

Hi, I have tried all ways you described there and I have used the sea to summit event compression bag also which is good but now just stuff it into my OS 12 Kriega bag and secure on top of my small top case or OS bag. In the summer I used a down 3 season bag which in the sea to summit drybag can compress it down to very small size and fitted in the lid of my topbox. As I have gone away from hard luggage and use the Kriega OS18'S and other bags I take far less now as space is premium. I did find I was hauling a lot of stuff not needed. Bob in the UK

Nice bike. I just got a transalp. I cant wait to take it camping

Love this

Really good video! Appreciate your content very smutch!

@DorkintheRoad

2 ай бұрын

LOL

I love this video so SMUCH

@DorkintheRoad

2 ай бұрын

lol

I've experimented with a few setups and I think it's a better idea to stuff the tent in the pannier, not the sleeping bag. Because the sleeping bag lofts, I find it really difficult to keep it from expending and preventing me from rolling up the pannier, since it gets caught in the folds. This might only be an issue for me since I'm using a Mosko Moto setup and the bags are more tubular shaped. Either way I find it easier to manage since you don't have to keep compressing the sleeping bag as you add more stuff. Plus the tent is often the first thing you want to set up so it makes more sense to have it at the ready.

this video came at the exact right time, just bought a echo park zero degree bag and its taking up way too much room, i think ill try the stuff in the saddle bag method, cuz its still HUGE in the compression sack i have for it

And good night.....you put that problem to bed.....😂😂 Good job Ben...and good products other Ben.

I like #3 💯✌🤟🤘

I have gone a certain way for a long time, I have waterproof stuff sacks and sleeping bag and pad get strapped very high on the rear load.. usually use 1in lashing straps because the bag and pad don't have any weight doesn't make the bike feel top heavy, and because they are behind me , doesn't feel like any significant wind drag. Another benefit is I normally air out my sleeping bag and it's nice to be able to wait until last minute to put it on the bike.. also gives an Easy Rider look it that's your thing

4th option, just wear the sleeping bag while you ride 😂

@DorkintheRoad

2 ай бұрын

We call that the "Tall Man Moto" method.

I have the Diamond Park 30 and the 0. Have not had a chance to use the 0 yet. I did try to pack it into a moto trek to see how it was. That is a big bag even packed. Also, as a variant on the stuff sack, you can use one of the side dry pods that come with the coyote/great basin. Stuff it in there enough to get the three fold/rolls on the closure. Then use the air valve to squeeze that thing down to...still kinda big on the 0*. lol

I run nelson rigg stuff and their hurricane bags are awesome! I keep all my explosive, heavy and awkward stuff in the top bag and the clothes,sleeping bag,pillow and other soft stuff goes i to the side bags ( mainly in case of a crash nothing explodes or get busted up)

@MotoCampNerd

9 күн бұрын

Yeah keeping the fuel away from the exhaust is always good. Been there before!

@MontanaDirtRoads

9 күн бұрын

@@MotoCampNerd or grinding it into the roadway

I keep all, lightweight, sleeping gear in one waterproof bag on the top of the rear rack. My camping routine is as follows: #1 pitch the tent #2 get sleeping gear ready for the night #3 check the bike #4 pop that beer and relax (#5 get the campfire going if no hazards)

The problem with just stuffing the bag into the pannier, is that you've got nothing to keep the bag clean, or seem anything else contaminate it. My preferred method is have the sleeping bag which is usually light and put in a roll bag on top i.e. your 3rd method.

I go with the 3 external bag method. 1) Sleeping bag, pillow, mattress, 2) Tent, poles, dry fly, and 3) Wet fly as required

I use # 2 and 3. All my heavy goes in fist and fluffy 2nd. Roll tight. Dry bag is sleeping bag, one set of shirt,undies and socks ( I like to have spares lol) Side note, i grew up that down is supposed to be stuffed not rolled for short term storage, hung when not using

On your website you have the Rogue dry bag incorrectly titled as the "Rouge" dry bag.. just fyi.😊

@MotoCampNerd

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Dork caught it the other day and then we forgot to go fix it

Two things: 1. I will have to defeat my OCD and try stuffing my sleeping quilt into the pannier. 2. I feel like I've just been red-pilled on how to pack my camping gear. Why have I never thought of this??? (probably because of the aforementioned OCD)

@MotoCampNerd

2 ай бұрын

I (Nerd Ben) have the same problem and want to keep everything in individual bags to compartmentalize them so I know exactly what is where at any given time. I have several friends who have packed their sleeping bag this way for years and it drove me crazy, but it makes sense. lol

Just buy a snug pack, no extra equipment necessary….

@MotoCampNerd

2 ай бұрын

We carry Snugpack and they come with a compression bag, but not the best option or bag for many.

This guy's a dork.

Stuffing the sleeping bag in the pannier doesn’t work in real life when things get wet and dirty. Maybe in youtube fairyland…

@MotoCampNerd

2 ай бұрын

Speaking from years of riding in all weather conditions, it does work. Now, if you dump your bike in a 3ft deep mud puddle and your pannier is completely submerged, that's a different story. Obviously, there are stipulations behind every situation.

@FluxExplorer

13 күн бұрын

Good tips. That Giant Loop Rogue is appealing to me. It looks like a solid piece of equipment.