Here is an update to this load that I tested today. WOW,Just F ing unbelievable! Used steel #5 & tss #9.hulls, powder, weight, and wad the same. Using mod and light mod out of a Remington Premiun 28g. Was at 40 yards from patterning board. A metal one 3/16 thick. Mod first at lower right. Great pattern! Light mod on uper right. One pellet hit my buddy Jeff in the stomach and another hit me just under the eye. After the initial shock, went up and looked. GREAT pattern also! But what was really impressive is all of the dents in the metal. Not little scratches but Concaved in BIG time. This is one bad ass load, too say the least. Glad I didn't pattern the 20 gauge load first! This duplex is fantastic. You did a great job! Yeah Boy Howdy!!

Very impressive pattern on the 28 gauge. I wouldn't be afraid to shoot anything with that, thinking that I'm under gun with that load. Good job and thanks for sharing.

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

If you're shooting this particular load....your probably over gunning just about everyone around you.

@gregbowers4660

Жыл бұрын

@@bullet225ho LOL! that might be a good thing. 🙂

Always great info, leading edge! Thx!

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave.

Great job 👏 I am just starting to reloading and I love your work. Watching every reloading video out there. Yours is the best. How can I get your reloading information. Ive been thinking about loading for years but the expense verses availability wasn't there. Now I decided with 410 3inch and 28ga 3inch I can reload for less than half price and have available loads. Hunting loads.

Thanks for the video. Been reloading for 10 years and just got into TSS. So far it has been wild to see the patterns. I have a 12ga #9 turkey load and a #8 duck/pheasant load. Was thinking of doing some duplexing myself. So far I’m at 4.50 a round with straight TSS.

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the money pit...LOL Your 9s will work well for ducks and even 10s are great for ducks over decoys. 8s will work for ducks but will take the largest goose at ranges you don't care to talk about. Only reason I say this is you can drastically reduce loading cost with smaller shot and smaller payload....yet keeping pellet count up. Thanks for watching.

@DLXSKIFFMITCHELL

Жыл бұрын

I have a load from Hal that’s 12ga 1oz at 1600fps. Sounds like a hypersonic load. Do you think that’s enough to kill birds? I would think so since your using less than that and having no problem. Thanks for the feedback.

I am getting older. I want to shoot my 28 gauge now. I just need to figure out a duplex load. Thank you for the nice video.

This is exactly what I'm seeing. I shot my 2-3/4" 12 gauge duplex load at 40 yards in a light modified choke and it looked like a damn turkey load. 😆

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

Yep, In larger bore (12, 20) The duplex loads seem to react to chokes normally but tighter. In sub gauge applications I tend to see patterns get blown out or splotchy with anything tighter than I/C. Of course Cyl is what I've gone with on the 28. I'm pulling together some patterns for 410 and I have one in there with a mod choke where you can see the difference.

@young_of_the_mill9560

Жыл бұрын

My 12ga 2-3/4” load I use with a modified choke. I use 1/4oz #9 TSS with 1oz of #3 steel with good results

I would like to see those 410 patterns. You mentioned experimenting with Bismuth. I reload bismuth for 20 ga, and I honestly don’t think that a smaller gauge has the hull capacity to hold a sufficient payload of large enough pellets to be effective past 40 yards, or that it would pattern large enough bismuth pellets at that range well enough to be consistently lethal. But 7/8 oz of #5 bismuth through a tight choke will absolutely do a number on almost anything that flys if you hit the head and neck inside 40 yards. If you do decide to try it, buffer helps immensely.

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

I'm ordering some bismuth here shortly. Will probably go with 5 or 4. From datapoints that I'm looking at it seems your spot on with bismuth payloads and lethality. I'm thinking 28ga is an option.

@geoffbaumann1063

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with the tinkering, you may be able to get a usable 1oz load with the SBE3 and 3” chamber/hull to have the velocity to be effective with #4 bismuth at 45-50 yards. I’m not sure what flyway you’re in or where in that flyway you are, but once the birds start to really get some down and fat on them #5 bismuth isn’t as reliable for body shot penetration as I like, I hate chasing cripples. I look forward to seeing what you come up with for 28ga bismuth patterns.

Awesome thank you for sharing! Would love to see the 410 patterns. I’m using a 5/8oz #9 TSS 3” 410 load with a negative (-.005) comp-n-choke

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

I'll see what I can come up with. That load sounds familiar.....I'd be curious where it came from ;)

@young_of_the_mill9560

Жыл бұрын

@@bullet225ho probably the same place you got your data from 😬

I'm duplexing my 28ga 160gr tss #8 and 260gr #3.5 bismuth and have been smoking ducks and geese . they pattern great 170 pellets =to lead #5 in count but way more energy

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

That's the way to do it brother. Haven't tried duplexing TSS and bismuth...but It sounds like the proof is in your results...good job.

I’m trying to get everything together to start loading my own duplex loads in 28Ga. But I’m unable to find TPS Wads anywhere , I have been able find 28ga. HV Wads and I’ve seen some people saying these will work well. What do you think, will they work?

Would like to see 410 results. I'm from the UK and we have just started to experiment with duplex loads in a 12g 3.5 inch shell 25g tss 24 g Copper plated steel shot size 5 for steel and shot size 4 tss as a goose load , at 40 yards the tss will pass through 8mm plywood the steel just sticks to the surface.. Extend the range to 60yds and the tss almost goes through the 8mm plywood, using half choke at 60yds all the tss is inside 30 inch circle

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

I'll get the 410 results out soon. When you say 25g is that grams? Also, are you referring to 18g/cc TSS or a lesser density? If you are referring to 18g/cc then the number 4 TSS is equivalent ballistically to TT lead shot (5.588mm) number 7 TSS is a stout goose pellet

@manchapkarm3626

Жыл бұрын

I would save your TSS for small gauge and use BB or BBB steel in the 3.5, Ive shot 3.5" for years with this load and small gauges with tss . I now my biggest gauge is the 20g which i use steel or duplex tss/steel , and Bismuth. Re 4 tss that darn stuff is best left for fox or coyote`s why too much money too waste on geese.

I’d like to see the 410 patterns

Thank you !

Which powder and how much in this load?

Do you have any 12ga #7 TSS duplex loads you’d be willing to sell? I’m going to try the current BPI load of the week. I shoot my home made bismuth for ducks and it’s great, but I need something for those specks and snows that won’t commit

Love the video its been very helpful. I have the SBE3 28 gauge and want to try loading this. Are you able to send me the load data for this one? Or show me where it’s been published?

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

my email is in the "about" tab on my page.

@ace54603

Жыл бұрын

@@bullet225ho for some reason I’m not seeing an email on that tab.

Have you tired mixing the TSS and steel 4 shot together and loading the shell mixed. Would it react differently and spread out faster?

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

It actually spreads slower when it's mixed in with steel or on top of the steel.

Where can I find your load data at. I’ve bee duplexing with 1/4oz TSS . Would like to up it to 1/2oz TSS with steel for shooting divers.

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

My data is top secret confidential. Just kidding. I have spent a lot of time developing the loads. I may offer them up for sale at some point in an efile or something. If you get your TSS from Hal he'll get you close.

I shoot mostly wood ducks 15-40 yds. How do you think this would work with #5 steel duplexed with #9 tss in 20 gauge with a shot card rolled?

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

I think it would work great. I'd think about 9.5 or 10s for anything 40 and in. 9s will be good if that's what you already have. Haven't messed with the 20ga that much....but would expect it to open up real good early.

What was the load in this particular Shell, 1oz load or 7/8oz load?

@bullet225ho

11 ай бұрын

1 oz. 1/2 and 1/2 mix. Data is at bullet225ho.com Thanks for watching

Would this work with the bigger steel like 2s on top

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

You could definitely try it. I've not gone bigger than 4. I have used 5 and 6 with similar results. One thing that I don't think you want to get into is large enough steel that you may run into shot bridging in the barrel. I'm not sure how big that would be...I doubt 2 would do that. Load up a few.....shoot them on paper and see how they work for you.

Anyone find his email yet? @bullet225ho have you looked at anything with a 1/4oz or 3/8oz TSS the rear steel shot? 3/4oz up to 1oz loads?? Have you looked at any similar TSS Duplex loads for AA-HS Hulls? Thank you for your time!

@bullet225ho

Жыл бұрын

I have not...I will in the future. Thanks for watching. Email should be in the "about" tab at the top of my channel page