"is the future of code on the cloud?" my Internet connection: *laughs in kb/s*

@RenderingUser

Жыл бұрын

@CatUpCat oh is see but what about compiling large software with gui? won't you have to download executables all the time?

@danielnielsen24

Жыл бұрын

@@RenderingUser 🤯 yes let's set up a powerful environment and then not use it. That's some big brain stuff

@RenderingUser

Жыл бұрын

@@danielnielsen24 hmm i didnt quite understand that care to elaborate?

@aldi_nh

Жыл бұрын

@@RenderingUser that feels so wrong. Your setup i mean. What kind of setup is that? Downloading executables each compile? Can't you just execute it in cloud? Or just compile it on your own machine instead?

@RenderingUser

Жыл бұрын

@@aldi_nh I'm talking about gui applications those can't be tested through the cloud that's exactly my point those applications are still best compiled on your own machine so I'm just saying that coding on the cloud isn't going to be as great as the guy in the video thinks

“Is the future of code (editing) on the cloud?” I sure hope not.

@tudorradu5848

Жыл бұрын

Why tho?

@cerulity32k

Жыл бұрын

@@tudorradu5848 coding with no internet and usually providers will limit you unless you pay for a plan.

@patrickbueno3279

Жыл бұрын

@@tudorradu5848 countries like mine with pretty shitty internet would really be affected by it.

@tbuk8350

Жыл бұрын

It's actually great for some applications. I installed code-server on my personal server, and it's great being able to hop in a web browser on any device, and just write server code that's instantly there on the server.

@NicolaiWeitkemper

Жыл бұрын

I find it invaluable to have the option to. Jumping into new projects without messing up your computer with dev dependencies.

Writes code Server crashes Can't work for hours Cloud service is amazing!

I personally use Microsoft Word , it is probably the most customizable IDE , you are able to change colors and the font of every line of code !! No problem

@rohanmanchanda5250

Жыл бұрын

Finally, a fellow MS Worder. We gotta stick together brotha!!

@void9886

Жыл бұрын

how do you test it?

@rohanmanchanda5250

Жыл бұрын

@@void9886 testing is for the weak...

@eduarddez4416

Жыл бұрын

@@void9886 yes

@Omena0

Жыл бұрын

@@void9886 copy paste! 👍

Me using neovim: signature look of superiority

@Chronologist89

Жыл бұрын

Vim, syntax highlithing and searching with ag (or similar) is fast even with millions of lines of code (not that you should ever have such a large source file in the first place)

@okie9025

Жыл бұрын

@@Chronologist89 a code editor is the last type of software that needs to optimization lol

@Chronologist89

Жыл бұрын

@@okie9025 Yeah that is what I am saying. Good and powerful tools have been around for 20 years, they just take minimal getting used to (like vim or emacs).

@msx94

7 ай бұрын

Can you suggest me plugins to run neovim as a java IDE?

@ziggymcdougal

7 ай бұрын

@@msx94Java’s one of those languages where its’s honestly better if you are using an ide like IntelliJ. If you really want the VIM experience with Java I recommend getting IntelliJ set up with Vim motions. It’s great this way because you’ll have all the power of IntelliJ but you’ll be able to learn those core home row motions without throwing yourself into the deep end of VIM/NVIM RC. Those VI adjacent editors are honestly at their best if you’re either doing SSH and don’t really have the choice of using a graphical editor, or using Linux. There’s nothing wrong with just having VIM motions set up with your current IDE. I also think NVIM is just really fun to learn especially if you want to be able to really customize and personalize your experience with your editor.

“Is the future of code on the cloud?” Git:

"Fleet... lightweight" My filled to the edges VSCode workspace with 20 sifferent extensions and compilers running takes up 700MB-1GB... Fleet takes up 2.3GB clean...

What I love about vscode is that it’s lightweight using less battery on my laptop unlike IDEs

@blbezcc

5 ай бұрын

I really hope that it's a joke.

I don't think Fleet is meant to be lightweight. I think it just wants to be a all in one solution. Even though its in beta, when I tried it was laggy af.

Doom emacs and neovim all ready are the superior ones

@ioneocla6577

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love spending hours configuring it

@NocturnalWisp

Жыл бұрын

@@ioneocla6577 days*

@franzrr9538

Жыл бұрын

@@ioneocla6577 if you install Doom to emacs is ready to use out of the box. Neovim depends how many things you want to add, you can add packages with Lua and make neovim like a IDE or you can just add the essential in the config file. But the idea of neovim is to keep thinks minimal. So I don't think what you said is accurate at all ☝️😅

@ioneocla6577

Жыл бұрын

@@franzrr9538 tried doom emacs and as a noob, no it's not an OOBE. I tried modifing the main config file and miserably failed because of a syntax error. The shortcuts are very special, the lsp didn't work for some reason, and most the pakaging system is weird. As for neovim welp i'm giving it a try because the config language isn't as weird as elisp and isn't overfilled with useless features

@franzrr9538

Жыл бұрын

@@ioneocla6577 Let me recommend you this kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJhpo6N8oJmtd5M.html This channel is the best for learning things like neovim and emacs. The link that I share to you is a video that show you neovide a gui for neovim that make things more easy for new users, is like an alternative for doom emacs.

Codespaces on Mobile still needs fine tuning 😂 But it's a brilliant concept

@CodingWithLewis

Жыл бұрын

I am excited for that!

@ezzedineoz5452

Жыл бұрын

coding on mobile keyboard?oh no, oh no no

@ghosttheprogram6973

Жыл бұрын

@@ezzedineoz5452 it wasn't the worst thing honestly 😂 Still kinda buggy rn tho

@yt-1337

11 ай бұрын

@@ezzedineoz5452 bluetooth keyboard and tablet/phone should be possible, i even ssh into my raspberry pi from my phone sometimes so coding shouldn't be a problem either

My pc is literally 14 years old (it has my same age lol) and thanks to my github student developer pack I use mainly Rider for C# and Clion for C/C++. They take up to five/ten minutes to load a full project but even if they aren't the fastest solution I manage to use them without problem because they are really well optimized

@markippo

Жыл бұрын

Buy some cheap ssd. Put system and IDEs on it. You'll get huge boost in loading times. Launching an ide or setting up the project are mostly io based operations. Minimal cpu power is needed. I've had the same issue on the windows server. C drive was mounted on HDD and was extremely bloated. Visual Studio was launching up to 10 mins. We switched to ssd, and now VS is ready to go within seconds.

A cloud editor could come in handy for sure but right now nothing is beats having a powerful workstation right on your desk.

I actually use .ppt as code editor. Animations are good also.

Hope to get an update soon with google project idx im that list. Most promesign feature being not needing an apple device anymore to develop for apple.

Am using Fleet! Very nice editor

JetBrains wow did an amazing job...

I gave Fleet a try. It was consuming more than double the memory consumed by IntelliJ.

Honestly,I just use notepad++ over years, because it serves me anything i want.

Zed if it will come to windows and Linux>>>

Jetbrains is known to make heavy awesome pocket-heavy ides

Jetbrains' Fleet🔥

The future of vsc seems to be vsc

vscode or vscodium is still the most convenient solution for me

I want the first one on windows

I feel like you are the type of guy to say “glizzy”

“for mac OS” well that’s never gonna take over a damn thing🤣

Fleet isnt released yet, im waiting few years now. Why did u not mentioned that?

@CodingWithLewis

Жыл бұрын

I shouldve!

What about gitpod?

in my opinion the best are sublime text geany and lite-xl

@SSS-sz8mg

Жыл бұрын

Or emacs

i wish code edit comes to windows as well

None will be able to touch vim

Git will steal every line you code in real-time. Neat.

Might wanna add Google idx to this list

Looking forward to try CodeEdit, tried fleet hated it.

Fleet seemed so promising but trying it out it was sooooo slow. I mean it was (or is?) Beta so of course it's not perfect but compared to vsc it was nothing. Codespaces is basically cloud vsc so I wouldn't see it as competition 😅

which one is more mostly used in the industry for front end development?vscode or webstorm

The crown's always been tmux, vim in the cloud. The crowns will never be taken in a long long time to come.

I code python right through my browser from my phone and i have no issue till now or would they

Will there be a good code editor or ide for ipad pro m1? :) tnx

Yeah after 1 year I can say this video aged like mill

sir can u tell me what is role of binary code in web/andriod development??

>cloud No thanks, not touching it with a 3.05 meter pole

I don't think the future of code is on the cloud. "Heavyweight" IDEs can be run on a potato just fine. Some people complain about the time it takes to launch a larger IDE like Visual Studio for example... if the literal 2 seconds it takes something like Visual Studio to launch will make or break your day you are not really patient enough for a career where you're going to rewrite the exact same method 199 times because the project manager said we needed to change frameworks or libraries again.

What your recommendation?

@CodingWithLewis

Жыл бұрын

I dont really have one :) I use VS Code but thats just preference

@AK-mg5rh

Жыл бұрын

@@CodingWithLewis thank you, thats good for me

@QwertyQwerty-tp1pd

Жыл бұрын

Vim

@efficientgaming4603

Жыл бұрын

Emacs

@bridiro

Жыл бұрын

@@QwertyQwerty-tp1pd heheh the first time I had to alt-f4 to close the editor because I was dumb. Now I just shutdown the pc....

Nothing beats my emacs config (for me)

What about Lapce or Helix?

I like jetbrains intellij and pycharm so this sounds.good

Fleet has port forwarding… they win

For the love of all things please my fellow developers do not fall into this trap. The gaming market is now just waking up to realize they don’t own the games they bought. Remember what we said 8 to 9 years ago when the marketing campaign for the “cloud” started. “The cloud is just somebody else’s computer”

@danielnielsen24

Жыл бұрын

What's your point?

Neovim: am I a joke to you?

@itsmimic007

Жыл бұрын

Hey do you know how to set up pyright server ? I'm using nvim-cmp , but pyright isn't attaching to the buffer.

@RenderingUser

Жыл бұрын

@@itsmimic007 i just straight up installed astrovim its got a really handy interface for downloading lsp try that

@johannbauer2863

Жыл бұрын

@@itsmimic007 oof, mine just worked fine from the start, weird

Lapce is pretty great too (indeed! It's made in Rust)

For mac? Would it ever support other platforms? That’s the only way to get the crown.

Everyone loves the cloud until you leave some process and instances running and get hit with a giant bill

They will need cloud to run so they can't run offline anymore right?

you missed google IDX

Bro How do you find this kind of news?

Actually I wouldn't mind decentralised ompiling...

I would rather have my things on my own computer than someone else's. Thank you.

Good chance code spaces is going to be a subscription service if it uses resources on another machine so I think I'll stick with my free IDE :D

Use ed, the standard UNIX editor.

Dude that's not fleet that's jetbrains gateway what you are talking about, this is not related to fleet but can be used with any jetbrains editor

I will choose Sublime

Is codeedit made by Apple?

neovim is the future

No windows or Linux support?

How much dose the github thing cost

Well rn many ppl who don't have a powerful machine and wanna train heavy ML models use google Collab on cloud.

@explodatedfaces

Жыл бұрын

to be clear; if you are working with very large ML models you need a room full of 40U stacks and your own special electrical grid, not a powerful PC. If you can accomplish it in your lifetime with a threadripper or a xeon platinum then you can accomplish it in your lifetime with a i7-2700k from 2011. "The cloud" is not a good solution to this problem either because it'll cost you more per hour than the entire facility would cost the hosting company.

I think partly yes and partly no, depending on what you're making. Certain applications can't afford the latency and others just don't need the extra power. If it's something computationally intensive but not full-on real time. Kind of like CGI artists working with previews locally but sending the scene off to rendering farms for the final marerial

I use Neovim btw

Since they stopped developing atom.im looking towards zed. F*ck codespaces...how should you code on the Train, or outside?

I like atom, except than I learned it’s a text editor not a ide. I like thonny on the pi I use that if I’m on pi

@DenisovichDev

Жыл бұрын

They discontinued Atom

@b._.render

Жыл бұрын

@@DenisovichDev 😅 Oh shit eh

I like devcontainer more than workspaces.

In all jetbrains IDE, still we don't get the collapsible tree view feature while comparing two folders, it's a shame this basic feature is missing from a paid software. For many years, many requests have been active in YouTrack, but not implemented in jetbrains products. A free program called Meld has this feature. Unbelievable. You people don't know how to implement this feature? Or you don't want us to use it.

@1aboPLZ

Жыл бұрын

Never used comparison of folders 😂

Anything to replace Xcode

The cloud is slower than my pc.

Replit 🔥🔥🔥🔥

nothing is gonna replace vscode unless a new editor brings some game changing technology that vscode doesn't or can't have. it's stable and most developers have gotten used to it and built their ecosystem around it, developers are too lazy to make a huge switch for some stupid small feature that we can get using an extension anyway

what about IDX?

And emacs still will be the best

You forget Google IDX🎉❤

Use VIM

Bruh apple is actually making something Open Source 💀

Ah yes, now even code editing needs to be done in cloud. Soon you'll have to pay monthly subscription for editing lines of your code.

I use VS code

The problem of Codespaces is that the cloud machines are only Linux machines.

Are they all free?

Apple is making an open-source application? That sounds like a first.

Rip atom.

No it isn't, but it also is... The cloud is good for transfers especially using git and other cloud storage. But due to how unreliable internet can be for many people plus even reliable nets can become unstable, many people me include will want to work on the desktop (through stuff like vsc) and just use the cloud as a storage system for accessing anywhere.

on the cloud lies the way to steal your work without your consent

I use gitpod

i used fleet on linux, it's terrible. nothing is currently working, can't even open a file! and 2+ gb of ram and 100% cpu was used within seconds without doing anything.

neovim for life!

vim is still the answer

create your own IDE

The cloud is just someone else’s computer. Keep your stuff safe. Do it locally

Helix!

What about Helix tho 🥺🥺🥺

No word about Zed tho??