Thanks for the great review. After watching I purchased a new Mercury 20 at Bass Pro. Keep up the good work.

Excellent review, lots of great points for anyone looking at buying an outboard eg weight, prop pitch, etc.

Congratulations guys on hard work, and hands up 25hp merc 4 stroke

Nice review of the motor. I am very interested to see how it preforms with the smaller pitch prop on it. I think you and the guy with the 20hp motor should get together and run them on the same lake and see which one you like better

Its nice to see the 4 strokes getting lighter, as they are quite a bit heavier than comparable 2 strokes. The 2002 merc 9.9 4 stroke I have weighs 111 lbs and the later merc 9.9 4 strokes weigh 84 lbs.

Sounds like you did very well with buying the motor. I do agree with you. I probably would have done the 20 horse for 60lbs lighter.

I was looking at re-powered my 14' aluminum boat, and I was looking at actually the 15HP EFI Mercury. But after doing some price shopping online, I actually went with a 20HP EFI Suzuki instead for the less money. Local marine dealer sells suzuki, mercury, and yamaha so I'll be able to get parts and service if needed. Looking forward to all the advantages a 4 stroke offers.

I am going to be running the 20merc on my project. The 99lb dry weight was what really sold me! I am with you I don't think the extra cyl + 5hp is worth the added 60lbs.

Not a bad motor it will get better with time . One thing I did about a year ago is look at all the 25 horse and I went with the Yamaha short shaft 25 that weighed 126 pounds with the shifter on the handle like the 20 horse Merc has . I put it on a 16 foot mirrocraft a Laker with the open deck with live well. Mirro craft actually be built this boat with trim tabs that are very narrow but coming off the sheeting from the aluminum on the very back of the boat up on all their models.

Always love your builds, I wouldn't regret that motor at all, its a beauty. When you get it dialed for that boat it won't let you down that's for sure. Are you familiar with Buck Perry? He only used a 12ft aluminum tiller, You got the perfect setup for spoonplugging which involves a lot of trolling. I know people look down on it but his results are ridiculous and he was a genius, if I had that setup that's what I would be doing with no shame haha

Hello love your video, I just pick up a 20 hp Mercury I have manual tilt I not able to get the tilt working. Any help would be great.

I have a very similar boat to yours with a built out deck and everything. it's a deep V and I would say it's similar in size and weight if not pretty much the same. I have the 20 horsepower 4-stroke that you're talking about and it is ample power and speed. I get up to about 25 miles per hour and I do it pretty quickly. Maybe that information will help with your investigation. oh and the last thing I wanted to tell you is that the fuel mileage is incredible on these things. I run that 20 horsepower on a 3 gallon tank and I can literally go all day long before I'm getting near empty.

Thank you 👍

This Incorporated trim tab that are on the mirrocraft Allowed me to put batteries in the back of the boat fuel in the back of the boat cooler is in the back without any problems. allowing it to plan out even better . speeds of 28 miles an hour or so with this set up

think about this - the horsepower is not the biggest thing because with a prop it is basically a fluid coupling much in principal as a tourque converter in an automatic transmission. getting that matched to the boat and tuned in will probably give better performance than the hp factor. trouble seems to be lack of information between boat manufacturers and engine makers to have the data to actually see what would be optimum in ones own personal set up.

Ok this question has nothing to do with this video but here goes . I started out with a simple cast deck in my 14 ft 70 something v bottom then I found your channel and it's all changed from there . So I have aluminum framing to hold the cast deck. I cut out a pic of plywood for the casting deck then laid under it and traced out where my storage compartment door would be and relieved I had space for more lids and compartments LOL . I don't have a shop to do all this in and it rained the other night and my plywood got wet and bubbled up in several places .witch really sucked but at least it happened now and not after I got it carpeted and put in permanently. So yesterday I was looking for someone things and came across some aluminum checkered plating that I forgot I had I think there's enough if I cut it right and braze it together I can make my cast deck from . Is there any reason why I would not want to use it as my casting deck .it's thick I'm not sure as to the exact thickness bit it was supposed to be floorings to begin with .and as heavy as my framing is it should hold a elephant but just wondering if there's a reason why I would not want to use it over wood thanks for any help you can give

I have a 25 horse mercury engine with a rear throttle control but I was looking to alter it to have a stirring wheel. Do you recommend a video or know of a kit to possible help with that?

Got the same one having problems with tilt and trim any tips?

Your 25 efi manual is there a spring connecting the up down leaver to the tilt trim hook ?

how painful was the 20hour break in period?

I got the new 25 Yamaha on my 14ft Lund and love it only 126 pounds

@cfugate3425

5 жыл бұрын

I put one on my 1544 jon and love it as well

so whats your top speed your getting? one or two people? i know its not going to be a speed demon , but curious to know.

I'm just going the through this out there as a little piece of info. All new mercury outboards that are 30hp and under are made by tohatsu in Japan.

@johntapley8527

5 жыл бұрын

So what

Big difference between a 9.5 and 10 pitch. I run the 9.5. The 10 takes awhile to get out of the hole. 15/48 Grizz Sportsman.

I have a Tracker 1448, recently upgraded from a 30 year old 15hp to a 2019 20hp Tohatsu (company that makes the lower HP mercs). Speed diffrence for me was 5-6mph to 20-25mph.

@nasfishing4670

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony V what pitch are you running? Is it the 1448 grizzly? Thank you

Power to weight ratio is an often overlooked and under-considered attribute among boaters. It is a highly important factor for a lot of boats from micro skiffs to flats to bay to center consoles and so on. 20HP at 103lbs vs 25HP at 157lbs is nothing to think about. If you have no outboard and are looking to make your purchase today, of course you get the 20HP. That extra 54lbs is a group 29/31 battery or 9 gallons of gas. On boats this small and light, that is considerable. If you already have the 25HP, well, that is a tougher choice. If I had the 25HP on that boat and was not suffering any ill effects of a heavier outboard and had no issues with the outboard itself, I would stick with it. If I was looking to re-power, its 20HP all the way.

What boat is that

Fuel consumption is 1/3rd less with a 4 stroke, that's what most conversions are seeing. When I switched a 60hp 2 stroke for 60 hp in 4 stroke My boat lost 4 mph top end with everything else being equal. much cleaner, quieter and amazing fuel savings though.

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

2 strokes burn oil and make the lake you like fishing on a toxic dump. That's gotta be a selling point for the 4 strokes.

amigo tenho um barco de 5.5 metros aluminio pesa 130kl qual motor devo comprar de 25 hp 4t ou 20hp 4t

I have a 25hp.4 stroke 1993 and I need to replace my kill switch due to a new FL.law about all outboards must have a kill switch on them including tiller outboards !

Guess wat I don’t know if you know but mec just came back with a lite motor the 25s and 30s are only 131 pounds they just came out yesterday

I have the 30 hp which is the same motor as the 25 just tuned a little different and a buddy has a 25 and I just sold my 20 and the vibes of the 20 is crazy compared to the 3 cylinder it is deff worth it but go with the 30 because the weight is the same as the 25 but better performance

Missed the deal, Suzuki is this nicest for small to large tillers. I get it though if you don’t have dealers close. Nice motor man!

After the break in period, let us know how fast that 25hp will push your boat.

I think you gained in torque with the extra cylinder

5 hp is alot my home lake is a 25 hp limit lake, trust me we all want a 30hp

Good ‘ol sketchy site 6

If you pay attention to what the lady was saying about the HP ratings of the old engines vs new. There is a legitimate difference. Older motors were measured at the crank where as MOST modern outboards are measured at the prop so the power train loss has already been taken into account. Also, 4 strokes simply have a different powerband that really excells in the water, most of the time. Just like comparing a 2 stroke vs 4 stroke dirt bike. They make power differently.... My dad just went from a 78 Johnson 40 to a Yamaha 25 4 stroke and it's actually faster throughout the whole range minus very top end speed, the old Johnson was only about 2-3 faster probably due to slightly higher RPMs or prop pitch

You should have less strain on the 25 vs. the 20. Less strain on the motor = longer life. I would have got the 25 also.

Man your up early

Love my 2011 version of that motor. Got it with electric start for $1400. Pays off to be marrying the daughter of the dealer accountant 😂

I was told that 10ths =1hp. Just a reference. Don’t know if it’s accurate.

If a20hp weighs 60lbs less it's worth it only if your taking on and off. But if it stays on all the time keep the 25hp.

the 20 is a twin cylinder 25 is a 3 cylinder bigger block motor hence the extra weight you might aswell buy the 30 instead of the 25 as its the same motor hence same weight :-)

@jimbo-me2sp

5 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBoatNation than the 20 yes but so is the 25 as its the same motor so you might aswell have an extra 10hp thats 50 percent for your 60 pounds and not 5 !

25% gain in power for 60lbs well worth it

@tystick22

4 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBoatNation going from a 20 to a 25 is a 25% gain (25 - 20)/20 x 100 = (5/20) x 100 = 25%

Should have bought a Evinrude 25 Etec

Mi km like 25 horse Mercury four-stroke will when you run it fast for a while and then you go to slow down it dies and it and you start it and you put it in gear and it dies you do this for about 20 times and then it goes

I have New25 HP ELHPT way to heavy weights 187lbs I will end up selling it don't have boat for it

Sorry to tell you but the state of Michigan has more boat's than any other state in the United states of America. More boat mechanics too

Put a four blade 11P mercury spitfire prop on there and I PROMISE YOU IT WILL BE NIGHT AND DAY PROMISE !!!!!!

I want to correct you on something you said you said that Arizona Have mobile per capital I have new for you Everyone in Florida Almost every family have a boat And we have boat dealer everywhere you drive down the street and you will see a boat and people yards Florida Has water everywhere Everyone fishes in Florida

@chriswillaims2918

5 жыл бұрын

Statistically Arizona ranks 45th out of 50 for most boats per capita in the US. Minnesota ranks 1. (I was guessing Alaska and then looked it up). Just a friendly FYI. BTW I love this channel. Builds are awesome and videos are to the point.

Minnesota is most boats per capita......Arizona is not even in the top 20

I wont pay 4000 for a painted black Tohatsu. I have ran mercury for all my life, I will be buying a Evinrude. Tohatsu cant make a gearcase that holds up to the swamps in Florida.

@sethpurvis8680

4 жыл бұрын

Lex C You may have just had a run of bad luck. I have been impressed with the durability of my tohatsu 20 I have smoked logs and stumps running 25+mph literally dozens of times. the motor tries to jump in the boat with me but I’ve never had an issue. My dad has a 2019 Yamaha on his jon boat and I’ve been very impressed with his motor also

@4to20ma6

4 жыл бұрын

Seth purvis Just saddens me that I can’t own a new mercury anymore. I will go with a Evinrude. At least they are made in America. I will never have a yamaha. They have killed the boating industry in America. They buy up boat companies bleed them dry and shut them down.

@4to20ma6

4 жыл бұрын

Tiny Boat Nation It’s bad because I think they have a great product. I have worked for them before.

The 25 HP 4stroke Merc is 187lbs

@DrewVerdin

3 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBoatNation lol i do have all the extras so that's probably why. Honestly i feel like the motor is underpowered for it's size

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Check it out yamaha is not in the lead no more

He talks too fast and slurs his words.