Sad to see that the New Routemasters, the 3-door bus of London is about to be retired. This marks the end of three-door buses in the UK, while in Singapore (and other places in Europe) it is flourishing.

@iiBus

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they are. They are repainting them and giving them new seats as we speak.

@dennistrident981

Жыл бұрын

3 door buses aren't as popular in the UK as bus services are less regulated by Parliament so companys don't like using them here as most bus services are commercially ran by the companies themselves which means they have to crackdown on fare evasion more

Absolutely beautiful (if a little wacky) design. The early retiring of these buses would be a crime. If a minor refurb happens I hope it includes ironing out the rattles.

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Since the video has been published, the refurbishment is going ahead, I've included links in the description for further reading.

"Found my coat and grabbed my hat , made the bus in seconds flat. Found my way upstairs and had a smoke , and somebody spoke and I went into a dream".

They could sell them but with a bus solely designed around London its gonna be hard to find a buyer

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, it was never meant to be used outside the capital

@EssexEnviro300

Жыл бұрын

Sell them an Asian country some are like the the uk roads like on our side

@CelareOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@EssexEnviro300 like sydney and wollongong, our busses here suck and they have no double decker BUT they used to have the old routemaster and our buses are squeaky and we have buses from mercedes and volvo and man

@fasttrackblastback8286

Жыл бұрын

Sell them to people to convert

What will they replaced with? It better not be those bendy buses.

@Mgameing123

2 ай бұрын

Bendy buses are not bad. Infact they are much better at handling high passenger loads with minimal journey times and most London roads where the busy routes run can handle bendy buses unlike what BoJo wants you to believe.

Looks quite nice though, no need to refurbish much, maybe just change the seat cushions? It's a waste if they get scrapped.

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. It might be a tfl requirement to refurbish them at a certain time of it's lifespan, not too sure

They’re not going to be withdrawn, they are getting refurbished. However, tfl couldn’t afford the extensive refurbishment they desired instead

@AhmedZ19

Жыл бұрын

And what do you mean by "refurbish?"

@Transport-Coolfunr

Жыл бұрын

@@AhmedZ19 the most important beig the battery change however The interiors are a bit dated and need new seats stuff like that

There are 1000 of them and considering the amount of money spent they made a good decision not to scrap for now so they are being refurbished and one was even electric converted which I think will be the future of these so they can probably serve longer than 14/15 years age limit

Well, I think they can change the engines to be fully electric, instead of scrapping, and for the interior, maybe add kismet seat cushions. Anyways, these buses have the potential to serve London for many years to come 😊

@ChilternTransportProductions

2 жыл бұрын

Did you not read the text in video? It said TfL don’t have the £31 million required to refurbish these buses

@brendannotfound

2 жыл бұрын

I know, but if they were to change their engines, they could collaborate with a another company (TFL pays half, the other pays half), then I think it will be solved, and they won’t be scrapped

@brendannotfound

2 жыл бұрын

If not, Londoners can do a vote on whether to scrap them or let it stay

@Aero__08

Жыл бұрын

@@brendannotfound That would be even more expensive

@Ron_TTE

Жыл бұрын

They are converting some into NRM RVS

Why would they be scrapped? These are modern busses. At other places, there are older ones still in service

@inokajay6623

2 ай бұрын

Yea true

Hopefully one day these buses will be preserveable. buses I hope to get preserved are. LT1 LT2 LT50 LT100 Any Euro 6 LT with the sliding door at the back. And LT1000

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

I suppose that per the culture here, the first and last ones would surely be preserved, especially for such a significant (and controversial!) model

@Transportman211

Жыл бұрын

@@glitchFan2428 yh LT1 and LT2 were new for route 38 and LT2 wears the London Transport livery

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

@@Transportman211 ye I remember seeing LT2 around

@6904LoL

Ай бұрын

Also lt140 cuz it has a sticker in the back

The old RM gave good service for 50 years.

@stearmaster6.756

Жыл бұрын

But that’s because they was built to be maintained by the engineer, these NRMs was built to cut emissions and to look good, hence why I hate working on these buses

@PreservationEnthusiast

Жыл бұрын

Old RM was a totally different design. It was designed to be taken apart and rebuilt like a locomotive every 12 years. Thus it could have a 40 year life easily. The new buses are designed to be used and then scrapped after 12 to 15 years.

I mean if you think about it they started service is 2012 and it's 2024 now so 12 years already.

These vehicles have already been going to be converted to Electric buses. Metroline are already operating them on the 390 route

Sell to SG Or Scrapped

holdup, 0:38 and 7:19 feature different door sliding positions. According to my info, there was a batch 1 in 2012 and a batch 2 in 2016. Which is which?

@jem_suu

2 жыл бұрын

Guessing LT1-LT516 are Batch 1, with the inward door and openable rear part; and LT517-1000 are Batch 2, with the sliding rear door and fixed rear part

@sv386a

2 жыл бұрын

@@jem_suu thankyou

Sad to see that it dont have longer lifespan, if they sell this sg they can be replacement of volvo b8l

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

Would be go ahead carnival vibes all over again!

Nice vid always used to take them on the 15

are those small sliding windows normally kept open..?

They should to stick with them but not use the doors keep as a show on road for just 2 door use

According to many schools, face covering was in British English and face mask was in American English.

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Seems like it. Singapore does refer to it as face mask though

@danwoodhouse9290

Жыл бұрын

great - but what has you comment got to do with London Buses

That alarm sound of the 3rd doors in the bus was 55

I think TFL tried to sell these buses outside London. One went to XELABUS in Southampton but they hated the three door scheme.

Hi Glitchfan 2428, I did some reasearch and this same kind of bus visited Singapore once. Very sad its gonna retire soon.

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it's the same type. I filmed the exact bus that visited Singapore in London during my trip as well.

So much for modernisation. Still loads of rattles and squeaks

FAST GAME 🔥🔥🔥

Of course early withdrawal of these buses typifies Bawbags spending policies. Designed and built as one of his toys.

Fun fact : some of these buses are becoming electric and not diesel

Bring back the old routemaster buses

Maybe just bring back the bendy buses more space than a double decker

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Unpopular opinion but I agree with you! Just cos I like to see them bending around 😅

as a guy that lives in Dublin i think there great looking

@glitchFan2428

11 ай бұрын

Since I made this video they have confirmed that it won't be scrapped yet

Hi! Not to retire, refurbish the fleet

@glitchFan2428

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I updated the description with the subsequent media releases 👍🏻

Wow that's shocking But since u can preserve a bus in the UK then maybe it will be?

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

The significant ones will very likely be preserved regardless

i dont think they'll be going any time soon given that the 248 has just been blessed with then in September and conracts last for about 4/5 years.....

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Yeah subsequently after this video was made I found out they were refurbishing them

Wait what

Sell to Singapore or scrapped in Singapore

@grozaphy

2 жыл бұрын

i dont think LTA would procure these

@TimothyMokCJ

Жыл бұрын

@@grozaphy The model can be procured, but they just bring the elements to Alexander Dennis Enviro500 (3-door bus) for that matter.

Need to refurbish meh… looks ok sia. Running smoothly can liaoz

@membershipofbus

2 жыл бұрын

They did refurbish them

why?????

Aren't they new?

@sbs8131d

2 жыл бұрын

Scrapping them is like buying C801As and then choosing to replace the whole bplrt

@Matt-di6nb

2 жыл бұрын

No the came out years back in 2014 to help improve air quality but since they use their diesel engine nearly 100% of the time its pretty useless. Plus these buses arent owned by Arriva or Tower Transit TLF own them.

@ChilternTransportProductions

2 жыл бұрын

I think the very oldest examples might be 2011 or 2012

Why wouldn't they sell it to Singapore instead?

@BCSBalintCrowStella

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@wclifton968gameplaystutorials

2 жыл бұрын

Probably wouldn't work well in such a warm climate when the air conditioning of these things are so shit and always broken even for the driver

@ichiko_sakura

2 жыл бұрын

@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials ah

@ratedprogram6947

2 жыл бұрын

SG double deck buses normally have 3 axels, they probably wouldn't want to buy the 2 axel buses from London

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

They don't even have air conditioning, only openable windows

Damn I was really excited for them to be scrapped only to now learn of their refurbishment. These buses are awful in so many ways and they need to be rid of! Money spent refurbishing them could be spent better elsewhere by purchasing or leasing better buses!

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Oh well, we don't make the decisions

They were designed to look like the original Routemaster you state. They look nothing like them. They may have been inspired by them and conform to modern standards and laws. The end result is a bus which probably won't last as long, have the same appeal or affection as the originals. Some were glad to see them go, but the RM and it's variations, RML, RCL, RMC etc. along with the RT's, RF's and STL's were testament to the best of british designs.

@glitchFan2428

10 ай бұрын

Gotta love a RF. They are so cute

@ROCKINGMAN

10 ай бұрын

@@glitchFan2428 Yes, I would say that too.

These do my local the 111 they are not very good let’s say but they are lucky it got 111 busier

Arriva Sapphire are in desperate need of new busses, and these would be a great choice.

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Would look very cool in their livery tbh

@QuantumScratcher

Жыл бұрын

but you can't have multi-door buses outside of London, o b v i o u s l y (2-door buses are already a violation of an unspoken rule and 3-door buses would be even worse)

@louiejonesponation

Жыл бұрын

@@QuantumScratcher I actually didn’t know that

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

@@QuantumScratcher what's the basis of this unspoken rule though, I've always been curious

@RWL2012

Жыл бұрын

multi door buses are allowed outside of London, some get converted to one door but it's not required.

They will be scrapped and replaced with BD11’s

@glitchFan2428

25 күн бұрын

That's a shame

@NOTJADIELOFFICIAL

23 күн бұрын

ikr

So they will scrap and replace

1:13 ibus fault?

the drivers of these routemasters are usually mad

@automation7295

9 ай бұрын

The drivers of any bus are usually mad, not just Routemaster. Are you suggesting that only Routemaster bus drivers get mad?

No they won’t be scrapped

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully not, for now at least

Is it really that old? cause it looks like it can be sold to poorer countries instead of being scrapped like some other older buses

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

The oldest ones are from 2012, branded as the new bus for London

i really hope they stay, they’re incredibly iconic

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Yep they are staying, got some information after posting the video that they are being refurbished

@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO

Жыл бұрын

They are about as iconic as a turd.

@Zlervo

Жыл бұрын

@@glitchFan2428 that's good news 👏🏾

first and nice

Yes please! These are by far the worst London busses, they feel cheap, are not space efficient and are extremely ugly.

@glitchFan2428

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately (for you) since this video was posted, refurbishment works on these buses have commenced

@automation7295

9 ай бұрын

*"Yes please! These are by far the worst London busses, they feel cheap, are not space efficient and are extremely ugly"* Disrespectful death wisher!

I am glad that they are getting replaced as they almost took over lots of bus routes, they even operate in zone 6 areas, where they were supposed to operate only in central London areas only, if every buses where new route master London bus fleet would have been boring.

Clickbait headline.

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Rubbish. Where did you hear that? I can’t see anything on line. The buses are safe. They are being refurbished right now. The funding is in place for the refurbishment.

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

Loads of articles online, including the one I linked in the description. If the funding is in place already, I do look forward to seeing what a refurbished unit will look like 👍🏻

@gman1353

2 жыл бұрын

@@glitchFan2428 Hi. A few have been refurbished already. I cant remember what changes have been made other than panel replacement, repaintand the seat cushions have changed with a slightly different maquette that I read about. I haven’t been up to London since before the pandemic so I can’t say what the updated ones are like or how many have been refurbished so far.

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

@@gman1353 I did observe that some of the seat moquettes are different, although me being a visitor from Manchester, I assumed that they had them since new. Style wise they are much nicer than the buses up north 🙂

The buyer could remove the middle and rear door

So it cost twice as much as a standard double decker. So here's an idea, we'll scrap them. Absolute rubbish click bait.😂 These buses are brilliant, at last a new bus built for London. Best bus in London service. All the others are just bog standard off-the-peg low build quality busses used all over the country, made only just suitable for London use by having two door sets. The speed at which the New Routemaster can unload a full passenger load at the terminus is well impressive. Two staircases is brilliant, and a great safety feature in cases of fires and crashes, one blocked and you can use the other. The additional platform door speeds up unloading. All of London's arterial bus routes should have these. A fully electric version should go into production immediately. Stop fobbing Londoners off with buses clearly not built to cope with London service. Khan stopped the ongoing production of these excellent buses because he couldn't stomach it being a Boris Johnson project. These were UK built vehicles. So now we have China building and supplying buses for London. Well done Mayor Khan, give away UK jobs. WTF?

@glitchFan2428

15 күн бұрын

At the time of the video's publication, their future were still very uncertain and there were talks about scrapping them instead of the typical mid life refurbishment. This has now changed and I have attached the article in the description. That being said it truly is sad that the new London bus will potentially be Chinese.

Good, I hope they will be scrapped soon. These things are complete shit. The contraptions are nowhere near as good as the original Routemasters they intended to replicate - those were built to last ages!

@glitchFan2428

2 жыл бұрын

I do prefer the older routemaster

@unknownywuux_bus

2 жыл бұрын

Chiltern the old buses were sh## anyways they deserve to be scrapped.

@ChilternTransportProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@unknownywuux_bus What old buses lol?

@unknownywuux_bus

2 жыл бұрын

Like alx400

@ChilternTransportProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@unknownywuux_bus they were good buses actually. many still survive outside London thankfully

they are very noisy.