I first got the .270 from my Dad's 1969 Browning BAR. It didn't 'Thump' as hard as the 30'06, so I didn't 'Flinch' due to the heavier recoil... Semper Fidelis

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

The bar being has operated semi auto also helps tame recoil.

@gabemcneil5221

3 жыл бұрын

Got a browning bar in 2020 chambered in .270. Killer up to 200 yards or so , where accuracy falls off for mine

My Dad and all his buddies only used Nosler Partitions for Elk. All calibers! 3006, 7mm, 270, 300WM Rarely did those old timers need more than one shot. 🤠

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

It's a great bullet for sure

Alaska on that 243 Winchester Barnes ttsx 80gr and IMR4064 39.5gr load. As I mentioned, I used the Lee collet neck die. I failed to tell you I did the second ¼ turn size on the brass that Lee mentions in his instructions. The .4 group could be much better I think. As I was shooting from a backpack on a picnic table. Temperatures here are rising towards 90's at times so soon as I get time i will be testing 40gr. IMR4064. There is a lot of argument about neck sizing, but from my experience it makes a difference. I think it helps your velocity stay more consistent while saving your brass some working. Just my own experience, but it is hands on and not just repeating someone else's thoughts. Which as you know is a plague on YT. Great job! Keep'em coming!

Another awesome video and I do love my.270

@AlaskanBallistics

14 күн бұрын

Thank you! While I'm not fond of the .270win, it certainly works well and can take anything in North America. Wouldn't be my first choice for big brown bears, moose and Bison though.

And thats why I love the nosler partitions

@AlaskanBallistics

Ай бұрын

They work well

If you have a bore scope, I would recommend looking down the barrel and see what the shape of the bore is like. It may just need a really good cleaning or could possibly need to fire lap the barrel if you have tool marks left in the barrel. If you think you need to fire lap the barrel, I recommend cleaning the bore really well with a good copper killer and then bore cleaner. Fire lapping works really well on a bore that needs machining marks smoothed out but if the bore has copper in it, the fire lapping may not help that much just from my experience.

Another excellent video. My Remington 700 BDL 270 is sensitive to different factory loads, it functions well with accuracy using the Winchester Super X power points. The 270 is such a good hunting caliber.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'll have to try those in this gun

@Bigfhoot

Жыл бұрын

Yes I’m able to shoot a 1 inch 3 shot group from the super x. Not bad for ammo of the wall

Glass bedding my Tikka really helped with going from 1in down to consistent .3/4 .5 groups. Also my Tikka .270 really responded well with seating depth test get a good consistent velocity charge don't worry about group size load to max mag length then after you have a good consistent velocity powder charge load a bunch of ammo with that charge and more it back 5 thousandths at time untill you see it shrink up your adjusting the harmonics by adjusting the seating depth

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

I'll do that thank you

Love the .270!! Nice one!!👍🍻

Looks like the perfect hunting recipe for steaks on the table. I appreciate the video

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully so.

I just found your channel after i started the fire in my smokehouse. That looks like that awesome SE Alaskan scenery. Pretty awesome content, im currently in the SW on the Kuskokwim. I have some I 140s but never loaded them, pretty impressive results though😁 Ive loaded 150 & 160 bullets for Winchester M70 chambered for .270WCF also my modded Rem700 30'06 w/iron sights I have nothing but great respect for the Partition and these cartridges on big game, but shot placement is key.👍

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Awesome man. I need to come hunt moose with you!

I use IMR 4350 for my 270 with 140 grain Hornady Interlock btsp bullets. 2950 or so. It is a 23.5" barrel.

@gabemcneil5221

3 жыл бұрын

I just shoot hornady American whitetail in my .270 bar

They are my favorite bullet for all calibers

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

It's a good one for sure

In my opinion the Nosler partition is still the perfect medium- large game bullet when used with a medium to large cartridge with sufficient horse power for the job. The focus on new ammo has been weight retention no matter the cost to its ability to stop the animal quickly. I don't agree with this at all. I prefer a bullet that loses 15-30% over the 1st 6-10'' of penetration followed by continued expansion, penetration and a large hole on the far side of the animal. In my experience this is what kills quickly. The Nosler partition bullets in proper loadings excel at this. In my experience using cartridges such as the 270, 7mm-08, 280 Remington, 7mm Rem Mag, 308, 30-06 and 300 Win Mag small - large white tail deer drop much more quickly than bullets that do not shed some weight. I would much rather lose a little more meat than track an animal longer knowing it is suffering that whole time. If we use average deer rifle cartridges with Nosler partition bullets at average ranges of 50-250 yards the penetration I've seen is always 100% Bullets of proper weight with this bullet design have no problem completely penetrating a 100-250lb animal even when raking shots require 20+'' of penetration. Sure bonded bullets and all copper bullets penetrate deeply and this is necessary depending on the cartridge chosen for the game at hand but most often when a proper cartridge is selected a Nosler partition will stop the animal more quickly. In my opinion marginal cartridges is where bonded bullets and all copper bullets really begin to overtake the Nosler partition. When a smaller cartridge such as a 243 is chosen and the shots taken may involve a long raking shot where 20+'' of muscle and bone must be penetrated then we need to retain as much weight as possible and sacrifice some damage to assure the bullet penetrates deep enough to be effective. However, stepping up to a larger cartridge and shooting a Nosler partition still provides a faster kill

@cugir321

2 жыл бұрын

The bullets are great if you don't mind selling your soul to get a box. Nosler is run by greedy child serial killers.

Frankly, the 1" groups that you are getting are plenty good. Not many people can capitalize on beautiful clover Leafs under real World field conditions.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

They were 1.5"

270 hand loading Over the past 30 years I've used 4350 and RL 22 for 130gr Nosler partition and ballistic tip using different primers, and casings to reach the best sub MOA grouping out of my 2 Winchester 22 inch barrel featherweight rifles. Both rifles have been tuned up by gunsmith legions. I ended up with using 60 gr RL22 with Winchester primer and Winchester casing. Across the chronometer at 10 yards I'm getting an average of 3210 FPS. Yes I just noticed the current Nosler loading data is showing 58 gr of RL 22 is max, but my reloading manual from the early 90's showed the max of 60. I am able to use the same casing over and over, and I've never seen any signs of pressure issues. It should be noted that with the 150gr partition I found the CCI bench rest primer, gave me the best MOA grouping and while I have not loaded the new 140 gr I suspect it may be the same.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

That Tikka Hunter is a sweetheart. I've got the same one in WSM.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Nice

Nosler Partition bullets were never known for extreme accuracy however they have dropped more thin skin dangerous game than anything else.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

True

@404nitro

3 жыл бұрын

I have heard that for all my life regarding accuracy, yet that has never been my own experience. IME they shoot as well, or better than any other bullet, and my experience covers a LOT of CF rifle calibers.Maybe early on the partition was not that accurate due to how it was made and the equipment they had at that time to make them, but today........they shoot great and have for the last 40 years at least.

@rg8249

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I've shot a lot of partitions and never got the accuracy I have with other bullets. I disagree on it's killed the most thin skin game though. A majority of thin skinned game killed are deer, and no doubt most have been killed by the Remington Core Lokt then probably the Winchester Powerpoint.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@bobbygetsbanned6049

2 жыл бұрын

@@rg8249 Yeah, I would bet on the Core Lokt having the most deer kills.

You will find the sweet setup

I see you made it back! You gave my wife your card when you were in the Harbor Freight, here in GA... Thought I'd check out your channel... Looks good! She says hi!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

We're in the Seattle airport. Thanks for watching. Tell your wife hi! Godspeed

@MtnBadger

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Ahh... Good flight, it's always the last 50 miles that makes me nervous... lol. Thanks and take care 🙂

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Only the take off and landings make me nervous

@MtnBadger

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Take-off is like starting on a roller-coaster, I'm good with it. As for landing, as long as he's not coming in too sideways or one wing dragging the ground, I'm ok with that, too.... lol Glad you're safe. Send me a grizzly bear 🐻 😉

I haven't bought a Howa yet that couldn't shoot into half inch at 100 yards as well as my Weatherby Vanguards using factory ammunition. My experience using both has proven to me that these rifles require a minimum of 40 rounds to smooth the bore and fill in the imperfections with copper before they settle into tack driving mode. I always keep my rifles thoroughly clean after every trip to the ŕange and that's what it is.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Lol I've not got either that has gone into half an inch consistently at 100 yards

The 160 grain partition over 50.5gr IMR4350 is the most accurate load I’ve ever shot out of my Browning Xbolt in 1:10 twist & 22” barrel. Muzzle velocity averages 2700fps. Groups were averaging 0.5” for my 3-shot groups and shot a couple 5-shot groups, neither were over 0.78”. Very pleased with it, even if it’s not smoking fast.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I bet it was very effective

@johnedwards9741

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics here's hoping, man! It's being used on a (fingers crossed) Canadian moose hunt this September/October. It's the first time I've used anything other than a 110gr TTSX or a 130gr SST (whitetail deer, of course). @Chuke's Outdoor Adventures ...let's see if your claim that a .270 is good medicine on the big dogs holds weight :D

Nice, I have been flirting with the idea of getting a 270 win Tikka, the 140s or 150 partition seems like the bullet to shoot. Supper cool mushroomed bullet in this one. Looks like the ones in the advertisements.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

The barnes lrx does a bit better, but can't go wrong with the partitions. Thanks for watching and Godspeed

I've used the 140 Nosler Partitions with great effectiveness on elk, caribou, and Dall sheep. In all fairness, the 130 Partition might have done just as well, though. I used lung shots on all animals and never lost a cripple. My last elk, a 7x7 was killed at 330 yds with one bullet. But it took 6 shots to get that one-shot kill!!

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on some good hunting. Nosler partitions are awesome bullets.

Great way to break cabin fever

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Darrel

Good Job !

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan

it always surprises me on how slow the 270 always goes without a 24 inch barrel. But even with those velocities its pretty effective on game up to moose here in British Columbia.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

True. I also didn't load out to max

@workct4102

Жыл бұрын

The same as a 25-06...I ordered an accuracy barrel for my .240 WM in 24"....does not perform near as a 26", very accurate and loud.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd imagine any weatherby caliber needing a 26 inch to 28 inch barrel.

@workct4102

Жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics indeed. I should have went for a wildcat 6mm-06

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Maybe so.

Superperformance is an under rated powder for 270, I’m getting 3110 FPS with 130 Barnes TTSX, out of a 22” tikka t3 with 57 grains of powder. Another promising powder is N550.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Nice to know. I might try that one

Love your reviews. I am pushing a 140 grain partition out of my Sako 6.5 x 55 at 2820 with a whole lot less powder. accuracy is about half MOA. I like the 270 a lot but I think I will be looking at a 270 WSM to get some extra speed.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Get the new 6.8 western so you have a good twist rate and speed

@jefferywilliams7687

Ай бұрын

That is an excellent cartridge that is overlooked and under loaded. Won many 300 meter matches.

Do you realize how completely spoiled we are these days when it comes to accuracy?? 35 years ago a 1moa rifle was a big deal, now it's expected even from the cheapest budget rifle.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

True...

@nellinecronje6911

3 жыл бұрын

You know, that's true. My son has a Savage Axis 1 in .223 that has never shot a group bigger than 1.75" at 100 yards, and will shoot CamPro 55gn FMJs into than 1" easy, with an occasional 1/2" group. That rifle cost about 350 Canuck Dollhairs- and it was the only lefty compact rifle I could buy at the time.

@gabemcneil5221

3 жыл бұрын

Even though the kill zone on a whitetail is about 10”, we are obsessed with sub minute groups when most hunters don’t shoot past 100 yards

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

@Gabe McNiel if you follow the channel you know I killed a caribou at 459. My shortest shot on a caribou has been 212 yards

@gabemcneil5221

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I am a long range shooter . I know where you are coming from on trying to squeeze out every drop of accuracy. I love my .270, but I know it’s limits . If I’m shooting consistently at game over 200, I’m gonna build a rifle to do just that with a high BC caliber chambering. Love the info you put out on on .270, my favorite rifle for 200 yards and under . We call em grass patch guns here in the south. I shoot a browning BAR, accuracy isn’t great, but good enough. I’ve got other rifles and calibers for the “long” range stuff. Mostly custom rifles, .35 whelen( 600 yard gun), 6.5 creedmoor ( 1500 yard gun) 300 Norma mag( sky is the limit) I have found an accurate gun will shoot anything well. An ok gun, you gotta work with it to get ok accuracy👍 Again , love the info you put out on .270.

Also have to say the partition is my favorite hi ting bullet a little expensive but in my opinion they're worth it. Ive put a few deer on the ground with that bullet love it

@gabemcneil5221

3 жыл бұрын

Why not accubond or Barnes?? Much better in my option..

@shanerhodes925

3 жыл бұрын

I have tried both and the performance of the tsx wasn't that great I didn't think. And te accubond I can never get it to shoot as good as the partition. It's so so on the accuracy department

Have you ever tried the Swift A-Frames in 140 or 150 grain for the .270? Have heard men say that they are an extremely sturdy built bullet. Thanks! Brian Klamer

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't. Will as soon as I can

Try the Speer Grand Slam or Mag Tip bullets if you can get some. The blunt profile puts the driving band/ shank closer to the lands than pointier bullets. I had a a 7x64 Brenneke years ago that would put everything into 1.5 MOA except those Speer bullets (160gn). Those went into 0.7 MOA. The 7x64 has a very long throat, and getting great accuracy can be a challenge if you want to load to magazine length. I suspect the same thing is happening here. Just to confound the issue, my Tikka Forest .270 shoots cheap and cheerful Federal 130 gn PowerShok into 1.5" groups at 200 yards. I have yet to try handloads in it. Greeting from the other side of the continent.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Will try if I can find them thank you.

The maximum H4831 load is 58 grains, with a 140 grain projectile, and it’s compressed. Supposed to be good for 2,888 ft/sec in a 24” barrel (Hodgdon website). I love the 150 Partition, or the 129 gr. LRX. Never loaded the 140Partition.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

129 lrx is what we're using

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics - I shared my load data on that. But keep it over 2,400 ft/sec with it. With my rifle, I keep it under 325 yards in the boiler room. Shoulder shots up to 350, but you better hit bone.

Very cool video on the old standby for must big game hunters. Mr. Nosler made that bullet after haveing a bad moose hunt had put multiple shot and had bullet break up . Seen some 6.5x284 brass being sold through nosler shooters pro shop . Think I sent the link to you through mewe.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Cool thanks man

@jamespugh

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics no problem. Got look after us fellow hunters and shooters

I think we all owe a debt to John Nosler. He started the quest for better performance, and raised the bar for other companies, leading to a market full of good bullets. A veritable embarassment of riches. Just a thought, but what about 4350? Not sure if Varget or 4064 would be a little too fast. Don't have a burn rate chart handy. And of course there are the newer Enduron powders. I hear good things. I am sure with just a little experimentation you will find a great load with that and other bullets. Keep up the good work.

Hey Chuck, the expansion and weight retention you obtained are very good. One of my experiences with the Nosler reloading book, several years ago has been similar to yours, I tried to get the advertised velocity of a 150 grains 7 mm mag with a maximum book charge of 63 grains of IMR 4350 (supposedly 3243 fps) in a 24 inch barreled Sako that was almost new. The accuracy was phenomenal both with the Partition and the Ballistic tip but the speeds averaged 3055 fps... I've used Nosler bullets extensively and have usually come very close or exceeded their book's speeds. A longer barrel as you mention may make a substantial difference.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Thanks again for watching and the comments. Please share the videos if you don't mind!

@paulhomsy2751

Жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I don't mind at all. Your videos are well organized, intelligently put together and extremely informative.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir. KZread's been killing me this year

@BlueTJay

Жыл бұрын

I have the same, Sako 85 in 7mmRM using 4831sc 24" barrel, but was told that the 26" is normal for 7mm rem mag any manufacturer, but i cant seem to get my own loads to meet Nosler book for velocities. Also, I have been seating 10 th back of Jam. This week will experiment with different seatings. Have a coupel of boxes of Fedral facotry ammo and they give very close velocities to factory expectations. So I am thinking of changin powder from 4831SC to something else, 4350?

I'm ecstatic with a .75" group but I only go to the range maybe 4 times a year.

Good video man.and as far as accuracy pull the barrel action out and bed the action and free float the barrel channel that will help alot if it isn't already

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I'll look into that thanks

I have a Tikka T3 .243 stainless w laminated stock and the groups will open up after 3 shots. But that 1st cold barrell shot goes right where I aim. Hunting coyotes last winter in 10° to 40°f temps I'm 5 for 6 at 400-600 yards and the one I missed was my fault. Under 400yds I havent missed in over 2 years. When sighting it in I shoot 3, pull bolt out and let it cool down completely and repeat, that 1st shot is the most important. She is a cold barrel hunter not a bench rifle that needs a warm up shot. Btw I use Hornady superformance varmint 58g @3924 fps according to the box. Mean little pills!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Good shooting man. Thanks for the advice

@369motoman

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics No problem! It took me a bit to figure out why my groups were opening up with every ammo I tried. Then I realized it was only happening after the barrel was warmed up. And when I had it sighted in hot it would be off when I took it out the next time, it drove me nuts!

I'd love to put those 140gr. Nosler's threw my Sako AV deluxe with a 24" barrel.Win win I'd have the speed and the hitting power.I'm thinking on getting back into reloading maybe.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

That's a nice rifle. Should get just under 3000 fps

I know it's kinda late now... But the best recipe ive tried some RL-26 , Hornady brass and a federal 215 magnum primer... The Remington 700 CDL I have (24" barrel) I've been able to beat 2940 fps consistently with a 150gr partition. 3025 fps with a 140gr Hornady interlock If that doesn't work, I've also had good luck with MAGPRO powder as well.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately RL-26 is unobtainable up here.

Thank you. I4831 has proven to be excellent in 7RemMag over the years.

Partition bullets generally don’t get really fine accuracy.The more complicated a bullets design the more difficult it is to make the centre of gravity perfectly match the centre of the bullet, Concentricity.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Hence why I use Barnes.

First figure out your charge weight. In my experience I load the cartridge to max out oal in clip. Make sure she cycles and at that point start taking your rifles OAL down in .003 for say 5 groups of 3 rounds. The paper will tell you where your sweet spot is. I use this OAL for various grain bullets. That’s looks like the perfect deer cartridge

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

It is. Thank you kindly for the advice.

Yeah, that's a little bit slow. But for some uses not really a problem. I've toyed with the idea of turning a .270 into a 7mm-08 by loading down deliberately. Under timber conditions for deer, a .270 running full throttle isn't as appropriate as several milder rounds in the 7mm-08 category.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

I can agree with that

I would try some 4350 or rl 17 maybe just to see what is going on amd my tikka rifles all of them have liked a good charge of whatever powder I'm using for some reason. In 7mm08. Like 4 or 5 tenths over book max is where mine liked it and in 300 win mag I'm like .3 or something under max book charge so fairly hot loads and the tikka eats it up with a likness

Have you ever done a comparison nosler partition vs swift A-frame?

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

No but i need to

Hey chuck so I don’t know if you remember or not but I commented on this bullet and how I got some 150s for my 270. Well I tested the bullet I don’t have a chronograph so I couldn’t test velocity but my buddy loaded them with 55gr h4831sc. The book said i should’ve gotten 2900 but I think the velocity is more around the neighborhood of 2770 and 2800. Anyway my bullet went through 5 jugs punched a hole in 6th and fell to the ground. I just used that load on a bull moose a few days ago bullet went 3.5 feet into lungs muscle and bone stopped in other side rib. My shot was in an angle behind his right shoulder so bullet travelled towards his neck and stopped in the rib meat. If you ask me that’s great performance on large game. I’m very satisfied with my results

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

I would be too... what kind of bullet?

@leonardmorgan359

Жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics it was the 150 gr nosler partition out of my 270 win.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

Im getting about the same velocity with 150gr accubonds same powder same caliber seemed a bit low for a 270 🤷🏻‍♂️ but accuracy was incredible

We really do expect .270 to be pushing magnum speeds as a matter of its reputation. Is that totally fair or putting it to best use? I know of the deer I've killed with Hornady 140s it was a bit rough on the carcass with quartering shots. I could have used less speed and a bit tougher bullet under those conditions. Maybe those old slow round nose deer loads they once offered did make sense. They were not well received and dropped after a few years reportedly.

I use a 140 grain bullet in front of 59 grains IMR7828ssc in my Howa with 22” barrel and get a little over 2900 fps with under 1/2 groups routinely May give it a try

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Just got some of that powder. Which bullet in particular?

Nosler Partition is America's original premium bullet. All other premium bullets are compared to this in terms of overall performance. Began the search for better . Thank you John Nosler.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Well said sir

@wesbarcus3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics please don't call me sir, makes me feel old.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Well Said

@wesbarcus3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics what can we expect so far as next hunting video? What spring season hunting or fishing?

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Hunting this spring hadn't worked out well. Hopefully fall will be better

Nosler tell me that Partition bullets need to be seated 50-70 th back of jam. How far did you seat yours?

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Not quite that far

So what lakes have you found works best with the Tikka? Did you ever come up with a better load that got you sub Moa?

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

So far Winchester 130gr powerpoints shoot the best. The .270 is on hold for a while because my wife's not hunting for the next few years much

@haneshuntspnw7283

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics do you reload the PowerPoint or just buy the factory ammo? I have the best results with the factory power point 130 grain ammo as well

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Just buy it when I can

John Nosler designed the Partition bullet in 1947 and started selling them to the public in 1948. Not 1951! My Ruger M77 MKII in 270 Winchester with 22 inch barrel loves IMR-4831 with Nosler's 150 grain Partition bullets. IMR-4831 acually loves to be compressed at maximum charge for the best accuracy. I get about 2800 FPS, but velocity doesn't matter to me. Accurate well placed shot is more important.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the correction. I don't know where I read that about the bullet. Totally agree about the well placed shot. Godspeed and good hunting

Maybe try H4350. No longer on youtube unfortunately, but HuntSimple had best luck with that powder in 270. Also load data velocities are done with 24" to 26" barrels, so that is probably why your velocity was slower.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Yep but i expected a little more lol. I've got some to try.

You shouldn’t have any issue getting half inch groups with that gun. You need to try some other powders. Or, try the other 4831. I have best loads with this cartridge at near max charges. You should be able to get between 2900-2950 with a 140 grain partition or accubond.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed thank you

I hadn't thought about the Nosler Partitions in a long time. I'm beginning to wonder how much longer lead is going to be around for anything so I'm starting to pay more attention to solid projectiles. For those, as I've said before, I really like those GMX bullets and ones like that for hunting.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

True

@cugir321

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Nosler is a bunch of satanic liars......the bullets are out there.....they are using them to load factory ammo and sticking it to the reloaders.....don't waste your time working up a load.....you can't get them....maybe one box a year.

Would you take these or bonded bullets. Also try blue box federal 130 also called nontypical now.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

If we could find any... sure I'll stick with barnes LRX

@mr.mr.3301

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I’ve learned a lot about bullets binge watching old videos. How they hold together tells a lot.

I just got some nosler 150 grain bullets and brass for hand loading I should expect at least similar performance if not better. I will note my rifle doesn’t like 150s best groups I get are with 140s but I’m excited to see the results this hunting season

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck!

A lot of your velocity is going to depend on how deep you set the bullet

@BlueTJay

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree... with heavier and longer bullets its easier, but with 130 and 140 in the .270, the bullet does not sit long enough in the case to develop pressures!

If you can ever get a hold of reloading manuals published in the 60’s and 70’s you will see a difference in the max loads published then compared to the reloading manuals published today.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

They were more then?

@larrysayers1377

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Yes, the published max loads were higher than what is published now.

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

@@larrysayers1377 - That was before the lawyers got involved 🤣🤣

I’m getting around 3000fps out of both my 22” .270s. H4831 140gr. You can get more speed. I have heard that tikkas sometimes produce lower speeds. Cant tell ya why. If you are not getting pressure signs up the powder or try a different one.

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

What type chrono are you using? That’s off the charts in my experience using H4831, and a 24” barrel.

@bobd8553

3 жыл бұрын

@@falba1492 Thats straight from the hornady manual, 59.9 gives a velocity of 3000fps. I'm getting 3028 in my savage 22". Where are you getting your data?

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobd8553 - I start off with the Hodgdon site, because they usually have a larger powder load for a specific weight projectile than most loading manuals, and I trust they are safe. Barnes is also very good for max loads, Nosler not so much. So Hodgdon says for H4831 58 gr. max for a 140 gr. projectile, but Barnes has 60.3 on a 140 TSX, 3,018 ft/sec with a 24” barrel. But I typically lose 30 ft/sec on a 22” 270 Win barrel. I’ve not really used the Hornady loading manual, because I mostly use hunting bullets, and I believe there are better options. But their match bullets are excellent. I don’t believe you mentioned what bullet your using, just the weight.

@bobd8553

3 жыл бұрын

@@falba1492 I took a look at the hodgdon webpage, you are correct with the data provided. I'm using a 140 nosler accubond in my savage and 140 sst in winchester pre-64. When there is so much differing information from manufacturer to manufacturer I began analyzing my brass for pressure signs and keeping accuracy. I also use only hunting bullets. I have found the the most reliable book is the Hornady, the nosler is a joke, advertised velocities are way off.

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobd8553 - I think all the books are a bit optimistic, but Nosler is wayyyy off the numbers. Barnes load data is about 30 to 40 ft/sec off in my experience. But I wonder how accurate most people’s chronos are?

If you don't have any pressure signs I would load more powder until you do then back off some. 2750ish is pretty slow for that load.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed was definetly not max.

I was going to try these for my 270 but only could find swift a frame. Which is a bonded partition. I am using imr4350 140gr a frame

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

How's that working?

@tylarhaugan7908

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I don't have my chrono yet. But they shoot 1 moa constantly. 4 grains below max

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@tylarhaugan7908

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics will burn one through deer this year. Testing my barnes 175 lrx in 300 winmag on elk. Oh if you have creedmoor still try 156 norma oryx bonded soft point elk slaying machine through 20 inch gas gun.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

@@tylarhaugan7908 if I can find the bullets sure.

U may want to try h4831sc I'm getting 3010fps avg out of 145gr eldx and 3050 out of 140 interlocks out of my 22in tikka .270

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

I'll try that. Thanks

I used to shoot a 270 AI with 140 Partitions, had to go back to the 130 Speer , the Partitions would explode on Mule deer and White tails. You could stick your head in the hole after traversing the vitals. Too much damage, effective but wow what a mess.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know. How fast were they going?

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

I’d love to know what velocities you got with the 270 AI? What twist rate did it have?

If you ever got the chance to review 300 PRC would you do it? I know it’s another 30 cal magnum but many find it a cool cartridge

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Of course I would

@johnisgoodjohnisgreat5449

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Hell yeah, also a top 5 or 10 or however many you’d be willing to do Smokeless Powder video would be lit, IraqVeteran used to have one like that but it got taken down and I know you’re a pretty avid reloader so that’d be sick af

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just getting back into it. Every powder and rifle is different. I'll have to look into it though

@johnisgoodjohnisgreat5449

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics oh yeah that’s true, I guess you could start with hunting rifle powders idk but I love your channel I’m thinking of doing my own channel since I’m not only big into firearms but also reloading and powders and some of the science that goes behind it all your channel is a big inspiration for what I wanna do since it touches on some of that stuff

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnisgoodjohnisgreat5449 do it man

Nosler,Norma,Swift and Sierra.

I am using 200 gr Patition my 8x57 rifle. Great for pig hunting.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

I bet they're perfect for that

I'm getting 3010fps with Berger 150 VLDs over H4831SC, Fed210M primers, Win brass in my Krgr barreled 270. Barrel is 24"

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@derekmcmurry

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Frankly I was shocked when shooting through the chrono but I verified it through JBM ballistics which was consistent out to 700 yards. My 168 VLDs out of my 7RemMag over Retumbo are going faster

Try Reloader 22. I’m getting 3234 in a 22” Winchester FTW WITH a 130gr. It’s worth a try.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Tried it with the accubond long range and it was 3" groups. But my 6.5x284 Norma and 7mm Rem Mag love it

@mcbridecreek

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Gotta love 4831. Mine has been seasoned 55 years! Haha. Classic!

John Nosler give us one of the best bullets ever, not so accurate but one of dedliest!!

How about a good 270 vs 30.06 series

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

You might have missed this then.... kzread.info/dash/bejne/nauBj9Otgdupn7Q.html

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IMR 4831 has a slower burn rate than IMR 4350. IMR 4831 works beautifully in the medium type magnums (7mm Rem mag, 300 Win mag, .338 Wim mag) with heavier bullets. In a .270, a 24 in. barrel and a 140 gr. bullet, IMR 4350 (I think) will be better. I use IMR 4831 in my .300 win mag using 180 gr. bullets and it's a tack driver at a full 3000 fps. Now, if you had a .270 Win with a 26 in. barrel (yes they exist) and went with a 150 gr. bullet, IMR 4831 would be the cat's pajamas. So would RL-26. You'll need over 60 gr. of RL-26 but it will push a 150 gr. bullet at just over 3000 fps. That's magnum territory from a standard sized cartridge.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice.

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I would put Nosler Partition bullets up against any other bullet for killing power! They are not the most accurate but certainly accurate enough for the end result that they deliver!

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

I like the barnes ttsx and lrx better, but there's nothing wrong with the partition

Maybe the lower velocity kept the bullet together.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

True

Good thing it was able to get groups around an inch, otherwise we would never be able to hit that moose at 200 yds.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Lol true

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Maybe try 4350 or RL17. They are alittle bit faster burning.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I will thanks

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

If the 270 has a long throat, like in the Tikkas, H4831 will give you a tad bit more velocity than H4350, but at the expense of like 10% more powder. But, I’ve always gotten better SD’s with 4831SC. Not experienced with R17, because it’s not temperature stable, and I live in the heat lol.

I'm a crappy shot so at the 40 yards I shoot at, I think that velocity and accuracy are fine.

@AlaskanBallistics

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely for whitetail in a deer stand,

Try h4350, it may improve your group size, what you are getting isn’t bad though,

@AlaskanBallistics

6 ай бұрын

Thank You for the suggestion! I'll try that.

Amazingly enough, none of my Tikkas liked Nosler bullets. So, not sure how much I can help with that!! 🤔

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah mine seems to like cheap winchester powerpoints

@nicholasbarcomb2324

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics , I use Hornady bullets mostly, if I need a tougher bullet, I go to the Woodleigh PPRNs or Hammer bullets.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great choice

That’s 7-08rem performance You really need to be around 57.5 with a 130 gr bullet using imr 4831 , plus it’s very temperature sensitive I would go with H4831

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice

56.8 imr 4831 asome in all 3 of 270 sako @ tika rifles here 140 bergers @ bear claws

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Nice

Chuck If you want tips on making your rifle more accurate or your ammo go check out Kenny’s channel at eagle eye shooting

I absolutely love my Tikka 270.!! I've had great results with 110 grain Hornady vmax. Man you talk about total devastation and fantastic accuracy.Its really worth a try.!!

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

It totally won't even penetrate game up here. A bullet that breaks apart is no good up here.

Perfect mushroom! Speed is nice, but is NOT everything! 4+ jugs of water! I'll take accuracy over speed any day! Perfect mushroom!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed but i do want it to get out there for moose and caribou

When a bullet is spinning, why not just measure its widest point ?

@AlaskanBallistics

3 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

The accuracy issues is because your not in the accuracy node for 140gr pills. Look for 2950 to 3050 velocity. You will find accuracy there. Do a proper load dev. Book maxes have been dropping like crazy over the years. 60+gr of H4895 would be the place to be. Maybe start at 59gr and go right up to 62gr.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the advice

First

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

🤦‍♂️

24 inch barrel a better choice

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Now if they'd just make .270 with a 1 in 8 twist

That's some low velocity. Hunt Simple was getting 3000fps with RL26. Same 22" barrel and 140 NPT & 140 AccuBond.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I'll have to try some when I can find it

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

Hunt Simple stopped using R26 because it was causing primer pocket blow out.

@BornGaming32

3 жыл бұрын

@@falba1492 because he was pushing it too hot. Doesn't mean he couldn't back off and safely get more than 2700s. He was using 60gr @ 3050fps & 59gr @ 3000ish with primer pocket issues. That doesn't mean you can't go down to 57gr or 58gr @ 2900+ safely.

@falba1492

3 жыл бұрын

@@BornGaming32 - Agreed, but 3,000 ft/sec with R26 was unsafe, so it’s a non sequitur. There are other powders that can get you there without the primer pocket issues.

I've had better luck with RL26 and H1000 in my 270 win with Weatherby Vanguard, although it has a 24"

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I'll look into that

skinny bullet--lots of bearing surface. a150 out of a 30-06 is faster than a 150 from a .270. stick with a 130gr Hornady 130 gr sp. your 270 will SHINE!! OH! IMR 4350 OR IMR 4831

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

I've got some of both of those powders

A chronograph has broken many a heart! 😂. Don’t seat the numbers so much.. 100fps plus or minus just doesn’t make that much difference.. hunting rifles…. That Partition at 2750 is a killer…

@AlaskanBallistics

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. Godspeed

Lol come on for hunting that’s perfect you don’t need anything better if it shot over 2 inches then I’d be concerned. Also I find partitions hard to chase accuracy with but I do think you should use a more faster burning powder to get better velocity

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I don't hunt with anything that doesn't do 1 moa. In the field you might not be as good at shooting with all the factors going on.

@leonardmorgan359

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics well one could say yeah. I can’t back myself over internet but I can do well under sub moa groups with my dads weatherby 338 with basic ammo but what I was really trying to say within 300 yards a good inch and a half is bout all a man needs but everyone has their tastes