As you said no great surprise. Hope they manage to prevent contamination ahead of Paris😂

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Throws question marks, whether fair or not, over every Chinese swim in Paris. Which isn't fair on every other swimmer to deal with

My main question is... Why the **** was this drug in a frickin' kitchen? Was it next to the garlic powder and onion salt, and the chef inadvertently added TMZ instead of MSG???

@SquiggyWigginz

2 ай бұрын

It's a big lie cover up by China and Wada.

@kimeli

2 ай бұрын

it was a CIA plant.

@curtismann6851

2 ай бұрын

Aaaaand ……. that’s actually what the Chinese version of the CIA said. It was in a spice jar and the plumbing and most likely planted by someone against china.

@warrenjones5077

2 ай бұрын

Whoops it was accidental, only 23 swimmers and they all ate exactly the same food. Hang on the tooth fairy is at the door.

@franklinchan5129

Ай бұрын

Pork polluted by ractopamine

they simple case of Shayna Jack of Australia, who still got a 2 years ban even though she had claimed “accidental contamination” should have been more than enough for WADA to have turned around and banned the Chinese swimmers from the Olympics at the bare minimum.

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Good comparison

@trn8061

2 ай бұрын

In her case she was genuinely innocent. In the case if the Chinese, they 100% systematically cheated. That's what makes me angry.

@cianhughes22

2 ай бұрын

@@trn8061 innocent or not, as there’s no way to prove innocence, there was still a banned substance in her system, leading to her ban. the worst bit is if the chinese are “innocent”, action should have been taken just the same.

@trn8061

2 ай бұрын

@@cianhughes22 exactly,that is why the while world is upset with WADA

@Phat-rj3jo

2 ай бұрын

@@trn8061lol I doubt in her case she was genuinely innocent. You don’t accidentally ingest anabolic agents used by body builders. With that said there is clearly a double standard here, the Chinese should have been suspended like her.

When a series of organized news on China's "doping" at Tokyo Olympics appear, first thing in my mind is, the Chinese swimmers at Paris Olympics must be very strong and could seriously win the most gold medals.

Morning guys. Not a great day, the news that these chinese swimmers failed a drugs test should have been surprising but for me it was not. What worries me the most is the secrecy and maybe cover up of these failed tests. The news thows into doubt every medal won by chinese swimmers at Tokyo. Why were World Aquatics so quiet about it. Were they afraid that there would be more protests by swimmers like Mack Horton and Duncan Scott? I could go on but it makes me sad for the sport that I love 😠

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Pretty sure the IOC put a statement out last Olympics about not protesting on the podium, so doubtful that would have happened. Duncan's protest was at World Championships from memory. IOC Athletes' Commission (April 2021) "preserve the podium, field of play and official ceremonies from any kind of protests or demonstrations, or any acts perceived as such"

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

But agree, it's just an overwhelming sadness for the sport we love which now has a huge question mark going forwards

@jimbo8655

2 ай бұрын

@@PropulsionSwimming Yes it was at the world's. Personally I was never more proud as a Scot than when Dunc's made his protest. A quick question though, what was trimetazidine (TMZ) doing in a hotel kitchen? Pretty sure it needs to be synthesized in a laboratory. All seems a bit iffy to me.

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

That question is well beyond our knowledge, sorry!

@jimbo8655

2 ай бұрын

@@PropulsionSwimming Doing a bit of a dive into this scandal if we can call it that i just watched a clip from an australian tv show where this was being discussed and it was mentioned that a German TV company are going to airing a documentary on this issue tonight. Apparently they have been working on it for the last 2 years.

Thank you for raising this. This is very sad but does need to be raised

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Not a fun discussion but we aimed to highlight the downsides of affected athletes, rather than slander the names of those leaked to have failed the drugs test before the full information has officially been shared.

Usually a 2 to 4 year ban with no mitigating circumstances, it’s a disgrace the rules have to be applied eventually. 6 gold medals plus any silver and bronze won should be removed.

@JohnSmith-el4rl

2 ай бұрын

No, the evidence is not conclusive enough. By this I mean in a court case they would win because they can argue the fluctuation of testing results concludes nonconclusive testing

Very sad

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

So sad

It's so sad for the Olympians this year, I'd hope it doesn't over shadow their interviews and achievements to come

It was the officials from Chinese Anti-doping Agency who reported the incident to WADA after it's national swimming competition seven months before Tokyo Olympic. The tests were conducted and banned drug found by the chinese agency. It was not an incident found out in international competition by WADA. Can you tell the difference?

Why are we only finding out about this NOW!?..This doesn't bode well for the upcoming Summer Olympics in Paris...Very concerned.

This is exactly why I've been saying remove Sun Yang's 1500m Freestyle WR and strip all his medals. A lot of people say "well he didn't test positive during that time" and my response is: 1. He's still a drug cheat 2. As proven with this situation, positive test results can come up from years ago. How do we not know that he has been cheating his entire career?

@Henry12341

2 ай бұрын

Same with Justin Gatlin , Yohan Blake, Carl Lewis ,Flo Joyner ... their medals should be stripped

Yes, WHY NOW? Good question. Who orchestrate all these twisted stories, and decide when you would hear?

Why it comes out only now?

@vincentxjlee

2 ай бұрын

Because China does not cooperate with US and Europe on Russia-Ukrain war.

@JohnSmith-el4rl

2 ай бұрын

Why did it need to come out when the athletes were not at fault??

@JohnSmith-el4rl

2 ай бұрын

Came out now to smear China before Paris and cause controversy, led the people to believe China is cheating 😢

Mockery of a sport..now WR means contamination of kitchen items.Its spit on swimmers who train 6-8 hrs a day

@Sockwell getting a shout out but yeah very sad indeed

Is it merely a stereotype though at this point. Those 23 should absolutely be disqualified after the fact because they’d objectively benefitted from a banned substance and gained an unfair advantage. Any mitigating circumstances are relevant only in the assessment of proper penalties.

Where there is smoke there is fire. We have entered a new paradigm of unrestricted warfare.

​ @PropulsionSwimming According to the speculative story, this happened 4 years ago, why the story based on incomplete information suddenly broke today?

@curtismann6851

2 ай бұрын

Difference being individual actions versus large scale programmatic doping. Like let’s say 23 in one Olympic cycle. And then possibly multiple other Olympics where the country also had multiple positives ,,,, in one single sport. You don’t think it would be a story if 11 us swimmers tested positive .? I mean cmon. Let’s not be silly. Again this is TWENTY THREE positives at the same time.

@JohnSmith-el4rl

2 ай бұрын

@@curtismann6851first of all there was a fluctuation between pos and neg results, can’t say that all of them are positive. Anyways if they all ate the same food with the containments, they would most likely all get the same result 😮

Chinese trials going on right now!

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Feels like a strategic timing to leak the news

@jimbo8655

2 ай бұрын

@@PropulsionSwimming Seems like a great time for the independent drug testers to take a wee trip to China 🤣🤣

@SquiggyWigginz

2 ай бұрын

@jcrown7 Where all drugs are legal! Even for 11 year old girls.

Have guys heard what WADA has threatened to do, and gave warnings to US, Aussies and GB swim teams and this reason why UKAD has not issued a statement. It would wise to for your channel to report this as the release of various documents could be very embarrassing.

@lucienma4638

2 ай бұрын

Rarely could I read comments from a prudent gentleman. RESPECT!

I can already hear at the next Olympics, the boos that will accompany the Chinese swimmers on the starting blocks and even more for all those who will get on a podium.

@kimeli

2 ай бұрын

then the chinese should just not be part of the olympics.

@LeMaoLeDong

2 ай бұрын

@@kimelisame as the US

Well, I thought they had improved drastically.

76%

Qin didn't participate in the Tokyo Olympics, so he couldn't be one of the 23 individuals. His photo shouldn't be used for the cover. However, I agree that these positive athletes should be banned.

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

You should fact check this

I’m a track and field fan, I saw this on a let’s run forum. Every single Chinese swimmer who wins gold is doped. Same thing for the Russian in backstroke in Tokyo. And yeah Wada probably got bribed, because an international regulatory body that is as badly underpaid as them will take anything.

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Has Russian backstroke in Tokyo been officially confirmed? We didn't think so...

@dubs4966

2 ай бұрын

@@PropulsionSwimming your right it hasn’t, but across every discipline in sport Russia dopes, and just because krylov hasn’t popped for anything doesn’t mean he’s clean. Believe that

@yuldouz

2 ай бұрын

At the same time, especially after the infamous Olympics in Sochi, all Russian athletes were controlled more than any other country's... If Rylov kept winning, it looks like he's clean

@user-vm2ix8pj8j

2 ай бұрын

​@@dubs4966. Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996. Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming. 2 USA. Jeff Rouse. Brad Bridgewater. Tom Dolan. only (3) three Individual Gold medals. 1. RUS. Alexander Popov. Denis Pankratov. only (4) four Individual Gold medals. Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming. Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996 check: USA 🇺🇸 - RUS.🇷🇺. 3 - 4.

@user-vm2ix8pj8j

2 ай бұрын

also, Alexander Popov became the Best Athlete in Men's Swimming at the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta. held in the United States.

You and me are not doping expert to judge. WADA are World leading authority on anti-doping in all kind of sport, and they treat every athlete equally, I respect their professional decision, those cases should not open for discussions, just to give someone the benefits of doubts, otherwise accusation from another competitive nations and online bullying begins, like we are witnessing just now, it does nothing good but harm the sport!

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

I think the harm from the leak and accusations to the sport as a whole is one of the more worrying aspects, and like we said the damage has already been done in a way.

Let's not always blame the chinese swimmers for doping. There are so many more swimmers at the Olympics who abuse PED's and get away with it but we see them as our heroes. I know people who have tried to qualify for the Olympics who confirmed that there are many ways to dope and get away with it. Only because we now know about one nation doping doesn't mean it's the only nation doping. I bet more than 80% of all gold medalists this summer will be doped.

@michaelpaine8884

2 ай бұрын

Please use names. You state this as facts

@richardbarnes4235

2 ай бұрын

WADA cleared them, it just utter hype out fear of getting beat. So when Peaty's 100Br record falls and China wins the gold we can justify it by calling them drug cheats. Pathetic!!

@LeMaoLeDong

2 ай бұрын

Politics has been a part of the Olympics. And of course it’s all about who runs the game. And it’s obvious why it’s only the Russians and Chinese that were called out.

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How did Russia do?

@user-vm2ix8pj8j

2 ай бұрын

The Age of Space for All Mankind - Began according to Moscow Time. according to the Time of the Country with the Capital in Moscow. Gagarin - The First Earthman who Made a Manned Flight into Space. Titov - The First Earthling who Made a Manned Daily Flight into Space. Leonov - The First Earthling who Made the Entrance into the Open Space. The First artificial satellite of the Planet Earth 🌏 - Russian Sputnik 1. The First stable Signal from Space (which Mankind managed to receive) was Sent to Planet Earth - Russian Sputnik 1. Russians are Pioneers in the Sphere of Space.

@user-vm2ix8pj8j

2 ай бұрын

like the Russians, not the USA, not China - it won't work out. since the Russians are Pioneers in the Sphere of Space. and everyone else (USA and China) followed the Russians.

@user-vm2ix8pj8j

2 ай бұрын

like the Russians, not the USA, not China - it won't work out. since the Russians are Pioneers in the Sphere of Space.

WADA cleared Chinese to race. Interesting how we all become better informed than WADA. I remember a body builder friend asking me about Peaty and Proud as they have baby faces for their size, the point being , we are far too easy to accuse.

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Youre wrong to start with. Word for word WADA statement - ‘WADA was notified in June 2021 of the decision by the China Anti-Doping Agency (CHINADA) to accept that the swimmers had tested positive in early 2021 for TMZ after inadvertently being exposed to the substance through contamination’

@richardbarnes4235

2 ай бұрын

​@@PropulsionSwimming perhaps you could maybe add the truth Ultimately, we concluded that there was no concrete basis to challenge the asserted contamination," WADA's senior director of science and medicine Olivier Rabin said. The 30-member Chinese swim team won six medals in Tokyo, including three gold. Many of the athletes still compete for China and are expected to swim at the Paris Olympics this summer.

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

We said this in the video. They accepted contamination was the cause of a positive test. Which means PEDs use had occurred through non fault hence no charges occurring.

@breckr1121

2 ай бұрын

Because WADA has never been bribed before!

@richardbarnes4235

2 ай бұрын

@@PropulsionSwimming we cannot now accuse chinese swim team. Statement is clear WADA finds that them clear to race, so we have to accept it. Let us move on and see what happens in Paris, and please if GB swimmers get beat by Chinese swimmers we accept it and not accuse

Strip the medals and give them to deserved winners

Boycott Olympic

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Clearly never going to happen 😅

This video reminds me of @TheSwimsuitGuy 's video

@PropulsionSwimming

2 ай бұрын

Sonny (@TheSwimsuitGuy) was far braver than us calling out names and we respect him for that. Reacting in the raw emotion of the moment makes a hugely successful video

Duncan Scott has been robbed MULTIPLE times now by Chinese doping athletes.