3 Things You NEED to Know before Buying an F80 M3 with a DCT

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Hey Everyone,
Today, we're going to talk about 3 things you NEED to know, before buying a DCT car (specifically, an F80 M3, F82 M4 or F87 M2 Comp).
1. DCT cars do NOT have a park button, to engage park. To place the car in park, simply turn off the car from drive. If you're in neutral, hit that start stop button twice and it will shut it down properly.
2. DCT Cars do NOT have a torque converter. They use what's called Low Speed Assistant, which is engaged by gently pressing down the accelerator.
3. Be sure to check out Drive Logic, which is a great feature that allows you to change the speed in which the car shifts!
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  • @i-twenny3669
    @i-twenny36694 жыл бұрын

    About to buy an M3 competition and this was extremely useful. Never driven an auto so this was invaluable, many thanks

  • @BenitKibabu
    @BenitKibabu5 жыл бұрын

    The switch is upon us guys, he's dropping hints

  • @ericafrancis806
    @ericafrancis8064 жыл бұрын

    Just bought an F80 and it’s such a learning curve. Super helpful!

  • @goran2009
    @goran20093 жыл бұрын

    Just purchased M6 F06, thanks for the video... It all makes sense now 😀

  • @sydneychaney8725
    @sydneychaney87253 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this tutorial!! First time DST driver; definitely frustrated at the traffic lights until watching this. 2015 M4 vert

  • @telbor3378
    @telbor33787 ай бұрын

    I watched this video a long time ago and I drove my first M4 dct the other day and remembered what you said about the missing park option! Your embarrassment made sure that I did the right thing! Thank you very much sir! And what an awesome driving machine that is!

  • @Kid_Ellipsis
    @Kid_Ellipsis3 жыл бұрын

    Great tips. When coming from a manual to the DCT you may have to fight the urge to lift the throttle between upshifts.

  • @andyhenley1651
    @andyhenley1651 Жыл бұрын

    owned my M4 Comp for 3 weeks now and I hadn't figured out point 2 properly yet! haha. Thank you!!

  • @blendtecbrah5761
    @blendtecbrah57615 жыл бұрын

    A couple other things of note about Drivelogic; the difference in shift speed is really only apparent when you're getting after it. If you're just pootling around in traffic at low speed, it will still shift at a speed that makes sense relative to the throttle input. Secondly, it also dictates what gear it uses when in automatic mode. In D1 mode it may go as high as 5th gear at 30-some mph, whereas D3 will hold 2nd and just barely break into 3rd when you hit 31-32 mph. And uh.... 2nd gear at 30mph and 2500-some rpm (turbos locked and loaded, right on the edge of boost city) is a recipe for disaster if you're not ready for it. Speaking from experience lol

  • @spartacus_tj3140
    @spartacus_tj31402 жыл бұрын

    Very educative,my first time in an M3 competition was blissful.

  • @neeklauw
    @neeklauw5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I had an e88 135 with DCT and it had a park button and creeped like an auto, so a lot of this seems to be programming specific to the F80. Great channel btw!

  • @Rush-zu7qx
    @Rush-zu7qx5 жыл бұрын

    Great vids, Brian! Just recently bought a 2015 M4 and have learned a ton about BMWs in general from you, and now feel way more comfortable with the DCT! Definitely something to get used to. Thanks man, keep it up!

  • @jeremypatino5907

    @jeremypatino5907

    Жыл бұрын

    How is your m4 holding up I just bought a 2015 m4

  • @iPolitely

    @iPolitely

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeremypatino5907just bought a 2017 M4 competition and it’s definitely something to get use to. Still kinda confused on the shifting when I hit the gas

  • @pikkagtr1942
    @pikkagtr19425 жыл бұрын

    Just buy an F80 you wont regret it I didnt :)

  • @terrywilkins2289

    @terrywilkins2289

    4 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more, I have a F83 and it's the best car I've ever owned in 30 years of driving.

  • @Foreskincheesecake

    @Foreskincheesecake

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sure, my brain says yes but my wallet - no...

  • @Motorsports_3

    @Motorsports_3

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought an e92 m3

  • @ruskibruski

    @ruskibruski

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Motorsports_3 best bmw ever with that natural aspirated v8 with hydraulic steering and not electric!!! A true enthusiast car

  • @peteryeung6089

    @peteryeung6089

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Motorsports_3 .

  • @EE-uy3wz
    @EE-uy3wz4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this video I’m about to test drive my first DCT and now I won’t be embarrassed LOL

  • @justinmaary

    @justinmaary

    3 жыл бұрын

    How did it go

  • @themadman697
    @themadman6975 жыл бұрын

    I have been driving an m2 for a year now and you have still thought me something new :D I did not know it went straight to park if you shut car off in drive. I've been stopping in neutral and pressing the start/stop button twice every time.

  • @callumdaniels2672

    @callumdaniels2672

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same!!!

  • @cpl8168

    @cpl8168

    4 жыл бұрын

    Partly because the owner'a manual is confusing on this issue. However, I believe even straight from Drive or Reverse, you're supposed to press the Stop button twice to shut down all accessories. Or at least that's what I've been told. I press the button twice everytime on my M2. Just take your foot off the brake on the second press. lol

  • @gatoraddison
    @gatoraddison3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much. I’m considering a 2018 M4 DCT. This was a big help.

  • @iAngeL7
    @iAngeL73 жыл бұрын

    I love you 😍 you answered all my questions ✅❤️ I was lost 🙈😭 thanks 🙏 🤓 new subscriber

  • @Silentfeety
    @Silentfeety2 жыл бұрын

    Damn, starting from stop was exactly what I was doing, just press the gas like on normal automatic and he would lunch me so fast I hated it. Ty man, I guess life is there to learn something every day

  • @AreaCode865
    @AreaCode8652 ай бұрын

    Just bought an F82 today, wish I’d watched this first. I was perplexed 😂😂 It became intuitive after a bit of mild panic

  • @mikebellows754
    @mikebellows7544 жыл бұрын

    Great vid - definitely learned something. 👍🏻

  • @GaryDownes
    @GaryDownes5 жыл бұрын

    As always, a great and informative video.

  • @navidmahmood876
    @navidmahmood8763 жыл бұрын

    Hey Bryan, great video as always! Learned some new stuff. I had a request: could you do a video on the different types of bmw differentials and maybe even a video on switching a F30 to a LSD?

  • @seanperdue232
    @seanperdue2323 жыл бұрын

    I'll probably never drive, much less own an F80 M3 BMW but I gave a like due to the great information that was provided here.

  • @arnoldyao9636
    @arnoldyao9636 Жыл бұрын

    Haha I wish I saw this video earlier. I got an M4CS two months ago and every time I've accidentally turned the car off in neutral I start the car back up to put it in gear to turn it off LOL. Appreciate you making my life easier.

  • @IamJewz

    @IamJewz

    Жыл бұрын

    Guilty of doing the same with my F87 lol, just learned something new in 2023 🙂

  • @AIDAHAR210
    @AIDAHAR2104 жыл бұрын

    I'm about to get an F80 soon and never driven an automatic car before, and definitly never a dct. So thanks for this video, so I don't have to look clueless

  • @tr3ynag4ta
    @tr3ynag4ta2 жыл бұрын

    I’m actually familiar with the Ms transmission, i think they are very interesting. When I park these cars, I just leave them in neutral, and pull the parking brake. The same with manuals 👍🏿 Can’t wait to get a M4!! I want some track time! Drove both, and they both are special. Especially those engine noises, very unique!

  • @maurosantos7233
    @maurosantos72333 жыл бұрын

    Very clear comments. Many thanks

  • @RaldasDetails
    @RaldasDetails2 жыл бұрын

    Great video man thanks 🙏

  • @stevanussuwintoro4461
    @stevanussuwintoro44615 жыл бұрын

    Cool things to share so I am not embarrassed. Thank you

  • @un4zr3nalhaq88
    @un4zr3nalhaq883 жыл бұрын

    I like this. Very informative

  • @bruceli5088
    @bruceli50882 жыл бұрын

    love this channel COOL must thumbs up

  • @efthimios
    @efthimios2 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t know this very interesting neat videos Brian

  • @mrkatse
    @mrkatse9 ай бұрын

    Awesome video... very easy to follow but also very informative 😁😁 now let me call my Buddy with an M3... 😅😅

  • @andygibbs3524
    @andygibbs35242 жыл бұрын

    Great tips love ya videos 👍

  • @andys5782
    @andys57822 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro totally worth it.

  • @Joe3D
    @Joe3D5 жыл бұрын

    some DCTs also start rolling as soon as you release the foot from the brake, it depends on manufacturer.

  • @kotuha
    @kotuha5 жыл бұрын

    Hi. There is another useful feature of a M DCT. If you're driving in a manual mode and you floor the throttle, the gearbox will not down shift automatically. Instead it waits until you pull the down shift paddle under the steering wheel and then it shifts into the best gear possible (even 3 - 4 gears lower).

  • @juniorfenelon5251
    @juniorfenelon52515 жыл бұрын

    Good video brother.

  • @Reaper3088
    @Reaper30885 жыл бұрын

    great video, in the next video switch your auto to a DCT lol, side note a video on doing a transmission oil change on the automatics

  • @Joe3D
    @Joe3D5 жыл бұрын

    Some DCT brands DO have the Parking selector for the gear lever, like Volkswagen, Audi, and in general the VAG group. Also they use to have the parking brake.

  • @unrealeck
    @unrealeck5 жыл бұрын

    Thought you had an upgrade for a second there. Didn't know about any of these things.

  • @Izzyspeeds
    @Izzyspeeds5 жыл бұрын

    I’m about to rent an f80 for prom thanks for all the tips and help

  • @Arthurbeaslie
    @Arthurbeaslie5 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @JaimeRobledodotcom
    @JaimeRobledodotcom2 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video explaining this, I just got a BMW X5 M I was so lost thank you the info. I do see the auto H what is that?

  • @MartyNguyen611
    @MartyNguyen6115 ай бұрын

    I just now am finding out about the DCT after almost buying an F82 😂😂 seems like a pain in the ass I'm glad I went for the G82 in the end 😂

  • @Al-kz8sv
    @Al-kz8sv3 жыл бұрын

    Cool I didn't know what that button was for haha until now 😅

  • @prosperero
    @prosperero4 жыл бұрын

    This clip got you a subscriber

  • @thejungatron6792
    @thejungatron67925 жыл бұрын

    Bryan, I agree with the comment section. Time to go f80 M3 dct... for the channel of course

  • @HiDeff09
    @HiDeff094 жыл бұрын

    Love this man i need one I live in Corning NY would you be able to help me with any upgrades I'd be interested in doing. I'd drive to you of course. I'm talking turbos etc I can handle basically everything else

  • @wilfredorodriguez2916
    @wilfredorodriguez29163 жыл бұрын

    I just got my f80 lol so now i just have to learn on how to drive it properly at time its jerky

  • @FutureGameLight
    @FutureGameLight5 жыл бұрын

    i did not know the tap feature i will try it on the test drive i have in a few days

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld3 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking about test driving a couple of these soon. I don't want to feel like an idiot 😀

  • @SlowWhip
    @SlowWhip5 жыл бұрын

    It took me a good minute to figure this thing out when I test drove the M4 for the first time. Even the salesman was a little confused 😂😂😂

  • @KiesMotorsports

    @KiesMotorsports

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol, it happens!

  • @marcustegnander2832
    @marcustegnander28323 жыл бұрын

    Alright, thanks! Now I just need an F80

  • @nimo253
    @nimo2532 жыл бұрын

    I have this habbit of throwing it in neutral before shutting my m4 off. So I start /drive gear then power off. Start button 2x. Good to know! Thanks B!

  • @maximusEagle

    @maximusEagle

    3 ай бұрын

    21

  • @Carlife929
    @Carlife9295 жыл бұрын

    Brian, I think it may be time for you to make the switch...

  • @liambrown9964
    @liambrown99642 жыл бұрын

    I did the exact same thing with the looking for P in my F80 on the first drive

  • @carsmotors5094
    @carsmotors50945 жыл бұрын

    The best man

  • @deralien
    @deralien4 жыл бұрын

    Kies Motorsports, when you swapped to the carbon fiber shift surround trim, did you notice the drive logic button being a less tactile and shallow than the stock trim? It's the same button but I found when I switched mine, it was different.

  • @maxyzaroking89salleh71
    @maxyzaroking89salleh714 жыл бұрын

    Hey bro. Could you please make a same video but on the BMW M8 Competition Coupe? Its M gear stick a bit different than your M3 gear stick. I'm waiting for that video. Thanks.

  • @Taurus68
    @Taurus685 жыл бұрын

    Great vid Brian and you said it that you prefer the dual clutch (DCT) over the Manual transmission, however do you feel the same comparing both options on an F80 M3 (Competition package)?

  • @voertsek8404
    @voertsek84042 жыл бұрын

    Champion learnt something

  • @damianbrennan5912
    @damianbrennan5912 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the vid. I just got a F80 not long ago and it got jerky on me a few times when I give it to much gas. Im worried I’m going to brake something from when it happens. Do you know if I am damaging the engine when that happens ? Any pointers on better use of the low speed assistant and how to get on the throttle better would be much appreciated to

  • @supermanhlp
    @supermanhlp5 жыл бұрын

    Been driving an x5m for two years and I've always thought that drive logic button was a broken shade button lmaoooo

  • @Valadcm500
    @Valadcm5002 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @maxnix346
    @maxnix3465 жыл бұрын

    Uh ... in the USA, 2011- 2013 135i & 135is were available with DCT as was the 2011 - 2013 335is, and Gertrude, they do have a Park setting in the shift pattern. These DCT do creep slightly at idle with no brake. E80/82/83 M3, F10 M5 & F12/13 F06 M6 had DCT also. Oh well, at you covered the F80/82/83.

  • @richkoh7305
    @richkoh73052 жыл бұрын

    I want that jacket ! ( already have the car :) )

  • @raidenout1515
    @raidenout15153 жыл бұрын

    Yeah nobody told me when I got my m2 comp . I drove an hour and thirty minutes back to my county and had to figure it out . It definitely made me feel a little silly.

  • @travisricephotograph
    @travisricephotograph4 жыл бұрын

    Do you have to activate low speed assist every time you stop like at a stop light or stop sign??

  • @SNeto67
    @SNeto675 жыл бұрын

    Brian I plan to start changing the oil myself my local automotive store is having a sale on ramps a Jack kit set and a 1/4 and 1/2 inch torque wrench with adjustable settings but they are not electric can I do the job with these items I'm on a budget but if you think that this is alright to start of with please let me know and also can I drain my oil properly if the car is on ramps only on the front.

  • @rajhaldankar4030
    @rajhaldankar40304 жыл бұрын

    Great video as usual. I wanted to pick your brain and see what thoughts you had on buying a used M3. With the 2020 M3 release dates uncertain, what is the best time to buy a F80 generation M3? That's the car I love

  • @goochslayer1639
    @goochslayer16395 жыл бұрын

    Been saving up for a m4 for a bit & sold my n54. I like DCT but im definitely getting a manual 😬

  • @BigBoss-ps6vk

    @BigBoss-ps6vk

    5 жыл бұрын

    goochslayer m4 is designed with dct in mind. It’s the better choice

  • @tofuyo2288

    @tofuyo2288

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BigBoss-ps6vk love my manuals but DCT just seems like the future and look super fun to drive.

  • @dayvid9824
    @dayvid98245 жыл бұрын

    Make the jump, Brian. Us F8x guys are waiting....

  • @tbd3755
    @tbd37554 жыл бұрын

    I have a F06 M6 Gran Coupe, which is a DCT M car by all mean, but it comes with a parking button :p

  • @m4onboard
    @m4onboard2 жыл бұрын

    Mee to mate 😄

  • @tavipirvulescu8694
    @tavipirvulescu86943 жыл бұрын

    Hi, can you tell us, if you are in D1 and you are slowing down...from 50 to 30 let's say...can we put in N in order to accelerate to make noise while running ? and then in D1 back ? Thanks.

  • @rashad3286
    @rashad32865 жыл бұрын

    Hey Brian can you do a video about fxx with meth injection, no good videos out there for fxx models and you would do a great job!

  • @lifeshort
    @lifeshort2 жыл бұрын

    Am I right in thinking you should be off the gas when you downshift? Think I heard somewhere it's kinder to the box?

  • @M5_dave
    @M5_dave5 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes when I'm in D and accelerate with over 50% throttle (but not full kickdown) the transmission will remain in 5th until I slow down enough to engage anti stall protection, at the next junction for example. I usually flip the paddles up to 7th and then back to D. Anyone else had this issue with DCT? Other than that I absolutely love it though.

  • @2fast2nick
    @2fast2nick3 жыл бұрын

    I did the same thing when I rented one.

  • @IRONxMAN1989
    @IRONxMAN1989 Жыл бұрын

    Whatsup with the first gear being jerky? I cant get used to it lmao. Someone on fb posted about a gts gearbox flash fix? You know anything about that?

  • @TheTardis76
    @TheTardis763 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, but DCT transmission do not have torque converters.

  • @S_Paoli
    @S_Paoli Жыл бұрын

    What if I come to a stop but want to keep the engine running? How do I put it in P in that case? Thanks!

  • @shortz9604
    @shortz96045 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2013 335is with dct and the first thing I said with no parking break my car has a button I hit ontopnof the shifter knob itself says P I hit it and puts it in parking is this only for the dct for the M3 isn’t it the 7 speed dct same as the 335is?

  • @cucojaramillo
    @cucojaramillo5 жыл бұрын

    Bryan. The fact that cars fitted with M DCT don’t move forward when you’re standing without hitting the accelerator has nothing to do with not having a torque converter. It’s called the crawling function and it’s how the manufacturer programs the transmission. I’ve had Audi S3 and S4 with dual clutch transmissions and they have the crawling feature so when you let go off the brake the car moves forward. Same with McLaren which they all have dual clutch transmissions. They move forward without you hitting the gas except the LT models which they program them like this to make them resemble more like a manual transmission vehicle.

  • @josephmuhlestein2666

    @josephmuhlestein2666

    5 жыл бұрын

    No it's called Low Speed Assistant. It says it right in the owners manual.

  • @dawnzyy7603
    @dawnzyy7603Ай бұрын

    I know this vid is old, but i got an f80, i have a gearbox problem, and my fuel is going crazy i would spend about £20 (about $25) within 2 hours of driving in sport (not ragging it or flooring every 2 seconds) please lmk why. I also get around 100 miles half tank and 240-250 miles full tank MAX

  • @TriNguyen-co6ju
    @TriNguyen-co6ju5 жыл бұрын

    How did you get the blue cluster?

  • @TickleMePinkGaming
    @TickleMePinkGaming4 жыл бұрын

    does anyone know what the longevity on the transmission is like depending on what setting you keep your transmission in?

  • @mcintosh.motors

    @mcintosh.motors

    Жыл бұрын

    For longevity it’s better to go in the 2nd or 3rd setting after just a bit of temp in the transmission. Reason for this is the clutch packs will last longer when they actually have clamping pressure and it’s not trying to slip and be super smooth

  • @kssmm123
    @kssmm1232 жыл бұрын

    Lol this was me!

  • @godbornplus
    @godbornplus5 жыл бұрын

    Wait can you explain the “Low speed assist?” So I would just tap the gas? Or feather on it?

  • @MCompeticione

    @MCompeticione

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just tap it, it will starting creepin. Tap it some more if necessary like at a stop and go type of traffic situation.

  • @Rd-bi7vr
    @Rd-bi7vr Жыл бұрын

    How do you park the car and keep engine running?

  • @verde629
    @verde6292 жыл бұрын

    Can you park it when it’s in reverse or does it have to be on drive ?

  • @m2fasttransam
    @m2fasttransam Жыл бұрын

    On test drive of my M4 i had to google how to put it in park.

  • @bmwsincekid
    @bmwsincekid5 жыл бұрын

    Wish i could have an M3 F80 🥰

  • @nicolasviray9336
    @nicolasviray93363 жыл бұрын

    hey how come your gages are blue ? did it come like that or u had it done

  • @Ethnmoreno
    @Ethnmoreno4 жыл бұрын

    I say 6speeds are the most fun you can have by far

  • @barmetler
    @barmetler2 жыл бұрын

    Either manual, or dct/pdk. I'm never getting a slushmatic XD

  • @mcintosh.motors
    @mcintosh.motors5 жыл бұрын

    lol when you make the switch i’ll buy the F30 ;)

  • @chrismathews5122
    @chrismathews51225 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a 2018 F80 today and the only thing I knew about the dct was to leave it in gear to park it and the shift speed button.

  • @MCompeticione

    @MCompeticione

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dont forget to set your m1 m2 settings lol

  • @juanduarte8061
    @juanduarte80614 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know where to find the blue cluster overlays in this video?

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