Interesting groupset. Looking forward to a no BS review of it.

I’d say you’re correct JOM. Number of gear positions on the rear derailleur controlled by the software. Planned obsolescence by the big manufacturers.

I've had it on my road bike for about a month now, I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts but so far I'm very pleased. I bought a 12 speed cassette last week and now my drivetrain is 12 speed.

💯 correct on drivetrain “limitations” set by SRAM and Shimano. There’s got to be a way to hack them

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

I have always wondered about this... but beyond the scope of my IT abilities.

The best option is the ability to change each gear's position separately not just a global offset like the big manufacturers. It could been handy at my Rival XPLR rear derailleur's worn mounting screw/shifter body where the inside gears would need offset to the left and outside gears need offset to the right to compensate the excessive wear. Now I am working on a replacement ball bearing mounting screw solution instead of buying a new screw from Sram. It would not work due to the worn out shifter body.

Ribble Valley cyclist did a review of this system btw his name is jom😊 as well I'm liking it so far

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

I am the OG JOM 👌

@tmayberry7559

Ай бұрын

@@GravelCyclistYes indeed. However, that OGC ( Original gravel cyclist 😁)

I really want to try this groupset. And yes the number of gears it will shift, if its within the derailluers mechanical limits is limited in software. Always wondered if shimano derailluers can be hacked for example custom firmware. Never used di2 planning to get grx 825

@GravelCyclist

28 күн бұрын

Hey Jason, if you decide to pull the trigger, you can use my Amazon link here - amzn.to/4bwYayj - you pay the same price, and I get a small cut to plop into the GC travel slush fund. Hoping to have a build video coming soon, lining up a frame and fork at the moment.

I'd love to see how well this works with 9&10 speed Campag-know-low (because the spacing for 11 and 12 sp is the same as Shimano) and if you can unscrew those two screws holding down the battery case and see what the specification on the rechargeable batteries is. Worst case is that you can wire a dead battery to recharge it with a rechargeable USB power bank hidden in the frame. Calipers look kind of ugly, though.

i didn't get it from the video, the only difference between rim and disc version is that they give you the brake calipers and hardware? are the rim and disc levers identical? this would mean that they somehow managed to have both cable pull and hydraulic in the same housing.

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

Hello there, rim brake levers are different, they are not a combo of hydro / mechanical cable pull. I don't know if rim brake calipers are supplied.

I wonder if the MTB derailleur for a wide range 1x would work with these road shifters...

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

That would be nice, their website indicates MTB type thumb shifters for now?

I am ready to put this groupset on a project bike NOW. How can I get it in Southern California???

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

Hey John, follow my link in the video / description to save yourself a few $, prices are listed in USD, so I expect they will ship to you in SoCal. Good luck!

@johnbransonIII

Ай бұрын

@@GravelCyclist Thanks for your response, Jom! I am after the rim brake version and will let you know how I make out.

@johnbransonIII

Ай бұрын

SUCCESS Jom! I ordered the Wheeltop EDS TX rim brake version throuh your Amazon Marketplace affilitate, XZX Components, on June 12th, 2024 and the groupset arrived on my San Diego doorstep today, June 20th, 2024! Thanks for your help.

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

@@johnbransonIII Superb! Please keep me posted on how the rim brake variant performs.

@johnbransonIII

Күн бұрын

@@GravelCyclist I have completed the installation of the Wheeltop EDS TX rim brake version on a 1993 Bill Holland titanium road bike. Straightforward installation of the brakes using the supplied (and installed in the levers) Wheeltop brake inner cables along with conventional outer cable housing to older DuraAce rim brake calipers. Braking system works flawlessly.

Good Point about the Software controlling the shifting - SRAM and Shimano are just giving us the Apple-Microsoft consumer treatment 😢

Think for now only sold outdide of North America or the Americas in general. So just Euro/Asia for now.

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to seeing how this drivetrain performs... stay tuned for more.

@bklyncyclist

26 күн бұрын

I've seen them on Amazon for the US. Inexpensive too.

@GravelCyclist

26 күн бұрын

@@bklyncyclist Affirmative, available on Amazon USA.

So its a throw away system if the battery goes prematurely as U cant replace the battery

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

There is likely a way to replace the battery, as I explained in the video.

@eugenem.9428

Ай бұрын

If they can put a battery in, there’s a way to get it out

@GravelCyclist

Ай бұрын

@@eugenem.9428 Exactly. The other dude wasn't paying attention.

@JimIBobIJones

Ай бұрын

Its a lithium battery. It will last 5-10 years before you get significant drops in capacity. Even after that, it will be good for 40-50 mile rides. IMHO you are going to want to replace the groupset anyway by the time the battery is bad enough to replace.