3. Starting the Art (with David Hellman and Frank Cifaldi)

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Braid's lead visual artist David Hellman ( / davidhellman ) is interviewed by Frank Cifaldi of the Video Game History Foundation (gamehistory.org) about getting started on Braid: David's background and artistic process. We start by discussing David's webcomic "A Lesson Is Learned But the Damage Is Irreversible" (www.alessonislearned.com), which inspired Braid in more ways than one.
Braid, Anniversary Edition releases on May 14, 2024. Pre-order it now on Steam (store.steampowered.com/app/49..., or stay tuned to play it via Netflix on mobile devices-maybe the one you're using now!
0:00 - Cold Open
00:37 - Jon Intro
01:47 - David's Discomfort with Success
05:18 - The Webcomic "A Lesson Is Learned..."
10:45 - An Act of Creation
13:42 - Visual Themes
17:58 - Designing the Cloud Cannons
19:49 - Prototype Designs
21:45 - Defining Tim
25:40 - Rabbits
26:35 - The "Messy Process" of Art
31:09 - Personal Games
34:48 - First Impressions of Braid
38:11 - Painting Technique
40:35 - Outro/Credits

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  • @bigrathole
    @bigratholeАй бұрын

    A Lesson Is Learned But the Damage Is Irreversible is one of my favourite webcomics ever made, it captures an era as well as a bunch of other stuff. Beautiful stuff. Also great to hear Cifaldi doing the interview.

  • @Seacle14
    @Seacle14Ай бұрын

    Thank you Jonathan. I'll do my best to enjoy life

  • @james-s-smith
    @james-s-smithАй бұрын

    Jon goes out of his way to avoid talking about the story and meaning of Braid, so hearing David talking about it at length was really surprising to me. Great interview!

  • @rotundbun
    @rotundbunАй бұрын

    Details within details connected to details, all intertwined meaningfully. That sense of artistry really comes through in the game feel. With how artistic & design intent permeates all layers and aspects of the game, it's no wonder that the game feels so cohesive in its identity. The notes about "tonal continuity" and "search for truth of the world" mentioned in this episode are spot-on. So insightful and articulate. Thanks for another great episode.

  • @alexandersemionov5790
    @alexandersemionov5790Ай бұрын

    I see why he was hired. His way of communicating is similar to Johns

  • @nerdError0XF

    @nerdError0XF

    Ай бұрын

    The thing is, i tried to listen to this talk on YT but the start was so messy, so i stopped for a while. But then i played the game and really enjoyed all the commentary David gave! So yea, weird start for the discussion but then i feel like David really opened up

  • @SZvenM
    @SZvenMАй бұрын

    I appreciate your intro and the terminology of " *visual* art ". I have always found it frustrating for only the visuals of a game to be considered (or at least called) "art".

  • @puncherinokripperino2500

    @puncherinokripperino2500

    Ай бұрын

    but the soundtrack....

  • @SZvenM

    @SZvenM

    Ай бұрын

    @@puncherinokripperino2500 Exactly. And everything else a game is made up of, too.

  • @alejmc
    @alejmcАй бұрын

    Woah, pretty cool that at 40:34. If he had done most of the new art in procreate there are some chances that he has the Timelapse’s that procreate records of each document brush history. That would be a sight to see. Else, really cool already, we are also exploring procreate to expand on an art of our next game as one of the artists basically swims like dolphin in water with that app.

  • @jabberw0k812
    @jabberw0k812Ай бұрын

    A Lesson Is Learned is how I found out about Braid when it came out.

  • @ProgrammingLovers
    @ProgrammingLoversАй бұрын

    It's really fun to listen to such conversations

  • @filipe.baptista
    @filipe.baptistaАй бұрын

    Appreciate that intro Jon

  • @gordo6908
    @gordo6908Ай бұрын

    these commentary/interviews have been thoroughly enjoyable and illuminating. i wonder how many are left and if any will feature soulja boy

  • @james-s-smith

    @james-s-smith

    Ай бұрын

    Soulja Boy would have a conflict of interest because he's currently president of Atari

  • @JonathanHamlow
    @JonathanHamlowАй бұрын

    Thank you so much for releasing these. As someone keenly interested in game design but without much technical foundation in it these are accessible but get deep enough to be challenging. Fascinating. The discussion early in the episode about including game design under the definition of Art reminded me of Art History courses in college and talking about how long it took for photography to be included as part of the pantheon of "real" art forms.

  • @Turellio
    @TurellioАй бұрын

    oh wow never connected A Lesson is Learned and Braid art

  • @iamvfx
    @iamvfxАй бұрын

    David Hellman's tweets are a cherry on top

  • @whitecocksmatter

    @whitecocksmatter

    Ай бұрын

    yeah, he is so talented yet a total woke cuck, it's such a shame...

  • @tripplejaz

    @tripplejaz

    Ай бұрын

    yeah, he seems insane. Cherry on top indeed.

  • @TreesPlease42
    @TreesPlease42Ай бұрын

    12:00 sounds like Loop Hero

  • @nngnnadas
    @nngnnadasАй бұрын

    I think the marble thing is also in Spongebob

  • @johnkenneth3602
    @johnkenneth3602Ай бұрын

    I find this quite weird. I'm a regular listener to The Insert Credit podcast. Cifaldi is a regular panelist. And whenever the topic is brought up or they have the opportunity to do so, they discredit and speak badly about Jon Blow and his games. Though Cifaldi is more charitable towards Blow and his games.

  • @metinevrenkurtulus

    @metinevrenkurtulus

    Ай бұрын

    Any examples? What do they say?

  • @SpeedfreakUK

    @SpeedfreakUK

    Ай бұрын

    The insert credit clique are extremely left wing to quite abnormal degrees, I can imagine them being overbearing on a podcast and Cifaldi feeling like he doesn’t want to push back too hard.

  • @htpkey

    @htpkey

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@SpeedfreakUK "extremely left wing to quite abnormal degrees" Does that mean that they SUPER advocate for equality, respect for POC and the LGBT community?

  • @MenkoDany
    @MenkoDanyАй бұрын

    Apparently chat here doesn't know of David's beef with Jon. Okay.

  • @SpeedfreakUK

    @SpeedfreakUK

    Ай бұрын

    Nope, care to elaborate?

  • @MenkoDany

    @MenkoDany

    Ай бұрын

    @@SpeedfreakUK Meh, leave it be. You can find it if you want. It ain't pretty

  • @whitecocksmatter

    @whitecocksmatter

    Ай бұрын

    @@MenkoDany apparently, you should provide the links, you nitwit.

  • @metinevrenkurtulus

    @metinevrenkurtulus

    Ай бұрын

    @@MenkoDany Nothing comes up on the internet

  • @MenkoDany

    @MenkoDany

    Ай бұрын

    @@metinevrenkurtulus Weird, you're right. Can't find anything either. I looked through David's tweets and it looks like they must've settled it since he deleted them, in fact it looks like he either stopped using twitter for a while or just deleted a lot of tweets. Basically David accused Jon of not properly rewarding his work. Something to the tune of "Jon became a millionaire, while I struggle to pay the bills". I think this was in response to something Edmund McMillen said? I don't recall, sorry I'm sure this time around they could find a contract that made both sides happy. We've to assume Braid: AE will make more money than the original, right?

  • @____uncompetative
    @____uncompetativeАй бұрын

    I find it infuriating that XBOX is turning into Microsoft Gaming as the logo has an ugly descender which could be avoided with: Microsoft *Games* Having no g descender and more emphasis placed on the Games given that in past their focus on all on the BOX which sounded like it was dead on arrival by being called the EX-BOX rather like the dead Parrot in the _Monty Python_ sketch being referred to as an "EX-Parrot". Just something I have always thought was a terrible name for a console, and ID@Xbox is an over designed mess that is supposed to be Independent Developers at Xbox, which sounds like a group of professional mourners hired to attend a wake.

  • @arsenbabaev1022
    @arsenbabaev1022Ай бұрын

    first

  • @sv_gravity
    @sv_gravityАй бұрын

    32:33 can not parse who he talks about, anyone ?

  • @Seacle14

    @Seacle14

    Ай бұрын

    Paul Cezanne

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