My favorite talking hand is back!

Just started your beginning reloading series. Thanks for taking the time to make those, so nice to find that much information in one spot

Awesome data Johnny!!! Please keep the videos coming. Cant wait for the series. There's no one else on KZread who delivers reloading data and information to the quality that you do.Thanks.

H335 and CFE 223 along with the Varget. I have never been interested in a fmj bullet however the price makes them attractive when loading for my AR.

Have been waiting for this series, looking forward to the rest. Voting for 335, CFE 223, and AR Comp.

These prices blow me away its tough to imagine being new to this. Feels like this was 50yrs ago. Thanks for the videos uve unknowingly been my reloading mentor.

I really enjoyed this video, makes it easy to see why we buy certain components. I’m a huge Hornady, bobs and Berry’s 55gr FMJBT as well. Thanks Johnny

Just got off work to this. Makes it a good day!

GREAT work. I really enjoy your videos

This channel made me find bobs bullets great great great bullets!

Great video...do more like this in the Future can’t wait for the H335 !!!

Man I'm a new subscriber to your channel,but I sure do enjoy your videos. I also just set up a bolt gun in 223 and I'm. Learning a lot from those videos. Keep it up!!!

I really like this! Can't wait to see more! Thanks

I have probably shot as many Hornady 55 GR FMJBT with Cann as anybody on the planet. I have found 25.0 Grains of Reloder 15 or 25.0 Gns of BL-C (2) @ 2.220" to be as good as it gets. I do love Jason and Steve Hornady for these reasonably priced projectiles.

CFE 223 @ 26.1g I have found the Winchester 1500ct on sale several times at $.09 each and you get a 30cal can with them. FYI

@Oregun

6 жыл бұрын

Ozark Spirit What OAL? Thanks!

@OzarkSpirit

6 жыл бұрын

texpat not sure I understand. The Winchester special I was referring to is for 1500 55grain soft point bullets. They are great for plinkers and small game hunting. Plus you get a 30cal ammo can with them.

@Oregun

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I was asking what was the overall cartridge length with the "CFE 223 @26.1g". Thanks!

@tc300mag1

6 жыл бұрын

Where did you find that deal at ?

@OzarkSpirit

6 жыл бұрын

Rob D watch the sales on midway USA

Glad to see you doing this series! I second the request for you to add the X-treme 55gr FMJ. I thought it was interesting to see how little the velocity dropped for the rounds that were loaded to maximum magazine length -- only 3 fps difference for the Everglades bullet (0.060" length change) and maximum difference of 20 fps for the Hornady bullet (0.050" length change).

@JAM4MORE

6 жыл бұрын

Bill Murray Extreme vs Berrys 55gr. "Corrected Barnes to Berrys"

I like this format for this comparison.

@spoolnaround

3 жыл бұрын

Not a really a fair comparison. Every projectile is going to react a bit differently and should each be worked up individually.

Quickload says IMR3031 and Ar Comp are the two best at magazine length for the 55gr hornady while Ramshot Tac would only be 85.8% burnt out of an 18" barrel. Edit: Ar Comp would probably be the best of the 2 at 99.8% burn, 500psi less at the muzzle, and roughly 103% case fill.

My pet load is CFE223 Hornady 55gr 26.1 powder, .623in at 100 years, my AR really likes CFE223 and if i use Sierra Blitz king 55gr with CFE223 I am getting .493in and believe it or not I am using a $80 barrel from Sanders Armory corp .com, but with factory ammo 3 in groups

I may be a bit biased here, but the cheapest choice for you would be to break out those Corbin dies you were given and make them for a fraction of a cent each. On the flip side of that bias, you have a seriously awesome channel, and I always learn a lot from you.

Looks to be a great series!

My favorite .223 powders : imr8208, RL15, cfe223.... probably in that order, although I have really only used the cfe for “plinking” ammo loaded on a progressive press (meters great) so maybe I didn’t give it enough of a chance

Excellent, as usual. I live in Florida, and had never heard of Everglades. Thanks for the info!

For what it's worth, I did sort 1000 55gr bullets from both RMR and Hornady (FMJ for the RMR, SP for the Hornady). The consistency for the Hornady was extremely good (+/- 0.1gr for the most part). RMR was a bit disappointing: Lower than 55.2gr: 5.8% 55.2gr: 10.5% 55.3gr: 13.3% 55.4gr: 14.2% 55.5gr: 15.4% 55.6gr: 26.8% 55.7gr: 8.2% Greater than 55.7gr: 5.8% Hoping to see you come up with a good load for them! Keep up the great videos

Johnny another great video. Best load for that Hornady I’ve found is 25.5gr of Varget and seating the bullet half way on the cannelure.

Watching these is like watching a hockey game for me. When you get a flyer its like the other team scored and like "AHHHH shit.... ". Especially the RMR since Ive got a bunch of those. And the hornady I have a few ladders loaded waiting for spring.

Great series JRB. Very interesting results with the Bobs bullets. In your previous video with Bobs using 26.0 grains of Varget you shot a .78” group and a .58” group with the same load you shot in this video. I have shot plenty of Bobs bullets with 26 grains of Varget with LC brass and also have had the inconsistencies that you show with Bobs. I have shot many good groups with that load and many that open up with flyers. I read an individuals comment in one of your videos a while back that once he sorted his Bobs bullets with a bullet comparator his groups became consistent, and that there was a noticeable difference after sorting them with a bullet comparator. I have not checked or tried this method yet with the Bobs bullets, but it may be worth a look. I know I have tried to sort them by weight and they were very consistent in the weight department and that didn’t help at all. Would have loved to see the 55 grain Sierra blitzking up here, that bullet shoots great in everything I own. Great series JRB.

Hornady 55gr + H335 + 25.0gr + 16" guns is great. For some reason my off the shelf Troy complete 16" melonite upper shoots like a match rifle with this load. 1/2 MOA or less out to 300 yards.

@saltcreekammo

6 жыл бұрын

CK_32 I've had great accuracy with any 55 grain bullet with 25-25.5 grains H335 @2.230 with a velocity of 3000-3100 FPS

In the Bob’s series you had very good accuracy with IMR3031, I’d keep rolling with that. Or the popular H335 load everyone uses. Also, if you’re keeping score... longer videos. Keep up the great work!!

I use 25.2 gains of Tac with #41 primers @ 2.215” in several different cases. It’s lights out with LC’s in 4 different barrels. I’d like to see Benchmark tested. Keep on trucking JRB, love your channel.

I have good luck with 27,9gr of CFE 223, Federal match AR primers, 2.245 OAL

This is great stuff! I think the Hornady for both would be my pick. It shot three into the same hole and shot the best group on the second. Interesting the RMR has the highest velocity for both groups. Just my interpretation, great video JRB!

I really enjoyed that and I am looking forward to the series. I have had good success with IMR4895 and Hornady bullets. I would like to see that powder if you have any and CFE.223 but I know you have used CFE.223 is other videos. Man, I was really enjoying the Nosler and scared my family when I saw the flyer and shouted out. lol, enjoy your channel.

@joshjohnson1653

6 жыл бұрын

scott atwater CFE223 has to be done!

AR-Comp and TAC would be great.

Really looking forward to this series man. I've shot all of these except the Lapuas with H335, CFE223, TAC, and Reloader 15. I average MOA performance from all of 'em. Hornadys seem to like ball powders out of my 18' Odin barrel. My best groups were with 24.8 grains of H335 at a little over 1/2 MOA (.57").

@richardkoresh5982

4 жыл бұрын

What Barrel are you shooting and what twist

N133 did a pretty damn good job with those 55 sierras a while back.

X-terminator has my vote, always available near me and fairly cheap. Love this idea for the series, Hornady 55gr and 26.1gr of varget is my go to 223 load. I would be interested to see how 5744 works for you too, or any other powders that have a lower case fill.

JRB Great test! I have been thinking of trying different lengths ! Accurate 2520 would be my next powder!

Man, every time I check out a different reloading component you already have a video on it... 😁

@tinncan

4 жыл бұрын

I ended up using the RMR stuff as mass filler in the stock of my 300win mag... Garbage bullet...

How about 2 extremes CFE223 and IMR 4064?

Come on this is a reloading channel..some token reloading video is a must! Lol

great series idea.

BLC-2 Please sir! 25.5 grains behind everglades v2s is my go to load. You rock btw...

Один из дучших каналов по самокруту.

Add 748 to your list of powders to try please. Thanks

H335@25 to 25.2 grains seems to be a good load. Some people go much hotter but this seems to be an accuracy node.

@ewetho

6 жыл бұрын

David Peterson I run 25.1-25.3 based on testing here seems to shoot 1.25 MOA or less no tuning.

@DuckmanH

6 жыл бұрын

25gr in my barrel flattens primers pretty good. I have settled on 24.8 with OAL of 2.26, Lake City brass, Hornady bullets. Half inch 5 shot groups if I don’t screw it up.

@davidpeterson6147

6 жыл бұрын

@DuckmanH, what chamber do you have?

@tinncan

6 жыл бұрын

I would love to see 25gr loads on these bullets... I just bought 1k of hornady fmj and 1k rmr fmj after running out of my minute capable hornady soft points that didn't seat as easily as the boat tail versions on my progressive press... Keep up the good work...

I would like to see some berrys FMJs. It's a very popular plinking round. As far as powders the Imr 3031 would be great to see.

Great video! Question: Will you be coming to the "Great American Outdoor Sports Show" February 3 thru February 11, 2018 at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania?

Great channel. Just a few thoughts. Seems like the shorts were throwing a little wider group. Could be due to the extra jump from ogive to the lands. May be that the closer to the lands you seat the better the accuracy gets. Also the crimp. Any thought whether crimp made a difference? Great vids......keep them coming! God bless America and all those who serve this great nation!

Ive shot thousands of the Hornady 55 gr fmj. Its a great bullet for the price

One question one comment: In the short groups, was the first shot in the Hornady group a cold-bore shot? If so my opinion is that the Hornady group may have been short-changed. The four remaining shots grouped nice and tight. Cold bore shots in my AR generally result in being about an inch or so off of the grouping. As for my comment I think many people are using h335 for their 55 grain FMJ, however given that IMR 3031 did so well in the previous 55 grain test I would like to see it across the board with these. Great videos thank you for posting.

Just for comparison, would it be to much trouble to test a few M193 loads along side your developed loads...? I might even be able to dig up some original L.C. M193 loads from way back when that I could send you...

Cfe 223

I've noticed that varget seems to get a little wild when it gets compressed. I wonder if that was the difference here between the shorts and longs?

I have always bought the 55gr FMJ BT W/C Hornady, I have been using Accurate 2015 powder? It's what I use... mostly because when I bought my supplies it was all I could find locally that would work :/

H322! I’ve loaded some test rounds already with this powder and the Hornady 55gr FMJBT. I just haven’t found the time to shoot the yet.

Johnny it was told to me when accuracy testing a barrel needs cleaning before moving on to the next type bullet cause each bullet lays it's own deposit inside the barrel. When crossing them up you can't be sure of repeatable or true performance. Just something to think about

Is the reload swiss rs 40 powder available in the u.s. ?? Could be an interesting alternative dont you think?

W748 25-26.5 grains. 25 & 26 worked best out a M4orgery with 55 grain Hornady bullets. 26.5 is touching close to or at max load.

Great video, makes me want to play around with seating depths for my plinking rounds. My current load is the Hornady 55 fmj with 25.0 grs of 8208xbr seated at 2.230 and I also run Midsouth shooter supplies 62gr BTHP(around 10 cents each on sale) with 24.0 grs of 8208xbr seated at 2.245. I think I'll load some up tonight.

Great video.

Very informative and interesting. I would like to see H335 powder used in the next video if possible. Thanks

Good work man. I run a 55gn xtreme FMJ with Varget but have yet to find a load I'm impressed with. I've gotten some good groups but terrible SDs. Also, trying to bust out a bulk run of rounds with a compressed load is annoying as hell.

@Oregun

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you regarding the Xtreme 55Gr FMJ and Varget, haven't found a good load. Maybe Johnny can discover a good powder as I have about 1500 of them left. ;-) If not, they still go pew when you pull the trigger.

Anyway to get the rifle set up posted in the video description. Or at least barrel and twist

Will you do a test with some Hornady 55 gr spire points. I have had good luck with them.

Thanks for sharing

Try some BLC-2 great powder for 5.56!👍

new to reloading what reloading manuals are best for 223 & 5.56 Thank You & God Bless

Everglades has been where I’ve been getting my bullets and I’ve been very happy...free shipping and fast delivery...just no complaints. A question though...why do you think the SD were so high?

@12pharro

6 жыл бұрын

PreppinShootinLivin for 89 bucks, how can you go wrong!? I'd like to give their 62s a rip

Does Hornady reference a different brass length, when they recommend that short OAL?

H4895!

What Viht powder would you say was the best for Vmax 55gr for .223? I have to move from IMR to Viht to comply with new European regulations - Im going to use 140 for the 243 & 308.

Have you ever done any testing on crimp vs no crimp. The long OAL shot better here but was the no crimp a factor?

RL 15 and ARComp Berrys 55's?

Hi Johnny, would you be interested in looking at the Berry's FMJ 223 Bullet in the future? They are the most affordable offerings in my area at this time. From what I see, they shoot very well. Greetings from Canada.

How much neck tension did you use for the lapua bullets ?

Missing your videos man!

Have you given a thought that the 1&8 twist is to fast to stabilise a 55 grain bullet. Varmint guns like a remington bolt 700 used a 1 in 12 twist. I have several 1 in 9 twist guns that if i go under 3000fps shoot great. But with factory ammo or faster reloads the group opens up big time.

Johnny show us some reloading man!

What type of bipod are you using? I notice your rifle seems to recoil straight back instead of hopping.

Drawing your squares around the groups is nice, but what is the plus symbol representing?

Possibility of human error? What would the size groups be if you threw out a flyer? That last Lapua group was interesting without the one that opened it up. I'm curious what the four shot group was without #5

It appears that you are shooting in cold weather. Going from a cold barrel to a hot barrel will change you group size. Years ago I bought a Multimeter to use around the house and found that the temp probe has been useful when I shoot multiple groups as you have. I rubber band the probe on to the barrel and when I exceed a temp range I stop shooting until the barrel cools down.

Where do you get your targets, look like they are made for testing bullets and powers.

Ok I got an unrelated question. I’ve reloaded a lot, just not .223. I have lake city brass, cci primers, Hornady 60 grain hollow points. If you have ever shot these what powder facet you the best group? I know every gun is different. But I’m old, disabled and can’t run to the range ten times a month. I’ll be shooting a ruger ranch with a Nikon 4x12. Just wondering if you had a place where I could start.

What # are the left most hornady bullets are they the #2267 bullets??? I see them for .10 cents a shot ???

Does the crimp v no crimp change group size with same oal on these loads? Do you have older video on this topic?

@15TNar

6 жыл бұрын

Good ? Crimp or seating depth made a big diff

I've been binge watching your videos - good stuff man. Appreciate all the time, effort, & money you put into getting these out to us. Quick question I haven't seen you answer yet (I'm a noob, sorry) - what software do you use to measure targets?

@CF-qz7ho

6 жыл бұрын

Not to speak for JRB, but you can buy "On Target" here: ontargetshooting.com/

Wooohooo! How about Accurate 2230? I worked up a M193 clone with the Hornady 55 gr that was fairly accurate. 26 gr got me 3100 FPS with no pressure signs.

How about some H335, from what I understand it originated as a military powder, so if you are testing 55grainers that sounds like a natural choice

I have a mk18. Short barrel 10.3 inches. Is there a better reload for shorter barrels?

XBR 8208

I don't see power pro varmint or 2000mr on here. I think they would give good velocity and accuracy.

cfe 223 please

Benchmark 26.3 coal 2.215 everglades 55 v2 lc brass cci 450 best group 16 inch yhm chrome molly pet load .4-.5 moa SD 9

I have a Lee Hand Reloading Press. I didn't have the money for a big boy press yet. Now I am reloading my .40 S&W and .300 BLKOut with it because of watching you vids. You do great work and put out great content. I have a lot of fun seeing how low of a charge I can go with different bullet weights. So my Question is how do you know how far you can push on the high side of powder charge with out blowing your face off? Will the gun start to run bad?

@jeffhuntley2921

6 жыл бұрын

louvkjr. I had these same questions when I started reloading, not to long ago. I got most of my education off KZread and local gun shops. You should do google and KZread searches of “high pressure signs”. Flattened primers are the easiest to spot but there are others to look for. There’s a great shooting community on KZread to draw from and some day hopefully add too. Have fun and stay safe:)

23 g of RL-10x or 23.8 of VV N-133 both have been great for me with the Hornady 55

If you go to Cabellas aiming to buy the Hornady 55G at $9.99 for a box of 100 & the shelf is empty don't give up. They also have 100 count bags of Winchester for $10.99 per 100 & they usually have those so it's not a wasted trip.

Alliant 10x, Accurate 2230, Ramshot Tac

Would you add the Sierra 55 gr to the Test