I have spent my life feeling stupid because I didn’t understand this stuff and now I realise that I just wasn’t taught the basics properly. I wish that I’d had a teacher like you, Sir! My life would have taken a completely different direction. This 62 year old thanks you very much!

@aikofujita2420

10 ай бұрын

Me too! Im 63

@SUEELLENELASALI

10 ай бұрын

I'm from overseas and I noticed most teachers are the same THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN MATH & SAID IT YEARS AGO

@tonyferreira6679

10 ай бұрын

Yes! this teacher was born to be teacher

@My-Pal-Hal

10 ай бұрын

Don't feel bad. The dude F'd Up the grammar of the opening statement. So he's no genius 😂

@My-Pal-Hal

10 ай бұрын

​@@tonyferreira6679 See, another english scholar.

I am a 77 year old woman who had a couple of very intimidating math teachers in middle school so I never mastered algebra and have regretted it all these years. Thank you for your KZread channel. I watch it every night on TV and I am determined with your help to finally be able to conquer this and cross it off my bucket list. Thank you, John, for your patient teaching.

@LivingroomTV-me9oz

10 ай бұрын

Nobody tell her that this isn’t algebra…

@sylvisterling8782

10 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomTV-me9oz I am sorry, but algebra is imaginary. It does not exist. What is a number? It is a symbol indicating how many objects, thoughts, concepts, items exist in a given space. (...) is described as the number 3. What is a letter? A letter is a symbol indicating a sound. "A" is a sound. "Three" is a word, a sound made up of letters, but "three" is NOT (...). Just as you cannot add a stone to a board or a piece of paper to a dog, you cannot add, subtract or do anything combining a (...) to a letter! It simply does not work. Yes, you COULD mulch the board and reduce the stone to sand and throw them together, but ultimately microscopically, you will ALWAYS have tiny rocks and wood fibers! I havd explained this many times and nobody seems to understand it.

@natebarg

10 ай бұрын

@@sylvisterling8782what does that have to do with algebra? Sure someone had to come up with the concept of algebra so in that sense it is made up, but math such as algebra has useful applications in real life. Without someone doing the math you wouldn’t have a device to even watch this video. So I guess I don’t understand your point about it being made up.

@123mathtutorabc4

9 ай бұрын

@@sylvisterling8782 c'mon dude, this ain't no abstract algebra course, it's a video on order of operations. Nobody seems to understand because you're explaining to others based on what you want to hear and not explaining in a form that will compel others to listen. You're basically explaining it to impress yourself, you're not necessarily explaining something because you want others to understand. Algebra comes from "al-mukhtasar fi hisab al-jabr wa al-muqabala" the title of a book written by Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (which is also where the word algorithm comes from), colloquially its means "the reunion of broken parts". Originally, letters were not used represent unknowns, rather the algorithms used to solve problems were written out in steps, much like a recipe. Sometimes the algorithms were written out as poetry as a means to help better remember them.

@williambelford9661

8 ай бұрын

This is arithmetic not algebra

3(5 + 20 / 2 x 5) brackets first .. and 20/2 first 3(5 + 10 x 5) then 10 x 5 3(5 + 50) then 5 + 50 3(55) then 3 x 55 165

@Dragonblaster1

2 ай бұрын

Totally agree.

@sonsofjorge7730

26 күн бұрын

I do agree as per PEMDAS rule.. but application in real world such as physics, chemistry, advance math, engineering does not follow this. juxtaposition is included in the rule. hence your answer is still wrong

Correction......."if we have both multiplication and division, neither has priority and we work from left to right". So the answer is 165.

@johnwood2223

8 ай бұрын

I was also taught that multiplication had equal priority to division, but another respondent said that division comes before. I can’t agree with that as they are interconnected functions.

@miraheil5521

7 ай бұрын

In my head

165. Depending on the country, the name of the order of operation may differ, but the concept is the same. I learned BEDMAS... Brackets, Exponents, Division and Multiplication, Addition and Subtraction.

@meghnac78

10 ай бұрын

Yep. I learned BODMAS as well (of just meant exponent) :) Got 165 as well.

@mkovis8587

10 ай бұрын

What's the point of a pnemonic (pedmas) to help you remember when all it does it make you do an error if you don't remember that it actually is pe(dm)(as). I would've expected more logic from math people who came up with this.

@nicholaswion846

10 ай бұрын

When I learned the order of operations, it was presented in a graphical form, with the various groupings on separate lines, with an arrow pointing down on the left, with the label, "Simplify," and an arrow on the right pointing up with the label, "Solve." That way it was clear that multiplication and division were in the same class of operations, and addition and subtraction were in a different class of operations from multiplication and division, but were in the same class as each other. The teacher gave extra credit on tests if you drew the graphic on the upper right side of the test paper, and he would indeed occasionally have questions where you were asked to, "Solve," instead of, "Simplify," and to get the correct answer it was necessary to reverse the order of operations. That was over 30 years ago, and I still remember every detail of that graphic, so it was entirely effective.

@DEXATUA

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I solved this with bedmas as well 👐

@cannonball7984

10 ай бұрын

@@mkovis8587*mnemonic

Multiplication and division are of equal value and are done in the order that they appear in the equation from left to right; the same is true of addition and subtraction. It should be 3 x (5 + ((20/2) x 5)) = 3 x (5 + (10 X 5)) = 3 x 55 = 165.

@dennissvitak148

10 ай бұрын

I came in to type 165. You are quite correct.

@pandaycorp

10 ай бұрын

PEMDAS is probably understood correctly in some countries. BEDMAS removes confusion, where B refers to brackets or parentheses.

@JediJan

10 ай бұрын

@@pandaycorpWe referred to this as BODMAS; Brackets of, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction.

@RJ-cx1gt

10 ай бұрын

@@pandaycorpI was taught BODMAS as the order of operations; brackets, order/exponent, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction.

@Xinder720

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I got this correct answer on my 2nd try. I was trying to figure out using PEMDAS and of course that is incorrect.

Hello, I am British and we use BODMAS, eg Brackets, Of (to the power of), Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction. Using this mnemonic means you don’t have to complicate the process further by having to remember to check on the order of the division and multiplication within the brackets. Division is always carried out first ie before multiplication.

@FranklinThe1

9 ай бұрын

No in Bodmas what you do is based on going left to right in the equation in this case divsion comes first in the equation (going from left to right) so you do division first but if the multiplication came first left to right then multiplication would come first.

@josh8584

6 ай бұрын

@@FranklinThe1You’re right but they’re not wrong. Doing division first always gives the correct answer because it’s simply multiplication by the reciprocal of the number following the division symbol, and it doesn’t matter what order you multiply in. There’s no reason to go left to right. Just understand what division actually is and you’ll be fine. I hate the people just mindlessly repeat rules they’ve learned without understanding them.

@thesmithsmaf

6 ай бұрын

Yes thats right we use BODMAS in UK and use the nifty expression Bugger Old Dad! Mums Arse Sags - so as to handily recall it when doing operations

To solve this expression, you need to follow the order of operations (PEMDAS/BODMAS), which stands for Parentheses/Brackets, Exponents/Orders (i.e., powers and square roots, etc.), Multiplication and Division (left-to-right), and Addition and Subtraction (left-to-right). In this expression: 3 * (5 + 20 / 2 * 5) Let's break it down step by step: First, evaluate the expression inside the parentheses: 5 + 20 / 2 * 5 Now, follow the order of operations within the parentheses: a. Divide 20 by 2: 20 / 2 = 10 b. Multiply 10 by 5: 10 * 5 = 50 c. Add 5 to the result: 5 + 50 = 55 So, the expression inside the parentheses simplifies to 55: 3 * 55 Finally, multiply 3 by 55: 3 * 55 = 165 So, the answer is 165.

@thesummerthatwas76

9 ай бұрын

Unlesss you are a maths teacher, how on earth could you remember that rule? (I won't say you looked it up). I worked in pensions admin, actuarial, finance and insurance all my life but couldn't recall all that you laid out.

@johnbeard3733

8 ай бұрын

but the m comes before the d. so why dont you multiply the 2 x 5 first and then divide into 10?

@peggyp3517

8 ай бұрын

@@johnbeard3733because the rule is you go left to right. Multiply or divide (whichever comes first), then add or subtract next (whichever comes first)

@johnbeard3733

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Peggy

@thenetsurferboy

8 ай бұрын

Because he does not understand@@johnbeard3733

I'm 60 and had never heard of PEMDAS or wasn't listening in class. But after 2 previous videos I've watched of yours, I got this correct! Shocked and proud of myself. I wish you were my teacher 45 years ago!

@davidmurphy563

10 ай бұрын

Nicely done.

@l.medina6251

10 ай бұрын

Wow! I hated math, but I remember PEMDAS. I specifically remember the mnemonic, Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally =PEMDAS! I teach it to my grandkids today! My granddaughter is gifted in math & way ahead of her peers! She's 10. Proud grandma here, sorry! 🤭

@Upemm

10 ай бұрын

Same, but I know I was never taught this,which would have made maths lessons so much easier……# sigh

@garfieldsmith332

10 ай бұрын

I am older and we were taught the rules for equations; however it was never referenced as PEMDAS or any other acronym. We just remembered it by the function names.

@mamaAfrica3062

10 ай бұрын

We were taught BODMAS. I too have never heard PEMDAS

The critical clarifying moment that you presented here is the insertion of the simple word "OR" in the PEMDAS sequence. I don't recall ever hearing it simplified that way by any math teacher back in the day or in any other KZread presentations. I take my hat off to you in thanks, sir!

@robertromig90

10 ай бұрын

My teachers never got it to me either. They taught us how to do it but told us to go in order of letters, not multiplication or division. Multiplication, then division is what we were taught. I don't think my teacher was that skilled in math and just tried using the book with the answers in it. You can't teach somebody how to do something if you don't know how to do it yourself though.

@brendanh8193

10 ай бұрын

This actually shocks me. I remember several teachers saying or. Another way of thinking about it is, if there is a run of multiple and division operations in a row, they all are acting on the first number.

@clv603

10 ай бұрын

@@brendanh8193 that's still not 100% intuitively clear. Left-to-right is necessary because division is essentially a fractional expression. 1 ÷ 4 and 1/4 is the same thing. Left-ro-right means you resolve the fraction into a whole number before multiplying by a whole number. If you go right-ro-left, you accidentally multiply the denominator by a whole number. The most intuitive way to understand this is 1 ÷ 4 × 5 is to convert it to (1/4) × (5/1). Now you're multiplying two fractions, (numerator × numerator) / (denominator × denominator). This is easier to understand when you have something like 1 ÷ 3 × 5. If you do left to right, 1 ÷ 3 doesn't resolve to a whole number. It's a fraction with repeating decimal .333333... Decimals are weird and confusing, especially repeating decimals. You run into problems of precision using them in calculations which is why representing them as fractional expressions is preferred, especially in equations with irrational numbers (pi, square root of 2, etc).

@djslip_irie

10 ай бұрын

It’s even easier in Canada we were taught Bedmas. Which dosent allow for the mistake of doing the M first.

@davidraen7017

10 ай бұрын

The important thing to realize is that division is just multiplication by the reciprocal and subtraction is just addition of a negative number. So really it should just be taught as PEMA and perhaps people would be less confused.

Got this one right, even though math used to be my worst subject ^-^ After getting a very bad grade at algebra, I started practicing it alot and actually started to enjoy it alot. Eventually I got one of the highest grades of the class and was alot of fun, like just making puzzles. Glad to see some still stuck ^^

@emeryltekutsu4357

9 ай бұрын

Yup, immediately realized people get it wrong because they're doing the addition first.

Another method to help you with PEMDAS (or confuse you more ;-) ) is keeping in mind that a **division is just a multiplication of the inverse value or reciprocal so that will transform your problem to: 3 ( 5 + 20 * 1/2 * 5 ) or 3(5 + 20*.5 * 5) , so now the division disappears and you do left to right multiplications in order first. 3 ( 5 + 10 * 5 ) => 3 * (5 + 50) , 3 (55) = 165 or when you are down to 3*( 5 + 50 ) , you could use the distributive principle you use in algebra of a (b+c) = (ab+ac); (3*5 + 3*50) = (15+150) = 165 to verify that you answer is right. Keep in mind that PEMDAS is just a trick for your to remember order of operations, but as you learn more math there are other tools that will help you gain speed or find easier ways to solve problems that might be more relatable on how your own brain works. This is fine example of how simple arithmetic is a foundation block for algebra, geometry, trigonometry, pre-calc + more. **Note: this is mostly true with integers and rational numbers, you run into some issues later in life in computing, software, with irrational and imaginary numbers like pi. :P

@drift_ah1518

9 ай бұрын

a faster way to do this in this example is 3 ( 5 + 20 / 2 * 5 ) = 3x5 (1+10) = 15 x 11 = 165

@martinbrenner6664

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, this is great. I don’t really need it, but I love knowing how to do it. Even though I could have used it 45 years ago.👍🏻

I got 165 and did it in my head. I was lucky to get a really good education growing up. I guess it comes down to the luck of where you live and which school you get to go to. Thanks for sharing this lesson.

I was taught Parentheses in order from left to right, then Exponents from left to right, then, Multiplication and Division in order from left to right, and finally Addition and Subtraction from left to right. Addition and Subtraction were equal in that you don’t prioritize one over the other and same with multiplication and division, you just do whichever appears first so 3x(5+20/2x5) 3x(5+10x5) 3x(5+50) 3x55 165 I’m really not a math fan, but my favorite math classes in school were business math and data analysis & statistics. To me they were fairly simple and the teachers I had were amazing. The business math teacher was a very kind and understanding professor who was very good at explaining it so that you got it the first time and he didn’t even make us get the book, he just read from his own and we all worked the problems out together. My data analysis and statistics professor didn’t make us get the book either and he actually introduced a lot of humor into his teaching style, but he had that really dark and sarcastic type of humor like mine, but he was never mean about it and genuinely cared about helping you learn. With the war on teachers in this country the last few years I really hope they haven’t been burnt out by it, especially since I live in a deep red, but northern red state.

I really appreciated this refresher.

Great video! I never could remember how to do these type of problems. After watching your video its perfectly clear…. And ive been out of school for 40 years! Thanks

42. The answer to everything in the universe .. except this. It's 165 3(5 + 20 / 2 x 5) = 3(5 + 10 x 5) = 3(5 + 50) = 3(55) = 165

Practical comment: As a 35+ year engineer… just use extra sets of parentheses. Or break it up into smaller parts. Or both. Other people may be looking at your work. Regardless of the correct “rules” it’s better to clearly communicate what you are doing … don’t assume that the other people know the rules as well as you do.

@thomasmaughan4798

10 ай бұрын

"As a 35+ year engineer… just use extra sets of parentheses." And then everyone would get the same answer and it would not be clickbait. There's dozens of these videos with minor variations so we can argue about it.

@ArjanKop

10 ай бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 they are nice, though, but of little practical use.

@oldfarthacks

10 ай бұрын

Very true, be explicit in how you want the problem to proceed. The best way is to design the problem so that it will give the right answer if it is fed into any computer on the planet. If it will not, then clarify.

@kevinreist7718

10 ай бұрын

As a fellow engineer, (since Mar 1980, 43 years 5 months) I totally agree with you, I haven't even watched this video yet but I can clearly see that the equation is very poorly expressed. Just the part inside the parenthesis can be solved as 55 or 7. I'm leaning towards 7 because the video description shows 3 times ( 5 + 20 / 2 x 5 ) and because it's expressed as a fraction, you should solve the denominator first. Then, you have 5+20/10 or 5+2=7 Making the overall equation 3(7) or 21. Now I'll watch it and I'm probably wrong. Yeah, according to the video, I was wrong. But the fraction 20/2X5 does equal 2 and then, 5+2=7. At least he admits that math teachers do try to trick their students. He says it's to see who was paying attention in class, However, he doesn't go into the actual psychology behind this, which gives you the real reason, they do it to boost their own EGOs. They do it to feel smarter than their students, by tricking them. Tricking them doesn't make them better teachers. Rather, it allows them to ease their own inferiority complex and feel better about themselves (probably because they were called nerds, or geeks, so often in high school). It has nothing to do actually with teaching the students. I hope he was able to boost his own EGO with this video and then, he can feel better about himself. 3(5(20/2)+5) would have been a much better way to express the intent of this equation. It communicates the intent more clearly because you're not trying to trick your intended audience. I gave your comment a like. Have yourself a great day!

@workrmtly5582

10 ай бұрын

Spot on!

John, I love your math channel. I am a math person as well! Numbers & Math are the universal language. I think we should connect one day, I believe we would get along extremely well! Hope you channel continues to prosper!

Appreciate this content! Wholesome, true, and even though I got 21 initially: you were not condemning.❤

@billregan3232

9 ай бұрын

Likewise here...

3[5+(20÷2)×5] --> 3[5+(10×5)] --> 3(5+50) --> 3×55 = 165

@weebee6922

10 ай бұрын

ya took me less time than you to write that.

@putinscat1208

10 ай бұрын

I agree, this is basic order of precedence.

@alan4sure

10 ай бұрын

​@@weebee6922me too.

@druu9

10 ай бұрын

Thank you

I am actually quite proud of myself. NO ONE could ever make math make sense to me in school; At first I solved it incorrectly but as soon as I saw it written with a proper division sign opposed to the forward slash, which I also recognized as divide; I knew to do the division before the multiplication and got it right. And all in my head. Major accomplishment for me!!😀 I'm quite sure I couldn't pass a grade 8 math exam though....

Wow, your videos have shown me exactly where I stopped learning math around the eighth grade. (Where I was still getting in trouble for working the problems in my head.) I never learned PEMDAS, but it was not for a lack of people trying to teach me. I just didn't much care about school. Not knowing PEMDAS must be what doomed me to failure in pretty much all higher levels of math, I somehow passed algebra one, parts one and two, in ninth and tenth grades. I failed algebra two as a junior, and took geometry, (which I actually enjoyed and did well) as a senior. This is the third video of yours I've watched now, and the first one which I was able to answer correctly!

In the Netherlands, the answer would be 21. Unless they changed the rules. The formula in which order to solve this over here is (was?) Meneer Van Dalen Wacht Op Antwoord (literally translated Mr Van Dalen Waits On Answer) : Machtverheffen (not applicable here), Vermenigvuldigen (multiply, so 2x5=10), Delen (divide, so 20/10=2), Worteltrekken (not applicable here), Optellen (add, so 5+2=7), Aftrekken (not applicable here). So we end up with 3x the 7 from within the brackets, equals 21.

@joshuahaught4812

10 ай бұрын

You would divide first because that's the first order of operation within the parentheses from left to right, after you would multiply.

@dilbert0815

10 ай бұрын

Simply no. PEMDAS is misleading. Multiplication and division are equal level. Here its left to right. Its that simple. Same allpies to addition and substraction: same level, left to right. Any one familar with programming languages knows this.

@WblutSundAehre

10 ай бұрын

​@@dilbert0815 PEMDAS also neglects Juxtaposition (implicit multiplication) which leads to ambiguity and wrong answers. PEMDAS: 6/2(1+2) => 6/2(3) => 3(3) = 9; which is incorrect but what most U.S. calculators will yield. PEJMDAS: 6/2(1+2) => 6/(2+4) => 6/6 = 1; which is correct. For those in doubt 1 is the correct answer visit the site alcula and go to the RPN calculator enter the following: 6, enter, 2, enter, 1, enter, 2, +, *, /

@kevinm.sanders3673

10 ай бұрын

Actually you just mess up the order the same as the rest of the world leading to a wrong answer of 21. Man I hated getting those papers back with the red pemdas written everywhere.

@skabuoy

10 ай бұрын

We were never taught about 'left to right', so the answer would still be 21. Good thing everyday life doesn't have to deal with this kind of nonsense. ;-) I finished high school with mathematics as a chosen, and never needed it after my graduation. So, as far as I am concerned, the answer could be 3,000,000.

I was taught PEMDAS (Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally) and got 165. 3(5 +20/2 x 5) = 3(5 +10 x 5) = 3(5 +50) = 3(55) = 165 Edit: I was taught PEMDAS in 6th grade and reminded again in Algebra

@ja-ni-ce1193

10 ай бұрын

I got it right to! 😉👍=165

@lilyz2156

10 ай бұрын

I was never great at math and I as well was taught this in 6th grade and my achilles heel Algebra as well. So proud of myself I got it right too! And remembered it!

@liamoshea9383

10 ай бұрын

I thought it was BEDMAS- BRACKETS EXPONENTS DIVISION MULTIPLICATION ADDITION SUBTRACTION. There is not a aunt Sally in math. At least it is in Canada

@Thumper770

10 ай бұрын

3(5+20/2x5) PEMDAS Inside parenthesis Parentheses: ... Exponents: .... Multiplication: 2x5=10 Division: 20/10=2 Addition: 5+2=7 Subtraction: ... Outside Prentheses P: ... E: ... M: 3x7=21 D: ... A: ... S: ... The answer is 21.

@DukeOfChirk

10 ай бұрын

BODMAS brackets Of. As in ‘power of’ Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction Following these rules, I got 165 I know BODMAS is different to BEDMAS or PEDMAS, but it means the same thing and I’ve remembered BODMAS for 40 or more years! So my teacher managed to jam this into my head that’s lasted almost half a century

I did that totally wrong by addition first and dividing the sum by the multiplied sum. 3(25/10)=7.5. That’s quite a difference. Thanks for reminding me of the order.

@alicejackson7676

10 ай бұрын

Me too. 7.5

@elainekilgore1352

10 ай бұрын

@@alicejackson7676, I thought I was alone. It’s so nice to have company. 😁

@SpideyVids

10 ай бұрын

That's exactly the way I was taught back in the 60s and 70s and I still think it's the right way. I nearly always get different answers to this guy.

@silvermane9370

10 ай бұрын

This is the way i was taught at school. After four decades in business i never get my figures wrong. I would be interested when and where the maths was changed.

@jchany137

10 ай бұрын

That’s what I got too. 7.5

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I need practice. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. So glad I found your channel.

I didn't have a good math teacher until my freshman year in college. For years I had struggled with math, although I had the GPA I needed to be accepted by the university. This one professor cleared up the mystery...from that class onward, the rest of my classes were a snap! My 8th grade math teacher was also helpful, but I still had headaches with math. My freshman math prof made all the difference.

My lord if you were my teacher I would be great at math. Your voice isn't threatening and your teaching is superb. I commend you and I thank you for posting your knowledge and your spirit comes through to teach younger people and adults like myself how to properly understand math. I applaud you, your parents and all of your teachers. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🎉😊

@stephaniefagan1736

10 ай бұрын

My son had a young lady fresh out of teaching college who taught high school math. She was awesome. He was an engineer.

@nukasnook1561

10 ай бұрын

Agree ... we need more efficient teachers. I have a friend who is becoming a teacher and she can't spell. That immediately limits her effectiveness as a teacher.

@JohnFourtyTwo

10 ай бұрын

@@nukasnook1561Nothing worse than an illiterate teacher. I had an English teacher about 50 years ago who couldn’t pronounce Yosemite, she called it Yo-see-mite but she was thankful when I told her the correct pronunciation Yo-sim-a-tee.

@cathynewyork7918

10 ай бұрын

@@JohnFourtyTwo Another way of saying "Yosemite" is "the most fabulously beautiful place to visit" - especially in the months of May and June when the snowmelt fills the waterfalls and Merced River. Great that you taught the teacher how to say the name of this most wonderful place.

@nukasnook1561

10 ай бұрын

Heh I live in New Zealand and I know the correct rendering of Yosemite.

I didn't enjoy math in high school, but I only had basic business math. When I stated college part-time, I had to take pre-algebra and learned to love quadratic equations. BUT outside of school and the fields of science and engineering, does this truly matter. I must say that after taking my math classes required with my degree, I never needed to use it again.

What program are you using for the screen/writing on the screen? I've been using Windows Journal which is no longer supported and haven't found a stable replacement for it. Looking at your screen it has most of the features I use journal for (maybe having grid-paper as the background is missing) so I was just curious.

I'm really glad when I see these problems in my feed and I get them right :)

Wow, I just realized how much I had forgotten in regards to basic math. Thanks for the video. I got it totally wrong. I worked left to right in the parentheses, then multiplied by 3.

@Inquisitor_Vex

10 ай бұрын

I did the same thing. Why wouldn’t you just put them in order of how you’re supposed to work it out?

@barstoolentertainment

10 ай бұрын

That would make sense, but I remember math had it's own set of rules. I just pretty much forgot all of them.@@Inquisitor_Vex

Plus and minus come in which ever order they come first X and : come in which ever order they come first. In this, here is the 4 second easy calculation that ran in my head: 20/2=10 10x5=50 5+50=55 3x55=110+55=165

@sandral.2828

10 ай бұрын

That’s what came into my head right away too.

@cadesigl7845

10 ай бұрын

Thank you Mesiah. I have finally found someone who has taugh basic arithmetic to me!

@dabj9546

10 ай бұрын

The order of plus and minus doesn't matter

@slipperyhand

10 ай бұрын

Im an electrician and im always confused with plus and minus

@russelldeitch5765

10 ай бұрын

In early teaching, ÷ said any function to the right first then the ÷ so 20 ÷ (2 x 5).

Thank you so much for this! I totally missed the m or D and A or subtract. I totally understand it now!

The world (and KZread) really needed another PEMDAS video

I'm 75 and terrible in math but I'm doing these to work my old brain. Thank you!

@breakmylegs7294

10 ай бұрын

I got 65

@ChasOnErie

10 ай бұрын

75 .. your a kid😀😀

I’m 61…(gasp) and someone along the way, taught me this…but I didn’t retain it. Today because of your video, I believe I got it! Pemdas! Love it…thank you.

Saw the video title and image, did the math in my head, went to the end of the video and....kudos to my elementary school teachers. Whatever you did, it stuck.

Thanks for doing this. Very good lesson, nicely taught.

Learned PEMDAS from you yesterday and solved this one quickly!

I got 165 too, we were taught BODMAS at school. Brackets, orders, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction.

@gravyz2cute4u

10 ай бұрын

Same, but I learned BOMDAS 😅

@patsavage1245

10 ай бұрын

@@gravyz2cute4u Which just shows you, It's just an agreed method.

I actually teach science but I took a lot of higher math since it was physics and knew the answer. I am going to put this in our staff zoom chat to see who in the math department can figure it out.

Instead of PEMDAS I taught my students PEMoDAoS, the little "o" stands for OR, when confronted by the same level of operation the one that comes first working left to right (the same direction we read) is the one acted upon. I had the kids make up their own sayings to remind themselves, the best was "Perform Each Math Operation During Algebra On Schedule". When the kids become invested they own it!!

@joycewilliams8111

8 ай бұрын

Brilliant ! Your students mnemonic makes more sense than any others I've seen. Congratulations. You are the kind of math teacher that can open their minds to the joy of numbers! I salute you.

I love this!!! Back in college, I majored in math and I love solving problems so this was easy for me. Needless to say, my nieces and nephews and grandkids all call me when they need help with their math homework - because according to them, I explain it "way" better than their teachers can! However, trying to help them solve complex math problems over the phone is a pain - especially when I'm at work or at the grocery store! Because well, when solving any math problem, it's all about the visuals! Sadly, I'd say that 95% of people who think they're bad at math, really aren't. They've just never had the benefit of a great math teacher to visually explain the proper steps to follow when solving a problem. I tell my grandkids to always follow each step and that a single problem can take up to a half a page to solve, and extremely complex problems will take up the entire page - front and back! Knowing the proper steps and following those steps exactly, will ensure success. After watching your videos, I have to tell you that you sir, are a fantastic math teacher! Not only is your voice very calming, your visuals are the best I've seen! This is exactly the way I have shown my kids and grandkids how to solve a problem - only this is better! Your use of the green "chalkboard" style screen, combined with your use of fonts and explanation of proper procedure is extremely effective. It's so easy to understand, follow and comprehend. I just forwarded your channel to my entire family! The kids will be starting school in a couple weeks, so I told their parents to subscribe to your channel and to start watching one or two of your videos every day. I told them to make a game out of each video by having everyone solve the problem on their own, then watch the video to see who got it right! By turning it into a game, it makes it fun for the entire family and the kids (and parents) get a refresher course so they're prepared when they go back to school - creating an everlasting boost to their confidence. I'm so thankful I found your channel. You are a Godsend to both parents and kids who struggle with math! Your channel is a game changer! Thank you so, so much! 💙💯

@respectbigman3133

10 ай бұрын

answer is easy 21

@ABC1701A

10 ай бұрын

I used to find I didn't understand the way our teachers explained things - this was New Zealand in the 1970s - but I easily understood the way my father explained how to do the equations - he was taught in England, 1930s/40s. I don't understand the modern ways at all and I not only enjoy maths/arithmetic but am generally fairly good at it - don't like using calculators though - and I can't understand why people now say that the ways they were taught in the UK as kids give different answers to those I get because my dad was educated there and the ways he used and taught me were the same as our teachers used in NZ, but which now appear to be totally different to those taught in the UK. Very confusing and can only guess they changed their teaching methods some time after the 1940s for some reason.

@petermoua4583

10 ай бұрын

i only read like 2 sentences but i’m gonna go ahead and guess you’re a english major also cuz damn that’s an essay.

@ghenulo

10 ай бұрын

When a teacher asked me to explain why something's done in a certain way, my only response was "because you said so". Beyond basic arithmetic, math makes absolutely no sense (and I was never good at word problems, even in basic arithmetic). I majored in Computer Science in college, but I wasn't able to take any programming courses because I couldn't pass Algebra. (Well, I took JavaScript from another college based on a technicality; the professor didn't know why I was in the class since I was already good at JavaScript, but I thought it would be an easy elective; I got in a tiny argument because the textbook said to use document.write() in an XHTML document and brought up that write() is part of the HTML DOM but not the XML DOM so you have to use methods like createElement(), createTextNode(), and appendChild() to properly add new content to an XHTML document (eh, I did it properly regardless of what the textbook and the professor had to say about it)).

Thank you teacher! I'm a frenchman of 71. I never heard about PEMDAS or equivalent in french before you spoke about it! And though my english is far to be perfect, i understood your whole explanations and i'm very glad of this. I have to precise that when i was young, i hated mathematics and the teachers in this discipline. Now i notice that i understand very easily, and in english! So i have to consider nowadays, that i am a little bit smarter than a nut... What a great satisfaction !😊😉

@RS-Amsterdam

10 ай бұрын

12765 .......ahh close, but no sigar

@alfredvikingelegant9156

10 ай бұрын

@@RS-Amsterdam ???

@4EverBanishment

10 ай бұрын

I believe other teachers I forgot where teaching B.O.D.M.A.S rather than P.E.M.D.A.S

@RS-Amsterdam

10 ай бұрын

@@alfredvikingelegant9156 🤪

@hamstermc7807

10 ай бұрын

La première fois que j'ai appris l'ordre des opérations, c'était en français, mais je viens des États-Unis. Mon école primaire avait un programme d'immersion, donc mes cours de mathématiques et de sciences étaient tous en français pendant cinq ou six ans. Quelle coïncidence intéressante ! (pardonnez-moi s’il vous plaît d'utiliser un programme de traduction, mais je fais encore moins confiance à ma grammaire sans lui. Cela fait longtemps que je n'ai pas pratiqué!)

From left to the right. First operations in brackets and point befor line operations. We dont use the cross for multiplikation. We use a single point. Division we dont write the line in between the points.

Really enjoying your content. Your content is cool because I am a school teacher. Your content makes for good conversation with the other school teachers. I learned something new today. Thank you.

@DMAN308

10 ай бұрын

Very simple 21…. Accomplished in under 20 seconds

I have been a machinist and a fabricator and a carpenter in my lifetime and I’ve never run up on one situation where I used any equation like this. I couldn’t figure out in school why they were teaching me this and now I’m 52 and still don’t know why.

@rthompson7282

10 ай бұрын

You might think you have not have used what you learned in math, but you've probably used the logic and problem solving skills you learned without realizing.

@ckwi2245

10 ай бұрын

@@rthompson7282 It's not so much the basic math is of no use. It's that writing a practical problem in this way is something a non-mathematics professional would never do. Effectively as he mentions around 10:25 it's made in a way that is intentionally deceptive. In most practical applications of math, you end up being held accountable for the result of the use of the math, so if something is written in a way that could seemingly done multiple ways and the wrong one is chosen, liability for the outcome becomes a concern. Mathematician's don't have this issue. Like @larrybuckner8619 mentioned, machinist, fabricator, and carpenter, his head or a coworkers head would be on the chopping block should something unfortunate happen due to writing an equation in this way. At best, this use of presentation in math, is a good example of what NOT to do in terms of learning logic and problem solving skills, because it eschews common logic and practical use in favor of requiring rote memorization and convoluted presentation to create a problem in need of solving, neither of which is of any direct practical use.

@bozzhughes6101

10 ай бұрын

the beauty of mathematics and how finite it is in a disorderly society has an appeal. wish i was better at it but i do understand the appeal

@violettownmicroenterprises1528

10 ай бұрын

If you would have done an electrical apprenticeship, you'd understand why...

@the_light_wins1718

10 ай бұрын

Me too . I worked in dentistry and never used it , not in the last 22 years anyway

I’m not especially mathematically inclined except in music theory and composition but took calculus for my mba in finance in 2015. I earned 2 grad degrees in my 50s while working full time as an accountant and part time as an organist and music teacher. I should know all this but have not used it so…but got this correct. Miracles happen.

GREAT LESSON!

Sure wish you were my math teacher back in the day. Now I lament that I can’t do math and my brain cracks. I enjoy your videos. I don’t feel that I am not capable. Thanks.

I am so excited! I got165! YES! I do not remember being taught this loooooong ago! (I remembered it from one of your previous videos, I think!). Thanks!

@wendynine-sc2sv

10 ай бұрын

Got it this time! Yippee!!...❤...

Yep got it correct, BIDMAS was used over and over again in my school, brackets, indices, div, multiplication,add,subtract. Pretty simple after that really

@DosBear

10 ай бұрын

BEDMAS not Bidmas. Brackets exponents division multiplication addition subtraction.

Thank you for the correction because I originally got 21 but at first I was asking the same questions should I divide 20 by 2 or multiple 2-5. After you explained it that’s when I remembered that we’re supposed to move from left to right.

@josh8584

6 ай бұрын

Don’t just memorize a rule, understand that division is really just multiplication by a reciprocal (1/n). You don’t need to go left to right, because it literally doesn’t matter what order you multiply in.

I found maths very challenging at school, but I LOVED this video - got it wrong first time, but I learnt a lot! Great explanation - wish you'd been my maths teacher!

@blacksorrento4719

10 ай бұрын

The teacher you have makes such a difference to your learning skills, some can impart their knowledge and you totally get it. Never too old to learn though. 👍

@mikeb8013

10 ай бұрын

“Maffs” that’s you

@danielbuxton4493

10 ай бұрын

@@mikeb8013 not exactly...I'm an English teacher, and my pronunciation is pedantically clear and precise!

@siggyretburns7523

10 ай бұрын

My sister loved math for the same reason you have. She liked the challenge. In contrast to my philosophy, I woke up every school morning conceding defeat in every aspect under the title "Schoolwork". Lol

@Andrew-it7fb

10 ай бұрын

​@NA-fe4yy both are correct. In the UK they say maths. In the US, we say math.

I was never taught any of this and got 187.5. Thank you for the lesson!

@JWS1313

10 ай бұрын

Yikes we must be on a similar brainwave as I got the same answer as you when I did it before watching the actual video.

@hcox1111

10 ай бұрын

That is what I thought is that correct?

@dolorescritandi3426

10 ай бұрын

Agree with this number

@cssimps

10 ай бұрын

This is the same # I got as well

@MLennholm

10 ай бұрын

@@hcox1111No

It depends how in-depth you want to take it. The actual answer is 1 Look at the question ' what is first? ' of the 3 digit answer 165, the first digit is 1

The problem with PEDMAS or BODMAS or any other pnuemonic used for order of operations, there are times when parenthesis should be utilized to eliminate ambiguity whenever possible since algorithmns will vary given the slight differences in the order of operations computing methods.

I learned BEDMAS back in the day. Brackets, Exponents, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction. 👌

@BigJoethib

10 ай бұрын

that's the method our high school math teacher taught us as well

@dulcinealee3933

10 ай бұрын

Yep that is what I learnt as well . Is maths not a universal language anymore?

@kdizzle901

10 ай бұрын

See I was taught PEMDAS

@waterjade4198

10 ай бұрын

@@kdizzle901 Brackets vs. Parentheses... same thing, just different words. It's like bathroom vs washroom vs water closet vs loo etc. You're really trying to say the same thing, just using different words depending on where you're from. As for the switch of the D and M, they're the same grouping, so it really doesn't matter which order they go in. Maybe in PEMDAS rolled off the tongue more easily for your region...

@waterjade4198

10 ай бұрын

@@dulcinealee3933 Yes math is still a universal language, but English is not. Specifically, words used varies depending on the region you're from. The perfect example is your use of the word maths vs my use of the word math. Same thing, slightly different word based on where we're from.

I've got to review all of this stuff since I have a four year old grandchild that is exceptionally bright and all to soon he will be wanting to learn. In my view this guy is just what the doctored ordered. I don't know that he would agree but I've found that fifty per cent of learning Algebra on up is just learning the formula!

took me a few tries (for some reason I kept forgetting to multiply x3), however keep it to math and not the possibility of someone maybe having surgery...a root canal wont effect your ability to math.

That's interesting. When I was in school in NZ we were taught BEDMAS (Brackets, exponents, division , addition subtraction). Which is slightly different to PEMDAS. But then if MD and AS are equal and you go left to right in that PEMDAS instance it doesn't really matter which you use, I still got the right answer of 165.

Depends where you live. In Australia we use BODMAS (Brackets, Operations, Division/Multiplication, Addition/Subtraction).

@mrkiky

10 ай бұрын

No it definitely doesn't depend on where you live. The rules for solving mathematical operations are universal.

@Dexrazor

10 ай бұрын

@@mrkiky it depends on what you call it, but yes, the rules are all the same.

Before watching the video: 20 / 2 = 10 10 x 5 = 50 5 + 50 = 55 3 x 55 = 165 [edit] And I was correct. I win... something. Probably.

@ujimajame4601

10 ай бұрын

My answer was the same and I followed the same steps (MDAS).

Thanks for sharing this information

I was correct. All thanks to the tutoring my father, a civil engineer, gave me from grade school through college. God I miss him.

*At 66 years old, it's never too late to re-energize one's brain, thank you, professor!* 👍

@violettownmicroenterprises1528

10 ай бұрын

good vintage 😁

@ChasOnErie

10 ай бұрын

You are a kid at 66😀😀

7.5

@cassandraknight8804

10 ай бұрын

I got 750 so your answer makes the most sense to me.

I learned point before line instead of some mnemonic like pemdas. (We use a dot for multiplication and two dots for division) So i never trapped into the mnemonic trap so far

Back when I was a child and dinosaurs ruled the earth, MD meant multiplication AND division, left to right; then AD meant addition AND subtraction, left to right. The answer would be 165.

Here in the UK the pneumonic I was taught many, many decades ago for solving mathematical problems such as these was BODMAS - Brackets, Order, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction. Using it got me to the correct answer here. That pneumonic, along with many others, just stuck in my brain. I’m in my sunset years now and when old age senility kicks in the one thing I can be sure of is that those darn pneumonics will still be there; even if I don’t recognise my wife 😂

@robingruling5560

10 ай бұрын

I can never remember where I parked my car, but I know all the words to the theme song for Gilligan’s Island, so I’ve got that going for me.

@Kernel15

10 ай бұрын

Mnemonic = device to aid in remembering something Pneumonic = something affecting the lungs/related to pneumonia ;)

@Costas_I

10 ай бұрын

@@Kernel15 Ah well. It would appear that my old age senility thing kicked in earlier than I thought 😂

@DavidPaulMorgan

10 ай бұрын

BODMAS for me too! (UK comp '72 - '79). I'm 62 🙂

@Farinhir

10 ай бұрын

The mnemonic I learned was "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally, who wobbles From Left To Right". That is PEDMAS, From Left to Right. Learned this back in the 90s.

Yep. I got 21. I went into denial. Then frustration. Then acceptance. Then I agreed with you. It's 165. LOL 😂

@ChasOnErie

10 ай бұрын

No

I grew up in the generation before you, but somehow my brain remembers the steps! Another right answer for me!

Since multiplication and division have equal weight, I did the 20÷2×5 part from left to right to reduce that to 50. Then I added 5 to the resulting 50 inside the parentheses to reduce that to one term, 55. Then just multiply the 3 on the far left by that. The answer is 165.

@seph.

10 ай бұрын

Clearly does not have equal weight. If they had equal weight, you could multiply first in the "20/2*5", get 2 as a result and you would be right. You would be wrong though.

@nIghtorius

10 ай бұрын

@@seph. Yeah they do have equal weight. But you always solve from left to right. Therefore you do first the division and then the multplication. (20/2*5 => 10*5 => 50)

@seph.

10 ай бұрын

@@nIghtorius shouldn't i be able to solve right to left, if equal weight?

@nIghtorius

10 ай бұрын

@@seph. when equal weight you solve from left to right.

@seph.

10 ай бұрын

@@nIghtorius i want to do right to left though. Equal weight, so shouldn't matter.

Got this one pretty quickly in my head. I'm the one who teaches and or helps out our kids with math and order of operations is so important!

@jacka55six60

10 ай бұрын

5x3 example: 5 apples to make a pie. *Need* to make 3 pies. Seems to me that passing fifth grade math is all you need to get through life after school. *How in real life would the equation in the video be necessary other than to employ math teachers?* I understand that math has rules for a reason but can you give me an example to *NEED* the equation in this video?

@Faithfulfamily

10 ай бұрын

@@jacka55six60 in most of our lives no. Basic grade 5/6 math is mostly enough. In the professional world though, such as engineering I know they are required to do far more complex mathematic than that simple equation. Never mind if one gets into astrophysics or orbital mechanics. So I don't think it's just to employ math teachers no.

If you see the parenthetical part first and then see not a division problem, but a fraction: 20/2, it works out. 3[5 + (20/2) * 5] =. It's a good idea to always think of a division symbol to mean a fraction.

@birifumi

10 ай бұрын

Not a bad idea, but not flexible enough. Let's say we change the question to 3(5 + 20 / 2 X 5 / 10), thinking of it as a fraction might add more confusion like 3(5 + (20/2) x (5/10)) while the correct form would be 3(5 + ((20/2) x 5)/10). It works out but also add some complexity.

@wahyuniantonio2938

10 ай бұрын

Easy calculation straight you get 165 with this nicely bracket in there

Basic computing: from left to right 1) multiplication 2) division 3) addition 4) subtraction. Work inside parentheses first.

@petersearls4443

9 ай бұрын

Multiply and divide have the same precedence as do add and subtract.

This is the first video of yours that I have seen, and I WILL be subscribing just to try and re-learn what I've forgotten from 9th grade Algebra I in 1973. I struggled with math beginning in 4th grade. Our teacher was Asian, his IQ was probably at least 200, the whispers in my class were that he could make a perfect circle on the chalk board, and they were right. His accent, his IQ, and the speed of what he wrote on the blackboard was faster than I could understand, and he didn't repeat things. That was my first year of fractions, and with each year after that, I struggled so hard, and when it was time to sign up for classes in 9th grade (still junior high) for math, there were 2 options. General Math or Algebra I. That was an easy choice for me, General Math. On day 1, I was nervous and happy all at the same time because I felt like it was something that would be easy for me. Sort of like some of my other classes were. My teacher was probably around the age of 60, and very easy to pay attention to. After day 2, he asked me to stay after class, and I was petrified. I went to his desk as the class emptied, and he asked me "why did you sign up for this class"? I hung my head (I was terrified of my own shadow) and told him of my difficulties with math and that I thought I would do better in General Math. He then told me that he also taught the Algebra 1 class, and he was sure that I could do it, and he wanted me to give it a try, and if I couldn't do it, I could go back to the simpler math. Having him tell me that he thought I could do it was something I wasn't very used to hearing, but I went to Algebra I the next day and I stayed in his class, never getting below an A- on anything. I was even raising my hand to answer questions-that was new for me also. That man made me believe in myself more than any other person in my life including my parents. So for High School, I joined my classmates in Algebra II. Totally different teacher, and I fell behind quickly. I barely got through the semester without failing, I dropped it after that first semester, and never took another math class. Little did I know how much math would be part of my life for 18 years of working in Ophthalmology. It was only dealing with positive and negative numbers, but I could rattle those numbers off, I had a great understanding of how crucial my numbers were for the surgeons, and while I never needed Algebra II, I climbed the ladder to the top rung one step at a time, always grateful for that one teacher who believed in me. Sorry for the book, I will sub you now that I've learned something from you. Your voice is calm just like my teacher who I wish I could have thanked for what he did for a farm girl who didn't think she would go far in life, but I did. God bless good teachers everywhere.

And here I am, 48 years old and still made this mistake. I had a hard time with Maths as a child therefore hated it. I learned today what I have some 40 years ago 😂 thanks!

@guravi4295

10 ай бұрын

Find your teachers and tell them: it's ok, you didn't need to know it .

@MasterHigure

10 ай бұрын

One should be careful to judge just from a single comment. But it sounds to me like you had a hard time in math because your teachers spent time drilling pointless and pedantic rules like division versus multiplication, rather than focusing on actual math.

Great teacher. Thanks for your teaching.

since / and x and inside () is first it should be kinda read done like this.. 20/2 = 10, 10 x 5 = 50, 50 + 5 =55 and lastly 55 x 3 = 165

When you express the division operation like a fraction it is much easier to see what should be done first. Placement of the division bar makes it much easier to see different groupings than the elementary school division symbol you used in the original expression. I think when I went to college I rarely if ever saw the elementary school notation. We always used a fraction bar that you could position so as to minimize any ambiguity. Also when my teachers taught PEMDAS, they always made it clear that multiplication was first and addition was second and each were performed LEFT TO RIGHT.

@MrDannyDetail

10 ай бұрын

If it is rendered as vertical fraction, with a horizontal line through the middle between numerator and denominator, which clearly shows the extent of the overall fraction, then yes definitely. But fractions are more likely to be renedered in typed text with a 'front slash' which is no clearer than using the division symbol used here.

@MrLondinium

8 ай бұрын

​@@MrDannyDetailin which case use parentheses to do the grouping that would normally be represented by the positioning of the numerator/denominator. If you were writing this in LaTeX you'd have to use those parentheses anyway.

23 years since I have had to do any Algebra. I was stuck until I got to the PEDMAS part. Had completely forgotten how to do this. It is true if you don't use it, you lose it. I will be digging through these videos as a refresher course.

@user-yl7dt6ye4z

10 ай бұрын

Hahahaha…PEMDAS Paranthesis Exponents Multiplication Division Addition Subtraction

@RainFall-2022

10 ай бұрын

Algebra?

The other correct way is to use the transitive property with the paratheses. So 3(5+20/2*5) = 15+60/6*15 Then finish with the MDAS. 15+10*15 = 15+150 = 165

@drift_ah1518

9 ай бұрын

when applied properly math problems can be solved using different techniques - for me I try to simplify as much as possible so that the problem does not require a lot of calculation 3 ( 5 + 20 / 2 * 5 ) = 3 * 5 (1 + 10) = 15 x 11 = 165

I did get it right. That said, I would still have done the division (a fraction) part first, ahead of any multiplication regardless of where the division appeared within the parentheses.

You can also use the distributive property to convert the equation to 15+60÷6×15 = 165

@FireFoxie1345

10 ай бұрын

It is better and easier to not distribute until the stuff inside is as simplify as it gets.

@genoric4094

10 ай бұрын

@@FireFoxie1345In the case of this problem that just depends on who you ask

@m.a.stough4994

10 ай бұрын

This is the smartest solution for an equation written poorly as the first commenter stated. Using distribution completely eliminates the ‘left to right’ “rule” which none of us were ever taught after being told MD comes before AS.

@w.geoffreyspaulding6588

10 ай бұрын

When did they start PEMDAS? I graduated high school 1965…..never heard of this.

@wwiiinplastic4712

10 ай бұрын

@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 I had it in the 70s, so pretty soon after you got out I guess. A decade later?

Got it right. Was taught order of operations, here in 80s/90s UK, as BODMAS. Brackets, orders, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction. May have been saved as I was taught DM not MD, this was a great refresher!

@bradlys4978

10 ай бұрын

I was always taught in school bit was called BEDMAS? Brackets, Exponents, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction. Now it's all wrong??? Why do rules keep changing.

@coju8543

10 ай бұрын

Lol for me it was GEMS. Grouping, exponents, multiplication/division and subtraction/addition

@HotelPapa100

10 ай бұрын

@@coju8543 In German we say 'point operations before stroke operations'. Division is usually written as a colon, not the stylised fraction, multiplication as a dot, making the kind of operation easily groupable.

@Notir072

10 ай бұрын

And you are wrong ! Division had same priority as multiplication, and so they go from left to right order.

@Joanne494

10 ай бұрын

@@Notir072 yep! and same for subtraction and addition. whichever is first is what you do first. if 5+4-3 you would do 5+4 first if it was 5-6+4 same goes. 5-6 goes first.

Do not remember this but then again I was more interested in reading than arithmetic. It was all Greek to me so I kind of ignored some of it.

I got it which surprised me but good ol' PEMDAS came to the rescue.

Remembering the rules of pemdas and not overthinking it, I came up with 165 in my head in about 20 seconds. I’ve noticed people forget that addition and subtraction are equal, as are multiplication and division.

@josefeijoo7415

10 ай бұрын

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@jayrod9979

10 ай бұрын

Not true. This guy got it wrong!

But to avoid confusion you would always add extra brackets if you are a good communicator.

@Teutonius88

10 ай бұрын

I'm a web developer and I do this all the time to avoid confusion.

@survivalrush

10 ай бұрын

agreed

@toddh2327

10 ай бұрын

But to avoid confusion you would always add extra brackets; if you are a good communicator. :)

@minyaksayur

10 ай бұрын

basically the one who made the question are bad communicator.

@takdraw3394

10 ай бұрын

No, I feel that brackets can only add confusion. The rules of math already dictate the order of operations.

BODMAS Brackets Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction 20/2=10x5=50+5=55x3=165

Easy. In the parathesis, begin with the multiplactor in the order left to right. I found 165 really quick.

You can see in the comments exactly why the International Organisation of Standardisation exists and why specifically ISO-80000-1 exists. It says when writing division on one line with multiplication or division directly after that brackets are *required* to remove ambiguity. Never write 20÷2×5 It is (20÷2)×5 or 20÷(2×5). Those are acceptable. Many are taught M is higher priority than D and some books do use that convention (and I don't just mean for multiplication by juxtaposition specifically) and that leads to the general mistake of 20÷2×5 = 20÷10. Avoid the mistake by writing properly on the first place. Use two line fractions as these are best practice.

@BrianHolmes

10 ай бұрын

It's written as twenty over two times five which equals two. If it were written as twenty over two, times five it would equal fifty. BOMDAS and PEMDAS are tools more than rules. Brackets matter and cannot be arbitrarily added or subtracted without changing the equation.

@violettownmicroenterprises1528

10 ай бұрын

I won't refer to the international standard here, however, a comma in the correct position, makes your comment far less ambiguous.

@stanecauldable

10 ай бұрын

@@violettownmicroenterprises1528 actually there should be two commas. Don't point out an error with another error :)

@GanonTEK

10 ай бұрын

Wouldn't one comma clear it up enough? While 20 over 2 times 5 is ambiguous. Does 20, over 2 times 5 imply 20/(2×5)? although I can see 20, over, 2 times 5 being better for 20/(2×5) 20 over 2, times 5 is pretty clear to be (20/2)×5 though even though you could write 20, over 2, times 5 either. So, maybe one or two commas, depending on the situation?

@Andrew-it7fb

10 ай бұрын

If you actually understand the fact that multiplication and division are the same operation then it makes no sense for one to have priority over the other. The problem is that people try to remember PEMDAS and don't actually understand what they're doing.

Great video. You are correct in that this lesson in breaking down PEMDAS doesn't get discussed enough.

@toddh2327

10 ай бұрын

Please Excuse My Dumb AS

@WblutSundAehre

10 ай бұрын

P-E-MD-AS should die since it neglects juxtaposition and leads to ambiguity. It should be replaced with P-E-J-MD-AS Consider the following simple equation: 6/2(1+2) P-E-MD-AS: 6/2(1+2) => 6/2(3) => 3(3) = 9 Reverse Polish Notation: [6, enter, 2, enter, 1, enter, 2, +, *, /] = 1 P-E-J-MD-AS: 6/2(1+2) => 6/(2+4) => 6/6 = 1

Even is the US, the order of operations, even when using PEMDAS, is not universally taught. Some teachers say multiplication goes before division and addition goes before subtraction without regard to left-to-right. Which is right depends on whom you ask. Confusing.

I got 165 and I calculated it all in my head. At least I remembered something for my younger years.😂

I always used the acroymn called BEDMAS. B for brackets, E for Exponents, then division, multiply, addition and finally division

Canadian who learned order of operations back in the 1970s. My school didn't bother with any mnemonic device at the time, which may have been a good thing. Always clear to me that multiplication and division had equal priorities with each other (as did addition with subtraction). The PEDMAS mnemonic sounds as confusing as it is helpful, which, when you think about that, means it is a HORRIBLE mnemonic.

@TheTicoune

10 ай бұрын

tbf, we learned it as BEDMAS (or BODMAS, depending on terms used) in the 90's and that was a perfect layout of the order of operations. Also, when did PEMDAS become the new norm and who needs to be flogged for messing up something so simple? Or was it keeping in line with the overcomplication/revamp of basic math they did at one point?

@kurtmooreca

10 ай бұрын

Also Canadian, but we were also taught MD in the order they appear, and AS in the order they appear. I don't know if they still teach that way but it was cemented in our heads from grade 6 on (learned in 90s). Also why make such a big deal over P or B? Parentheses are Brackets. It makes no difference. Also if you were taught in the 70s you probably learned with BODMAS Brackets Orders Multiplacation and Division (in the order they appear) Addition and Subtraction in the (order they appear). My mother and father taught me BODMAS when I was 8. By time I was in highschool it had become BEDMAS (as exponents made more functional sense as a term then Orders) ....they learned it in the 70s as BODMAS, so you would have to.

@kurtmooreca

10 ай бұрын

@@TheTicoune Since the internet spread Americana to everyone. BEDMAS is popular in British English Schooling (Canada, New Zealand, Australia, UK), where as PEDMAS is an American spin on it because despite being anglophone they choose to be different. They are the exact same thing. Parentheses = Brackets.

@TheTicoune

10 ай бұрын

@@kurtmooreca PEDMAS would make sense, but its not spelled out that way for whatever reason: PEMDAS is the official way...even though it makes no sense and creates confusion rather than helping it.

@dexrow

10 ай бұрын

@@TheTicoune Why would it make more sense to say division before multiplication? These 2 are equal, you dont do either one specifically before the other.